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2009-03-11 10:23 AM

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Nothing to do with LOST the TV show, but since it's not on tonight and I can't start that weekly thread for no reason, I'll start a new weekly thread highlighting albums you may probably have missed. Nothing too obscure IMHO, but for the 20-something yos, the uninitiated, and people that think music begins and ends with Rush/Aerosmith/G'n'R/insert-your-carp-band-here, a chance to broaden your horizons. Couple definitions:

Album: defined (by me) as a collection of musical recordings released together. For all you disingenuous wags out there who equate "album" with a twelve-inch vinyl long-playing record, be aware that you are wrong, that it has nothing to do with the medium on which the album is purchased, which can be an LP, an 8-track tape, a cassette, a compact disc, or a set of MP3 files. Any of those can constitute an album.

Rock era: anything after 1960. Again has nothing to do with your overly narrow definition of what constitutes rock music (vs pop, rock 'n' roll, alternative, etc.) It's all rock to me, and we can include all post-a960 releases here.

I'll do one a week, but feel free to add your own in the meantime.

First up is a folk rock- psychedelia fusion by Arthur Lee's 1967 version of Love, titled Forever Changes:

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Flamenco guitar, demented lyrics, gorgeous orchestral arrangements, the album was groudbreaking and influential yet a commercial failure upon release. The album has aged well, and is a perennial on the various "Best Albums of All Time" lists that pop up on occasion.

Here's a concert video of a couple of the better known songs from the album.

And here's a pretty comprehensive essay on the album.



2009-03-11 10:56 AM
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Great idea for a thread...

I will check this album out tonight...
2009-03-11 12:08 PM
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For those in the know, this gem by Lloyd Cole & The Commotions is a truly underrated classic from the 80's. At turns rock, pop and country, this album is held together by breathtakingly thoughtful and clever lyrics that had critics of its day hailing Lloyd Cole as "the next Bob Dylan" (which in my mind is a vast understatement of the brilliance of Lloyd Cole.)

Probably because of his lyrical intelligence and a penchant for writing songs that don't easily fall into any predetermined "formats", Lloyd Cole (who stills tours extensively in Europe) never found his place on American radio. But do yourself a favor and rediscover this lost disc, featuring the classic singles "Perfect Skin", "Rattlesnakes" and "Are You Ready To Be Heartbroken?" which you can easily preview on YouTube.






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2009-03-18 9:36 AM
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This week's lost album is Van Morrison's second, Astral Weeks:

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After his first solo album with Bang (containing "Brown Eyed Girl", Morrison had a dispute with that label on the musical direction he should take, with Bang pushing for a more pop sound. End result of a long story is that Morrison left Bang for Warner Brothers and recorded this Impressionist masterpiece. Morrison's voice is the focus, of course, but it's Richard Davis' basswork that provides the lyrical counterpoint and becomes the lead instrument.

Chosen as the late great Lester Bang's desert island record in Stranded, read his review here.

2009-03-18 10:00 AM
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the bear - 2009-03-11 10:23 AM

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Rock era: anything after 1960. Again has nothing to do with your overly narrow definition of what constitutes rock music (vs pop, rock 'n' roll, alternative, etc.) It's all rock to me, and we can include all post-a960 releases here. 

You're starting to sound like Billy Joel here.

The '60s stuff I'm looking forward to.  Keep 'em coming, bear.

2009-03-18 10:19 AM
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the bear - 2009-03-18 10:36 AM

This week's lost album is Van Morrison's second, Astral Weeks:

AW

After his first solo album with Bang (containing "Brown Eyed Girl"), Morrison had a dispute with that label on the musical direction he should take, with Bang pushing for a more pop sound. End result of a long story is that Morrison left Bang for Warner Brothers and recorded this Impressionist masterpiece. Morrison's voice is the focus, of course, but it's Richard Davis' basswork that provides the lyrical counterpoint and becomes the lead instrument.

Chosen as the late great Lester Bang's desert island record in Stranded, read his review here.



I know he did the whole album through, for the first time in decades, in the last month or so..He changed up the sequence a little but everything I read about the shows was really positive. This one makes my 'desert island' list, too. At my first ever radio-dj show, I played 'The Way Young Lovers Do'.

Album is virtually impossible to get tired of listening to.


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the bear - 2009-03-18 9:36 AM

This week's lost album is Van Morrison's second, Astral Weeks:

AW

After his first solo album with Bang (containing "Brown Eyed Girl", Morrison had a dispute with that label on the musical direction he should take, with Bang pushing for a more pop sound. End result of a long story is that Morrison left Bang for Warner Brothers and recorded this Impressionist masterpiece. Morrison's voice is the focus, of course, but it's Richard Davis' basswork that provides the lyrical counterpoint and becomes the lead instrument.

Chosen as the late great Lester Bang's desert island record in Stranded, read his review here.

x2 - A favorite of mine.

2009-03-18 5:16 PM
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Is this one too obvious? Ok, it's probably not technically "Lost" although I keep meeting (younger) people who don't really know it.



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madkat - 2009-03-18 5:16 PM

Is this one too obvious? Ok, it's probably not technically "Lost" although I keep meeting (younger) people who don't really know it.

  

Well, "lost" is as subjective as it gets, but, really, this is 1) The Beatles, and 2) their album that changed all of music. IMHO the only way this qualifies as "lost" is that it has aged badly, sounds dated in places, and has fallen on the list of Best Beatles Albums to like fourth or fifth, behind The Beatles, Revolver, Abbey Road, and maybe Rubber Soul.

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This week's album, at the risk of losing the few of you playing along, delves into the weirdness. I won't make a habit of playing the weird card, probably won't get any weirder than this one. Maybe I can't get any weirder than Trout Mask Replica:

TMR

The previous album, Astral Weeks, was recorded in a few sessions over 48 hours yet sounds like a finely crafted long-term project. Conversely, Trout Mask Replica sounds like an accidental but forceful collision of musical genres but was rehearsed for up to fourteen hours per day for over a year in seclusion and poverty. TMR is one of those albums that took everything that came before it, combined it all together to create something entirely different, and thus influenced much of what came after. This one's not going to be appreciated as easily as the previously cited lost albums, but rather needs to be heard dozens of times so that it grows on you. Like a fungus or something.

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A little trivia for ya'll...can anybody name the famous faces Lennon wanted on the cover but were denied by the record company???


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Artist:  Joe Cocker

Album: Luxury You Can Afford

Why? - totally off the main stream path, cut-out bin album yet a classic.  Great vocals. Joe had it all together for this album.  "Together" is relative and fleeting for Joe Cocker, I know.

 

 

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Artist:  The Byrds

Album: Sweetheart of the Rodeo

Why? It's the roots of the "roots" movement. Americana happened here first. A bold experiment in fusing country, folk and rock it was initially a commercial failure that set the stage for decades of music to come. It's not difficult to listen to at first, but it never gets too familiar. There's always something to enjoy and appreciate about it on every new listen.

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marmadaddy - 2009-03-26 6:47 PM

Nice one.

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I love this thread!
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the bear - 2009-03-26 6:09 PM

This week's album, at the risk of losing the few of you playing along, delves into the weirdness. I won't make a habit of playing the weird card, probably won't get any weirder than this one. Maybe I can't get any weirder than Trout Mask Replica:

TMR

The previous album, Astral Weeks, was recorded in a few sessions over 48 hours yet sounds like a finely crafted long-term project. Conversely, Trout Mask Replica sounds like an accidental but forceful collision of musical genres but was rehearsed for up to fourteen hours per day for over a year in seclusion and poverty. TMR is one of those albums that took everything that came before it, combined it all together to create something entirely different, and thus influenced much of what came after. This one's not going to be appreciated as easily as the previously cited lost albums, but rather needs to be heard dozens of times so that it grows on you. Like a fungus or something.

Which Zappa album will you bring out - anyone of those beats Captain Beefheart, who was a Zappa student.

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1stTimeTri - 2009-03-26 9:13 PM

Which Zappa album will you bring out - anyone of those beats Captain Beefheart, who was a Zappa student.

Zappa's body of work may arguably beat Van Vliet's, but none of his albums touches this one. Certainly not the first time a student outdid the teacher.

Besides, I would no sooner classify Zappa's albums as "lost" than I would one of Costello's. But thanks for playing!

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2 live albums from the 70's that may or may not have been overlooked as great. 

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This thread makes me bitter I still can't find my vinyl collection that I left at my parents house when I went to college...
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Big Mac - 2009-03-27 7:42 AM

 

2 live albums from the 70's that may or may not have been overlooked as great. 

Triumph - 1985, recorded during 1981 to 1985.



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Big Mac - 2009-03-27 7:42 AM

 

2 live albums from the 70's that may or may not have been overlooked as great. 

 

Some things are better off left lost.

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ride_like_u_stole_it - 2009-03-27 9:04 AM

 

 

Here's a rare one, regional mid-1980's punk/psychadelic

Edit to add: Here's a better video.....they are back together and performing Win!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJJOveLAGBo 

 

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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3614905766416754780

 

 

Absolutely hated them - which is weird because all of my friends thought I would love them.  Something about Bruce Merkle just flat out annoyed me.  Saw them live in late 85 in Georgetown (stationed in Virginia) and I walked out and went to The Library (College bar - not the place with geeky librarians). 

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Yeah, I can see hating them too. It's probably the Flipper influence.

Flipper= best worst band ever

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