Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux (Page 84)
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2016-07-10 7:52 PM in reply to: JBacarella |
Veteran 1900 Southampton, Ontario | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by JBacarella I finally ran a race this year. Just a small local 5 k with just 112 runners. I was 22nd overall, my time was a little slow. But get this, I am in my first year of the 50 year old age and ended up in fourth place. There were 3 guys in my age group with a sub 20 minute 5k. I was shocked. I would have podiumed in any other age group. My 82 year old Dad had sage advice. He said "next time you should run faster." Thanks Dad. he sounds like a wise man. |
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2016-07-10 8:21 PM in reply to: StaceyK |
Pro 6520 Bellingham, WA | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by StaceyK Go racers!!! Wet and stormy here this weekend so the dogs decided this was the best way to spend the day I love seeing pictures of your dogs. They are very impressive. My son also loves dogs and is amazed by them when I show him |
2016-07-11 2:34 AM in reply to: popsracer |
Veteran 2441 Western Australia | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Hi Guys if you had to recommend a good "running book" for training and other good advice to a relative beginner what would you suggest? |
2016-07-11 8:19 AM in reply to: DaveL |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by DaveL okay not usually one to write product reviews but this one just saved my bacon. Loksak smartphone bag - basically think of it as a thicker double zip lock bag for your phone. I just got caught in a torrential downpour and because I had my phone in this bag it saved it from getting wet. They arent cheap as far as sandwich bags go but a lot cheaper than a new phone. Now that I have had a shower, updated strava and BT the sun is back out . Grrrr! Go Manatees! I'm sorry to hear that you were caught out in the storm. I'm glad that the Loksak kept your phone dry! |
2016-07-11 8:21 AM in reply to: StaceyK |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by StaceyK Go racers!!! Wet and stormy here this weekend so the dogs decided this was the best way to spend the day They look super comfy! Zoe is not that still unless we drug her! |
2016-07-11 8:26 AM in reply to: cdban66 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by cdban66 Anyone following the TdF this year? I like the looks of BMC(I love me an underdog), but Sky is gonna be tough to beat. Predictions? No predictions. Not a fan of the current yellow jersey. I feel so bad for Richie Porte and his inopportune flat It makes me think of On the Waterfront. "I coulda' been a contender." I mentioned in my blog that I broke down and spend the $30 for NBC Sports Gold. I have to tell you -- worth every penny. Commercial free tour watching, oh my! |
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2016-07-11 8:35 AM in reply to: amd723 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by cdban66 Anyone following the TdF this year? I like the looks of BMC(I love me an underdog), but Sky is gonna be tough to beat. Predictions? I predict whichever rider has the best motor hidden in his bike Ok, I may have only watched a few minutes of it , so I'm just going with Yates since he has the same last name as my BIL. He did well yesterday! Mountain top finish. Hail. Yikes! Now I need to Google when was the last time the white jersey was also the yellow jersey... Wikipedia says, "Since the young rider classification was introduced in 1975, it has been won by 35 different cyclists. On four occasions a cyclist has won the young rider classification and the general classification — Fignon in 1983, Ullrich in 1997, Contador in 2007 and Schleck in 2010." |
2016-07-11 8:35 AM in reply to: 0 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux |
2016-07-11 8:39 AM in reply to: IronOx |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by IronOx Had a good race today. I am happy with all three legs. Not a PR, but solid. Somebody needs to tell the RD that a hill to the finish (well, not really a hill, a ramp with a couple of switchbacks up to the Olympic plaza) is not nice! Weather was awesome after the downpour that happened yesterday as we racked our bikes! I am now looking forward to not training for a bit, or at least unstructured, only if I feel like it training. Hope everyone has had a good weekend! I think that many coaches and RDs have an evil streak. Great job! Nice to have a good race under your belt! |
2016-07-11 3:03 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
436 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux For those of you that ride on a trainer, do you use your "race/tri" bike on it? I plan on spending more time on my trainer given a variety of factors but I currently have an old road bike on it and I save my new, race/tri bike for outdoor riding. I'm wondering if I'm not going to see the same gains outdoors by not training on what I'll be racing on given the different position, etc. |
2016-07-11 3:19 PM in reply to: TXTriRook |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by TXTriRook For those of you that ride on a trainer, do you use your "race/tri" bike on it? I plan on spending more time on my trainer given a variety of factors but I currently have an old road bike on it and I save my new, race/tri bike for outdoor riding. I'm wondering if I'm not going to see the same gains outdoors by not training on what I'll be racing on given the different position, etc. I am actually doing the opposite. I have my roadie ready for easy access to outside rides and have my TT bike on the trainer. I think that as long as you are getting some time outside for muscle memory in aero, your cardio and legs will still see gains either way. |
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2016-07-11 3:24 PM in reply to: TXTriRook |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by TXTriRook For those of you that ride on a trainer, do you use your "race/tri" bike on it? I plan on spending more time on my trainer given a variety of factors but I currently have an old road bike on it and I save my new, race/tri bike for outdoor riding. I'm wondering if I'm not going to see the same gains outdoors by not training on what I'll be racing on given the different position, etc. I have my road bike on the trainer as I mainly ride my tri bike, so I don't have to keep taking it off and putting it on. I think riding is riding, so I wouldn't worry about which bike you use. |
2016-07-11 4:02 PM in reply to: amd723 |
Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Hey manatees, I've returned from my hot hot hot trip to Williamsburg! I didn't melt into the pavement and I got to meet Judi, QueenZipp herself! I also got to meet my new coach, aka Coach Josh, in person, how cool! My friend LT and I had a really fun time, and her half relay team got 2nd place and after some drama not perpetrated by me, I got 2nd AG (Athena) in the Olympic. It was hot, so hot. I felt like all I did Friday, Saturday and Sunday was drink and sweat, sweat and drink. I'll try to get to the RR this week. Laura and Judi, I have no idea how you tolerate the traffic around your area, unless you don't use any of the routes that have 95 in them. Man, what a total PITA the drive was down and back! LT and I vowed not to do any more races that involve traveling on those roads, LOL. Unless we drive at midnight, maybe that would be better. |
2016-07-11 4:14 PM in reply to: melbo55 |
Royal(PITA) 14270 West Chester, Ohio | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by melbo55 Why do you think I put up with my crazy job? I work from home and very rarely have to fight that traffic. Trust me, when I am stuck on 95 any length of time I start cursing like a sailor and using pretty nasty hand gestures.Hey manatees, I've returned from my hot hot hot trip to Williamsburg! I didn't melt into the pavement and I got to meet Judi, QueenZipp herself! I also got to meet my new coach, aka Coach Josh, in person, how cool! My friend LT and I had a really fun time, and her half relay team got 2nd place and after some drama not perpetrated by me, I got 2nd AG (Athena) in the Olympic. It was hot, so hot. I felt like all I did Friday, Saturday and Sunday was drink and sweat, sweat and drink. I'll try to get to the RR this week. Laura and Judi, I have no idea how you tolerate the traffic around your area, unless you don't use any of the routes that have 95 in them. Man, what a total PITA the drive was down and back! LT and I vowed not to do any more races that involve traveling on those roads, LOL. Unless we drive at midnight, maybe that would be better. Northern VA, near Laura is a parking lot 24/7. It seems like all the various roads feed into the route then voila here we have a road designed 30+ years ago that is ill equipped to handle the volume of traffic.....Though I lived in southern MD 30 years ago and that road was a parking lot even then!! It might take a little longer, but from Mt Joy area you could go around the western part of MD to route 81 then go across 64 east. We go out 81 when we visit John's family in Harrisburg / Dillsburgh area. |
2016-07-11 4:40 PM in reply to: melbo55 |
436 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Thanks all. Anyone on here thinking of doing this? http://www.akxtri.com/.I watched the movie Everest over the weekend and now I feel like doing something non-life threatening but very adventurous. |
2016-07-11 5:01 PM in reply to: TXTriRook |
Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by TXTriRook Thanks all. Anyone on here thinking of doing this? http://www.akxtri.com/.I watched the movie Everest over the weekend and now I feel like doing something non-life threatening but very adventurous. It looks exciting, gorgeous and VERY challenging! I'd be a no, but I'll gladly root for any manatees who dared to go for it! |
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2016-07-11 5:11 PM in reply to: TXTriRook |
Royal(PITA) 14270 West Chester, Ohio | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by TXTriRook Thanks all. Anyone on here thinking of doing this? http://www.akxtri.com/.I watched the movie Everest over the weekend and now I feel like doing something non-life threatening but very adventurous.
Oh my goodness that course is gorgeous....but man the water temps are CRAZY and the climbs on the bike crazier!! WOW!! I don't even think Yanti would risk hypothermia for this one! |
2016-07-11 5:25 PM in reply to: QueenZipp |
Veteran 2441 Western Australia | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by QueenZipp I think you have no chance of getting Yanti there her and Kingsley complain like mad when they have to race with the temperature below 95* (you should hear the b!tching )Originally posted by TXTriRook Thanks all. Anyone on here thinking of doing this? http://www.akxtri.com/.I watched the movie Everest over the weekend and now I feel like doing something non-life threatening but very adventurous. Â Oh my goodness that course is gorgeous....but man the water temps are CRAZY and the climbs on the bike crazier!! Â WOW!! Â I don't even think Yanti would risk hypothermia for this one! |
2016-07-11 9:47 PM in reply to: amd723 |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by TXTriRook For those of you that ride on a trainer, do you use your "race/tri" bike on it? I plan on spending more time on my trainer given a variety of factors but I currently have an old road bike on it and I save my new, race/tri bike for outdoor riding. I'm wondering if I'm not going to see the same gains outdoors by not training on what I'll be racing on given the different position, etc. I have my road bike on the trainer as I mainly ride my tri bike, so I don't have to keep taking it off and putting it on. I think riding is riding, so I wouldn't worry about which bike you use. That last part especially is largely true. Ride a bike and develop your power. That's the most important thing. You'll still need to ride your tri bike in tri position at times to maintain or develop being used to it, but major power gains are still with just riding. Trainer work tends to be pretty much all about developing power as you're locked in place (well, most are). Be sure to get some outside rides in your race position, but also don't feel like all rides have to be that way. See how things are going. And try remember what race day will bring. Long course will be more just spending a lot of time. Short course is going to be harder effort. Some can get by not doing any in tri position, but for many it will help to at least have some. I kept more to some as I develop faster riding more up and then just get used to aero some again. All aero and everything flattened out before long. |
2016-07-11 9:49 PM in reply to: 0 |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by jmkizer Was going to say, might not like some of these guys either.Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by cdban66 Anyone following the TdF this year? I like the looks of BMC(I love me an underdog), but Sky is gonna be tough to beat. Predictions? I predict whichever rider has the best motor hidden in his bike Ok, I may have only watched a few minutes of it , so I'm just going with Yates since he has the same last name as my BIL. He did well yesterday! Mountain top finish. Hail. Yikes! Now I need to Google when was the last time the white jersey was also the yellow jersey... Wikipedia says, "Since the young rider classification was introduced in 1975, it has been won by 35 different cyclists. On four occasions a cyclist has won the young rider classification and the general classification — Fignon in 1983, Ullrich in 1997, Contador in 2007 and Schleck in 2010." Been following highlights, but haven't had a chance to watch much. Could get really interesting Wednesday and after. I keep looking at the one out of Berne too. Cat 1 & HC in the last 30k. OMG! Edited by brigby1 2016-07-11 9:52 PM |
2016-07-12 6:34 AM in reply to: TXTriRook |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by TXTriRook For those of you that ride on a trainer, do you use your "race/tri" bike on it? I plan on spending more time on my trainer given a variety of factors but I currently have an old road bike on it and I save my new, race/tri bike for outdoor riding. I'm wondering if I'm not going to see the same gains outdoors by not training on what I'll be racing on given the different position, etc. I put the roadie on the trainer. I'm sure that Ben and Co. will have some comments about bike position and trainers but for me, personally, I shift around a lot more outside (unconsciously) making it easier to hold position for a longer time. I can ride a lot longer outside and stay comfortable. I'm not sure that me holding a certain position on the trainer would translate into me holding that same position well out side. That being said, does the roadie fit you well? |
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2016-07-12 6:43 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by jmkizer Was going to say, might not like some of these guys either.Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by cdban66 Anyone following the TdF this year? I like the looks of BMC(I love me an underdog), but Sky is gonna be tough to beat. Predictions? I predict whichever rider has the best motor hidden in his bike Ok, I may have only watched a few minutes of it , so I'm just going with Yates since he has the same last name as my BIL. He did well yesterday! Mountain top finish. Hail. Yikes! Now I need to Google when was the last time the white jersey was also the yellow jersey... Wikipedia says, "Since the young rider classification was introduced in 1975, it has been won by 35 different cyclists. On four occasions a cyclist has won the young rider classification and the general classification — Fignon in 1983, Ullrich in 1997, Contador in 2007 and Schleck in 2010." Been following highlights, but haven't had a chance to watch much. Could get really interesting Wednesday and after. I keep looking at the one out of Berne too. Cat 1 & HC in the last 30k. OMG! Yes, I can see some at work streaming in my future |
2016-07-12 6:55 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux |
2016-07-12 7:52 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by TXTriRook For those of you that ride on a trainer, do you use your "race/tri" bike on it? I plan on spending more time on my trainer given a variety of factors but I currently have an old road bike on it and I save my new, race/tri bike for outdoor riding. I'm wondering if I'm not going to see the same gains outdoors by not training on what I'll be racing on given the different position, etc. I put the roadie on the trainer. I'm sure that Ben and Co. will have some comments about bike position and trainers but for me, personally, I shift around a lot more outside (unconsciously) making it easier to hold position for a longer time. I can ride a lot longer outside and stay comfortable. I'm not sure that me holding a certain position on the trainer would translate into me holding that same position well out side. That being said, does the roadie fit you well? The general trend of holding position is that your arse may get sore more easily on the trainer, but your balance/support muscles don't get as much use there. The variations of riding outside can seem to help people with the saddle soreness, but lack of use in the support areas can make holding the position a little more difficult. Hence Jordan Rapp's recommendation of at least trying to make sure you can do long rides outside as this is where the support will get the most work. I've been using the pricier KK Rock 'n Roll trainer and twice now have not really needed adaptations of support when going outside after several months of only indoor training. Used to have some with the fixed KK Road Machine. There can still be a little getting used to the bike's responsiveness again, but haven't really had conditioning issues. |
2016-07-12 7:55 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by TXTriRook For those of you that ride on a trainer, do you use your "race/tri" bike on it? I plan on spending more time on my trainer given a variety of factors but I currently have an old road bike on it and I save my new, race/tri bike for outdoor riding. I'm wondering if I'm not going to see the same gains outdoors by not training on what I'll be racing on given the different position, etc. I put the roadie on the trainer. I'm sure that Ben and Co. will have some comments about bike position and trainers but for me, personally, I shift around a lot more outside (unconsciously) making it easier to hold position for a longer time. I can ride a lot longer outside and stay comfortable. I'm not sure that me holding a certain position on the trainer would translate into me holding that same position well out side. That being said, does the roadie fit you well? The general trend of holding position is that your arse may get sore more easily on the trainer, but your balance/support muscles don't get as much use there. The variations of riding outside can seem to help people with the saddle soreness, but lack of use in the support areas can make holding the position a little more difficult. Hence Jordan Rapp's recommendation of at least trying to make sure you can do long rides outside as this is where the support will get the most work. I've been using the pricier KK Rock 'n Roll trainer and twice now have not really needed adaptations of support when going outside after several months of only indoor training. Used to have some with the fixed KK Road Machine. There can still be a little getting used to the bike's responsiveness again, but haven't really had conditioning issues. Good to know! |
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