Manatee Monkey Mentors SHUT (Poptart or pet pic bribes considered) (Page 7)

Originally posted by StaceyK

Originally posted by sonyaforrest Ha ha - sorry about that. If you prefer I convert everything to miles let me know.

Hi Sonya great to have another Aussie - that makes 3 of us. Don't convert for them, it's good to make them realise they are the only country stuck in the dark ages every now and then (Saying that I sometimes do)

I'm not feeling the love here

They're just very new and shiny.  Gotta keep them that way, you know?

sadface

I feel like the worst dog mom and human daughter ever.

We took in a dog (at my mom's place in Jakarta) for a trial foster period. All was well until we were both close to the dog when a huge out-of-the-blue thunderclap hit. Bit my mom and when I instinctively/immediately reached out to help her he bit me too.

Mutti's bite is pretty bad--they had to tie a blood vessel off and she's in a lot of pain (being medicated for that too but it's still very uncomfortable). I'm okay. My holes are deeper and still oozing (quite a few hours later) but didn't hit any good vessels or nerves.

Still here at the ER. We've both had rabies and tetanus but were needing boosters soon anyway so we had that done. A very small bright spot was that the doc said, wow you have a lot of arm muscle, do you do sports?

Anyway, of course the dog has to go back. I can work with fear biters and do fear extinguishment, but frankly not unless someone is paying me a couple grand and it's a fairly long and involved process. In any case I absolutely can't have a biter around Mutti for any reason.

Sigh. I feel like shyte. Also just had minor dental surgery yesterday--hole in the gum to screw a bracket into my jawbone for a later implant. Very excited about getting a new tooth but still kinda feel like I got punched in the face.

I know I did my best.

Fachmie anyway. I just feel like a failure on all fronts. Yes, I understand that my feelings don't dictate the facts, I just feel horrible about what happened to Mutti, and I feel genuinely bad for the dog and my friend, too. He's going to be a hard one to re-home in a country where there's thunder all the time, lots of fireworks, motorcycles backfiring etc. We knew he was scared of loud noises, and I know it was a new environment / new people, so there was no way to predict this was going to happen, but still. I feel awful.

Aw thanks, Foxay.

I haven't called his owner yet ... ultra dread. 'Cause it's not just this bad news ... it's going to be the dawn of realization for him that he is in for a much tougher, honestly if possible at all, re-homing process. Taking him back to New York isn't an option--he'll be in quarantine for a few months, as in dog jail, everyone's unfamiliar, clanging doors, barking dogs, etc, and if he bites anyone there, it's bye-bye dog.

Fachmie. This just sucks all around. Need courage.

Oh No, this totally stinks!!  There really are no easy answers in these types of situations.  It's just hard.  Sorry you have and the dog and the dog's owner's have to go through this!  I am really sorry that you and Mutti were bitten.  How's she doing??

She's doing great. She's a trooper. Also, she doesn't remember being bitten so that helps, as do the pain meds. Her hand is still very sore, though, and will be for a while.

Completely unprepared for how affected by this I am. Astonished at how overwhelmed I feel. Not even sure how to describe the emotions. I don't even want Pop Tarts.

Welcome all the new Manatees!!! Looks like we have another person who will drive me crazy talking in kms!!!

So are your Sbux orders like a tall double caf americano machiatto skinny light on the whip?

Cause mine is like "Grande dark roast"

Originally posted by StaceyK

Originally posted by sonyaforrest Ha ha - sorry about that. If you prefer I convert everything to miles let me know.

Hi Sonya great to have another Aussie - that makes 3 of us. Don't convert for them, it's good to make them realise they are the only country stuck in the dark ages every now and then (Saying that I sometimes do)

I believe that "Myanmar (the country formerly known as Burma)" - note how that always goes together - is also on the foot/second/slug/gallon (aka, Imperial?) system.  See, we're not alone!  (although not exactly in good company)  

If we were meant to use the metric system, we'd have evolved to have 10 fingers and 10 toes, thank you very much!

Still think we should just cut over.  It works in medicine and science - yes, even in the US - so it should be OK in the kitchen and all those non-5k/10k/Oly races we also run...

AND WELCOME TO THE NEW MANATEES!  

Matt

sadface

I feel like the worst dog mom and human daughter ever.

...

Anyway, of course the dog has to go back. I can work with fear biters and do fear extinguishment, but frankly not unless someone is paying me a couple grand and it's a fairly long and involved process. In any case I absolutely can't have a biter around Mutti for any reason.

Sigh. I feel like shyte. Also just had minor dental surgery yesterday--hole in the gum to screw a bracket into my jawbone for a later implant. Very excited about getting a new tooth but still kinda feel like I got punched in the face.

I know I did my best.

Fachmie anyway. I just feel like a failure on all fronts. Yes, I understand that my feelings don't dictate the facts, I just feel horrible about what happened to Mutti, and I feel genuinely bad for the dog and my friend, too. He's going to be a hard one to re-home in a country where there's thunder all the time, lots of fireworks, motorcycles backfiring etc. We knew he was scared of loud noises, and I know it was a new environment / new people, so there was no way to predict this was going to happen, but still. I feel awful.

I was wondering about the viability of single track in darkness as I read this.  Then again, I managed to twist an ankle in complete daylight, so what is the difference, I guess? Will a RR be available? I am trying to gauge other peoples experiences with trail running.

*gratitude* Hands-Marie and {MELON PRESS}.

I can't say the conversation with his owner went well, but at least I did it. The owner was very polite and appropriately horrified at what happened, but like pretty much every other human being, he did not handle this first cut (always the deepest, as they say) into denial well. It must be this, it must be that, gotta do things just a little differently and it'll work, give him time ... no. Fear-based biting from an exaggerated startle response, however understandable the situation, is not going to change from a little bit of this and that, or any amount of patience. Not in humans, not in dogs.

Originally posted by StaceyK

Originally posted by sonyaforrest Ha ha - sorry about that. If you prefer I convert everything to miles let me know.

Hi Sonya great to have another Aussie - that makes 3 of us. Don't convert for them, it's good to make them realise they are the only country stuck in the dark ages every now and then (Saying that I sometimes do)

Fine!  Just use us for our less expensive shoes!

Wow, this is even more serious than I thought!  But seriously, almost 10 years later, I am still saddened by having to make some hard decisions about a dog I was associated with.  They were the right decisions (I keep telling myself), but they sucked then and they suck now.   You know that you always do the best for the people and animals in your life and this time will be no different, so maybe you can take some solace knowing that.

ETA: And Chris, are you falling down on the job?  Do you have Yanti's new folding bike?!

Sooooo... do any of you wash, or ever WANT to wash your shoes? Was out trail running this morning and got my new Mizunos dirty.  I don't like it when my bright colors get dull.

sadface

I feel like the worst dog mom and human daughter ever.

We took in a dog (at my mom's place in Jakarta) for a trial foster period. All was well until we were both close to the dog when a huge out-of-the-blue thunderclap hit. Bit my mom and when I instinctively/immediately reached out to help her he bit me too.

Mutti's bite is pretty bad--they had to tie a blood vessel off and she's in a lot of pain (being medicated for that too but it's still very uncomfortable). I'm okay. My holes are deeper and still oozing (quite a few hours later) but didn't hit any good vessels or nerves.

Still here at the ER. We've both had rabies and tetanus but were needing boosters soon anyway so we had that done. A very small bright spot was that the doc said, wow you have a lot of arm muscle, do you do sports?

Anyway, of course the dog has to go back. I can work with fear biters and do fear extinguishment, but frankly not unless someone is paying me a couple grand and it's a fairly long and involved process. In any case I absolutely can't have a biter around Mutti for any reason.

Sigh. I feel like shyte. Also just had minor dental surgery yesterday--hole in the gum to screw a bracket into my jawbone for a later implant. Very excited about getting a new tooth but still kinda feel like I got punched in the face.

I know I did my best.

Fachmie anyway. I just feel like a failure on all fronts. Yes, I understand that my feelings don't dictate the facts, I just feel horrible about what happened to Mutti, and I feel genuinely bad for the dog and my friend, too. He's going to be a hard one to re-home in a country where there's thunder all the time, lots of fireworks, motorcycles backfiring etc. We knew he was scared of loud noises, and I know it was a new environment / new people, so there was no way to predict this was going to happen, but still. I feel awful.