"Spoiler": No such thing Anymore... Really.

The spoiler alert is common courtesy and should be continued.  Many people are more than capable of shielding themselves of the "media cloud" and ENJOY a tape delayed broadcast while on their trainer in the evening.

blbriley, with respect to your opinion Sir, I disagree.

I maintain it is a dated, discourteous and antiquated convention in favor of the few at the inconvenience of the many.

That said, your perspective is respected and noted Sir.

Since there is a forum called the Peleton to discuss bike racing, I think there is a reasonable expectation that the results of today's race would not be discussed in Triathlon Talk.

There is a large number of people who are at work while the race is on live and prefer to watch it when they get home. These people avoid the Peleton forum. It is simple really.

I totally agree.  And I would suggest that one day is about the normally expected amount of time for keeping news relatively hidden behind the "Spoiler" tag.  

I agree. I am pretty good at avoiding things I don't want to hear and/or deal with. I can't do a thing about overhearing a conversation, but announcing "spoiler" in a post or thread title allows me to skip what I don't want to know.

I have found it IS possible to still avoid "spoilers" - and I do like the headsup on thread titles.  But is VERY hard.

I can't tell you how many times I just glance at my phone (I follow LA and Levi and other cyclists) to see a tweet "congrats to so and so for the win today!"...  So Lance and Levi have played spoiler on more than one occasion.

I have to tell people in advance I have NOT seen the current stage and not to talk about it.  NOT check my phone or TV's, turn my head or get out of earshot if I see it on passing TV's.  It's almost too much work.  And honestly, I fail to keep it out most of the time.  The TdF is easier since it's not on the forefront of most conversations.  But football scores, etc.  next to impossible.

Just about everybody on this forum (and every other one, apparently) understands what SPOILER means and uses it, in regards to cycling, important sporting events, suspenseful movies and shows, etc.

There is a guideline on this site specifically regarding the Tour de France. It's been the same guideline for the last five years. Do the mods need to formally include it in the general forum guidelines? Specifically sticky it on the top of every forum around this time of year?

Disagree.   While I agree that we read the 'net at our own risk, and if we find out the result that's on us.  But it is not unreasonable to ask people to put spoiler info inside a thread which might contain that information

Just because we have computers does not mean we don't continue to have brains, which we can use to exhibit common mannners to others

But reading your response, sounds like you don't reallt want to discuss the issue, but would rather call all disagreers wrong.  "discourteous"?   I really don't understand how it's discourteous to refrain from discussing race results when others have asked you not to

Do you tell everyone you see what the ending of the latest movie with a twist is?  Why not?  Because that's being decent.  Why is a race any different

Thank you, and I worked for a living, SSGT USMC, so no need for the "Sir".

The consensus seems to be the spoiler concern is still valid.

Acknowledged. (but phooey anyway...)

Have you been in TAN?

But apparently, that only applies to the men.

I agree with you with, with the exception of the Tour de France and the Olympics (when held in a country with a very different time zone.  If we got rid of spoiler alerts, we would basicailly be telling a lot of people to stay off of BT for 3 weeks.  I don't think that's a good idea.

But with other sporting events that people DVR and want to watch later because they have to go to a party, work, etc...I agree that there is no such thing as spoilers these days. 

It's just basic manners isn't it?  How much effort does it take to put *spoiler alert* in a title?

Doesn't do any harm and it can't be that hard to control yourself from blurting out information that others might be interested in?

Cavendish didn't win today's stage.

Oh nuts.

Sorry.

The guideline for spoilers in the peloton forum is 24 hours.  These are pretty reasonable guidelines. 

It pains me but I agree with Tom.  I think the whole spoiler thing is a load of crap.  Even more so for live events.  If I don't want to know anything about the TdF then I should stay away from major news sites, sports outlets and *gasp* forums that might have something to do cycling.  Those are places where I *expect* these topics to be discussed. 

For me the question is why does this expectation really only seem to matter regarding the TdF?   Tune in the minute the Super Bowl, BCS, Final Four, World Series, election, Supreme Court ruling and there is a thread " XXXX wins."  But for some reason people aren't up in arms about it in these situations. But post "WOW, Stage 5 crash" or "Cavendish is a beast" and people are beside themselves. 

For non-live events, I submit that there is a slightly different standard.  Since it doesn't occur in real time, a poster should refrain from spoiling something in the title and title only.  If I don't want to know how Spiderman ends, then I probably shouldn't participate in a thread on the topic. 

I disagree - here's one ...

Well... if you're going to post a spoiler, may as well post a big one! 

Actually... this is nothing new and it does apply to everything, not just TDF. I work rotating shifts and don't get to watch stuff like normal people do. All my co workers understand that at the beginning of shift if someone says they have not watched "it" yet... then don't blab about it.

Football games are the worst. One great thing about football is anything can happen, when I know the final score it's just over. I can't stand to watch the game knowing how it ends. So I avoid news, I don't go places that will ticker a score, and I don't talk to anyone.

TV shows are no different. We all watch at different time depending on our setup. Those that have watched can chat away, but I don't look till I'm caught up. I won't look at any thread for a movie if I have no seen it and most certainly appreciate the spoiler alert. No point in ruining it for those that have seen it and want to talk about it. And perhaps "spoiler alert" is "new" online... but come on.. it has been known since movies have been around not to give away the ending and you are a jerk if you do to those that have not seen it yet.

Obviously, about the only reasonable time one can expect to shield out all the info is a day. Something I really want to see I can usually get to in a day just maybe not real time. After that, all bets are off. Even at work... if you are coming in on a set of shifts and it was a couple of days ago... tough. They will talk about right in front of you so I better leave the room. So something that is real important I will work out, after that oh well, nice try. Spoiler alert have become pretty common and I use them and I appreciate those that follow the etiquette.