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2010-08-12 9:35 AM

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Subject: Ironman on Resume???
So a buddy of mine was having a discussion on if you should/would put your Ironman accomplishment on your resume?? Part of me says yes, because it would be a good example of your hard work, determination, and dedication, but part of me thinks its cheesy. What say you COJ?!?!?!?


2010-08-12 9:36 AM
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Depends on the job.
2010-08-12 9:39 AM
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DerekL - 2010-08-12 9:36 AM Depends on the job.
and the resume layout.  Including hobbies/activities isn't necessarily a bad idea...but depends on whether it seems appropriate for the job and/or flow of resume.  Who knows - it may be something that catches the eye of an interviewer!?!?
2010-08-12 9:41 AM
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At the bottom of my resume, I have a section labeled "Activities" and put it under there. 

That section gives an interviewer extra points for discussion beyond just professional experience.
2010-08-12 9:42 AM
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I wouldn't think twice about seeing it at the bottom as part of an "other interests" blurb.  For people in the know, it will signal the hard work and dedication; for people not in the know, it'll just be another item that adds some color to the resume (cooking, guitar, travel, ironman triathlon, etc.).   I realize that it short-sells it as a run of the mill hobby, but again, for people that get it, you don't really need to say more.

P.S.  Given that there are dozens of qualified applicants for almost every job out there right now, if you happen to get a triathlete or tri-curious person, it provides something distinguishing to talk about in an interview.



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2010-08-12 9:49 AM
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Insert the joke,, "how do you spot a triathlete"  --you don't have to they will tell you.

I might list under hobbies "triathlons" but even then it's doubtful.  

What would your opinion be of some one that listed, rock climbing, model airplane racing, bowling or any other hobby other people enjoy and excell at.   Do you also think that is ok?   if so then list it.   If it makes you pause for a moment then don't



2010-08-12 9:51 AM
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As others have indicated, at the bottom of my resume, after Education and before References, I have a section for "Organizations and Interests" where I list the non-profits I work with and positions I hold with them, then lists my interests. Which include running (15 marathons), cycling, and triathlon. Certainly of I had done an IM it would be on there.
2010-08-12 9:51 AM
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On mine, the last section is "Personal and Professional Development" and the last bullet point in there says
  • Personal interests include triathlon and endurance sports, vegetarian and gluten free cooking, sorority alumnae organization.

I wouldn't personally put "Ironman" on there as I'm not sure the average interviewer would even know what that was. I figure "triathlon and endurance sports" pretty much covers it. If they're interested, they'll pick up on it and ask.
 

2010-08-12 9:56 AM
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On one hand having Ironman on your resume could show you're hard work and determination.  On the other hand the new employer could read that as, "So you are putting in 20+ hours a week training, and I can expect you to leave for two hours at lunch to get in a work out."
2010-08-12 10:00 AM
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I list it on mine and it never fails that I will get asked about it. I think it shows hard work, commitment and dedication... Which are all good things. However if you're ever interviewed by someone in-the-know, they might have issues with your commitment to athletic endeavors and lack thereof to your job.
2010-08-12 10:03 AM
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MattAune - 2010-08-12 9:56 AMOn one hand having Ironman on your resume could show you're hard work and determination.  On the other hand the new employer could read that as, "So you are putting in 20+ hours a week training, and I can expect you to leave for two hours at lunch to get in a work out."
If that's what I intended and potential employer has a problem with it. I would much rather know about it on the front end, even to the degree of not getting the job.


2010-08-12 10:19 AM
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It isn't on mine, but that doesn't mean it doesn't come up during interviews when asked for examples of determination or adversity. 
2010-08-12 10:24 AM
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I also think that employers wish to hire folks who are healthy.  They will see you are when you met, but prior to the meeting it's a good way to signal that you're a certain sort of person.

I think I would probably go with something more vague, though, like the "triathlon and endurance sports" suggestion. 

I don't actually include anything about hobbies/interests on my resume.  I don't avoid it on purpose, but I usually fill up two pages with work history and professional items and don't want to make it any longer...  But I might consider this next time I update mine if I have a bit of room.

2010-08-12 10:52 AM
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It could also been seen as part of meeting one's "bucket list", and not necessarily evidence of long term commitment beyond that.   I think of college applications. When I was in HS, we were encouraged to be involved in as many things as possible, to look more "interesting".  But my daughters were advised that it is better to have just a few things that show you have commitment and a deeper level of interest.

I don't list my hobbies on my CV.  I have too many things I like to do, and while I indulge nearly all of them over the course of the year (sometimes more one than another in a given year), and they are rarely relevant to the things my job would entail.  I also think if an interviewer wants to know your hobbies/interests, they can just ask "How do you like to spend your free time", and spark the discussion that way. It also can tell you whether the employer considers free time to be a luxury you don't need, or recognizes the value in a well-rounded employee (in the "interests outside of work" sense, not the "sat in the cubicle so long you are now egg-shaped" sense).
2010-08-12 11:04 AM
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I would definitely include it under hobbies/activities...  I don't know a boss out there that wouldn't appreciate dedication, determination and persistence.  If you are on the bubble, it can only help.  Right?
2010-08-12 11:07 AM
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I have included marathon running as an interest at the end of my resume.  I would also include triathlons (but I haven't been looking for a job since I started doing tri's).  Depending on the interviewer, it may help.  It caught the interest of two of my past bosses - one was a masters swimmer but he was still impressed.



2010-08-12 11:11 AM
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I am a firm believer that you need to be able to discuss the relevance of ANYTHING you put on the resume.  About a year ago, I was hiring for a position.  A candidate had a hobbies section where he listed a number of volunteering duties, etc.  He also listed Marathoner.  I thought cool, this guy might be fun to work with. 

When he came in to interview, I asked him about it.  Asked if he was a consistent runner.  Well it turns out that he as done 3 marathons.  One 13 years ago when he got married, 8 years ago when they were on their anniversary and another 3 years ago on another anniversary.  I thought to myself, among other things, cool he and his wife enjoy running together.  When I asked a few more questions, he came clean about it all.  They don't train.  And they select races like Vegas and Disney where they can order drinks and enjoy the scenery.  Actually running factors in very little. 

While I won't judge his desire to participate in the races, I am not sure that I would put marathoner on my resume if that was the case. 

And for the record, it did make me question his work ethic. 



2010-08-12 11:17 AM
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I am looking forward to the day that I can add it to the bottom of my resume.

For what is worth, a buddy of mine got hired because he had "Brews Beer" at the bottom of his resume. You never know!!!
2010-08-12 11:34 AM
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The person reviewing it may or may not know or care about Ironman or triathlons but it just might catch someone's eye and it's a good hook - you're the triathlete guy, just like the post above was the beer-brewing guy.  So many of the qualifications they see over and over again so it's good to have a little extra.

2010-08-12 11:44 AM
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I say go for it.  As long as it's something you can talk about and feel comfortable discussing during the interview. Anything on a resume is fair game.

My all-time favorite list of "Activities" on a resume came from when I worked at the Wharton Undergraduate Career Services Office during grad school.  The young man wrote:

"Interests:  Fast cars, fast money, fast women."


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2010-08-12 12:13 PM
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Agreed - I will posit the following:

A: For the monster.com/careerbuilder kinds of positions, a resume should only be one page long (and the front of one page at that).

B: If you have room for "Hobbies/Activities", you haven't generated enough positive results at your prior positions.  Go find a cost to save or something.

Definitely feel free to bring it up in an interview though.  Better yet, go sleeveless so they can see your number from the weekend race.  Wait, nevermind, they could confuse it with a prisoner ID or something.

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2010-08-12 12:39 PM
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years ago I was on a selection panel and one of the guys had on his resume that he was a runner.  I thought it was pretty cool as I had that in common and at the end of the interview I asked himwhat his PR was for a 10K.  I felt a connection with him.  The other panel members not so much.  In fact, one of the members felt he showed arrogance.  I scored him well...others...not so much.  he didn't get hired.

I have listed run, bike, ski, etc as interests in the past but for probably the last 10-years or so I leave it off.  With the way they scan resumes anymore, I think it's just extra words.  If I get an interview and they want to know soime thing about me, that is something I may tell them if they look interested (fit).

2010-08-12 12:42 PM
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trid - 2010-08-12 12:23 PM


if all of your information does not fit on 1 page you have too much fluff



Disagree with this. My professional mentor encouraged me to make mine more than one page - or should I say, did not discourage letting it flow onto a 2nd page -  to show the accomplishments I'd done at each job. If I just listed my employers and not the accomplishments, what does that say? Why would they call me back?

A lack of details sends a clear message, in my opinion - a negative one. Yes there is such a thing as too much information/fluff - but it's a balance like everything.

 

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