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2013-03-26 11:11 AM
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mehaner - 2013-03-26 5:12 AM my dogs don't do anything, they are terrible slaves.

They lounge all day while we prepare their food and drinks and they can go to the bathroom wherever they please as we follow them around and clean it up.

WHO is the slave?



2013-03-26 11:33 AM
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Kido - 2013-03-26 12:11 PM

mehaner - 2013-03-26 5:12 AM my dogs don't do anything, they are terrible slaves.

They lounge all day while we prepare their food and drinks and they can go to the bathroom wherever they please as we follow them around and clean it up.

WHO is the slave?

If you have ever been to a country that does not generally consider dogs to be pets, you have seen dogs that are not "slaves". They are generally hungry and afraid of people, and not having much of a life. My dogs get to spend their days in a warm and dry environment, they have constant access to fresh food and water. They get to spend their days looking at the world go by, or sleep on couches and beds. They spend their nights in bed with their pack (fortunately we have a king size bed!). They have purpose when the humans are around, so they are not as apt to be bored. 

They are no more slaves than I am. They could easily, if they wanted, take off from the porch and leave forever if they were so inclined. When the one has run off, she is constantly looking back to play the chase game. The main way I get her back, in fact is to catch her eye and then run away from HER. She loves to run and knock me over. I am pretty sure she knows this is a pretty good deal - much as her wolfish ancestors figured out that hanging out by the cavemen was going to be a good deal for them. It has, in fact, helped dogs to be nearly as successful a species as humans, living on all continents that humans are on, and even getting to space ahead of us...

2013-03-26 11:48 AM
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AND back to the levity:

Jackemy1 - 2013-03-26 6:07 AM Until my dog starts cooking dinner, getting my drinks, walking me to the toilet, giving me massages, and paying for the roof over my head, I am pretty sure I am the slave in the relationship.

For sure!  I have always tried to figure out a way for the dogs to start contributing.  Nut much for hunting and the lack of opposable thumbs hinders them a bit.

If you could get paid for sneezing in your face, they would be millionaires.

2013-03-26 11:50 AM
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gearboy - 2013-03-26 12:33 PM
Kido - 2013-03-26 12:11 PM

mehaner - 2013-03-26 5:12 AM my dogs don't do anything, they are terrible slaves.

They lounge all day while we prepare their food and drinks and they can go to the bathroom wherever they please as we follow them around and clean it up.

WHO is the slave?

If you have ever been to a country that does not generally consider dogs to be pets, you have seen dogs that are not "slaves". They are generally hungry and afraid of people, and not having much of a life. My dogs get to spend their days in a warm and dry environment, they have constant access to fresh food and water. They get to spend their days looking at the world go by, or sleep on couches and beds. They spend their nights in bed with their pack (fortunately we have a king size bed!). They have purpose when the humans are around, so they are not as apt to be bored. 

They are no more slaves than I am. They could easily, if they wanted, take off from the porch and leave forever if they were so inclined. When the one has run off, she is constantly looking back to play the chase game. The main way I get her back, in fact is to catch her eye and then run away from HER. She loves to run and knock me over. I am pretty sure she knows this is a pretty good deal - much as her wolfish ancestors figured out that hanging out by the cavemen was going to be a good deal for them. It has, in fact, helped dogs to be nearly as successful a species as humans, living on all continents that humans are on, and even getting to space ahead of us...

in athens the random street dogs protected me and my classmates from gypsies.

but we didn't own them...so never mind.

2013-03-26 11:51 AM
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sounds  a little like a 603!
2013-03-26 12:02 PM
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mehaner - 2013-03-26 10:50 AM
gearboy - 2013-03-26 12:33 PM
Kido - 2013-03-26 12:11 PM

mehaner - 2013-03-26 5:12 AM my dogs don't do anything, they are terrible slaves.

They lounge all day while we prepare their food and drinks and they can go to the bathroom wherever they please as we follow them around and clean it up.

WHO is the slave?

If you have ever been to a country that does not generally consider dogs to be pets, you have seen dogs that are not "slaves". They are generally hungry and afraid of people, and not having much of a life. My dogs get to spend their days in a warm and dry environment, they have constant access to fresh food and water. They get to spend their days looking at the world go by, or sleep on couches and beds. They spend their nights in bed with their pack (fortunately we have a king size bed!). They have purpose when the humans are around, so they are not as apt to be bored. 

They are no more slaves than I am. They could easily, if they wanted, take off from the porch and leave forever if they were so inclined. When the one has run off, she is constantly looking back to play the chase game. The main way I get her back, in fact is to catch her eye and then run away from HER. She loves to run and knock me over. I am pretty sure she knows this is a pretty good deal - much as her wolfish ancestors figured out that hanging out by the cavemen was going to be a good deal for them. It has, in fact, helped dogs to be nearly as successful a species as humans, living on all continents that humans are on, and even getting to space ahead of us...

in athens the random street dogs protected me and my classmates from gypsies.

but we didn't own them...so never mind.

You have never owned a "random street dog" so your opinion is wrong and irrelevant. :P



2013-03-26 12:08 PM
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mad-dog - 2013-03-25 8:33 PM

Its really slavery. .No one should be able to "own" any living thing....it's BS


I told that to my boss once, right before he fired me.

2013-03-26 12:11 PM
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Goosedog - 2013-03-26 5:48 AM

I own a nice fern.

 



Those durn fern'ers, they're takin' our jobs! Why do you hate 'Murrica?
2013-03-26 12:39 PM
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Does this mean I can't root for the humans in Starship Troopers?
2013-03-26 1:00 PM
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TriJedi - 2013-03-26 1:39 PM Does this mean I can't root for the humans in Starship Troopers?

Depends on if it's the book or the movie.

2013-03-27 5:42 AM
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God created evolution.


2013-03-27 10:58 AM
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Alphamale - 2013-03-27 3:42 AM

God created evolution.


Who or what created God?
2013-03-27 10:59 AM
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Tripolar - 2013-03-27 11:58 AM
Alphamale - 2013-03-27 3:42 AM God created evolution.
Who or what created God?

It's Turtles all the way down!!

2013-03-27 11:16 AM
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trinnas - 2013-03-27 8:59 AM

Tripolar - 2013-03-27 11:58 AM
Alphamale - 2013-03-27 3:42 AM God created evolution.
Who or what created God?

It's Turtles all the way down!!




2013-03-27 11:28 AM
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When I opened this thread, I was sure it was going to be about politicians and gay marriage. 

BTW, dogs are pack animals and if you demand to be the alpha, they will stay with you out of loyalty and not slavery.  On the other hand, our pet bearded dragon is being held captive in an aquarium and his only loyalty is the heat lamp - best pet ever.

2013-03-27 12:07 PM
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My father is an Entomologist (bug guy). He raised me to understand that we're the inferior species on this planet. Bugs and their arthropod brothers live in the highest mountaintops, the bottom of the sea, mouths of volcanoes, our floors, our gardens, the males can sense the females miles away and dragonflies can breed while flying at 25 miles per hour. That's pretty awesome.

But even with that dominance, like Kate said, bacteria and microscopic organisms are not only in us, they're essential to us. Without them we couldn't digest food.

OP, don't feel so guilty for being dominant. We're actually at about the middle of the food chain. Next to wolves (dogs) and bears.


2013-03-27 12:41 PM
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GomesBolt - 2013-03-27 11:07 AM My father is an Entomologist (bug guy). He raised me to understand that we're the inferior species on this planet. Bugs and their arthropod brothers live in the highest mountaintops, the bottom of the sea, mouths of volcanoes, our floors, our gardens, the males can sense the females miles away and dragonflies can breed while flying at 25 miles per hour. That's pretty awesome.

But even with that dominance, like Kate said, bacteria and microscopic organisms are not only in us, they're essential to us. Without them we couldn't digest food.

OP, don't feel so guilty for being dominant. We're actually at about the middle of the food chain. Next to wolves (dogs) and bears.

Says the guy who has never been in a bear fight...

2013-03-27 12:46 PM
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Tripolar - 2013-03-27 11:58 AM
Alphamale - 2013-03-27 3:42 AM God created evolution.
Who or what created God?

I have no idea.

2013-03-27 1:09 PM
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mehaner - 2013-03-26 7:12 AM my dogs don't do anything, they are terrible slaves.

 

I believe *I* have actually been enslaved by a trio of cats.

They have no right to do that to me.

2013-03-27 1:12 PM
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Whizzzzz - 2013-03-27 1:09 PM

mehaner - 2013-03-26 7:12 AM my dogs don't do anything, they are terrible slaves.

 

I believe *I* have actually been enslaved by a trio of cats.

They have no right to do that to me.



You have noone to blame but yourself for that one.

Well, and Chris.
2013-03-27 1:29 PM
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Whizzzzz - 2013-03-27 2:09 PM
 

I believe *I* have actually been enslaved by a trio of cats.



So, you're whipped. Is that what you're saying?



2013-03-27 2:47 PM
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Hook'em - 2013-03-27 12:28 PM

When I opened this thread, I was sure it was going to be about politicians and gay marriage. 

BTW, dogs are pack animals and if you demand to be the alpha, they will stay with you out of loyalty and not slavery.  On the other hand, our pet bearded dragon is being held captive in an aquarium and his only loyalty is the heat lamp - best pet ever.

I opened my sliding door last night and told my dogs that they were free.  I knelt down an even pointed to freedom.  They both licked my face then sat down and looked at me so I went back to the sofa and popped in some Call of Duty.

2013-03-27 2:53 PM
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Aarondb4 - 2013-03-27 1:41 PM

GomesBolt - 2013-03-27 11:07 AM My father is an Entomologist (bug guy). He raised me to understand that we're the inferior species on this planet. Bugs and their arthropod brothers live in the highest mountaintops, the bottom of the sea, mouths of volcanoes, our floors, our gardens, the males can sense the females miles away and dragonflies can breed while flying at 25 miles per hour. That's pretty awesome.

But even with that dominance, like Kate said, bacteria and microscopic organisms are not only in us, they're essential to us. Without them we couldn't digest food.

OP, don't feel so guilty for being dominant. We're actually at about the middle of the food chain. Next to wolves (dogs) and bears.

Says the guy who has never been in a bear fight...

I heard he was in a fight bare.

2013-03-27 3:48 PM
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DanielG - 2013-03-27 1:29 PM
Whizzzzz - 2013-03-27 2:09 PM  

I believe *I* have actually been enslaved by a trio of cats.

So, you're whipped. Is that what you're saying?

Indeed. I believe myself to be P---Y whipped. In the most literal of definitions.

2013-03-27 3:52 PM
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Aarondb4 - 2013-03-27 1:41 PM

GomesBolt - 2013-03-27 11:07 AM My father is an Entomologist (bug guy). He raised me to understand that we're the inferior species on this planet. Bugs and their arthropod brothers live in the highest mountaintops, the bottom of the sea, mouths of volcanoes, our floors, our gardens, the males can sense the females miles away and dragonflies can breed while flying at 25 miles per hour. That's pretty awesome.

But even with that dominance, like Kate said, bacteria and microscopic organisms are not only in us, they're essential to us. Without them we couldn't digest food.

OP, don't feel so guilty for being dominant. We're actually at about the middle of the food chain. Next to wolves (dogs) and bears.

Says the guy who has never been in a bear fight...

Bear left!

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