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2008-07-29 8:06 AM in reply to: #1565573 |
Champion 9600 Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: IMFL vs IMAZ vs IMLP It is much less likely to be windy in Nov. Temps will be more variable. This past Nov we had some very chilly days with temps in the 60's. It also unlikely to be 90+ in Nov. |
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2008-07-29 9:55 AM in reply to: #1565573 |
Not a Coach 11473 Media, PA | Subject: RE: IMFL vs IMAZ vs IMLP This doesn't answer your question in any way, but: Why do an IM next year? Your coach's advice sounds good. But 'tacking' an IM onto the end of a long season seems questionable. What about just taking all of '09 to work on 'fast' (you'll still be building endurance) and come back to IM in '10? That would be the direction I would head. Then you could opt to do one of the late-season independents if you feel like you 'need' to do an IM for whatever reason. Just a thought... |
2008-07-29 10:22 AM in reply to: #1566874 |
Champion 19812 MA | Subject: RE: IMFL vs IMAZ vs IMLP JohnnyKay - 2008-07-29 10:55 AM This doesn't answer your question in any way, but: Why do an IM next year? Your coach's advice sounds good. But 'tacking' an IM onto the end of a long season seems questionable. What about just taking all of '09 to work on 'fast' (you'll still be building endurance) and come back to IM in '10? That would be the direction I would head. Then you could opt to do one of the late-season independents if you feel like you 'need' to do an IM for whatever reason. Just a thought... Best advice and really what my coach suggests for me to reach my goals...so I can focus on getting faster by doing shorter work and races; stretching the year isn't ideal you are right. I twas our compromise was to do late season IM as I could do both. Why do an IM? Good question...lots of answers from different angles, right now I want to. I need to let go of my IMLP voucher and give myself time to come up with firm plan over next few months. It may turn out I love cyclecross racing and want to do that next fall which means no IM. I'm open but need to make a final decision about Lake Placid. |
2008-07-29 10:33 AM in reply to: #1565573 |
Expert 1195 Shelby Twp | Subject: RE: IMFL vs IMAZ vs IMLP I personally think that if set up right, you could do both, get faster and do a IM. Depends on what your body can handle though. And you and your coach know that best. I would probably go with AZ, since both are flat, at least there you get loops so you can see your family more, etc. LP was a nice course though, and obviously the weather, while more volatile, makes it interesting Good luck with your decision Kathy! |
2008-07-29 10:41 AM in reply to: #1566985 |
Not a Coach 11473 Media, PA | Subject: RE: IMFL vs IMAZ vs IMLP KathyG - 2008-07-29 11:22 AM It may turn out I love cyclecross racing and want to do that next fall which means no IM. Another reason why keeping the independants as an option versus an mDot might make sense for you. Of course, you'd have to be comfortable that the different 'vibe' wouldn't detract from your experience (otherwise, it wouldn't be much of an 'option' for you). FWIW, my own plan is to keep my options open next year and have either Plymouth Rock or ChesapeakeMan as my possible IM. I can decide in late Spring or early Summer next year instead of committing sometime this year. And save a bunch of $$$ too. |
2008-07-29 1:12 PM in reply to: #1565573 |
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2008-07-29 1:28 PM in reply to: #1565573 |
Extreme Veteran 407 Greenwood, SC | Subject: RE: IMFL vs IMAZ vs IMLP Don't let the ocean swim scare you away from FL. Granted, there was little wind last year, so there were no big waves. But, I am not a strong swimmer and loved swimming in the gulf. The bike is boring, but it is flat. Panama City is not a small friendly-type community, but that didn't seem to matter at all to me. Everyone there was nice enough to us. |
2008-07-29 1:47 PM in reply to: #1567492 |
Not a Coach 11473 Media, PA | Subject: RE: IMFL vs IMAZ vs IMLP PennState - 2008-07-29 2:12 PM John, you are absolutely right in your approach. I am interested in doing an independent IM some day, but LP is pretty perfect for me, and it's quite beautiful. LOgistically though, the independants make much more sense Yeah, don't get me wrong. LP is a GREAT race venue and I'll probably go back there one day. It's just too much for me to ask my family to make a vacation up there every year while I go race. It's actually possible that if/when I do decide to do it, we'll take a family vacation there the year before (for registration) and then I'll head up on my own to race. And going 'fast' is at least as fun as going 'long', too, so I don't have a problem not doing an IM in any given year. |
2008-07-29 10:48 PM in reply to: #1566581 |
Champion 9430 No excuses! | Subject: RE: IMFL vs IMAZ vs IMLP bryancd - 2008-07-29 9:06 AM It is much less likely to be windy in Nov. Temps will be more variable. This past Nov we had some very chilly days with temps in the 60's. It also unlikely to be 90+ in Nov. I would take your "chilly" days all winter long here in Michigan. Crap it hits 50 and you see more shorts, tank tops, and pale skin than you'd ever care to witness. |
2008-07-30 4:21 PM in reply to: #1565573 |
Member 24 , | Subject: RE: IMFL vs IMAZ vs IMLP So non M dot races are Ironman distances but not sponsered by Ironman? IMAZ is a M Dot race correct? |
2008-07-30 4:34 PM in reply to: #1571159 |
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2008-07-30 4:39 PM in reply to: #1565573 |
Member 24 , | Subject: RE: IMFL vs IMAZ vs IMLP Jeep, Thanks for clearing that up. So how is your training for AZ going? Are your 1 hour leg drills an entire hour of switching legs? |
2008-07-30 4:44 PM in reply to: #1565573 |
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2008-07-30 5:25 PM in reply to: #1565573 |
Member 24 , | Subject: RE: IMFL vs IMAZ vs IMLP PennState, thanks. Oh yeah, go BUCKEYES!! |
2008-07-31 9:22 AM in reply to: #1567492 |
Westminster, CO | Subject: RE: IMFL vs IMAZ vs IMLP PennState - 2008-07-29 12:12 PM John, you are absolutely right in your approach. I am interested in doing an independent IM some day, but LP is pretty perfect for me, and it's quite beautiful. LOgistically though, the independants make much more sense what idies are worth considering? |
2008-08-01 12:30 AM in reply to: #1572381 |
Champion 9430 No excuses! | Subject: RE: IMFL vs IMAZ vs IMLP greyhound - 2008-07-31 10:22 AM PennState - 2008-07-29 12:12 PM John, you are absolutely right in your approach. I am interested in doing an independent IM some day, but LP is pretty perfect for me, and it's quite beautiful. LOgistically though, the independants make much more sense what idies are worth considering? I did Redman last year and have nothing but great things to say about it |
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2008-08-01 11:54 AM in reply to: #1565595 |
Expert 657 Portland | Subject: RE: IMFL vs IMAZ vs IMLP ChrisM - 2008-07-28 6:15 PM I can only speak to IMAZ, and it doesn't sound at all like the "community support" you get from say a smaller town like LP or CdA. THAT SAID...... because it is not a small town, you are not going to be locked into a 5 night minimum anywhere. You can get lodging for as many or as few nights as you want, and the prices are not IM exorbitant. It's a regular town, just happens to have a race going on, along with lots of other stuff. From my info (well, bryancd....) could be hot, could be cold, coulkd be windy, could be calm, but highly unlikely to have the heat/wind combo of April. I am thinking TTL will be a bit chilly though in Nov. I saw the ave temps somewhere, and I want to say low 60s..... (then again, friend did FL the year it was freezing cold in the a.m.) I've posted this before, but my friend did LP and 4/08 AZ, said AZ was head and shoulders harder than LP. That is totally absurd!! Was your friend smoking something or are they just retarded?
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2008-08-01 12:25 PM in reply to: #1576133 |
Subject: RE: IMFL vs IMAZ vs IMLP MikeJ - 2008-08-01 9:54 AM ChrisM - 2008-07-28 6:15 PM I can only speak to IMAZ, and it doesn't sound at all like the "community support" you get from say a smaller town like LP or CdA. THAT SAID...... because it is not a small town, you are not going to be locked into a 5 night minimum anywhere. You can get lodging for as many or as few nights as you want, and the prices are not IM exorbitant. It's a regular town, just happens to have a race going on, along with lots of other stuff. From my info (well, bryancd....) could be hot, could be cold, coulkd be windy, could be calm, but highly unlikely to have the heat/wind combo of April. I am thinking TTL will be a bit chilly though in Nov. I saw the ave temps somewhere, and I want to say low 60s..... (then again, friend did FL the year it was freezing cold in the a.m.) I've posted this before, but my friend did LP and 4/08 AZ, said AZ was head and shoulders harder than LP. That is totally absurd!! Was your friend smoking something or are they just retarded?
Wow, what an a$$hat comment, I won't even get into it with you (other than to ask if you have any idea of the conditions at 4/08 IMAZ) Edited by ChrisM 2008-08-01 12:25 PM |
2008-08-01 12:28 PM in reply to: #1565573 |
Cycling Guru 15134 Fulton, MD | Subject: RE: IMFL vs IMAZ vs IMLP This year's AZ was crazy hot and somewhat windy, which made it a tough day (according to race reports I've read). But comparing it to this year's LP one might have an entirely different opinion. One being "harder" than another is a totally subjective opinion. |
2008-08-01 12:33 PM in reply to: #1576222 |
Subject: RE: IMFL vs IMAZ vs IMLP Daremo - 2008-08-01 10:28 AM This year's AZ was crazy hot and somewhat windy, which made it a tough day (according to race reports I've read). But comparing it to this year's LP one might have an entirely different opinion. One being "harder" than another is a totally subjective opinion. First of all, I never said he compared 4/08 IMAZ to 7/08 Lake Placid, that's an A$$umption someone made, perhaps to pump up their own accomplishments. He did it in 06. Second, calling 4/08 IMAZZ "crazy hot and somewhat windy" is like calling 08 LP "a bit rainy" Third, the comment was rude and and uncalled for... and my friend's was OBVIOUSLY a subjective opinion. Sorry, I am very loyal. Go after my friend, might as well go after me. Edited by ChrisM 2008-08-01 12:43 PM |
2008-08-01 1:03 PM in reply to: #1576237 |
Cycling Guru 15134 Fulton, MD | Subject: RE: IMFL vs IMAZ vs IMLP I can dig it. And I was playing happy middle ground guy trying to help resolve things here ....... I never said anything against you or your friend. Every IM is hard, it's pretty much that simple. |
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2008-08-01 2:53 PM in reply to: #1575098 |
Champion 5575 Butler | Subject: RE: IMFL vs IMAZ vs IMLP Shermbelle - 2008-08-01 12:30 AM Hope you are right. I am considering doing it next year if things work out. Honestly the big reason I am doing it is $$. I can drive there in a few hours as opposed to having to fly the family there plus the race is cheap and you can sign up at the discounted rate untile 7/31 for a September race. I have heard the course can be windy and is extemely flat. I don't like hills but see the disadvantages of a completely flat course. Plus you don't get the hoopla of the big race of 2000+ so I can imagine there being less people around on the bike especially.greyhound - 2008-07-31 10:22 AM PennState - 2008-07-29 12:12 PM John, you are absolutely right in your approach. I am interested in doing an independent IM some day, but LP is pretty perfect for me, and it's quite beautiful. LOgistically though, the independants make much more sense what idies are worth considering? I did Redman last year and have nothing but great things to say about it |
2008-08-01 4:33 PM in reply to: #1565573 |
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2008-08-01 4:53 PM in reply to: #1565573 |
Lethbridge, Alberta | Subject: RE: IMFL vs IMAZ vs IMLP Just to toss it out there Kathy, but have you considered IM Canada? It can get warm, though not always, but it's not humid. It's a bit later in the season. There are a couple of hills on the bike course though. |
2008-08-01 6:03 PM in reply to: #1576206 |
Expert 657 Portland | Subject: RE: IMFL vs IMAZ vs IMLP My point is pretty much what Rick and Fred have stated above, although not as nicely as they put it, but If you look at your post, what you said is "AZ was head and shoulders harder than LP." Not, "04/08 AZ was head and shoulders harder than '06 LP for him". To make such a blanket statement is ludicrous. p.s. I have made no reference to which races i have done, so any suggestion that I am self promoting is silly.
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