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2006-11-08 12:31 AM

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Subject: "Sponsorship" opportunity

Looks more like a human billboard to me, but if you have the funds its a good deal on some tri gear.





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2006-11-08 12:42 AM
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I'm not seeing anything here.
2006-11-08 7:30 AM
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Subject: RE: "Sponsorship" opportunity
Who wouldn't want to be a member of the Red X Triathlon Team?
2006-11-08 7:32 AM
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Subject: RE: "Sponsorship" opportunity

Wow, that's a cool tri suit and that bike looks very aero!

 

2006-11-08 7:36 AM
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runningfoo - 2006-11-08 1:42 AM I'm not seeing anything here.

 

 

Same for me.

2006-11-08 7:49 AM
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Is it working now?  And for the record, the flyer showed up on my computer smart@sses .


2006-11-08 8:10 AM
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I don’t see sponsorship….I see paying them so you can use their stuff and wear their logo. 
Let me know when there are willing GIVE stuff to their team members and truly sponsor with products, clothing, entry fees, (a nice bike).
2006-11-08 8:11 AM
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tupuppy - 2006-11-08 8:10 AM I don’t see sponsorship….I see paying them so you can use their stuff and wear their logo.
Let me know when there are willing GIVE stuff to their team members and truly sponsor with products, clothing, entry fees, (a nice bike).

Hence the fact that its only a "sposorship" .

2006-11-08 8:12 AM
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Subject: RE: "Sponsorship" opportunity
I saw the team gu thing in Triathlete or RTN last month. You do get a bunch of stuff but its still a kinda crappy deal.
2006-11-08 8:14 AM
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I'll sponsor myself for that kinda money.
2006-11-08 8:14 AM
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bcotten534 - 2006-11-08 7:11 AM

tupuppy - 2006-11-08 8:10 AM I don’t see sponsorship….I see paying them so you can use their stuff and wear their logo.
Let me know when there are willing GIVE stuff to their team members and truly sponsor with products, clothing, entry fees, (a nice bike).

Hence the fact that its only a "sposorship" .

"Gotcha"



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2006-11-08 8:21 AM
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I can't see the top ad, but I don't understand what the gu sponsorship is. You pay them to wear their name during a race. What a great deal for them!!!
2006-11-08 8:58 AM
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Subject: RE: "Sponsorship" opportunity
Sort of hypocritical stuff going on here since there is a very large "team" that you buy into and basically get nothing out of that a ton of people on BT are part of ......

[cough]Team Javelin[/cough]

I DID send in my racing "resume" for Team Gu. Why?? Because if I can get a tri suit, bottles, clothing and energy supplement products that I already use (and pay full price for) at a severely reduced price, I'll take it! Hell, I'll probably spend close to $200 in getting Gu gels for the year, so why not get more stuff from them for the same price??? We'll see how that goes.

And I don't know how many of you have acutally set up and got sponsorship for a race team before (like I have), but getting truly free stuff as an amateur is not all that easy. Even though I was buddy buddy with many of the reps that came to the bike shop it was still begging and pleading to get some of the stuff that I did, and in the case of GT when I got them to sponsor us, we still had to buy the bike frames (at a less than wholesale cost price of course).

So before everyone starts poo-pooing Gu for extending their hand out, maybe you should think about what it really is about here ..... offering a highly reduced package of goodies to average Joe/Jane athletes and giving them a little taste of what sponsorship is about. If you already use their products, what do you have to lose??
2006-11-08 9:06 AM
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LOL.  Give me a break.  What it really is is them selling their stuff to you probably at a price still over their cost and getting free walking advertisements out of it.  Don't make this out to be some grand gesture on their part.  They're a business and do things that ultimately make them money.

Is that a bad thing for them?  Not at all.  Is it bad for you?  Probably not, if you're getting a big discount on things you'd buy otherwise.

Let's just not make it out to be any more than it is.

Daremo - 2006-11-08 8:58 AMSo before everyone starts poo-pooing Gu for extending their hand out, maybe you should think about what it really is about here .....

2006-11-08 9:45 AM
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So everyone running around with a Javelin tri suit doing free advertising for them and getting nothing out of it? Or everyone wearing any sort of logo'd clothing/helmet/bike/wheels, etc. that they purchased at full price? Free advertising for the companies .......

Yes, it is a way to get their name out there. But that is what sponsorship is about .... completely. It's about getting your name out there and supporting athletes to use your products, whether you give the product away for free or have a little up-charge. And Gu doesn't make clothing, water bottles, number belts, etc. so they have to farm that out which raises their costs.

As a promoter, it is great to get products like Gu and Gatorade Endurance so that the athlete's can have stuff in the event besides bottled water and bananas. Does that cost the athlete anything to get free stuff (well, yes in one would say in the entry fee, but that covers a lot more stuff and the promoter does not pay Gu or Gatorade for their product)?? No, not really.

Hell, I'd wear anyone's stuff that even partially sponsored me as long as I believed in their product. That's the difference here ....... when you get these kinds of deals offered and accept them, you usually do it because you like the product and don't mind be a walking bill-board.

On my road team I had full sponsorship (read - free stuff at the beginning of each season) from Bell Helmets, XTrnr energy Bars, and my bike shop and even Fuji bicycles one year (yes I worked out a deal to get four Cat. 4 and one Cat. 3 riders complete bikes with Ultegra STI). We had partial sponsorship from Giordano clothing one year, Aussie clothing the next, GT (bike frames at reduced cost and free clothing), and Fir rims. I paid out of my pocket for the costs of the partial sponsorship items and was happy to ride with their logos on my jerseys and shorts.

I would think that unless someone has actually BEEN sponsored on an endurance team and/or had to negotiate the deals that got the sponsorship that they would have very little actual basis to put forth any argument.

All sponsorship is about business. Getting more business and getting their product out there. You can't fault them for that, esepcially when they are putting it on the table for ALL levels of athletes, not just the elites .......
2006-11-08 9:58 AM
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I'm not faulting them for anything, and I said that in my post.  I just don't accept the notion that they're doing this out of the goodness of their hearts.  They're doing it for business purposes.

Again, there's nothing wrong with that.  It is what it is.

Daremo - 2006-11-08 9:45 AM  You can't fault them for that, esepcially when they are putting it on the table for ALL levels of athletes, not just the elites .......



2006-11-08 10:04 AM
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I don't see much of a difference between this and Javelin.  I think the Gu is actually pretty cool given that I buy a lot of Gu in a given year.  Plus, I think I like their jerseys a little better.
2006-11-08 10:12 AM
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I think it's funny that both Derek and Rick are saying the same thing yet seem to be arguing.

Also, that the OP posted it as a good deal on tri stuff - more like it's a purchasing opportunity, which is what it really is (along with most forms of sponsorship).

 

2006-11-08 10:20 AM
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Err, I'm not arguing with anybody.  Just differ slightly in how I view this offer.

It's easy to tell when I'm arguing.   

hangloose - 2006-11-08 10:12 AM

I think it's funny that both Derek and Rick are saying the same thing yet seem to be arguing.

2006-11-08 10:29 AM
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Daremo - 2006-11-08 8:58 AM
And I don't know how many of you have acutally set up and got sponsorship for a race team before (like I have), but getting truly free stuff as an amateur is not all that easy. Even though I was buddy buddy with many of the reps that came to the bike shop it was still begging and pleading to get some of the stuff that I did, and in the case of GT when I got them to sponsor us, we still had to buy the bike frames (at a less than wholesale cost price of course). So before everyone starts poo-pooing Gu for extending their hand out, maybe you should think about what it really is about here ..... offering a highly reduced package of goodies to average Joe/Jane athletes and giving them a little taste of what sponsorship is about. If you already use their products, what do you have to lose??

I hope you're not on your high horse about knowing how sponsorships work. I've seen several (not for me of course) where they actually give you FREE stuff.

Fleeb for example gets TYR gear and race entries with Ironhead...for free.

Now, my first thought with the GU 'sponsorship' was that its way for them to make more money and that is the only motivation. Ohh...you get water bottles (that cost them basically nothing) and gels. You pay for the outfit. I don't use any of their products, wouldn't pay a cent to be 'sponsored' by them and honestly, I'll probably chuckle when I see someone 'sponsored' by them out at a race. But that is just me.

Now I do happily wear "Team BT" gear because I love the site and what the owners/administrators do for the site. *cough* maybe they'll send me free BT stuff *cough*



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2006-11-08 10:41 AM
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Regardless, I bet their inbox is flooded with resumes of athletes who just want to be "sponsored" for the sake of being able to say that they are.

Honestly, If I used Gu products religiously I'd be happy to pitch their products and  get a discount.  But I'm an eGel guy myself.  Unfortunately, they turned down my sponsorship request last year



2006-11-08 10:49 AM
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Here is my $.02 on things since I am the captain of our AG team this year. We have an Elite team that has SOME financial assistance, but by and large they are a "discounted" type team also. It is extremely difficult to get sponsorship as an amateur athlete unless you have some Pro potential or high AG placement at major races. My view is that if it makes you feel special or (like Rick) gives you a discount on things you would normally buy anyway then go for it. By promoting your favorite product or service you may make the cost go down as they attract more customers.

 

If you are interested in our AG team go to www.thesportfactory.com and click on the teams banner. You must have a strong race resume' to be considered, limited spots available.

2006-11-08 10:53 AM
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Can someone explain generally how this works? What prevents someone from just buying the products as a "discount," then not wearing the jersey on race day? How would GU ever know you "advertised" for them by wearing the stuff? I don't get that part.
2006-11-08 10:56 AM
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DerekL - 2006-11-08 10:20 AM

Err, I'm not arguing with anybody.  Just differ slightly in how I view this offer.

It's easy to tell when I'm arguing.   

hangloose - 2006-11-08 10:12 AM

I think it's funny that both Derek and Rick are saying the same thing yet seem to be arguing.

Which is why I said "seem to be arguing".  

 

2006-11-08 11:05 AM
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auto208562 - 2006-11-08 10:53 AM Can someone explain generally how this works? What prevents someone from just buying the products as a "discount," then not wearing the jersey on race day? How would GU ever know you "advertised" for them by wearing the stuff? I don't get that part.

I think the idea is that the bulk of the package is made up of the clothing, and the money you pay for the whole deal would cost more than the nutrition offered.  That way you would have to wear the jersey, top, etc. to get true value from the package.

And to everyone who thinks its a stupid offer, if I get any more emails with these type of deals, should I post them?   

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