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 2016-07-14 8:31 AM in reply to: fortissimo |
Master  6834      Englewood, Florida |  Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deuxOriginally posted by fortissimo Tri stuff doesn't run small - what are you guys talking about?!?! hahahaha I wear a medium in most shirts so I ordered the medium size for the Boulder Peak. It is so small that I'll never be able to wear it, which is okay since the race was cancelled. I do love my 2XU Long Distance Tri shorts. Maybe because the medium in these is a bit to big, unlike any other tri shorts I've ever tried. I have tried other styles of the 2XU and they just didn't work for me. Unfortunately they don't make this style anymore. I hate buying regular clothes and buying tri clothes is a nightmare! All I can add is that I've shopped with TW for clothing more than once. Women's clothing sizing is a mystery to me, like astrophysics or the Dewey Decimal System. S, M, L mean nothing. Unisex sizing is completely useless My favorite term is "Feel good sizes". Me, standing by a rack, trying to be helpful: "What size are we looking for?" TW: "I'm not sure, I think I'm an 8 but if it runs small I need a 10 or maybe a 12. Unless they use feel good sizing, so I might be a 6. Or a 4." Me: "So, you need all the sizes" TW: "Yes, please" |
| 2016-07-14 8:33 AM in reply to: fortissimo |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by fortissimo Originally posted by Atlantia I need a pep talk, or maybe some sage words of wisdom. I know the Manatee Chant is DOOOOOO EEEEEET, but I'm hesitant. See, there is a small part of me questioning if I'm actually ready for an Oly distance. I haven't signed up for the race yet.... Its the run I'm worried about. The swim, I'm sure I can do it. The bike...it won't be fast, but I know I can do that, too. But the run...this Zone 2 training has me going so slow, and I wonder if I'll ever get anywhere near 6 miles of long runs before race day. Right now I think I'm a titch over 4 miles. 14 minute miles may be what my heart muscle needs right now, but it certainly isn't what my heart & soul want! I don't know. I suppose I could always walk it in if it came down to it? I've been looking forward to doing an Oly all summer....maybe this is just doubt. Thoughts? And on tri clothes: how come the same size doesn't even fit the same across all the colorways? L in the nice "slimming" black shorts from Coeur, and I loved them so much I wanted to get a whole kit. Tried some on at the local tri shop, and found I had to size up top AND bottom to make sure things weren't sheer. What's that about? You are saying the exact words before signing up for a race that I was saying during my race. After I fell coming out of transition and couldn't run, all I could think was that maybe I shouldn't be doing this distance. First, before my Avengers HM in November, my coach had me running way under what I thought I needed to be training at. He did have faster runs in there, but all of my long runs were easy to mod. I thought there was no way in heck that I would be able to finish the race let alone get below a 2:10. Not only did I finish, but I was at a 2:08 and could have gone faster if the crowds wouldn't have been there. You can do the Oly. If you have to do a run/walk then you do a run/walk. Trust the training. It works. My longest bike ever before IM was 72 miles I think. I did the 112. The longest run was 18, but broken up into a 12 mile run in the morning and a 6 mile in the evening. You can do it. Trust it. Now back to clothes - Have you ever noticed that if you buy the exact same pair of pants in a few different colors, they never fit the same? Ever. Why? Why do pants in short length or even petite cost more than regular or long? Same with dresses and skirts. See the bolded above and smile while you race!!! |
| 2016-07-14 8:35 AM in reply to: DaveL |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by DaveL Oh oh I can play too, now that I can convert Celsius to Fahrenheit. 35c is 95f, When I got back from my run it looked like I went swimming instead of running and I was even taking advantage of the cooler shaded trails. Sticky humid too -> Stumid. Did the trails help? Sometimes it seems the air gets stuck in there becoming a heat tube. |
| 2016-07-14 8:46 AM in reply to: fortissimo |
Member 2098 Simsbury, Connecticut | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by fortissimo Originally posted by Atlantia I need a pep talk, or maybe some sage words of wisdom. I know the Manatee Chant is DOOOOOO EEEEEET, but I'm hesitant. See, there is a small part of me questioning if I'm actually ready for an Oly distance. I haven't signed up for the race yet.... Its the run I'm worried about. The swim, I'm sure I can do it. The bike...it won't be fast, but I know I can do that, too. But the run...this Zone 2 training has me going so slow, and I wonder if I'll ever get anywhere near 6 miles of long runs before race day. Right now I think I'm a titch over 4 miles. 14 minute miles may be what my heart muscle needs right now, but it certainly isn't what my heart & soul want! I don't know. I suppose I could always walk it in if it came down to it? I've been looking forward to doing an Oly all summer....maybe this is just doubt. Thoughts? And on tri clothes: how come the same size doesn't even fit the same across all the colorways? L in the nice "slimming" black shorts from Coeur, and I loved them so much I wanted to get a whole kit. Tried some on at the local tri shop, and found I had to size up top AND bottom to make sure things weren't sheer. What's that about? You are saying the exact words before signing up for a race that I was saying during my race. After I fell coming out of transition and couldn't run, all I could think was that maybe I shouldn't be doing this distance. First, before my Avengers HM in November, my coach had me running way under what I thought I needed to be training at. He did have faster runs in there, but all of my long runs were easy to mod. I thought there was no way in heck that I would be able to finish the race let alone get below a 2:10. Not only did I finish, but I was at a 2:08 and could have gone faster if the crowds wouldn't have been there. You can do the Oly. If you have to do a run/walk then you do a run/walk. Trust the training. It works. My longest bike ever before IM was 72 miles I think. I did the 112. The longest run was 18, but broken up into a 12 mile run in the morning and a 6 mile in the evening. You can do it. Trust it. Now back to clothes - Have you ever noticed that if you buy the exact same pair of pants in a few different colors, they never fit the same? Ever. Why? Why do pants in short length or even petite cost more than regular or long? Same with dresses and skirts. +1 to the "YOU CAN DO IT" My longest run before IM was 14 miles. Yeah, it wasn't pretty but I went out with a plan (4:1 run/walk) and I did it. We usually surprise ourselves on race day and accomplish more than we thought possible. DO IT!  |
| 2016-07-14 8:54 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
Veteran 1900 Southampton, Ontario | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by DaveL Oh oh I can play too, now that I can convert Celsius to Fahrenheit. 35c is 95f, When I got back from my run it looked like I went swimming instead of running and I was even taking advantage of the cooler shaded trails. Sticky humid too -> Stumid. Did the trails help? Sometimes it seems the air gets stuck in there becoming a heat tube. I think it helps, the sun doesnt reach down to the ground so it doesnt get super heated the way the pavement does. Its also a lot more interesting, I hate running on the road. |
| 2016-07-14 9:19 AM in reply to: mtnbikerchk |
| 812 Katy, Texas | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by fortissimo Originally posted by Atlantia I need a pep talk, or maybe some sage words of wisdom. I know the Manatee Chant is DOOOOOO EEEEEET, but I'm hesitant. See, there is a small part of me questioning if I'm actually ready for an Oly distance. I haven't signed up for the race yet.... Its the run I'm worried about. The swim, I'm sure I can do it. The bike...it won't be fast, but I know I can do that, too. But the run...this Zone 2 training has me going so slow, and I wonder if I'll ever get anywhere near 6 miles of long runs before race day. Right now I think I'm a titch over 4 miles. 14 minute miles may be what my heart muscle needs right now, but it certainly isn't what my heart & soul want! I don't know. I suppose I could always walk it in if it came down to it? I've been looking forward to doing an Oly all summer....maybe this is just doubt. Thoughts? And on tri clothes: how come the same size doesn't even fit the same across all the colorways? L in the nice "slimming" black shorts from Coeur, and I loved them so much I wanted to get a whole kit. Tried some on at the local tri shop, and found I had to size up top AND bottom to make sure things weren't sheer. What's that about? You are saying the exact words before signing up for a race that I was saying during my race. After I fell coming out of transition and couldn't run, all I could think was that maybe I shouldn't be doing this distance. First, before my Avengers HM in November, my coach had me running way under what I thought I needed to be training at. He did have faster runs in there, but all of my long runs were easy to mod. I thought there was no way in heck that I would be able to finish the race let alone get below a 2:10. Not only did I finish, but I was at a 2:08 and could have gone faster if the crowds wouldn't have been there. You can do the Oly. If you have to do a run/walk then you do a run/walk. Trust the training. It works. My longest bike ever before IM was 72 miles I think. I did the 112. The longest run was 18, but broken up into a 12 mile run in the morning and a 6 mile in the evening. You can do it. Trust it. Now back to clothes - Have you ever noticed that if you buy the exact same pair of pants in a few different colors, they never fit the same? Ever. Why? Why do pants in short length or even petite cost more than regular or long? Same with dresses and skirts. +1 to the "YOU CAN DO IT" My longest run before IM was 14 miles. Yeah, it wasn't pretty but I went out with a plan (4:1 run/walk) and I did it. We usually surprise ourselves on race day and accomplish more than we thought possible. DO IT! Do it! Just have a conservative pacing plan. Nothing wrong with a little walking on the run if needed. |
| 2016-07-14 9:31 AM in reply to: fortissimo |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by fortissimo Originally posted by Atlantia I need a pep talk, or maybe some sage words of wisdom. I know the Manatee Chant is DOOOOOO EEEEEET, but I'm hesitant. See, there is a small part of me questioning if I'm actually ready for an Oly distance. I haven't signed up for the race yet.... Its the run I'm worried about. The swim, I'm sure I can do it. The bike...it won't be fast, but I know I can do that, too. But the run...this Zone 2 training has me going so slow, and I wonder if I'll ever get anywhere near 6 miles of long runs before race day. Right now I think I'm a titch over 4 miles. 14 minute miles may be what my heart muscle needs right now, but it certainly isn't what my heart & soul want! I don't know. I suppose I could always walk it in if it came down to it? I've been looking forward to doing an Oly all summer....maybe this is just doubt. Thoughts? And on tri clothes: how come the same size doesn't even fit the same across all the colorways? L in the nice "slimming" black shorts from Coeur, and I loved them so much I wanted to get a whole kit. Tried some on at the local tri shop, and found I had to size up top AND bottom to make sure things weren't sheer. What's that about? You are saying the exact words before signing up for a race that I was saying during my race. After I fell coming out of transition and couldn't run, all I could think was that maybe I shouldn't be doing this distance. First, before my Avengers HM in November, my coach had me running way under what I thought I needed to be training at. He did have faster runs in there, but all of my long runs were easy to mod. I thought there was no way in heck that I would be able to finish the race let alone get below a 2:10. Not only did I finish, but I was at a 2:08 and could have gone faster if the crowds wouldn't have been there. You can do the Oly. If you have to do a run/walk then you do a run/walk. Trust the training. It works. My longest bike ever before IM was 72 miles I think. I did the 112. The longest run was 18, but broken up into a 12 mile run in the morning and a 6 mile in the evening. You can do it. Trust it. Now back to clothes - Have you ever noticed that if you buy the exact same pair of pants in a few different colors, they never fit the same? Ever. Why? Why do pants in short length or even petite cost more than regular or long? Same with dresses and skirts. Agreed, you can do the distance no problem. So, if you've been looking forward to doing an OLY all summer, DOOOO EEEET!! I haven't noticed paying more for petites than non-petite, but I pretty much live in Ann Taylor clothes and they don't have a price difference. What I do hate is paying more to have my clothes dry cleaned then men pay for theirs!! What's up with that?? |
| 2016-07-14 9:33 AM in reply to: Atlantia |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by Atlantia Originally posted by QueenZipp I cannot even begin to say how much I love this pic!! favorite race pic yes, great pic! |
| 2016-07-14 9:34 AM in reply to: cdban66 |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by fortissimo Tri stuff doesn't run small - what are you guys talking about?!?! hahahaha I wear a medium in most shirts so I ordered the medium size for the Boulder Peak. It is so small that I'll never be able to wear it, which is okay since the race was cancelled. I do love my 2XU Long Distance Tri shorts. Maybe because the medium in these is a bit to big, unlike any other tri shorts I've ever tried. I have tried other styles of the 2XU and they just didn't work for me. Unfortunately they don't make this style anymore. I hate buying regular clothes and buying tri clothes is a nightmare! All I can add is that I've shopped with TW for clothing more than once. Women's clothing sizing is a mystery to me, like astrophysics or the Dewey Decimal System. S, M, L mean nothing. Unisex sizing is completely useless My favorite term is "Feel good sizes". Me, standing by a rack, trying to be helpful: "What size are we looking for?" TW: "I'm not sure, I think I'm an 8 but if it runs small I need a 10 or maybe a 12. Unless they use feel good sizing, so I might be a 6. Or a 4." Me: "So, you need all the sizes" TW: "Yes, please" Vanity sizing is the best! We need that in tri clothing instead of the feel-like-a-big-fat-pig sizing that tri clothing companies seem to have adopted!! |
| 2016-07-14 9:41 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by DaveL Oh oh I can play too, now that I can convert Celsius to Fahrenheit. 35c is 95f, When I got back from my run it looked like I went swimming instead of running and I was even taking advantage of the cooler shaded trails. Sticky humid too -> Stumid. Did the trails help? Sometimes it seems the air gets stuck in there becoming a heat tube. I know! Shade versus air movement :-/ |
| 2016-07-14 9:46 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Judi - Great pic! Laura - You've go this! Honestly! I remember feeling super anxious before my first ever 100 mile ride. I was anxious almost to the point of tears. Maija finally said to me that if I could to 75 or preferrably 80% of the distance in my training, I would be GOLDEN come the day of the big ride. DOOO EEET!!! |
| 2016-07-14 9:50 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Veteran 1900 Southampton, Ontario | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by DaveL Oh oh I can play too, now that I can convert Celsius to Fahrenheit. 35c is 95f, When I got back from my run it looked like I went swimming instead of running and I was even taking advantage of the cooler shaded trails. Sticky humid too -> Stumid. Did the trails help? Sometimes it seems the air gets stuck in there becoming a heat tube. I know! Shade versus air movement :-/ Mountain biking is the answer - it always is. |
| 2016-07-14 10:03 AM in reply to: cdban66 |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by Atlantia Originally posted by QueenZipp I cannot even begin to say how much I love this pic!! favorite race pic Yeah, where is the dang "Like" button! The smile is contagious |
| 2016-07-14 10:08 AM in reply to: rrrunner |
| 812 Katy, Texas | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux |
| 2016-07-14 10:08 AM in reply to: amd723 |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by fortissimo Tri stuff doesn't run small - what are you guys talking about?!?! hahahaha I wear a medium in most shirts so I ordered the medium size for the Boulder Peak. It is so small that I'll never be able to wear it, which is okay since the race was cancelled. I do love my 2XU Long Distance Tri shorts. Maybe because the medium in these is a bit to big, unlike any other tri shorts I've ever tried. I have tried other styles of the 2XU and they just didn't work for me. Unfortunately they don't make this style anymore. I hate buying regular clothes and buying tri clothes is a nightmare! All I can add is that I've shopped with TW for clothing more than once. Women's clothing sizing is a mystery to me, like astrophysics or the Dewey Decimal System. S, M, L mean nothing. Unisex sizing is completely useless My favorite term is "Feel good sizes". Me, standing by a rack, trying to be helpful: "What size are we looking for?" TW: "I'm not sure, I think I'm an 8 but if it runs small I need a 10 or maybe a 12. Unless they use feel good sizing, so I might be a 6. Or a 4." Me: "So, you need all the sizes" TW: "Yes, please" Vanity sizing is the best! We need that in tri clothing instead of the feel-like-a-big-fat-pig sizing that tri clothing companies seem to have adopted!! Yes times a godzillian!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 2016-07-14 10:08 AM in reply to: cdban66 |
Master 8247 Eugene, Oregon Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by fortissimo Tri stuff doesn't run small - what are you guys talking about?!?! hahahaha I wear a medium in most shirts so I ordered the medium size for the Boulder Peak. It is so small that I'll never be able to wear it, which is okay since the race was cancelled. I do love my 2XU Long Distance Tri shorts. Maybe because the medium in these is a bit to big, unlike any other tri shorts I've ever tried. I have tried other styles of the 2XU and they just didn't work for me. Unfortunately they don't make this style anymore. I hate buying regular clothes and buying tri clothes is a nightmare! All I can add is that I've shopped with TW for clothing more than once. Women's clothing sizing is a mystery to me, like astrophysics or the Dewey Decimal System. S, M, L mean nothing. Unisex sizing is completely useless My favorite term is "Feel good sizes". Me, standing by a rack, trying to be helpful: "What size are we looking for?" TW: "I'm not sure, I think I'm an 8 but if it runs small I need a 10 or maybe a 12. Unless they use feel good sizing, so I might be a 6. Or a 4." Me: "So, you need all the sizes" TW: "Yes, please" So true. I have definitive proof that women's clothes have been "downsized" over the past three decades. I was cleaning out closets Tuesday and came across a suit that I clearly remember getting for one of my first jobs (in 1991), which involved teaching English to bankers in Taiwan. The classes were held at the bank, which required everyone (including me) to wear suits in grey, black, or white. It is a US size 8--Mom sent it for me from the US when I couldn't find anything in Taipei that both fit and met the dress code--from a well-known brand. I recall wearing the suit or at least one part of it for a job interview or two in the intervening 25 years. Tried it on to see if it still fit and it did--perfectly. Today, I almost always wear a size 2 in street clothes (including suits of that brand), occasionally a size 4 if a brand runs "small". Neither my weight or my dimensions are substantially different than in 1991. Go figure. Then there's Vietnam. I am usually XXL, if I can find anything that's long enough. What's really perplexing is that in my younger days I almost always wore size 10 or 10 1/2 in women's shoes, both running and street shoes. Today it is mostly 9 or 9 1/2, especially for street shoes. There is NO WAY that the feet of someone who's been a distance runner for 37 years could have shrunk. So "feel good sizes" extend to making women think their feet are smaller! Not on the subject of tri, but I was trying on some dresses (size 2 and 4) at an REI sale a few weeks ago and passed off the size 2 to a quite petite woman who was waiting for it. It was too big for her (it just didn't flatter me--size was okay), and she commented, "I guess I am a zero." Then she stopped and said, "What the h....? How can a person be a ZERO? They would never have a "size zero" in MEN'S clothes." Interesting thought. |
| 2016-07-14 10:10 AM in reply to: Jet Black |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by Jet Black Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Do it! Just have a conservative pacing plan. Nothing wrong with a little walking on the run if needed. Originally posted by fortissimo +1 to the "YOU CAN DO IT" My longest run before IM was 14 miles. Yeah, it wasn't pretty but I went out with a plan (4:1 run/walk) and I did it. We usually surprise ourselves on race day and accomplish more than we thought possible. DO IT! Originally posted by Atlantia I need a pep talk, or maybe some sage words of wisdom. I know the Manatee Chant is DOOOOOO EEEEEET, but I'm hesitant. See, there is a small part of me questioning if I'm actually ready for an Oly distance. I haven't signed up for the race yet.... Its the run I'm worried about. The swim, I'm sure I can do it. The bike...it won't be fast, but I know I can do that, too. But the run...this Zone 2 training has me going so slow, and I wonder if I'll ever get anywhere near 6 miles of long runs before race day. Right now I think I'm a titch over 4 miles. 14 minute miles may be what my heart muscle needs right now, but it certainly isn't what my heart & soul want! I don't know. I suppose I could always walk it in if it came down to it? I've been looking forward to doing an Oly all summer....maybe this is just doubt. Thoughts? And on tri clothes: how come the same size doesn't even fit the same across all the colorways? L in the nice "slimming" black shorts from Coeur, and I loved them so much I wanted to get a whole kit. Tried some on at the local tri shop, and found I had to size up top AND bottom to make sure things weren't sheer. What's that about? You are saying the exact words before signing up for a race that I was saying during my race. After I fell coming out of transition and couldn't run, all I could think was that maybe I shouldn't be doing this distance. First, before my Avengers HM in November, my coach had me running way under what I thought I needed to be training at. He did have faster runs in there, but all of my long runs were easy to mod. I thought there was no way in heck that I would be able to finish the race let alone get below a 2:10. Not only did I finish, but I was at a 2:08 and could have gone faster if the crowds wouldn't have been there. You can do the Oly. If you have to do a run/walk then you do a run/walk. Trust the training. It works. My longest bike ever before IM was 72 miles I think. I did the 112. The longest run was 18, but broken up into a 12 mile run in the morning and a 6 mile in the evening. You can do it. Trust it. Now back to clothes - Have you ever noticed that if you buy the exact same pair of pants in a few different colors, they never fit the same? Ever. Why? Why do pants in short length or even petite cost more than regular or long? Same with dresses and skirts. Another vote for DOOOOO EEEEEET!!!!!!!!!!!! You've got the base. What's another couple miles |
| 2016-07-14 10:11 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux This popped up on my computer screen this morning. I thought it might cool everyone down a bit...
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| 2016-07-14 10:13 AM in reply to: QueenZipp |
| Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux |
| 2016-07-14 10:16 AM in reply to: Jet Black |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by Jet Black Who watched the tour this morning? Holy crap never seen anything like that! Crazy!  I'm on a blackout right now. Plan to watch tonight. NO SPOILERS! |
| 2016-07-14 10:17 AM in reply to: rrrunner |
| Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by rrrunner This popped up on my computer screen this morning. I thought it might cool everyone down a bit...
AAAAAAAHHHHHH! Thanks for the cool down! |
| 2016-07-14 10:19 AM in reply to: melbo55 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by melbo55 Originally posted by QueenZipp favorite race pic Look at that big smile, love it! I know, nothing says SELL THIS BIKE like that smile. No, wait.... Huh. |
| 2016-07-14 10:20 AM in reply to: cdban66 |
| Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Speaking of sizing woes, my new coach's organization is putting together an order for gear. Does anyone have any experience with Wattie Ink sizing, men's or women's? I'm pretty sure I'm already in the market for a men's top, the women's seems ridiculously short. Not sure about shorts yet. |
| 2016-07-14 10:26 AM in reply to: melbo55 |
| 812 Katy, Texas | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by melbo55 Speaking of sizing woes, my new coach's organization is putting together an order for gear. Does anyone have any experience with Wattie Ink sizing, men's or women's? I'm pretty sure I'm already in the market for a men's top, the women's seems ridiculously short. Not sure about shorts yet. See if they can get some fit kit before the order so you can figure out what size you need. They should be able to do that (they always have for my club orders). Heck, Kiwami is sending me a couple sizes to try before ordering on just a single suit. That's just good customer service. |
| 2016-07-14 10:46 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by Jet Black Who watched the tour this morning? Holy crap never seen anything like that! Crazy! I'm on a blackout right now. Plan to watch tonight. NO SPOILERS! NO SPOILATION!!!! I caught enough to make me want to see the whole thing. |
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