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2021-02-09 5:20 AM
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I'm finding it tough to get motivated today. The morning temps here were -27C, about -16 or -17 in F. Colder further north too. The furnace is turned up but there's still cold corners and the treadmill is in the basement. Hard to shake the chill. (whine finished)

Wow, that's REALLY cold. It's hovering around 8F here in Illinois. Our house has those cold pockets as well


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I'm finding it tough to get motivated today. The morning temps here were -27C, about -16 or -17 in F. Colder further north too. The furnace is turned up but there's still cold corners and the treadmill is in the basement. Hard to shake the chill. (whine finished)

Wow, that's REALLY cold. It's hovering around 8F here in Illinois. Our house has those cold pockets as well

When it's so cold out it is harder to find motivation. We are closer to Illinois cold. My weight machine and trainer are in the basement. I usually turn on a space heater for an hour or so before I go down. That is just to make it tolerable.
2021-02-09 8:32 PM
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You guys! I got my first microchip implanted, I mean COVID vaccine tonight!
2021-02-09 8:52 PM
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You guys! I got my first microchip implanted, I mean COVID vaccine tonight!


Congratulations!. There was something extra in the last batch here. I know two attorneys who received it yesterday one admitted responsibility for not being prepared for court, which he never does and the other was prepared for the first time in years. If the national guard hadn't escorted me out of line, my staff said I would have come in yelling at them, because everyone we knew that received it acted opposite of their personality.
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I got Covid shot #1 today as well and so far I am no smarter and have no better sense of direction, so I don't think the microchip is working! So far no more sore than after a normal swim workout. I'm not quite sure who/what was administering the shots (we were variously told school nurses and a local medical group's staff) but they seemed to be set up for the pediatric crowd. They were giving us cartoon bandaids (I got My Little Pony) and trying to distract us with lollipop flavor choices while jabbing us with needles. Maybe as it was mostly elementary teachers today?! I have not looked at Dum Dum pops in probably 45 years; all I could recall is that I hate pineapple even more than the other flavors.

Overall it was not nearly as traumatic (at least so far) as the fact that my phone died a sudden death this morning (apparently the battery got corroded by moisture seeping in on some soggy runs recently) and had to be immediately replaced (since Mom is on call for a vaccine appt. using my mobile number) so I am now several hundred dollars poorer. That hurt worse than the shot!

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2021-02-10 2:04 AM
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  • Cadence: I'm currently just getting back into running and my turnover is about the same rate as yours, so far. A common recommendation is to aim for 180 steps per minute. That's also 90 steps with one foot on the same side or 90 rpm on a bicycle. The timing is easy to track if you count steps with one foot, say the right, for a few seconds. 15 steps with one foot in 10 seconds is 180 per minute. That's just a recommendation though, individual people vary.

    From my previous running, I worked on turnover speed with a few techniques. Focusing on bike turnover helps because it's moving your legs at the same rate and many bike computers will show your rpm. Try running on the spot too and see what that rate feels like. That takes running speed right out of the equation. There are a number of hillside pathways in my town with steps on them. If it's an option, try going down steps as fast as you can move your feet. Just be careful with that one though.


    Great - thanks! Very usable advice from both you and Ann-Marie on how to work the turnover speed up. My training watch can show both step pr. min and step length, so I'll start playing with that on my short run-days. I'll be back with an update


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    Subject: RE: Manatees Dooo Eeeet!!!
    Originally posted by Micawber

    I'm finding it tough to get motivated today. The morning temps here were -27C, about -16 or -17 in F. Colder further north too. The furnace is turned up but there's still cold corners and the treadmill is in the basement. Hard to shake the chill. (whine finished)


    Brrr, that is COLD! That would kill my motivation as well. Sending you warm karma and hope you have plenty of hot drinks and woolen layers to help you stay warm
    2021-02-10 6:42 AM
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    Originally posted by JBacarella
    Originally posted by fortissimoYou guys! I got my first microchip implanted, I mean COVID vaccine tonight!
    Congratulations!. There was something extra in the last batch here. I know two attorneys who received it yesterday one admitted responsibility for not being prepared for court, which he never does and the other was prepared for the first time in years. If the national guard hadn't escorted me out of line, my staff said I would have come in yelling at them, because everyone we knew that received it acted opposite of their personality.
    I spit my coffee reading this, thanks ??
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    Originally posted by Hot RunnerI got Covid shot #1 today as well and so far I am no smarter and have no better sense of direction, so I don't think the microchip is working! So far no more sore than after a normal swim workout. I'm not quite sure who/what was administering the shots (we were variously told school nurses and a local medical group's staff) but they seemed to be set up for the pediatric crowd. They were giving us cartoon bandaids (I got My Little Pony) and trying to distract us with lollipop flavor choices while jabbing us with needles. Maybe as it was mostly elementary teachers today?! I have not looked at Dum Dum pops in probably 45 years; all I could recall is that I hate pineapple even more than the other flavors. Overall it was not nearly as traumatic (at least so far) as the fact that my phone died a sudden death this morning (apparently the battery got corroded by moisture seeping in on some soggy runs recently) and had to be immediately replaced (since Mom is on call for a vaccine appt. using my mobile number) so I am now several hundred dollars poorer. That hurt worse than the shot!
    OUCH! Sorry for the wallet wound.
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    My training watch can show both step pr. min and step length, so I'll start playing with that on my short run-days. I'll be back with an update what watch do you have? I would love for mine to give me that info (once I can run again).

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    Originally posted by ceilidh .
    My training watch can show both step pr. min and step length, so I'll start playing with that on my short run-days. I'll be back with an update
    what watch do you have? I would love for mine to give me that info (once I can run again).

    I think all the garmin (and probably other brands) sport watches track cadence. Do you want a run specific watch or a triathlon watch? 



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    Originally posted by fortissimo You guys! I got my first microchip implanted, I mean COVID vaccine tonight!

    Haha! Zoe has been texting my dad (well, having me text on her behalf) and asking about his 5G coverage. My dad thinks this is hilarious.

    Congrats.

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    Originally posted by ceilidh .
    My training watch can show both step pr. min and step length, so I'll start playing with that on my short run-days. I'll be back with an update
    what watch do you have? I would love for mine to give me that info (once I can run again).

    I think all the garmin (and probably other brands) sport watches track cadence. Do you want a run specific watch or a triathlon watch? 

    When I first started to work on both run and bike cadence, I thought that it was crazy/impossible.  In both cases, it was a matter of weeks before If started to feel more natural. 

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    All you people getting the vaccine is great! I just got admitted to the Novavax  study. My first shot is tomorrow. Here's hoping for a reaction Or at least a reaction after the 2d shot.

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    Originally posted by amd723

    All you people getting the vaccine is great! I just got admitted to the Novavax  study. My first shot is tomorrow. Here's hoping for a reaction Or at least a reaction after the 2d shot.

    Nice! I have found being a study participant to be very interesting.

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    When I first started to work on both run and bike cadence, I thought that it was crazy/impossible.  In both cases, it was a matter of weeks before If started to feel more natural. 



    Yes, I was just reviewing some of my early logs and it took some work to get the turnover rate up. I used a lower gear on the bike to allow that rpm. Both my run speed and stride length went way down at first to maintain 180 steps per minute and a reasonable heart rate, sometimes barely more than running on the spot.

    An interesting side discovery is that running on the spot is no harder on a steep hill than it is on flat ground. The forward motion is much slower but, if you can run on the spot and drift forward, you can "run" up any hill. If you keep doing it, eventually the speed improves even going up steep hills.


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    All you people getting the vaccine is great! I just got admitted to the Novavax  study. My first shot is tomorrow. Here's hoping for a reaction Or at least a reaction after the 2d shot.



    Congratulations! If you feel sick, tired or sore, that means it's working. I mean this in the most sincerest way, I hope you don't feel well after the vaccine.
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    Good luck with getting a notable but not too bad reaction. All I can report from Moderna #1 after 31 hours is a sore arm. About like the flu shot in a normal year (some years have been worse), not nearly as bad as the tetanus jab. So far nothing systemic like fever, chills, headache or fatigue, which several colleagues did have. I managed to swim today but wasn't up to more than easy laps with fins, mainly because my stroke felt off to both sore arm on one side and crick in neck on other side due to weird sleeping position (combo of sore arm and clingy fat cat).
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    Originally posted by JBacarella
    Originally posted by amd723

    All you people getting the vaccine is great! I just got admitted to the Novavax  study. My first shot is tomorrow. Here's hoping for a reaction Or at least a reaction after the 2d shot.

    Congratulations! If you feel sick, tired or sore, that means it's working. I mean this in the most sincerest way, I hope you don't feel well after the vaccine.

    Lol, I appreciate your wishes of ill feeling!!

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    Originally posted by Hot Runner Good luck with getting a notable but not too bad reaction. All I can report from Moderna #1 after 31 hours is a sore arm. About like the flu shot in a normal year (some years have been worse), not nearly as bad as the tetanus jab. So far nothing systemic like fever, chills, headache or fatigue, which several colleagues did have. I managed to swim today but wasn't up to more than easy laps with fins, mainly because my stroke felt off to both sore arm on one side and crick in neck on other side due to weird sleeping position (combo of sore arm and clingy fat cat).

    Most of the people I know who had the Moderna vaccine had little reaction after the 1st shot -besides sore arm and some had a headache. Everyone felt badly to some degree after the 2d. Pfizer people i know have had no reaction after the 2d, but Pfizer uses a dose that is 1/3 of Moderna so you might expect fewer side effects. Conversely, it actually has a higher % of anaphylactic reactions (though both vaccines are very low re those reactions). 

    Janyne how was your reaction re Pfizer. I know you are still blinded.

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    Originally posted by Hot Runner Good luck with getting a notable but not too bad reaction. All I can report from Moderna #1 after 31 hours is a sore arm. About like the flu shot in a normal year (some years have been worse), not nearly as bad as the tetanus jab. So far nothing systemic like fever, chills, headache or fatigue, which several colleagues did have. I managed to swim today but wasn't up to more than easy laps with fins, mainly because my stroke felt off to both sore arm on one side and crick in neck on other side due to weird sleeping position (combo of sore arm and clingy fat cat).

    Most of the people I know who had the Moderna vaccine had little reaction after the 1st shot -besides sore arm and some had a headache. Everyone felt badly to some degree after the 2d. Pfizer people i know have had no reaction after the 2d, but Pfizer uses a dose that is 1/3 of Moderna so you might expect fewer side effects. Conversely, it actually has a higher % of anaphylactic reactions (though both vaccines are very low re those reactions). 

    Janyne how was your reaction re Pfizer. I know you are still blinded.

    Interesting.  My friend just had her 2nd Moderna shot on Monday and was hit pretty hard - 102*F fever, aches, fatigue.  Missed two days of work (one planned, one not).  My 2nd dose of Pfizer had me feeling nauseous, tired, big headache, body ache, and a few other sundry symptoms.  

    Yay to all the chip implant recipients! 



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    Well, I guess I will put it out there: I will be returning to the Y to swim in the next week or so (heaven help me) because in April I will be training/testing to be a lifeguard!!  So it's probably not a good idea to do the skills test not having swum since September.    My main motivation is to be able to procure a job at the best pool in the area, water and air quality-wise, to be allowed to swim there when not working.  My secondary motivation is to be able to earn a few extra bucks here and there. Not to mention it gets my CPR skills current again, always a good thing to have fresh in the mind.



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    Well, I guess I will put it out there: I will be returning to the Y to swim in the next week or so (heaven help me) because in April I will be training/testing to be a lifeguard!!  So it's probably not a good idea to do the skills test not having swum since September.    My main motivation is to be able to procure a job at the best pool in the area, water and air quality-wise, to be allowed to swim there when not working.  My secondary motivation is to be able to earn a few extra bucks here and there. Not to mention it gets my CPR skills current again, always a good thing to have fresh in the mind.

    Very cool! I was a lifeguard in college. By that I mean I took the course for easy credits and then worked at the collegePool for work study but only checking people in. Never even sat on the life guard stand!!
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    Originally posted by Hot Runner Good luck with getting a notable but not too bad reaction. All I can report from Moderna #1 after 31 hours is a sore arm. About like the flu shot in a normal year (some years have been worse), not nearly as bad as the tetanus jab. So far nothing systemic like fever, chills, headache or fatigue, which several colleagues did have. I managed to swim today but wasn't up to more than easy laps with fins, mainly because my stroke felt off to both sore arm on one side and crick in neck on other side due to weird sleeping position (combo of sore arm and clingy fat cat).

    Most of the people I know who had the Moderna vaccine had little reaction after the 1st shot -besides sore arm and some had a headache. Everyone felt badly to some degree after the 2d. Pfizer people i know have had no reaction after the 2d, but Pfizer uses a dose that is 1/3 of Moderna so you might expect fewer side effects. Conversely, it actually has a higher % of anaphylactic reactions (though both vaccines are very low re those reactions). 

    Janyne how was your reaction re Pfizer. I know you are still blinded.

    Sore arm after shot #1, lymph node involvement after shot #2.

    Sore arm = about as bad as the worst flu shot reaction that I have had.  In both cases, the shot was given in my left arm and I had not vote in the situation.  Maybe a little tired?  Hard to say. I didn't miss any workouts or anything.

    Lymph node = very sore arm pit (felt bruised when I put on deodorant) and progressed down my toward my left breast over several days.  I had the shot on a Monday morning, I called them on Thursday because it was getting weird. By Friday, it was like nothing ever happened.  Again, I didn't miss any workouts or anything. It was just weird.

    5G reception seems to be the same.

    Let us know how your poking and prodding went!

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    Originally posted by melbo55

    Well, I guess I will put it out there: I will be returning to the Y to swim in the next week or so (heaven help me) because in April I will be training/testing to be a lifeguard!!  So it's probably not a good idea to do the skills test not having swum since September.    My main motivation is to be able to procure a job at the best pool in the area, water and air quality-wise, to be allowed to swim there when not working.  My secondary motivation is to be able to earn a few extra bucks here and there. Not to mention it gets my CPR skills current again, always a good thing to have fresh in the mind.

    Nice! Way to multitask -- swimming AND a side hustle!

    P.S. Don't think that we didn't notice that nothing in May was mentioned



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