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 2009-12-11 8:05 AM |
Master  1436    Wilmington |  Subject: Thirsty during long swimsWhen I go for my long training swims(IM distances) in the pool and in the ocean I get thirsty. I treat the swims as if I was in a race at a good pace, no stopping at pool side to drink some water or swim back to the beach or dock. Now I been tod to take small sips but salt water and clorine does not appeal to me so much. I know when I swim I do take in some of the water but not enough to hydrate. Any advice. |
| 2009-12-11 8:53 AM in reply to: #2553769 |
Expert 1456 Central New Jersey | Subject: RE: Thirsty during long swims Water bottle at the edge of the pool? I don't use it much but I know it's there if I need it. |
| 2009-12-11 9:03 AM in reply to: #2553769 |
| NH | Subject: RE: Thirsty during long swims I've been waiting to hear the answer to this in regards to races. My long swims are either in a lake with clean water, or a pool where I grab a quick drink between laps, but I've wondered what people do in the ocean (like during an actual IM swim). |
| 2009-12-11 9:10 AM in reply to: #2553769 |
Master 2355 Houston, TX | Subject: RE: Thirsty during long swims Drink during practice, don't be stupid, getting dehydrated during the week makes everything harder.. recovery.. the next workout.. etc.. We aren't always well hydrated leading into a training session. It's easy to get distracted during work and not drink enough... or wake up in the morning and not enough time between wake up and pool to drink enough. In a race you are typically well hydrated before the start of the race and it's not such a problem. However, don't replicate that in your regular training, maybe on a race rehersal day. Not on a regular basis... that's being dumb. |
| 2009-12-11 9:21 AM in reply to: #2553769 |
| Regular 190 | Subject: RE: Thirsty during long swims I would suggest a water bottle on the side of the pool. You can lose fluids at nearly the same rate swimming as you can running or biking. The difference is that you may not realize it because you are already wet. Good way to figure that out is weigh yourself before and after the swim. You shouldn't allow yourself to lose more than a pound or two from fluid loss. In fact when I coached high school aged swimmers we weighed them before and after practice to make sure they were getting enough fluids. |
| 2009-12-11 11:18 AM in reply to: #2553769 |
Master 2406 Bellevue, WA | Subject: RE: Thirsty during long swims Train like you plan to race. Obviously you're not going to be able to drink if it's a saltwater swim, and none of the lakes I've swam in during training have had water safe to drink to begin with. And what with all the peeing in the wetsuits threads, I think any swim with 2000 people is going to make the water undrinkable no matter what. Hydrate well before your long swim, then deal with it. Edited by brucemorgan 2009-12-11 11:19 AM |
| 2009-12-11 11:54 AM in reply to: #2553769 |
Master 1517 Raleigh | Subject: RE: Thirsty during long swims camel bak? |
| 2009-12-11 12:02 PM in reply to: #2554411 |
Master 1436 Wilmington | Subject: RE: Thirsty during long swims halfpint - 2009-12-11 11:54 AM camel bak? MMM not a bad idea. Just wonder how that will effect my roll and stroke with the weight on my back. |
| 2009-12-11 12:07 PM in reply to: #2553769 |
| Extreme Veteran 1030 West Windsor, NJ | Subject: RE: Thirsty during long swims Livestrong191 - 2009-12-11 9:05 AM Who told you this one? I am not an IMer, but I cannot believe that this is good advice. I would rather risk being slightly dehydrated headed to my bike than risk swallowing something that is going to make my stomach a mess later (and possibly dehydrate you more, if you know what I mean). I think the advice above is good advice. Be well hydrated at the swim start (or before headed to the pool), and you should be fine. I have to believe that you can exercise for 60-90 mins without risking too much on the dehydration side. You can make up for it on the bike if need be. For training purposes, refuel if needed with water bottle, but I think your question is more along the lines of how to prepare for the race. |
| 2009-12-11 12:16 PM in reply to: #2554440 |
Master 1436 Wilmington | Subject: RE: Thirsty during long swims JohnAgs3 - 2009-12-11 12:07 PM Livestrong191 - 2009-12-11 9:05 AM ...Now I been tod to take small sips but salt water and clorine does not appeal to me so much. I know when I swim I do take in some of the water but not enough to hydrate. Any advice. Who told you this one? .A friend who is in a master swim club his coach told . BUT I mean regarless you still injest the water when you swimming anyway but small amount. I see everyones point about hydrating before hand. I am just trying to replicate how race day will be with no stops during the swim part for a sip. |
| 2009-12-11 12:20 PM in reply to: #2553904 |
Champion 6539 South Jersey | Subject: RE: Thirsty during long swims smilford - 2009-12-11 10:10 AM Drink during practice, don't be stupid, getting dehydrated during the week makes everything harder.. recovery.. the next workout.. etc.. We aren't always well hydrated leading into a training session. It's easy to get distracted during work and not drink enough... or wake up in the morning and not enough time between wake up and pool to drink enough. In a race you are typically well hydrated before the start of the race and it's not such a problem. However, don't replicate that in your regular training, maybe on a race rehersal day. Not on a regular basis... that's being dumb. This. Drink during your training. You will be more hydrated going into a race than you are a training session, and will be fine. |
| 2009-12-11 12:30 PM in reply to: #2554454 |
Champion 7233 | Subject: RE: Thirsty during long swims in poen water you're prob going to have to deal, but how often are you doing long, IM distance swims in a pool? |
| 2009-12-11 12:42 PM in reply to: #2553769 |
Bob 2194 Binghamton, NY | Subject: RE: Thirsty during long swims You won't need to drink anything during a 4225 yd swim. Hydrate before and hydrate after the swim. If you are doing sets of 5 x 4225 @ 1:15:00 you may need to bring some fluids and a psychiatrist. |
| 2009-12-11 12:46 PM in reply to: #2553769 |
Coach 10487 Boston, MA | Subject: RE: Thirsty during long swims I drink plenty when training if I am thirsty. I always have some water/sports drink handy just in case and if anything to drink after I am done. I do OWS and when I do I just drink before. I've never experienced any trouble when racing, hence the train like you race mantra seems a bit of a overkill in this case IMO. |
| 2009-12-11 1:00 PM in reply to: #2554454 |
| Extreme Veteran 1030 West Windsor, NJ | Subject: RE: Thirsty during long swims Livestrong191 - 2009-12-11 1:16 PM Two points here: (1) I injest very little, if anything, when I swim. Good swimmers dont injest water, IMHO. You might take some into the cake hole when breathing, but spit it right back out while exhaling. And (2) its one thing to occasionally take in a little by mistake, but its another to actively "sip" the water and swallow it. eeeewwww. I see everyones point about hydrating before hand. I am just trying to replicate how race day will be with no stops during the swim part for a sip. In general, no need to tax your body any more than necessary, so drink as needed during long workouts. But, I think that as you get closer to your race, if it makes you feel more comfortable, do some long swims and make sure you are plenty hydrated beforehand. My guess is that you wont need to take in anything during. |
| 2009-12-12 3:48 PM in reply to: #2553769 |
Veteran 155 Pittsburgh, PA | Subject: RE: Thirsty during long swims Try as I can - I always take in sea or lake water. A doctor friend recommended I get my shots. There's all kinds of bugs in the water. |
| 2009-12-12 8:25 PM in reply to: #2553769 |
Coach 9167 Stairway to Seven | Subject: RE: Thirsty during long swims THere is absolutely no reason that you need to do long pool sessions without hydrating. We train so that we can get better at individual disciplines and if you are swimming every swim session as a 2.4 mile swim wihtout hydrating you are really limiting opportunities to become a better swimmer. If you want to suffer, do what you are doing and you will be used to race day. If you want to train smart, hydrate and fule yourself well for workouts so that you can get stronger, improve technque. create new swim specific muscle mass and muscle memory and overall enjoy your trianing experience. You will have ZERO problems on race day, even if you hydrate during every pool session. Train smart...you've gotten a lot of questionable advice IMO. |
| 2009-12-12 9:12 PM in reply to: #2556024 |
Bob 2194 Binghamton, NY | Subject: RE: Thirsty during long swims AdventureBear - 2009-12-12 9:25 PM THere is absolutely no reason that you need to do long pool sessions without hydrating. We train so that we can get better at individual disciplines and if you are swimming every swim session as a 2.4 mile swim wihtout hydrating you are really limiting opportunities to become a better swimmer. If you want to suffer, do what you are doing and you will be used to race day. If you want to train smart, hydrate and fuel yourself well for workouts so that you can get stronger, improve technique. create new swim specific muscle mass and muscle memory and overall enjoy your training experience. You will have ZERO problems on race day, even if you hydrate during every pool session. Train smart...you've gotten a lot of questionable advice IMO. I don't think the OP was doing EVERY swim as a 2.4 mile swim. I wouldn't advise someone not to hydrate during a workout but to swim a 2.4 mi swim during a workout there is no need to hydrate, IMO, if a person is hydrated before and after the swim. Hell, back in "the day", we would get through a 15K yd workout without a drink. Smart, nope. We just did what was written on the board. Never thought too much about hydration back then. |
| 2009-12-13 8:27 AM in reply to: #2553769 |
| Lafayette, CO | Subject: RE: Thirsty during long swims While I agree with hydrating during a swim is not a bad thing you might be able to reduce the issue by being better hydrated before you enter the pool. Are you drinking enough water throughout your day, every day? |
| 2009-12-14 5:28 PM in reply to: #2556064 |
Coach 9167 Stairway to Seven | Subject: RE: Thirsty during long swims I don't disagree with you, it just sounded like this swimmer was leaning towards deliberately not hydrating for or during his swim workouts. I don't bring a water bottle to every swim workout, but when I do I feel a while lot better. Like most people, I try to hydrate well before and after, but then again, most of my swim workouts are only 2-3K Also FWIW, I don't swallow water or air when I swim. Water enters my mouth but it goes back out. Air goes in my lungs, not into my stomach, lol. rstocks3 - 2009-12-12 8:12 PM AdventureBear - 2009-12-12 9:25 PM THere is absolutely no reason that you need to do long pool sessions without hydrating. We train so that we can get better at individual disciplines and if you are swimming every swim session as a 2.4 mile swim wihtout hydrating you are really limiting opportunities to become a better swimmer. If you want to suffer, do what you are doing and you will be used to race day. If you want to train smart, hydrate and fuel yourself well for workouts so that you can get stronger, improve technique. create new swim specific muscle mass and muscle memory and overall enjoy your training experience. You will have ZERO problems on race day, even if you hydrate during every pool session. Train smart...you've gotten a lot of questionable advice IMO. I don't think the OP was doing EVERY swim as a 2.4 mile swim. I wouldn't advise someone not to hydrate during a workout but to swim a 2.4 mi swim during a workout there is no need to hydrate, IMO, if a person is hydrated before and after the swim. Hell, back in "the day", we would get through a 15K yd workout without a drink. Smart, nope. We just did what was written on the board. Never thought too much about hydration back then. |
| 2009-12-14 5:51 PM in reply to: #2553769 |
Master 1359 South of SLC | Subject: RE: Thirsty during long swims Can't imagine taking a slurp from the lake when I am racing. We have standards for clean water for a reason you know. Mike |
| 2009-12-22 6:22 AM in reply to: #2553769 |
Master 1534 San Diego, CA | Subject: RE: Thirsty during long swims For Pool swims: I always keep a bottle on the deck. Not that I get overly dehydrated during swims, but my mouth gets dry, and I like a little sip... For longer swims (including IM distance): I usually drink a full bottle of my favorite sports mix (Infinit) well before the race (sometimes sipping half at bedtime and then the rest a couple of hours before the race). I then sip a small to moderate amount in the hour before the race and I am fine. My longest OWS (training day in Ocean) was about 3+ miles. I have a 2 piece DeSoto wetsuit (luv it), and I put a flat plastic bottle (made by fuelbelt?) inside the front chest area of my longjohn. Other than looking a little funny, it was not a problem. no discomfort or rubbing. It was awesome to have that bottle at the turnaround. There were a few friends that were beggin' to share !
Edited by dhyte 2009-12-22 6:23 AM |
| 2009-12-22 8:11 AM in reply to: #2554466 |
Champion 6503 NOVA - Ironic for an Endurance Athlete | Subject: RE: Thirsty during long swims LaurenSU02 - 2009-12-11 12:20 PM This is obviously the right answer. ^^^^^^^^^^^^smilford - 2009-12-11 10:10 AM Drink during practice, don't be stupid, getting dehydrated during the week makes everything harder.. recovery.. the next workout.. etc.. We aren't always well hydrated leading into a training session. It's easy to get distracted during work and not drink enough... or wake up in the morning and not enough time between wake up and pool to drink enough. In a race you are typically well hydrated before the start of the race and it's not such a problem. However, don't replicate that in your regular training, maybe on a race rehersal day. Not on a regular basis... that's being dumb. This. Drink during your training. You will be more hydrated going into a race than you are a training session, and will be fine. When I train run a 6 mile run, I drink energy drink (Gatorade) every mile or so. In a 10k race, I'll grab a cup of water and throw it half on my face and half on the poor sap running next to me, with a few drops actually entering my mouth. If I feel like crap the day after a race, so be it. If I feel like crap the day after training, I get a subsequent crappy day of training. |
| 2014-12-30 10:30 AM in reply to: 0 |
| 3 | Subject: RE: Thirsty during long swims I know, old thread! What about hydration bag idea? Anyone here try it? I really like to have little water with me. Edited by Farzad 2014-12-30 10:33 AM |
| 2014-12-30 10:43 AM in reply to: Farzad |
Extreme Veteran 1648 | Subject: RE: Thirsty during long swims I've never tried this for swimming- I just drink from a water bottle when I'm thirsty- but often when I'm skiing I put a Platypus collapsible water bottle in my pocket. If I was going to stash a water bottle in my wetsuit that would be my choice. (Not sure if this is what you mean by hydration bag.) It's nice because when you're done with the water it doesn't take up much space. |
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