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  2008-07-28 12:29 PM |
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| 2008-07-28 12:33 PM in reply to: #1564570 |
 over a barrier | Subject: RE: I didn't watch any of the Tour Christain VDV finished 5th, an american from Lemont (Chicago), IL You missed a great story/race. |
| 2008-07-28 12:37 PM in reply to: #1564570 |
Champion 5529   Nashville, TN | Subject: RE: I didn't watch any of the Tour Spokes - 2008-07-28 1:29 PM With no Astana, its like keeping Bill Walsh out of the Superbowl. Levi or Contador SHOULD have been on podium on Paris. Perhaps I'm parochial, but as an American, with no remaining competitive Americans left in the race, I could care less (shrug). And finishing anything less than 3rd - a 'good placing' on GC is meaningless. No one remembers who placed 5th, or 12th, etc. People rarely remember 1st, 2nd or 3rd. I thought it was a good showing for the US. Team Columbia & Garmin had strong showings and Christian held his own out there. In the post-Lance era, that is nothing to shrug your shoulders at. |
| 2008-07-28 12:40 PM in reply to: #1564570 |
| Subject: RE: I didn't watch any of the Tour VDV was 5th Columbia, an American team (yeah, I know, has some foreign riders), won 5 of the 21 stages. I think for only having what, 4 Americans out of 170-80 riders? we did better than I though we would Oh, and you missed some great team tactics by CSC, especially on L'Alpe....... The old bait and switch and the aussie fell for it (or couldn't do anything about it) Edited by ChrisM 2008-07-28 12:49 PM |
| 2008-07-28 12:50 PM in reply to: #1564570 |
Master 1718  Loughborough, England | Subject: RE: I didn't watch any of the Tour I hadn't planned on watching it either due to the exclusion of Astana but it wasn't long before I was glued to the TV hour after hour each day. It's a real shame that Astana weren't there as it meant that some of the worlds best riders were not competing but it was still a great race. |
| 2008-07-28 12:57 PM in reply to: #1564617 |
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| 2008-07-28 1:00 PM in reply to: #1564570 |
| Champion 6931 Bellingham, Washington | Subject: RE: I didn't watch any of the Tour George Hincapie was only U.S. American on the Team Columbia team....and Team Garmin Chipolte had 3, VDV, Pate and Freshcorn. |
| 2008-07-28 1:01 PM in reply to: #1564700 |
| over a barrier | Subject: RE: I didn't watch any of the Tour BellinghamSpence - 2008-07-28 1:00 PM George Hincapie was only U.S. American on the Team Columbia team....and Team Garmin Chipolte had 3, VDV, Pate and Freshcorn. Will had an amazing ride, including almost 200K in a small break and was just nipped at the line.... |
| 2008-07-28 1:03 PM in reply to: #1564617 |
| over a barrier | Subject: RE: I didn't watch any of the Tour ChrisM - 2008-07-28 12:40 PM VDV was 5th Columbia, an American team (yeah, I know, has some foreign riders), won 5 of the 21 stages. I think for only having what, 4 Americans out of 170-80 riders? we did better than I though we would Oh, and you missed some great team tactics by CSC, especially on L'Alpe....... The old bait and switch and the aussie fell for it (or couldn't do anything about it) The Americans and American teams had a great showing including both picking up major sponsers leading into the race. |
| 2008-07-28 1:06 PM in reply to: #1564687 |
| over a barrier | Subject: RE: I didn't watch any of the Tour Spokes - 2008-07-28 12:57 PM ChrisM - 2008-07-28 10:40 AM VDV was 5th Columbia, an American team (yeah, I know, has some foreign riders), won 5 of the 21 stages. I think for only having what, 4 Americans out of 170-80 riders? we did better than I though we would Oh, and you missed some great team tactics by CSC, especially on L'Alpe....... The old bait and switch and the aussie fell for it (or couldn't do anything about it) I won't watch anything CSC - Riis was a cheater. Interesting position given you're cheering for Astana.....who's team was sent home last year and excluded this year because of doping practices and just sacked a team member for abnormal levels. |
| 2008-07-28 1:28 PM in reply to: #1564737 |
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| 2008-07-28 1:51 PM in reply to: #1564570 |
Champion 23360 Taser-World | Subject: RE: I didn't watch any of the Tour Spokes - 2008-07-28 1:29 PM I didn't watch any of the Tour.... I did. I watched it every day. And I enjoyed it*. (* When the showed the actual cycling, that is. I could have done without all the commercials and "background segments.")  Edited by D001 2008-07-28 1:52 PM |
| 2008-07-28 3:19 PM in reply to: #1564837 |
| Master 1718 Loughborough, England | Subject: RE: I didn't watch any of the Tour |
| 2008-07-28 3:24 PM in reply to: #1564570 |
| Champion 6931 Bellingham, Washington | Subject: RE: I didn't watch any of the Tour Sandy Casar was the highest French Rider at 14th. Not sure why they don't do better. Luxembourg is producing some excellent riders. Final Overall Standings |
| 2008-07-28 4:13 PM in reply to: #1564570 |
| Veteran 381 | Subject: RE: I didn't watch any of the Tour I just enjoy watching the mountain stages and TT. Watching athletes push their bodies the same way I do is satisfying. And the scenery was amazing as always. |
| 2008-07-28 5:28 PM in reply to: #1564570 |
| Champion 16151 Checkin' out the podium girls | Subject: RE: I didn't watch any of the Tour The logic fails. Astana isn't an "American" team. 2 of the 24 riders on their team page are "American". http://www.astana-cyclingteam.com/Rider_Overview.aspx Really, the ASO made this decision, rightfully so IMHO b/c they were embarrased by Vinokourov. He's gone, but the managment is still there. Hurt the sponsor; that's where the real punishment will come into play. It'll also encourage good sponsors to keep an eye on their investment. Columbia (Highroad), CSC and Chipotle have it right. I applaud Barloworld for immediatley terminating their sponsorship and actually, Saunier-Duval for pulling out the whole team. I kept watching Liquigas thinking that they no longer belonged there. The 8 others are allowed to continue? Tell that to Marion Jones' teammates... |
| 2008-07-28 6:34 PM in reply to: #1564570 |
| Champion 4902 Ottawa, Ontario | Subject: RE: I didn't watch any of the Tour Tough titsies for you bud, you missed a really good Tour de France! By the way, it's the Tour de France, not the American Tour, so why the concern???? There was only one Canadian rider, Ryder Hesjedal, and I watched it all the way through. |
| 2008-07-28 8:36 PM in reply to: #1564925 |
| Pro 4545 Orange Park Florida | Subject: RE: I didn't watch any of the Tour D001 - 2008-07-28 2:51 PM Spokes - 2008-07-28 1:29 PM I didn't watch any of the Tour.... I did. I watched it every day. And I enjoyed it*. (* When the showed the actual cycling, that is. I could have done without all the commercials and "background segments." Me too. I did get into the Bacardi commercial. I want to be at that party!! I thought this TdF was the most exciting in many years. It wasn't all about Lance. (who I admire) It also wasn't all about Bruneel (who is amazing). I do wish they would bring back the Team Time Trial. It does favor the stronger teams but so what? The whole race requires a strong team. |
| 2008-07-28 11:15 PM in reply to: #1564570 |
| Veteran 1108 Perth, Oz | Subject: RE: I didn't watch any of the Tour Spokes - 2008-07-29 1:29 AM With no Astana, its like keeping Bill Walsh out of the Superbowl. Levi or Contador SHOULD have been on podium on Paris. Perhaps I'm parochial, but as an American, with no remaining competitive Americans left in the race, I could care less (shrug). And finishing anything less than 3rd - a 'good placing' on GC is meaningless. No one remembers who placed 5th, or 12th, etc. oh thats unfortunate, you've just missed one of the most exciting tours in years. I think anyway. wierd attitude not watching it because of no Astana. its not even a US team. Many years of no big aussie performances but that doesn't stop me watching it. its a world sporting event. that would be like not watching some of the olympic events because there are no 'competetive americans' in that event, you're missing out on some great sporting moments. sometimes sports not just about who places on the podium, the stage wins and sprint finishes are remembered, the spectacular crashes and stupid mistakes by riders are remembered. Who doesn't remember Lance cross country riding.
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| 2008-07-28 11:29 PM in reply to: #1566048 |
| Master 1915 Hamilton, Victoria | Subject: RE: I didn't watch any of the Tour Mike 45 - 2008-07-29 12:36 PM I do wish they would bring back the Team Time Trial. It does favor the stronger teams but so what? The whole race requires a strong team. I've got to agree here. I long for the day the TTT is re-introduced. No rider can win without a strong team (just ask Cadel Evans) and the TTT is another way of 'mixing it up'. I also liked the fact that there were no time bonuses this year. That evened things out too. |
| 2008-07-29 5:01 AM in reply to: #1564570 |
| Expert 950 London, UK | Subject: RE: I didn't watch any of the Tour Well your loss really. It was a great race and the cleanest one for a long time. Just the fact that there were 6-10 guys on more or less the same level was testament to that. As for the whole 'I don't watch any CSC, Riis was a doper" thing. It's just plain silly. So Bruyneel was a BELGIAN cyclist in the 90s. Do you seriously believe that he was racing clean? Come on. At least Riis confessed, when it became obvious that him preaching anti doping and having one of the strictest internal anti doping programs seemed a little ridiculous without his confession.
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| 2008-07-29 9:27 AM in reply to: #1566306 |
| Champion 16151 Checkin' out the podium girls | Subject: RE: I didn't watch any of the Tour splerph - 2008-07-29 12:15 AM Spokes - 2008-07-29 1:29 AM With no Astana, its like keeping Bill Walsh out of the Superbowl. Levi or Contador SHOULD have been on podium on Paris. Perhaps I'm parochial, but as an American, with no remaining competitive Americans left in the race, I could care less (shrug). And finishing anything less than 3rd - a 'good placing' on GC is meaningless. No one remembers who placed 5th, or 12th, etc. oh thats unfortunate, you've just missed one of the most exciting tours in years. I think anyway. wierd attitude not watching it because of no Astana. its not even a US team. Many years of no big aussie performances but that doesn't stop me watching it. its a world sporting event. that would be like not watching some of the olympic events because there are no 'competetive americans' in that event, you're missing out on some great sporting moments. sometimes sports not just about who places on the podium, the stage wins and sprint finishes are remembered, the spectacular crashes and stupid mistakes by riders are remembered. Who doesn't remember Lance cross country riding.
The Barloworld over the cliff crash or the Gerolsteiner rider hitting the road furniture were damn scary. I still wonder if there's a Bianchi down the cliff somewhere; don't think that bike ever stopped. I can't imagine climbing out of there is carbon fiber soled bike shoes. Cavendish was extrordinary. Really, he made all the other sprinters look like beginners. |
| 2008-07-29 1:28 PM in reply to: #1564570 |
| Coach 10487 Boston, MA | Subject: RE: I didn't watch any of the Tour Spokes - 2008-07-28 12:29 PM With no Astana, its like keeping Bill Walsh out of the Superbowl. Levi or Contador SHOULD have been on podium on Paris. Perhaps I'm parochial, but as an American, with no remaining competitive Americans left in the race, I could care less (shrug). And finishing anything less than 3rd - a 'good placing' on GC is meaningless. No one remembers who placed 5th, or 12th, etc. a little bit late but LMAO, thanks for the funny post... |
| 2008-07-29 1:32 PM in reply to: #1564837 |
| Coach 10487 Boston, MA | Subject: RE: I didn't watch any of the Tour Spokes - 2008-07-28 1:28 PM As I've said before, if the French actually HAD a rider/riders capable of winning their own race, and those riders were on Astana, Astana would not have been banned. You can put down 20 euros on that, man. Problem is, there are NO French riders good enough to ride for Bruyneel. OMG, two in one thread, dude you are on fire! please, stop! you are making me ROTFLMAO! |
| 2008-07-29 2:01 PM in reply to: #1566795 |
| Champion 5117 Brandon, MS | Subject: RE: I didn't watch any of the Tour pitt83 - 2008-07-29 9:27 AM the Gerolsteiner rider hitting the road furniture Maybe it's the closet NASCAR fan in me talking, but seeing that bike basically explode was AWESOME (once I realized the guy lived through it). Cavendish, Vandevelde (for my American self), and CSC vs Evans made it one friggin exciting tour. |
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