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2012-04-25 1:44 PM in reply to: #3968036 |
Champion 8766 Evergreen, Colorado | Subject: RE: Biggest Loser The only thing about "no voting" is that it puts the women at a disadvantage. Their body weight cycles monthly. I seriously suspect that a few of the bad weigh ins for the women were around their cycle. Your body holds onto a lot of water for close to a week. I realize that they can't exactly take that into account, but at least it doesn't eliminate someone because of something they have no control over. And everyone has a bad week at one point. Are you seriously saying that pretty much whoever has the one bad week gets kicked off every week? Also, instead of percent weight lost, I might like to see them move to body fat lost. They have all the tools to measure that at the ranch...ought to be pretty easy and not take THAT much more effort than scales. Oh, and I want to see decimal points! No more of this "whole pounds" crap. I bet people have lost weigh ins over decimal places.... |
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2012-04-25 2:43 PM in reply to: #4172667 |
Champion 10019 , Minnesota | Subject: RE: Biggest Loser I'd like them to eliminate opportunities for free passes. Don't set it up for people to lose very little weight, any given week, because they have immunity or some advantage. EVERY week they should be encouraged, by way of the rules, to lose as much as possible. It levels the playing field and, I feel, that characters like Conda would have to start working hard from day one. I also like the idea of no vote. While I agree that women fluctuate for various reasons, the voting is just as riddled with problems. Also, they have access to diuretics or whatever that will let the fluid go. Also, not every woman has this problem. I think that someone like Tara is a good example that it is possible to work hard and lose weight consistently. Edited by BikerGrrrl 2012-04-25 2:43 PM |
2012-04-26 6:25 AM in reply to: #4172602 |
Member 131 Connecticut | Subject: RE: Biggest Loser abqtj - 2012-04-25 2:26 PM No more voting someone off, make it a line on the chart. Or if they do vote, make in anonymous. I'm tired of the blubbering at the table "this person is so inspiring and I love this person...blah blah blah". Oh, and if anyone uses the phrase "this person" give them an automatic 1lb disadvantage. I hate that. I'd like to see more behind the scenes stuff, honestly. Heck, have a whole show of bloopers. We'd really get their personalities then. A blooper show would be great. I have a particular issue with the way people on ALL of these reality shows comment about how much they "love" this person, or how this person is like a mother or brother, or family member. Sometimes, they have known that person for a couple of weeks at most! Does that really put them in the same category as your actual familiy!?!?! If it does, I feel bad for your actual family situation. If my son or brother was on one of these shows and commented that some idiot he's known for a month is like a second father or like a brother, I would feel pretty lousy.
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2012-04-26 9:10 AM in reply to: #4173891 |
Champion 8766 Evergreen, Colorado | Subject: RE: Biggest Loser littycm - 2012-04-26 6:25 AM abqtj - 2012-04-25 2:26 PM No more voting someone off, make it a line on the chart. Or if they do vote, make in anonymous. I'm tired of the blubbering at the table "this person is so inspiring and I love this person...blah blah blah". Oh, and if anyone uses the phrase "this person" give them an automatic 1lb disadvantage. I hate that. I'd like to see more behind the scenes stuff, honestly. Heck, have a whole show of bloopers. We'd really get their personalities then. A blooper show would be great. I have a particular issue with the way people on ALL of these reality shows comment about how much they "love" this person, or how this person is like a mother or brother, or family member. Sometimes, they have known that person for a couple of weeks at most! Does that really put them in the same category as your actual familiy!?!?! If it does, I feel bad for your actual family situation. If my son or brother was on one of these shows and commented that some idiot he's known for a month is like a second father or like a brother, I would feel pretty lousy.
It's the shared experience that makes them feel closer. Some of these people actually ARE changing their lives...and when you go through an experience like that with people it makes you feel really close. Kinda like basic training in the military.... |
2012-04-26 10:05 AM in reply to: #3968036 |
376 | Subject: RE: Biggest Loser These are a few things that bug me: I hate the 2 hr shows, there is so much wasted time, 45min to weigh in...really? Does it have to take that long? No voting (or no explanations for their vote), all the blubbering and ego stroking isn't needed Don't bother with "teams" make them all compete individually from the get go. All those commercials into the show. They don't really show how they are working out, maybe folks at home would like to "do what they do". They should really come clean about how much they really do work out. I've heard that they work out up to 8-10hrs a day. |
2012-04-27 8:38 AM in reply to: #4174332 |
Member 131 Connecticut | Subject: RE: Biggest Loser jldicarlo - 2012-04-26 10:10 AM littycm - 2012-04-26 6:25 AM abqtj - 2012-04-25 2:26 PM No more voting someone off, make it a line on the chart. Or if they do vote, make in anonymous. I'm tired of the blubbering at the table "this person is so inspiring and I love this person...blah blah blah". Oh, and if anyone uses the phrase "this person" give them an automatic 1lb disadvantage. I hate that. I'd like to see more behind the scenes stuff, honestly. Heck, have a whole show of bloopers. We'd really get their personalities then. A blooper show would be great. I have a particular issue with the way people on ALL of these reality shows comment about how much they "love" this person, or how this person is like a mother or brother, or family member. Sometimes, they have known that person for a couple of weeks at most! Does that really put them in the same category as your actual familiy!?!?! If it does, I feel bad for your actual family situation. If my son or brother was on one of these shows and commented that some idiot he's known for a month is like a second father or like a brother, I would feel pretty lousy.
It's the shared experience that makes them feel closer. Some of these people actually ARE changing their lives...and when you go through an experience like that with people it makes you feel really close. Kinda like basic training in the military.... Real close is fine - I have not been in the military, so I take your word for it - but I would consider that somewhat different from being on a reality TV show. If my sibling/child/parent went on a show and after a few weeks described others as being "family" I wouldnt think much about my family's relationships. For those who last the entire season (months) and go through the whole thing together, I can certainly understand a significant bond, but I hear the "family" comments from people on these shows (BL, Survivor, etc.) that have only been together for a few weeks. That's what annoys me. But I'll get over it!
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2012-04-27 9:15 AM in reply to: #4176381 |
Champion 5312 Calgary | Subject: RE: Biggest Loser littycm - 2012-04-27 7:38 AM jldicarlo - 2012-04-26 10:10 AM littycm - 2012-04-26 6:25 AM abqtj - 2012-04-25 2:26 PM No more voting someone off, make it a line on the chart. Or if they do vote, make in anonymous. I'm tired of the blubbering at the table "this person is so inspiring and I love this person...blah blah blah". Oh, and if anyone uses the phrase "this person" give them an automatic 1lb disadvantage. I hate that. I'd like to see more behind the scenes stuff, honestly. Heck, have a whole show of bloopers. We'd really get their personalities then. A blooper show would be great. I have a particular issue with the way people on ALL of these reality shows comment about how much they "love" this person, or how this person is like a mother or brother, or family member. Sometimes, they have known that person for a couple of weeks at most! Does that really put them in the same category as your actual familiy!?!?! If it does, I feel bad for your actual family situation. If my son or brother was on one of these shows and commented that some idiot he's known for a month is like a second father or like a brother, I would feel pretty lousy.
It's the shared experience that makes them feel closer. Some of these people actually ARE changing their lives...and when you go through an experience like that with people it makes you feel really close. Kinda like basic training in the military.... Real close is fine - I have not been in the military, so I take your word for it - but I would consider that somewhat different from being on a reality TV show. If my sibling/child/parent went on a show and after a few weeks described others as being "family" I wouldnt think much about my family's relationships. For those who last the entire season (months) and go through the whole thing together, I can certainly understand a significant bond, but I hear the "family" comments from people on these shows (BL, Survivor, etc.) that have only been together for a few weeks. That's what annoys me. But I'll get over it!
Thinking about the "family" thing. These shows attract people looking for a certain type of experience. As much as these people talk about how hard this was for them to do and how they had to do it the fact is that almost all of them, more than anything, WANTED to be there. Some of them, that guy who left the show early, and even Buddy, I mean those 2 had a truly tough time being there, all the others, sorry, nope. They want to be there more than they want to be in their real life. Much more. Because of this many of them are primed to feel close and cuddly after 2 or 3 days. Even the quite loner guys are so heavily damaged that you give them even a small bit of the unconditional love coming from the trainers that they start wanting to soak it up from all directions. This show has gotten messed up though. I agree it needs to change. The weigh ins are too long. Showing the last chance workout is okay. I think it would be so much better if they took a quick 60 seconds and went through a mash up of each contestants week of workouts, they could show some clips and have something written scrolling on the bottom saying how many hours each day and what they did each day for the week and what they ate and when. And clarify what a friggin week is. And more competitions. Simpler ones. Like a weekly pushup challenge. Or a weekly mile run challenge. Or a weekly plank challenge. That would be awesome to see how these people progress. We see how they progress in terms of weight and looks but not in what they can do. I don't mind the in show commercials. I also think they could have on the website a little app that lets you choose Bob's outfit. I mean, that guy will wear anything. That would be fun. eta: oh yeah, and the voting, that just creates drama. The show has lost its purpose. There is plenty of drama in fat people getting skinny. Plenty. You can even talk to them about the deep seated psychological reasons they are fat. I also think some time at home during the show would be good. So send them home for a week every 2 weeks or 3 weeks. Perhaps don't kick anyone off for the first 6 weeks, then just kick off the 6 with the lowest weight loss percentage off, then start the game then maybe. Edited by BigDH 2012-04-27 9:24 AM |
2012-04-27 4:33 PM in reply to: #4172667 |
Champion 10471 Dallas, TX | Subject: RE: Biggest Loser jldicarlo - 2012-04-25 1:44 PM The only thing about "no voting" is that it puts the women at a disadvantage. Their body weight cycles monthly. I seriously suspect that a few of the bad weigh ins for the women were around their cycle. Your body holds onto a lot of water for close to a week. I realize that they can't exactly take that into account, but at least it doesn't eliminate someone because of something they have no control over. And everyone has a bad week at one point. Are you seriously saying that pretty much whoever has the one bad week gets kicked off every week? Also, instead of percent weight lost, I might like to see them move to body fat lost. They have all the tools to measure that at the ranch...ought to be pretty easy and not take THAT much more effort than scales. Oh, and I want to see decimal points! No more of this "whole pounds" crap. I bet people have lost weigh ins over decimal places.... Body fast lost would be so much better! Someone can lose very little weight but gain a lot of muscles... especially the men. Not really fair to do JUST weight loss. I know on Celebrity Fit Club they use to do points or something... for body fat lost and weight lost. Something like that. Decimal places are needed. Absolutely. Otherwise, Conda was annoying as ever. Acting like Jeremy HAD TO BE ON THE FINAL. Give me a break. Like others said, they could have possibly gotten more money if she had done the finale and him the at home prize. Two shots to win. With both of them on the finale, one of them will lose. Not smart. Then again, neither of them seemed to be the sharpest crayon in the box. |
2012-04-28 8:36 AM in reply to: #4177429 |
Extreme Veteran 799 | Subject: RE: Biggest Loser Body fast lost would be so much better! Someone can lose very little weight but gain a lot of muscles... especially the men. Not really fair to do JUST weight loss. I don't think the workouts, diets, and level of fitness these people are at are going to lead to much muscle gain. They are trying to inspire people to do something similar at home, and no one can afford to get their body fat checked regularly (except for the at home version which can be pretty wonky). |
2012-04-28 9:31 AM in reply to: #4177429 |
Elite 6387 | Subject: RE: Biggest Loser KSH - 2012-04-27 3:33 PM jldicarlo - 2012-04-25 1:44 PM Body fast lost would be so much better! Someone can lose very little weight but gain a lot of muscles... especially the men. Not really fair to do JUST weight loss. I know on Celebrity Fit Club they use to do points or something... for body fat lost and weight lost. Something like that. Decimal places are needed. Absolutely. Otherwise, Conda was annoying as ever. Acting like Jeremy HAD TO BE ON THE FINAL. Give me a break. Like others said, they could have possibly gotten more money if she had done the finale and him the at home prize. Two shots to win. With both of them on the finale, one of them will lose. Not smart. Then again, neither of them seemed to be the sharpest crayon in the box. The only thing about "no voting" is that it puts the women at a disadvantage. Their body weight cycles monthly. I seriously suspect that a few of the bad weigh ins for the women were around their cycle. Your body holds onto a lot of water for close to a week. I realize that they can't exactly take that into account, but at least it doesn't eliminate someone because of something they have no control over. And everyone has a bad week at one point. Are you seriously saying that pretty much whoever has the one bad week gets kicked off every week? Also, instead of percent weight lost, I might like to see them move to body fat lost. They have all the tools to measure that at the ranch...ought to be pretty easy and not take THAT much more effort than scales. Oh, and I want to see decimal points! No more of this "whole pounds" crap. I bet people have lost weigh ins over decimal places.... You are assuming 2nd and 3rd place does not get prize money. Most of these shows do and you get paid more the deeper you go. You just never here about it because it is always about the winner and the Grand Prize. Jeremy getting $100K for 2nd or 3rd is not far fetched at all. I think 2nd on Survivor gets $250K and 3rd is $150K. But they don't advertise it and finding details is a little sketchy. |
2012-04-29 5:12 PM in reply to: #4178172 |
Champion 8766 Evergreen, Colorado | Subject: RE: Biggest Loser powerman - 2012-04-28 9:31 AM KSH - 2012-04-27 3:33 PM jldicarlo - 2012-04-25 1:44 PM Body fast lost would be so much better! Someone can lose very little weight but gain a lot of muscles... especially the men. Not really fair to do JUST weight loss. I know on Celebrity Fit Club they use to do points or something... for body fat lost and weight lost. Something like that. Decimal places are needed. Absolutely. Otherwise, Conda was annoying as ever. Acting like Jeremy HAD TO BE ON THE FINAL. Give me a break. Like others said, they could have possibly gotten more money if she had done the finale and him the at home prize. Two shots to win. With both of them on the finale, one of them will lose. Not smart. Then again, neither of them seemed to be the sharpest crayon in the box. The only thing about "no voting" is that it puts the women at a disadvantage. Their body weight cycles monthly. I seriously suspect that a few of the bad weigh ins for the women were around their cycle. Your body holds onto a lot of water for close to a week. I realize that they can't exactly take that into account, but at least it doesn't eliminate someone because of something they have no control over. And everyone has a bad week at one point. Are you seriously saying that pretty much whoever has the one bad week gets kicked off every week? Also, instead of percent weight lost, I might like to see them move to body fat lost. They have all the tools to measure that at the ranch...ought to be pretty easy and not take THAT much more effort than scales. Oh, and I want to see decimal points! No more of this "whole pounds" crap. I bet people have lost weigh ins over decimal places.... You are assuming 2nd and 3rd place does not get prize money. Most of these shows do and you get paid more the deeper you go. You just never here about it because it is always about the winner and the Grand Prize. Jeremy getting $100K for 2nd or 3rd is not far fetched at all. I think 2nd on Survivor gets $250K and 3rd is $150K. But they don't advertise it and finding details is a little sketchy. Second on survivor only gets $100k. I dunno...I doubt second and third would get more than the advertised at home winner prize.... |
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2012-05-01 8:16 PM in reply to: #3968036 |
Champion 8766 Evergreen, Colorado | Subject: RE: Biggest Loser That may be the first time the person with the actual highest percentage of weight loss overall won the whole thing. Typically one of the at home people loses more than the winner. I wonder how much more of the chub on him is just loose skin that he needs to have removed. Because he did still look chunky (unlike Mike). Kim would have won the at home prize if she wasn't a finalist. No way she had ten more pounds to lose though. Kim looked the best. Cassandra has really nice legs. But what is UP with the ugly tat? And she still had a middle. Lauren looked cute. Most of them had more weight to lose. WTF, Conda...you look fatter than when you left the ranch. So did Meghan. Yay for less beard on Santa. Mike did look awesome. You can see the loose skin on his arms...I wonder what the rest of him looked like! Loose skin is usually more obvious. People either need to teach those women to walk in heels or have them wear different shoes. Seriously. I think that's it. No preview for next season???? |
2012-05-01 9:15 PM in reply to: #3968036 |
Elite 6387 | Subject: RE: Biggest Loser I was really hoping for Kim. I think she hit the weights too hard. I bet she has the lowest body fat percentage. I don't think she had 4 more pounds to loose. I suppose it's cool for Jeremy, but it is hard to get behind brother and sister. Mike really looked great. |
2012-05-02 7:51 AM in reply to: #3968036 |
Extreme Veteran 493 Greer, South Carolina | Subject: RE: Biggest Loser I watched it on dvr and fast forwarded through most of the show except for the final 3. It seemed like a lot of contestants still had a lot of weight to lose including Conda and Jeremy. But, I am guessing that a lot of Jeremy’s pooch was loose skin. I will say that Kim was maybe the best looking finalist ever. I think she was the perfect weight. She looked healthy and toned, but not dehydrated like many in the past. Out of the final 3, I think she is the only one that will keep the weight off. I am glad this one is over. It was the least inspiring season ever and unless they make big changes, it may be the last season I watch. |
2012-05-02 8:21 AM in reply to: #4185585 |
Champion 10019 , Minnesota | Subject: RE: Biggest Loser Kim looked amazing. I hope that she gets other good deals from this that add up to WAY more than 250k. It was kind of comical how tiny she was when standing, before the weigh-in, next to Conda and Jeremy. The nicest thing I can say about Jeremy is that at least he did the work and lost over 50%. Conda should be, always, ashamed of herself. Her behavior on the show and her apparent lack of self control (running her mouth, her food issues, etc). She probably should see a psychiatrist/life coach if she ever hopes to be successful in a real way. I bet both she and Jeremy will gain a bunch of weight back. Spanx are really amazing. As smooth and toned as everyone looked, from the side you could see they are not thin. And I hate the finale personally because I see these women weighing in less than I weigh yet they are still "thick." How does that work? I suppose the camera really does add 10 lbs. Yep, glad it's over. It was nice that it was only an hour. And finally, like all years, the hairstylist went a little overboard with the Aquanet. What sort of nest was on Ali's head? Yikes. They also need to stop allowing the super body hugging tight dresses unless the person looks like Kim (Ali included). Not flattering. Edited by BikerGrrrl 2012-05-02 8:22 AM |
2012-05-02 8:47 AM in reply to: #4185585 |
Champion 8766 Evergreen, Colorado | Subject: RE: Biggest Loser I will say that Kim was maybe the best looking finalist ever. I think she was the perfect weight. She looked healthy and toned, but not dehydrated like many in the past. Out of the final 3, I think she is the only one that will keep the weight off. I am glad this one is over. I would agree. Though I think Tara looked pretty darn good her season too. I am not positive Kim will keep the weight off though. She is VERY motivated by competition and I worry that without the competition she won't be able to stay as motivated. I don't think she'll ever be super fat again, but I wouldn't place bets on her staying as thin as she was last night. |
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2012-05-02 9:10 AM in reply to: #3968036 |
Expert 758 Port Colborne, Ontario | Subject: RE: Biggest Loser Jeremy definitely has more weight to lose. "Real" loose skin is hard to see with close on, like Mike. He definitely still has a nice spare tire there - probably another 30 lbs I'd say. Good for him though for losing almost 200 lbs. Conda was a disappointment as usual. Doesn't look like she lost much since the ranch and still has a good 40-50 lbs to lose. But more than likely she'll gain alot of it back. Kim looked great and I can't believe she actually got down to 134. I believe she's around 5'9" so that's impressive. Her last weigh in at the ranch she was 162 and she looked good at that weight also. |
2012-05-02 9:50 AM in reply to: #3968036 |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Biggest Loser I agree about the tight dresses and the high heels! I hope Jeremy and Conda can help the rest of the family because there is a LOT of obesity in that fam. |
2012-05-02 10:12 AM in reply to: #4185712 |
Expert 1111 Albuquerque, NM | Subject: RE: Biggest Loser jldicarlo - 2012-05-02 7:47 AM I am not positive Kim will keep the weight off though. She is VERY motivated by competition and I worry that without the competition she won't be able to stay as motivated. I don't think she'll ever be super fat again, but I wouldn't place bets on her staying as thin as she was last night. My guess is that Kim will get a lot of follow on gigs (more than Jeremy) because her transformation was incredible.. Hopefully, the spotlight will keep her in check. |
2012-05-02 10:23 AM in reply to: #4185712 |
Master 2725 Washington, DC Metro | Subject: RE: Biggest Loser jldicarlo - 2012-05-02 9:47 AM I will say that Kim was maybe the best looking finalist ever. I think she was the perfect weight. She looked healthy and toned, but not dehydrated like many in the past. Out of the final 3, I think she is the only one that will keep the weight off. I am glad this one is over. I would agree. Though I think Tara looked pretty darn good her season too. I am not positive Kim will keep the weight off though. She is VERY motivated by competition and I worry that without the competition she won't be able to stay as motivated. I don't think she'll ever be super fat again, but I wouldn't place bets on her staying as thin as she was last night. I agree both Kim and Tara looked fantastic... fit, healthy, strong. To the other point, I think that Kim will do as well as Tara... if you notice she (Tara) has packed on a few extra pounds since her finale. |
2012-05-02 10:24 AM in reply to: #4185908 |
Master 2725 Washington, DC Metro | Subject: RE: Biggest Loser rrrunner - 2012-05-02 10:50 AM I hope Jeremy and Conda can help the rest of the family because there is a LOT of obesity in that fam. I hate to say it, but I think the only thing Jeremy and Conda are going to help their family with is plowing through dinner and dessert. |
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2012-05-02 11:12 AM in reply to: #3968036 |
Champion 5312 Calgary | Subject: RE: Biggest Loser Gotta hand it to Jeremy. He fought his way into the final three and put up a big number at the end. Unhappy though. I felt like Kim DESERVED it more. Ha. That Spanx thing is so annoying, I agree. Did you see the aqua chick. omg, there she is walking along, looking okay from the front then she turns to the side and you can see this shelf forming over her torso, ugh. Someone must have cued her because she stopped turning to a side view. They best do something different next season, I don't think I will stick with it if it looks like it is going the same way. |
2012-05-02 11:36 AM in reply to: #3968036 |
Elite 3395 Raleigh | Subject: RE: Biggest Loser Well the best thing I can say about Jeremy is that he is not Conda. Who writes Ali's intros of the contestants? Oscar night writers? It was horrific! If the show really cared about helping people get fit, beyond providing "inspiration," then they would give more information about the workouts, how to balance them, how to recover, what to eat, when to eat, when your are just sore and when you are hurt, etc. The fact that they do not provide that inoformation just proves that they are really solely about the ratings and the $. |
2012-05-02 12:51 PM in reply to: #4185976 |
Champion 8766 Evergreen, Colorado | Subject: RE: Biggest Loser Sous - 2012-05-02 10:23 AM jldicarlo - 2012-05-02 9:47 AM I will say that Kim was maybe the best looking finalist ever. I think she was the perfect weight. She looked healthy and toned, but not dehydrated like many in the past. Out of the final 3, I think she is the only one that will keep the weight off. I am glad this one is over. I would agree. Though I think Tara looked pretty darn good her season too. I am not positive Kim will keep the weight off though. She is VERY motivated by competition and I worry that without the competition she won't be able to stay as motivated. I don't think she'll ever be super fat again, but I wouldn't place bets on her staying as thin as she was last night. I agree both Kim and Tara looked fantastic... fit, healthy, strong. To the other point, I think that Kim will do as well as Tara... if you notice she (Tara) has packed on a few extra pounds since her finale. Tara at least said she kind of did that deliberately. The weight she was at for the finale she said wasn't really manageable and that the weight she went back up to was a better weight for her. It wasn't slow creep like so many other contestants, it was a conscious decision to aim for a different target. She still doesn't look fat at all. I'm not sure I entirely GET that. I mean...IMHO any lower weight would feel more manageable to me--I'd be able to swim/bike/run better! Then again, I've never been down to a rock bottom weight anytime in the last 20 years...so...ask me when I get there how I feel! |
2012-05-02 2:20 PM in reply to: #4186177 |
Elite 6387 | Subject: RE: Biggest Loser DougRob - 2012-05-02 10:36 AM Well the best thing I can say about Jeremy is that he is not Conda. Who writes Ali's intros of the contestants? Oscar night writers? It was horrific! If the show really cared about helping people get fit, beyond providing "inspiration," then they would give more information about the workouts, how to balance them, how to recover, what to eat, when to eat, when your are just sore and when you are hurt, etc. The fact that they do not provide that inoformation just proves that they are really solely about the ratings and the $. Well that and the infomercials. Good points. |
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