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 2009-06-10 9:35 AM in reply to: #2206752 |
Pro  5011  Twin Cities |  Subject: RE: Best Tri stateIowa seems to struggle with concept of "shoulders" on roads. I would fear for my life if I had to ride there daily. (And I am a native Iowan.) Give me my 100s of miles of country roads with lovely, 12-foot shoulders any day. |
| 2009-06-10 9:46 AM in reply to: #2207206 |
Master 1651    Breckenridge, CO | Subject: RE: Best Tri state Thaitri - 2009-06-10 8:02 AM Looks like San Diego is getting the most votes. Better in which way from N Cali lets say the Walnut Creek area (just east of the bay).... For OW swimming La Jolla Cove is awesome. For cycling, I have ridden in the Walnut Creek area but it was so long ago I can't remember much except there was a really cool climb we did some reps on. In San Diego, I usually stay in south La Jolla, every significant road has great safe bike lanes, the motorists are very courteous and there was a good climb right there (Mt. Soledad) as well as a great flat loop on Fiesta Island. Mount Palomar is close by too. |
| 2009-06-10 9:51 AM in reply to: #2207316 |
Alpharetta, Georgia Bronze member | Subject: RE: Best Tri state breckview - 2009-06-10 9:34 AM But IMO, the best part of Colorado is the active lifestyle. This was the first thing I noticed when I went to visit my boyfriend's family. You're right... the weirdo's are the ones NOT doing something outdoors-- whether it's running, mountain biking, cycling, hiking, climbing, skiing, kayaking, whatever. This makes it a really desireable place (among the other things you listed) to live for me, just the attitude alone. You don't find that in many other places in this country. |
| 2009-06-10 10:26 AM in reply to: #2205888 |
Pro 4824 Houston | Subject: RE: Best Tri state I've lived in Denver and most of my family lives there now. Though I agree it tends to be a more active population it is way too cold, snows too much and the pollution! Of course I live in Houton where it is too flat, hot/humid and.... the pollution! The other issue at least in the Houston area is lack of OW options. I did a lot of growing up in Arizona and would probably pick there. My sister lives in Cave Creek which is very nice. You can train year round, there are mountains and low humidity. The only disadvantage is everything is BROWN! I would miss the greenery for sure. I haven't spent much time in California but my husband travels to San Diego for business and loves it there. If I could create a place it would be Austin with 20% lower humidity and 10 degrees cooler. |
| 2009-06-10 10:48 AM in reply to: #2205888 |
| 244 | Subject: RE: Best Tri state I live in Co Springs, so I may be biased. It is perfect here. We have more altitude than Denver, little pollution, tons of open roads, trails etc. We get more sunny days a yr than any other US city and the cold is a dry cold. I'd say there are only 10 days a yr it is too cold to train outside. |
| 2009-06-10 11:06 AM in reply to: #2207507 |
Master 1651 Breckenridge, CO | Subject: RE: Best Tri state KeriKadi - 2009-06-10 9:26 AM I've lived in Denver and most of my family lives there now. Though I agree it tends to be a more active population it is way too cold, snows too much and the pollution! I assume you're talking about air pollution because IMO Denver is very clean in terms of other types of pollution. To be fair, Denver is not in the top 25 cities in the US in terms of bad air pollution (small particle). And Greeley, CO (50 miles from downtown Denver) is among the cleanest US cities in terms of air pollution (small particle). http://www.lungusa.org/site/pp.asp?c=dvLUK9O0E&b=50752 In terms of High Ozone (last 3 years), Denver County, CO has a weighted average of 6.0 days while Harris County, TX is averaging 53.7 days, and San Diego is 29.5 days. In terms of particle pollution (last 3 years), Denver is 4.3 days, Harris is 3.3 days, San Diego is 9.8. http://www.stateoftheair.org/2009/states/texas/ http://www.stateoftheair.org/2009/states/colorado/ http://www.stateoftheair.org/2009/states/california/ The "brown cloud" that occurs sometimes over Denver is largely caused by weather (temperature inversion) that doesn't allow the pollution to disolve into the atmosphere. In the olden days when forest fires raged all summer uncontrolled, the pollution in Denver and everywhere in the Southern Rockies was much worse than it is now. |
| 2009-06-10 11:21 AM in reply to: #2205888 |
| Expert 638 | Subject: RE: Best Tri state Good thread. I'm going to follow the rule of not picking my own state (Minnesota), although I wouldn't trade being part of the Minnesota/Wisconsin Tri community for anything. When I want to go for an open water swim, I choose between the crystal clear lake that is 2 blocks away or the one that is 1 mile away or the other quiet one that is 2 miles away. All my favorite bikes or runs originate from my front door. The races are packed with competitive atheletes, and there are tons of races from June - September. But the season is a bit short... .there is a reason by Lifetime Fitness has such a huge presence here  I've spent significant time living or working in Chicago, Texas, Colorado, New York, and California. Of the states I don't live in, I'd have to choose California. San Diego, the Central Coast, or San Fran would all be wonderful places to train, and would be at the top of my list. Winters in La Jolla, and summers in Minnesota. Sounds pretty good if I can pull it off someday. |
| 2009-06-10 11:23 AM in reply to: #2205888 |
| Member 15 | Subject: RE: Best Tri state I am putting a vote in for the Salt Lake City area of Utah. The snow melts fairly quickly on the low lands. The traffic is low and the kinds of bike rides available are endless. There are a ton or reservoirs to do OWS's. Pollution is low when you get outside of the city in the winter. We have elevation too. I have thought about California, but there are just so many people and traffic to deal with. |
| 2009-06-10 11:29 AM in reply to: #2205888 |
Pro 4824 Houston | Subject: RE: Best Tri state I guess apearances can be deceiving. My Mom lives in Englewood and though her balcony faces west she can only see the mountains on Sundays after the cloud of what appears to be pollution has died down from all the weekday traffic. Anything colder than 50 is too cold for *me* to train in so CO wouldn't work for me but it is beautiful! |
| 2009-06-10 11:35 AM in reply to: #2205888 |
Master 1436 Wilmington | Subject: RE: Best Tri state Um Have we allllllllllllllllll forgotten North Carolina huhuhuh. Beachs , the mountains, great weather, tons of clean natural lakes,well kept roads. Cheap to state to live in compared to CA and Co. Friendly people. What else do I have to say ,this place is epic lol |
| 2009-06-10 11:42 AM in reply to: #2207593 |
Champion 9600 Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: Best Tri state LaurenCO - 2009-06-10 10:48 AM I live in Co Springs, so I may be biased. It is perfect here. We have more altitude than Denver, little pollution, tons of open roads, trails etc. We get more sunny days a yr than any other US city and the cold is a dry cold. I'd say there are only 10 days a yr it is too cold to train outside. CO Springs is great but I think we have the most sunny days per year here in Phoenix. http://www.weathertoday.net/weatherfacts/numbersunny_city_desc.php Edited by bryancd 2009-06-10 11:45 AM |
| 2009-06-10 11:53 AM in reply to: #2205888 |
Master 1853 syracuse | Subject: RE: Best Tri state anywhere where the off-season doesnt force you to ride a trainer or spend countless Saturdays in the spin room at the YMCA.... my vote would be San Diego, as I imagine there are some good hills there for bike training....Arizona as well, though i'm not sure what hills are like in 'zona....i imagine decent in the right places... Florida, too flat.... coloroda would be up there as well, though too much snow, maybe? wow, what a long answer to a simple question. San Diego would be my final answer |
| 2009-06-10 11:54 AM in reply to: #2207206 |
Champion 5781 Northridge, California | Subject: RE: Best Tri state Thaitri - 2009-06-10 7:02 AM Looks like San Diego is getting the most votes. Better in which way from N Cali lets say the Walnut Creek area (just east of the bay).... Well, that and number of rainy days: 35 per year in LA, 42 in SD...62 in SF. Fewer in the East Bay, of course, but still more than in SoCal...even as far inland as Stockton, they average over 50...Sacramento nearly 60. |
| 2009-06-10 11:58 AM in reply to: #2207817 |
Elite 3315 Miami | Subject: RE: Best Tri state cusetri - 2009-06-10 11:53 AM anywhere where the off-season doesnt force you to ride a trainer or spend countless Saturdays in the spin room at the YMCA.... my vote would be San Diego, as I imagine there are some good hills there for bike training....Arizona as well, though i'm not sure what hills are like in 'zona....i imagine decent in the right places... Florida, too flat.... coloroda would be up there as well, though too much snow, maybe? wow, what a long answer to a simple question. San Diego would be my final answer florida might be flat but the wind makes up for it. eventhough i lived in utah and had been to colorado, being into triathlons now it would be hard to give up the fact that i can train EVERY SINGLE weekend 365 outside including r / b / s. yes you need a wetsuit in the cooler months but that is about it. Edited by trix 2009-06-10 12:00 PM |
| 2009-06-10 12:01 PM in reply to: #2206160 |
Extreme Veteran 615 Dallas, TX | Subject: RE: Best Tri state Jazon71 - 2009-06-09 5:09 PM bmcgee - 2009-06-09 4:58 PM JeepFleeb - 2009-06-09 4:10 PM Texas! The season goes from March to November and we have more USAT athletes and races than any other state. And mountains, flatlands, wind, hills, trees...pretty much everything. Plus, more roads than any other state. However, for the purpose of the OP, I think we should try picking states we don't currently live in. In that case...I'd probably have to pick Colorado (or maybe Hawaii). Yes, but think Austin Are we including the "bike friendly" factor in our analysis? I wouldn't put Texas up at the top if that's the case. Way too many crazy drivers in the DFW area who have little respect for cyclists IMO. |
| 2009-06-10 12:12 PM in reply to: #2205888 |
Elite 2844 Reston VA | Subject: RE: Best Tri state Virginia! I only say this because I love where I live. Reston, VA has gotta be one of the best places on the East Coast to train/live. Swimming: 10+ local outdoor pools as part of the Association. All have permanent lap lanes - including a 50M and a heated pool open until 9PM for adults only (summer only), community center during the winter. Biking: Washington & Old Dominion trail runs right thru the town and is 40+ miles in length - basically from DC to the start of the Mtns. From about 10 miles west there are numerous routes through Loudoun County including some sweet hills. Running: Almost every road in Reston was designed (planned community) with asphalt trails running alongside roads. These paths also go into the woods between communtities and make the running choices limitless. Add this to the numerous tri-clubs/teams in the area and the fact that Reston has perhaps the highest triathlete-person ratio in the area - makes it a great place to live. |
| 2009-06-10 12:38 PM in reply to: #2206264 |
| 126 | Subject: RE: Best Tri state "My first tri career was in North Texas and sorry to say that anywhere near Dallas/Ft. Worth would be at the absolute bottom of my list." i absolutely couldnt agree more. i am born and raised in texas and have been all over texas. texas is a great place to die on a bike. i will probably become a statistic one of these days because of it. every time i go out and ride, i have a some form of "near death" experience. i wished i could say good things but that is not the case. any one with any amount of "safety" and awareness in their cognitive reasoning will know that texas roads are not safe for bicyclists..... |
| 2009-06-10 12:45 PM in reply to: #2207662 |
Elite 4048 Gilbert, Az. | Subject: RE: Best Tri state breckview - 2009-06-10 9:06 AM And Greeley, CO (50 miles from downtown Denver) is among the cleanest US cities in terms of air pollution Hrm...what part of Greely is 50 miles from downtown Denver? :D (That's where I went to college). Greeley is a great town, and ever growing. Last time I was there, the edges of Greeley were butting up against the edges of Ft. Collins. About 20 years I predict one large city along I-25 from Ft. Collins to Boulder. The only thing really wrong with Greeley is Monfort, the meat packing plant. Horrid, horrid smells the days they burned all the blood and stuff. John |
| 2009-06-10 12:46 PM in reply to: #2205888 |
Master 2216 | Subject: RE: Best Tri state I'm glad all the Californians seem to be happy there. Can you talk the one's that left to come back so we can un-Californicate our states?  j/k 18 years there was too much for me. |
| 2009-06-10 12:53 PM in reply to: #2207662 |
Pro 4277 Parker, CO | Subject: RE: Best Tri state breckview - 2009-06-10 10:06 AM KeriKadi - 2009-06-10 9:26 AM I've lived in Denver and most of my family lives there now. Though I agree it tends to be a more active population it is way too cold, snows too much and the pollution! I assume you're talking about air pollution because IMO Denver is very clean in terms of other types of pollution. To be fair, Denver is not in the top 25 cities in the US in terms of bad air pollution (small particle). And Greeley, CO (50 miles from downtown Denver) is among the cleanest US cities in terms of air pollution (small particle). http://www.lungusa.org/site/pp.asp?c=dvLUK9O0E&b=50752In terms of High Ozone (last 3 years), Denver County, CO has a weighted average of 6.0 days while Harris County, TX is averaging 53.7 days, and San Diego is 29.5 days. In terms of particle pollution (last 3 years), Denver is 4.3 days, Harris is 3.3 days, San Diego is 9.8. http://www.stateoftheair.org/2009/states/texas/http://www.stateoftheair.org/2009/states/colorado/ http://www.stateoftheair.org/2009/states/california/The "brown cloud" that occurs sometimes over Denver is largely caused by weather (temperature inversion) that doesn't allow the pollution to disolve into the atmosphere. In the olden days when forest fires raged all summer uncontrolled, the pollution in Denver and everywhere in the Southern Rockies was much worse than it is now.
Anyway, I've got to agree about Colorado being a great place to train and outdoor activities. I live about 20-miles SE of Denver but can get on my bike and head west towards Connifer and ride up a mountain canyon and back for a bout a 75-mile ride with over 6,000 feet of elevation gain. Don't need to load my bike on my car to get some great rides! As far as the air polution, most days when not obscurred by cloud cover I can see south to Pikes Peak all the way north to Longs. While pollution can be a concern on some days, not a lot different than many other cities the size of Denver.
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| 2009-06-10 12:55 PM in reply to: #2207732 |
Master 1651 Breckenridge, CO | Subject: RE: Best Tri state KeriKadi - 2009-06-10 10:29 AM I guess apearances can be deceiving. My Mom lives in Englewood and though her balcony faces west she can only see the mountains on Sundays after the cloud of what appears to be pollution has died down from all the weekday traffic. The sight line from Englewood to Mount Evans is about 30 miles. |
| 2009-06-10 12:57 PM in reply to: #2205888 |
Elite 2645 Phoenix, AZ | Subject: RE: Best Tri state I vote for AZ. You'll seldom be rained out of a workout, and you'll never been snowed out. You can drive 2 hours north to Flagstaff for high elevation training. Tons of hills, tons of lakes to swim in. Train 12 months out of the year in blue skies. |
| 2009-06-10 1:22 PM in reply to: #2207887 |
Pro 4481 Reston | Subject: RE: Best Tri state shelly123 - 2009-06-10 1:12 PM Virginia! I only say this because I love where I live. Reston, VA has gotta be one of the best places on the East Coast to train/live. Swimming: 10+ local outdoor pools as part of the Association. All have permanent lap lanes - including a 50M and a heated pool open until 9PM for adults only (summer only), community center during the winter. Biking: Washington & Old Dominion trail runs right thru the town and is 40+ miles in length - basically from DC to the start of the Mtns. From about 10 miles west there are numerous routes through Loudoun County including some sweet hills. Running: Almost every road in Reston was designed (planned community) with asphalt trails running alongside roads. These paths also go into the woods between communtities and make the running choices limitless. Add this to the numerous tri-clubs/teams in the area and the fact that Reston has perhaps the highest triathlete-person ratio in the area - makes it a great place to live. don't forget tues/thurs Reston Bike Club rides. 5 levels of group rides with sometimes well over 100 people showing up at a time. |
| 2009-06-11 3:17 PM in reply to: #2205888 |
| 569 | Subject: RE: Best Tri state WE HAVE A WINNER!!!! SAN DIEGO, followed by who knows. Im from Boston and the NE did not even even one vote!!! |
 2009-06-11 4:21 PM in reply to: #2205888 |
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