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2016-01-05 2:12 PM
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Last night I told Kevin about morning workout discussion. I mentioned how Markus  said that 5:30 is too early for swimming and how Sean said, "I guess I shouldn't tell him that I ran 3.25 miles before masters practice this morning?"  I also said, "You clearly need to work on your level of commitment."  Kevin gave me a look that said, "You ought to be committed alright!" 

LOL! Yes we are a sick bunch. And Markus needs to know we're now stalking him. 2.5 hrs of gymnastics yesterday isn't the best use of time for a triathlete Markus!!

He must have an awesome flying mount.

Steve!  Now you made me snerk up my coffee!




LOLOLOLOLOL!!!! Got me too!!


2016-01-05 2:19 PM
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Last night I told Kevin about morning workout discussion. I mentioned how Markus  said that 5:30 is too early for swimming and how Sean said, "I guess I shouldn't tell him that I ran 3.25 miles before masters practice this morning?"  I also said, "You clearly need to work on your level of commitment."  Kevin gave me a look that said, "You ought to be committed alright!" 

LOL! Yes we are a sick bunch. And Markus needs to know we're now stalking him. 2.5 hrs of gymnastics yesterday isn't the best use of time for a triathlete Markus!!

He must have an awesome flying mount.

Steve!  Now you made me snerk up my coffee!



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2016-01-05 2:45 PM
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Last night I told Kevin about morning workout discussion. I mentioned how Markus  said that 5:30 is too early for swimming and how Sean said, "I guess I shouldn't tell him that I ran 3.25 miles before masters practice this morning?"  I also said, "You clearly need to work on your level of commitment."  Kevin gave me a look that said, "You ought to be committed alright!" 

LOL! Yes we are a sick bunch. And Markus needs to know we're now stalking him. 2.5 hrs of gymnastics yesterday isn't the best use of time for a triathlete Markus!!

He must have an awesome flying mount.

Steve!  Now you made me snerk up my coffee!

And me

HAHAHA!!  Thankfully mine was just water... which is now artfully sprayed all over my keyboard!  

2016-01-05 2:53 PM
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Last night I told Kevin about morning workout discussion. I mentioned how Markus  said that 5:30 is too early for swimming and how Sean said, "I guess I shouldn't tell him that I ran 3.25 miles before masters practice this morning?"  I also said, "You clearly need to work on your level of commitment."  Kevin gave me a look that said, "You ought to be committed alright!" 




LOL! Yes we are a sick bunch. And Markus needs to know we're now stalking him. 2.5 hrs of gymnastics yesterday isn't the best use of time for a triathlete Markus!!


Believe it or not one of the best sports to train your core. The good thing with doing gymnastics is that it's a hell lot more fun than doing planks, sit ups and pushups. I have to let the inner child out and play every once in a while.

Also I'm sure you get a giggle out of picturing a 45 year old fool doing flips.
2016-01-05 2:56 PM
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And since you are all stocking me here is a video of me doing giants. It's an older video, but all I have handy at the moment.

https://youtu.be/rfWlNY3D6TE

2016-01-05 3:30 PM
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Wow was there a lot of reading to catch up on! I also woke up to a few new Strava friends. I like this group already! I'm originally from Toronto and believe it or not I miss the winters a lot. There's something nostalgic about shoveling snow. Raking leaves all winter just doesn't do it for me. Are any of you on Zwift?

Yep I'm on Zwift pretty often.  I'll be on tomorrow morning actually.  I'm M.Steiner on there.



2016-01-05 3:49 PM
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Originally posted by johnthecat And since you are all stocking me here is a video of me doing giants. It's an older video, but all I have handy at the moment. https://youtu.be/rfWlNY3D6TE

Wow.  I am truly impressed.  These types of things get very, very difficult as one gets older and you still are knocking it out.

I used to do a lot of springboard diving when I was young and just about killed myself attempting some rather straightforward dives not too long ago.

2016-01-05 3:54 PM
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Hey guys.  I know I kind of faded out last year towards the end, but I'm slowly starting to get back into the endurance world.  I know you guys are closed, but I'll be lurking.

Wanted to throw my 2 cents into these two topics:

Originally posted by Lighttower I have a quick question. Can anyone suggest a good hardware for strava? I would like to record my swims too.

I went the opposite route of a multisport watch.  I have a dedicated device for each sport.  The Garmin swim does really well for swimming of course.  The Edge 500 gives me the fields I need (the 910/310's 4 fields aren't enough for what I like to track).  Finally the FR10 gives me just what I need for running: pace and time.  I kind of like having specific devices, because it helps me transition into the mindset for that workout (I'm a swimmer, I'm a runner, etc.).

I did the same. No swim watch, but dedicated bike & run devices. The multisport ones can be ok, but I liked the sport specific ones quite a bit better.


Ive been toying with this idea because my Timex is about to die. I don't really want anything more than time and distance. I have a Garmin Forrunner 10 for my run and a really basic bike computer that does speed and distance because the cadence señor won't fit on my new bike. I'm toying with going sands for swimming cause I tend to use the time clock at the pool and don't do much open water.

My question is what do you use when you race? Or do you just forget about it and wait for the results to come out to get your overall times? (I'm having trouble finding out if the F10 is water proof and I don't want to dunk it to find out).
2016-01-05 3:55 PM
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Originally posted by marysia83 Guys guys guys!!! First success of the year )))) Okey, little background for those who do not know my miserable swimming history: I completed three sprint triathlons last year in breaststroke, because I was completely not capable to learn freestyle. I had group lessons, individual lessons, watched all the videos, and read tons of articles on the Internet (to the point that when I was doing my breaststroke sprint I was looking at other folks and quietly pointing all their mistakes&hellip Whenever I felt my breathing was under control – the legs dragged me down. When I thought the form was getting better, I did not have the endurance to finish more than 75 yards… I was so frustrated I was considering Olympic distance in breaststroke. I was extremely sad that this stupid stroke stood against my triathlon (and possible IM) career. I read the Total Immersion book and started to follow some of the ideas from it. It was like a miracle. As if it was my first day swimming. I could not believe in the progress I was making, and mostly – how comfortable I felt without using extra tricks (I used to sing “Embrace me” by Sinatra in my head just to not focus on drowning&hellip. Last week I was able to do 3x100 in the damn front crawl!! And today I followed (almost exactly) the 0 to 700 plan and managed to do 3 x 100 yards of front crawl with only 16 breaths between each set, and I was not tired, nor exhausted, I did not feel even a tiny bit of anxiety, it was smooth and easy breazy!! I was so happy I was about to cry ))))) I will continue with 0 to 700 until I manage it without a blink, and then will follow 0 to 1650. You will not believe how excited I am. I am. I truly am. I wish all of you days like this ? (with a much better progress than my tiny little 3x100 of course)

What an exciting breakthrough, BIG CONGRATS!!!    Keep up the good work!

2016-01-05 3:58 PM
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Originally posted by johnthecat And since you are all stocking me here is a video of me doing giants. It's an older video, but all I have handy at the moment. https://youtu.be/rfWlNY3D6TE

Wow, impressive!  I couldn't help but think, "Now how is he going to stop?!"

2016-01-05 4:10 PM
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Guys guys guys!!! First success of the year ))))
Okey, little background for those who do not know my miserable swimming history: I completed three sprint triathlons last year in breaststroke, because I was completely not capable to learn freestyle. I had group lessons, individual lessons, watched all the videos, and read tons of articles on the Internet (to the point that when I was doing my breaststroke sprint I was looking at other folks and quietly pointing all their mistakes…) Whenever I felt my breathing was under control – the legs dragged me down. When I thought the form was getting better, I did not have the endurance to finish more than 75 yards… I was so frustrated I was considering Olympic distance in breaststroke. I was extremely sad that this stupid stroke stood against my triathlon (and possible IM) career.
I read the Total Immersion book and started to follow some of the ideas from it. It was like a miracle. As if it was my first day swimming. I could not believe in the progress I was making, and mostly – how comfortable I felt without using extra tricks (I used to sing “Embrace me” by Sinatra in my head just to not focus on drowning…). Last week I was able to do 3x100 in the damn front crawl!! And today I followed (almost exactly) the 0 to 700 plan and managed to do 3 x 100 yards of front crawl with only 16 breaths between each set, and I was not tired, nor exhausted, I did not feel even a tiny bit of anxiety, it was smooth and easy breazy!! I was so happy I was about to cry ))))) I will continue with 0 to 700 until I manage it without a blink, and then will follow 0 to 1650. You will not believe how excited I am. I am. I truly am. I wish all of you days like this ? (with a much better progress than my tiny little 3x100 of course)

YAY. Mary! You'll be faster than me soon.


2016-01-05 5:13 PM
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Hi, Manatees!!  I'm a little late to the game but I've been here before so I know I can sneak in again.  I see some new "faces" in here.  Welcome!  I'll have to go back and read bios, but can't today.  Bit of an intro about me:

NAME: Mary
STORY: Always loved running and riding my bike when I was a kid and was in track for a couple of years back in the day.  I always liked being in the water but didn't learn how to swim until I was an adult.  A fishy I am not!! Fast forward to 2006, when my DH started doing triathlons.  I thought it looked like fun and wanted to give it a try.  Life intervened and I didn't get to make a go of it until 2011.  I promptly injured myself and spent two and a half years in complete misery.  In 2014, I got my life back, joined the Manatees, and did 2 sprints.  This past year, I did another 2 sprints, then got a concussion in September, a week before my 3rd one.  I'm hooked on this tri thing for good, in large part because the people are so awesome!!  I can't participate too much in the Pod discussions right now because I'm still recovering from the concussion and can't use my computer much.  I also can't swim (makes me very nauseated) because of the concussion.  (Note: hitting your head on the sidewalk is a stupid idea.  Don't do it.)
FAMILY STATUS: Married to my wonderful sherpa/partner-in-crime.  We have 2 border collies, a cat, and a lot of spare hair thanks to the fur kids.
CURRENT TRAINING: Currently training for a half marathon in March.
THIS YEAR'S RACES/EVENTS: Half marathon in March in Zion National Park for sure.  I'd hoped to do a sprint and an Oly this year but may just stick to duathlons if I can't start swimming again soon.  Might as well work on strengthening my bike and run; there's always work to do there.   There's also a Half Iron in September that has a really challenging bike leg.  I just joined a local triathlon team and am hoping to put together a relay with a swimmer and a runner.  I initially thought I'd do the run, but now I'm thinking seriously about doing the ride.  Manatees who know me, can you believe I'm saying this?!  Me, who was so freaked out about a 12 mile hilly ride in the mountains?  Now I'm thinking about doing a 56 mile ride on similar terrain!!  I'll try not to whine or freak out too much but no guarantees.
GOALS/OBJECTIVES/DESIRES:  I plan to do the HIM in St. Croix in 2019 when I'm 50.  To get ready for that, I'll just keep challenging myself and proving that I'm capable of doing so much more than I give myself credit for.
WHAT MAKES YOU A GOOD MANATEE: I like to be silly and social and I want to support you as you work toward achieving the goals you set for yourselves.  Hopefully I can also contribute a little bit of helpful advice even though I haven't been doing tris for very long.

Looking forward to meeting the new folks.  To everybody who's been checking in on me this Fall and Winter, thank you again.  Your support and encouragement means so much to me!!!!!  (((Hugs)))

2016-01-05 7:20 PM
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Not sure The lack of training is true Yanti. At present I'm struggling to bend over to get runners on my feet cause of my back. Not so much sore anymore just locked up and no flexibility or much range of motion. I have another appointment with Jill the steamroller on Saturday so hopefully that gets it sorted.


Stacey,

What did you do to your back and what treatment are you getting?

Also this might not sound related, but how much caffeine do you consume on average if any?

2016-01-05 8:48 PM
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Originally posted by Jet Black
Originally posted by CRFTX2001 I have a few questions about Strava. 1.What is it? What does it do? 2.How do I set up an account? 3.How do I join the Manatees group? Thanks
It's like facebook for exercisers. Just go to strava.com and setup an account. Chris can add you to the manatees. Follow us other manatees and you'll see our workouts pop up when we do them. You can link strava to your garmin account so that the workouts are automatically loaded into strava from garmin.

Strava also has some safety/privacy features including having people request to follow you (so not everyone can see your stuff) and hiding some locations (home address/office/school) from maps.  The second feature just blurs it a little bit so people might now my exact street address or whatever.  These might make your parents/coach more comfortable.  I use them because I usually run alone.  I mean, it's right by the police station and I don't feel unsafe or anything but I don't want to invite problems!

For the location hiding, I've heard some will put in a bunch of nearby addresses and block out a much bigger area with the overlapping zones.

That's an interesting idea. I wanted to point it out in case Connor's parents/coach were uncomfortable.  The same holds true for the other Manatees, of course :-)




Another good piece of security advice that someone gave me about strava, when inputting your gear, don't put Cervelo P5 (hey everybody, I have a $10k bike!), put just the colors or something to where you can tell them apart (if you have more than one).


Thanks everybody!
I'll probably set up my account soon, but I've been pretty busy with school lately, so it may be a few days. The security settings will be a big help because my mom doesn't want me giving out too much of my information online.
2016-01-05 9:26 PM
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Originally posted by StaceyK
Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by msteiner

Hey guys.  I know I kind of faded out last year towards the end, but I'm slowly starting to get back into the endurance world.  I know you guys are closed, but I'll be lurking.

Wanted to throw my 2 cents into these two topics:

Originally posted by Lighttower I have a quick question. Can anyone suggest a good hardware for strava? I would like to record my swims too.

I went the opposite route of a multisport watch.  I have a dedicated device for each sport.  The Garmin swim does really well for swimming of course.  The Edge 500 gives me the fields I need (the 910/310's 4 fields aren't enough for what I like to track).  Finally the FR10 gives me just what I need for running: pace and time.  I kind of like having specific devices, because it helps me transition into the mindset for that workout (I'm a swimmer, I'm a runner, etc.).

I did the same. No swim watch, but dedicated bike & run devices. The multisport ones can be ok, but I liked the sport specific ones quite a bit better.

Ive been toying with this idea because my Timex is about to die. I don't really want anything more than time and distance. I have a Garmin Forrunner 10 for my run and a really basic bike computer that does speed and distance because the cadence señor won't fit on my new bike. I'm toying with going sands for swimming cause I tend to use the time clock at the pool and don't do much open water. My question is what do you use when you race? Or do you just forget about it and wait for the results to come out to get your overall times? (I'm having trouble finding out if the F10 is water proof and I don't want to dunk it to find out).

I use the same things for the race. I can let the bike computer just run as it'll only take data when it thinks it's moving, or start and stop just outside of transition. I put the run watch on coming out of T2. I usually build form a walk into a run the first couple steps anyway and can get the watch on in that time. Not a big deal. 

I've tried using a watch when swimming and absolutely hated it. Pulls way too much on that wrist, really throwing me off. Swim sets are always done by the pace clock. I have an Edge 810 for the bike computer. It's on the bike at all times. Easy to remember that as everything functions exactly the same both in training and racing. I like having the lighter, slimmer run watch too, a Forerunner 210. I had a 310XT before, but  I had to over tighten the strap or deal with some slapping. With the amount of running I was doing the slapping was actually starting to bruise.

As for waterproofing, did you see this page? Garmin is doing things a bit weird with that, but looks like it should be ok as the product page says 5 atm. I don't know if DC Rainmaker said any more on that, so might want to check there as well.

2016-01-05 9:30 PM
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Gracious, do you have everything ever????? BTW, I moved the bike gallery to a BT Album.

Oooooo! bike pictures, how do I add mine in there.

Post your bike pic(s) here.




okay here is the first one and my most recent bike purchase. I sold my Cervelo P1 to fund this one as I am doing mostly Xterras now. The bike is pretty much a hoot and after riding a Klein hard tail since 1997 the new bike seems to float over the rough stuff. Upgrades have included moving to Stans Crest wheels, tubeless tires and XT rotors which shaved a couple of lbs. off the bike. .






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2016-01-05 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by DaveL
Originally posted by cdban66

Gracious, do you have everything ever????? BTW, I moved the bike gallery to a BT Album.

Oooooo! bike pictures, how do I add mine in there.

Post your bike pic(s) here.

okay here is the first one and my most recent bike purchase. I sold my Cervelo P1 to fund this one as I am doing mostly Xterras now. The bike is pretty much a hoot and after riding a Klein hard tail since 1997 the new bike seems to float over the rough stuff. Upgrades have included moving to Stans Crest wheels, tubeless tires and XT rotors which shaved a couple of lbs. off the bike. .

Nice looking bike! Which one is it? Upgraded mine back in the fall to a Trek Fuel Ex 9.8. Some of these new things are absolutely amazing! The "floating over stuff" isn't really an exaggeration anymore. Getting close to cheating.

2016-01-05 10:27 PM
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Ok I have a question for the group. Due to work schedule, focus areas etc. I didn't spend a lot of time on my bike in 2015. If I look at my overall training times I spent roughly 10 total hours on the bike. As far as splitting my workouts across the disciplines it works out to about 30% swim, 10 % bike and 60 % running.

When I look at the results of my 3 Tri's in relation to my overall placement I tend to place a little higher on the swim portion, lower on the run and usually significantly higher on the bike portion. (And that was on a 10 year old Trek 1000 starter road bike)

For example on my last Tri I came in 15th in my age group. Swim was 11th, bike 8th (30 seconds behind person in 5th) and run 17th.

I know run is my slowest due to my illness, but I'm slowly picking up pace there.

I'm not quite understanding why I'm placing so much higher on the bike giving the minimal effort I put in last year. (And any other years for that matter)

So the question is:

Seems like bike speed comes a little easier to me than swim and run speed for some reason. Would it be beneficial to utilize that by spending more time on the bike or should I given the choice keep working on the running and swimming instead?

There's probably no real good do this or that answer, but I would like to see some feedback on what you guys think.
2016-01-05 11:11 PM
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Originally posted by johnthecat Ok I have a question for the group. Due to work schedule, focus areas etc. I didn't spend a lot of time on my bike in 2015. If I look at my overall training times I spent roughly 10 total hours on the bike. As far as splitting my workouts across the disciplines it works out to about 30% swim, 10 % bike and 60 % running. When I look at the results of my 3 Tri's in relation to my overall placement I tend to place a little higher on the swim portion, lower on the run and usually significantly higher on the bike portion. (And that was on a 10 year old Trek 1000 starter road bike) For example on my last Tri I came in 15th in my age group. Swim was 11th, bike 8th (30 seconds behind person in 5th) and run 17th. I know run is my slowest due to my illness, but I'm slowly picking up pace there. I'm not quite understanding why I'm placing so much higher on the bike giving the minimal effort I put in last year. (And any other years for that matter) So the question is: Seems like bike speed comes a little easier to me than swim and run speed for some reason. Would it be beneficial to utilize that by spending more time on the bike or should I given the choice keep working on the running and swimming instead? There's probably no real good do this or that answer, but I would like to see some feedback on what you guys think.

Hmmm... how much bike time you think you'd pick up in a race by upping your training? It seems you'd up your AG placement more by analyzing and tuning your run training FIRST, then adjusting your training loads. 

Another thought...are you shot after the bike leg, so that you have nothing left for the run?

I know I just added more questions, but hopefully they are useful.

2016-01-05 11:18 PM
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You guys are crazy  Almost 15 pages? I haven't even copy/pasted Chris's Manatee chart yet!

Bio tomorrow. Sorry.  

 

2016-01-05 11:22 PM
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Originally posted by StaceyK
Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by msteiner

Hey guys.  I know I kind of faded out last year towards the end, but I'm slowly starting to get back into the endurance world.  I know you guys are closed, but I'll be lurking.

Wanted to throw my 2 cents into these two topics:

Originally posted by Lighttower I have a quick question. Can anyone suggest a good hardware for strava? I would like to record my swims too.

I went the opposite route of a multisport watch.  I have a dedicated device for each sport.  The Garmin swim does really well for swimming of course.  The Edge 500 gives me the fields I need (the 910/310's 4 fields aren't enough for what I like to track).  Finally the FR10 gives me just what I need for running: pace and time.  I kind of like having specific devices, because it helps me transition into the mindset for that workout (I'm a swimmer, I'm a runner, etc.).

I did the same. No swim watch, but dedicated bike & run devices. The multisport ones can be ok, but I liked the sport specific ones quite a bit better.

Ive been toying with this idea because my Timex is about to die. I don't really want anything more than time and distance. I have a Garmin Forrunner 10 for my run and a really basic bike computer that does speed and distance because the cadence señor won't fit on my new bike. I'm toying with going sands for swimming cause I tend to use the time clock at the pool and don't do much open water. My question is what do you use when you race? Or do you just forget about it and wait for the results to come out to get your overall times? (I'm having trouble finding out if the F10 is water proof and I don't want to dunk it to find out).

Kingsley has a great Garmin 310 (and you know he's taken perfect care of it) with bike accoutrements he's looking to dump ...



2016-01-05 11:23 PM
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Originally posted by johnthecat Ok I have a question for the group. Due to work schedule, focus areas etc. I didn't spend a lot of time on my bike in 2015. If I look at my overall training times I spent roughly 10 total hours on the bike. As far as splitting my workouts across the disciplines it works out to about 30% swim, 10 % bike and 60 % running. When I look at the results of my 3 Tri's in relation to my overall placement I tend to place a little higher on the swim portion, lower on the run and usually significantly higher on the bike portion. (And that was on a 10 year old Trek 1000 starter road bike) For example on my last Tri I came in 15th in my age group. Swim was 11th, bike 8th (30 seconds behind person in 5th) and run 17th. I know run is my slowest due to my illness, but I'm slowly picking up pace there. I'm not quite understanding why I'm placing so much higher on the bike giving the minimal effort I put in last year. (And any other years for that matter) So the question is: Seems like bike speed comes a little easier to me than swim and run speed for some reason. Would it be beneficial to utilize that by spending more time on the bike or should I given the choice keep working on the running and swimming instead? There's probably no real good do this or that answer, but I would like to see some feedback on what you guys think.

First thing to check on is the information we would be working off of. I see 3 races listed in your history, and the one mentioned in the post doesn't seem to match with any of them?

Another is not knowing what the disease is or how it might affect you, running or other activity. Sorry if it was said, usually good with catching that, but been more skimming quickly with so many new people.

This could changes dramatically depending on answers to the first two things, but here's a little. The swim speeds I see in the races listed are ~2:30-4:00/100. This is very beginner territory and highly dependent on how much the individual gets it with swim skill. It's not uncommon for people to be faster than that without doing much either.

What comes to mind for now with the bike is that you may be overbiking. Your illness may be hiding this or giving possibly giving you a reason for it that may or may not be correct. The speeds I see for the races are mid to high teens. Nothing seems really unusual for someone who is an active guy. I've had a 2006 Trek 1000 by the way. Think it may have been a little faster than the road bike I traded "up" for.

2016-01-06 12:09 AM
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Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Closed
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The 4:00 swim speed in one of the races was a one off as I was racing 2 days after a stomach flu and could not catch my breath during the swim and it was also my first race OWS on top of that. I'm usually 2:20 to 2:30 pace as I try to take it easy on the swim. Biking I might have overdone it on my first tri as I had a lot of headwind but definitely tried to take it easy on the last two knowing my runs aren't the greatest. Run times last year definitely matched with my training times and were equally fast or faster than a standalone 5k I did so wouldn't think that I gave it all on the bike.

Fastest average so far for me on the bike was in the 19 Mph range and I finally broke the 30 minute 5k barrier in December. I started with about a 12 minute pace in March. None of these are stellar times. I've done one 10k in my late 20's with no prep at the time right under 48 minutes so I think with more training I should be able to get to a sub 24 5k or even better eventually. Bike, I have no gage on how fast I should be able to go and the same with swimming. I did two months of master swimming in my neighborhood pool last year until it got too cold (not a heated pool) so I have a pretty good idea where my weaknesses are in the swim.

As far as my sickness is concerned I had nerve damage in my legs and arms and nerve damage on pretty much my whole autonomous system. There's not a good way of telling how many of those nerves have regrown. (Or regrown correctly). The General consensus from the experts is that people with my condition even when considered recovered generally fatigue easier and muscle strength seems impacted, which seems to be due to the lack of nerve regrowth or incorrect regrowth.

As far as the autonomous system is concerned, things like sweating, heart rate, blood pressure etc. are tied to that and there could easily be an impact during the race if that's not working properly. Would it impact the run versus the bike or the other way around I don't know. I definitely still have issues there especially with my heart rate dropping to low or sometimes spiking for no reason. I've measured as low as 35 not too long ago sitting.

Hope that helps
2016-01-06 2:10 AM
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Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016
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Originally posted by StaceyK

Not sure The lack of training is true Yanti. At present I'm struggling to bend over to get runners on my feet cause of my back. Not so much sore anymore just locked up and no flexibility or much range of motion. I have another appointment with Jill the steamroller on Saturday so hopefully that gets it sorted.


Stacey,

What did you do to your back and what treatment are you getting?

Also this might not sound related, but how much caffeine do you consume on average if any?


About 10 years ago was standing on a chair and I fell off and landed on my back on the edge of a concrete step. In the last 2 years I have aggravated this injured area a number of times, mainly when lifting my 80+kg (180lb) dogs. The latest aggravation happen just after Christmas when I was out walking a couple of my dogs and fell and landed face first on the road. I ended up landing predominately on my left had side and I am still sporting some of the bruises. I'm sure it looked pretty impressive as i did a delightful 180 spin as I fell.

I see a Bowen therapist and she does a great job, I can now stand up straight, she fixed my shoulder that took a fair bit of the fall and I am relatively pain free, just very stiff.

I don't drink coffee (I know but they still let me be a Manatee), but I do drink a bit of English Breakfast tea and partake of a fair bit of chocolate.

I think that the biggest issues in relation to my back are that I need to lose about 10kg (22lbs) and my core muscles got up and left the building at around the same time as I initially hurt my back.
2016-01-06 4:40 AM
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what are the best core and strength exercises that I should be doing?
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