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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by popsracer Yesterday was a rough one. I fell on my bike...on my trainer. Was reaching for the remote control and went too far. The whole thing slid out from under me and I hit on my shoulder and hip. Wow, I haven't done that in a while. No harm but felt pretty silly. Then my son comes in "Daddy, there's water dripping through the ceiling in my room". Ugh, it has been raining heavily and the roof sprung a leak. So I get up on the roof which is three stories high wrestling a sheet of plywood in the dark with sheets of rain and strong gusting winds. It was a nightmare. Got it tacked down and the leak stopped. I trust today will be better. Oh man! I've come close to doing that but fortunately never actually fell. Glad you are ok. Our roof started leaking last winter, right over our oldest son's electronics Glad you weathered the storm and got yours fixed as well. Happy Monday I did fall. In class. In front of everyone. People picked on me for like a year. In my defense, I was new to the trainer and had only used it a handful of times. The person in the shop (it was a training session at a bike shop) helped me set it up. I totally blame Justin! I fell too. At home. Bike popped off the trainer and I went down. In my defense, I set it up myself and I am an idiot If I were you, I'd blame Justin! Damn you Justin!! |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by popsracer Yesterday was a rough one. I fell on my bike...on my trainer. Was reaching for the remote control and went too far. The whole thing slid out from under me and I hit on my shoulder and hip. Wow, I haven't done that in a while. No harm but felt pretty silly. Then my son comes in "Daddy, there's water dripping through the ceiling in my room". Ugh, it has been raining heavily and the roof sprung a leak. So I get up on the roof which is three stories high wrestling a sheet of plywood in the dark with sheets of rain and strong gusting winds. It was a nightmare. Got it tacked down and the leak stopped. I trust today will be better. Oh man! I've come close to doing that but fortunately never actually fell. Glad you are ok. Our roof started leaking last winter, right over our oldest son's electronics Glad you weathered the storm and got yours fixed as well. Happy Monday I did fall. In class. In front of everyone. People picked on me for like a year. In my defense, I was new to the trainer and had only used it a handful of times. The person in the shop (it was a training session at a bike shop) helped me set it up. I totally blame Justin! I fell too. At home. Bike popped off the trainer and I went down. In my defense, I set it up myself and I am an idiot If I were you, I'd blame Justin! Damn you Justin!! This Just--in: you are damned. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by laffinrock Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by popsracer Yesterday was a rough one. I fell on my bike...on my trainer. Was reaching for the remote control and went too far. The whole thing slid out from under me and I hit on my shoulder and hip. Wow, I haven't done that in a while. No harm but felt pretty silly. Then my son comes in "Daddy, there's water dripping through the ceiling in my room". Ugh, it has been raining heavily and the roof sprung a leak. So I get up on the roof which is three stories high wrestling a sheet of plywood in the dark with sheets of rain and strong gusting winds. It was a nightmare. Got it tacked down and the leak stopped. I trust today will be better. Oh man! I've come close to doing that but fortunately never actually fell. Glad you are ok. Our roof started leaking last winter, right over our oldest son's electronics Glad you weathered the storm and got yours fixed as well. Happy Monday I did fall. In class. In front of everyone. People picked on me for like a year. In my defense, I was new to the trainer and had only used it a handful of times. The person in the shop (it was a training session at a bike shop) helped me set it up. I totally blame Justin! I fell too. At home. Bike popped off the trainer and I went down. In my defense, I set it up myself and I am an idiot If I were you, I'd blame Justin! Damn you Justin!! This Just--in: you are damned. Ah, the resident word-player 'rides' again |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Richardsdrr Originally posted by laffinrock Originally posted by Asalzwed Like you guys mention, I mostly just run lots and let my body gravitate towards what is most economical. There are always things you can work on and be conscious of but straight up trying to change your gait is usually not a good idea. Okay so the consensus here is that I shouldn't have tried to do what I did. I did that based on my coach's recommendation. She, the head coach, and I are meeting up again on Saturday at the track to take another look. Should I plan to say (more diplomatically), "Let's cut the monkeying around with shortening my stride, just work on increasing cadence, and call it good"? Technically, they're the experts and I don't want to be coming across as saying that I don't think they know what they're doing. Now I'm also questioning if shortening my stride would actually qualify as changing my gait. I really don't know much about the technical aspects of running, I just did it. All I knew was that I kept tripping. In order to increase cadence and stop over-striding with my right leg, as suggested, without completely dying, I had to shorten my stride. Plus my right hip was collapsing some on the foot strike, which we were addressing with core strength training. Is that, in your estimation, changing my gait? http://triathletetraining.com/ Check out episode 46. It's Peter Pfitzinger discussing running form, drills, changing gait/or not, strides, hill reps and basically all the other stuff that's been posted by Ben, Matt, Salty and yourself. Well worth a listen. Also check episode 44, but skip through to about 57 minute mark, unless you want to hear about bare foot running for an hour. He talks a lot about cadence and drills etc. I may try the skipping drill. Basically, the take-away from it is---- run tall, head over pelvis, look at the horizon not the floor, chest proud, shoulders relaxed. This should be what you should be aiming to achieve before even thinking about cadence. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Just finished my first try at a Sufferfest session. They have 3-4 in the Strava Training Videos, so I thought I'd check out The Hunted (it's what I had time for). It's been awhile since I've done anything besides a steady ride on the trainer. Liked it overall. My brain was mad at seeing climbs, but pedaling in the big ring (looked wrong, effort right?) Will probably put some other music over their choices. lol Oh, and the Stupid Roller Tricks at the end made me think of the trainer accidents y'all are reporting...except he didn't fall. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Richardsdrr Originally posted by Richardsdrr Also check episode 44, but skip through to about 57 minute mark, unless you want to hear about bare foot running for an hour. He talks a lot about cadence and drills etc. I may try the skipping drill. Basically, the take-away from it is---- run tall, head over pelvis, look at the horizon not the floor, chest proud, shoulders relaxed. This should be what you should be aiming to achieve before even thinking about cadence. Originally posted by laffinrock http://triathletetraining.com/Check out episode 46. It's Peter Pfitzinger discussing running form, drills, changing gait/or not, strides, hill reps and basically all the other stuff that's been posted by Ben, Matt, Salty and yourself. Well worth a listen. Originally posted by Asalzwed Like you guys mention, I mostly just run lots and let my body gravitate towards what is most economical. There are always things you can work on and be conscious of but straight up trying to change your gait is usually not a good idea. Okay so the consensus here is that I shouldn't have tried to do what I did. I did that based on my coach's recommendation. She, the head coach, and I are meeting up again on Saturday at the track to take another look. Should I plan to say (more diplomatically), "Let's cut the monkeying around with shortening my stride, just work on increasing cadence, and call it good"? Technically, they're the experts and I don't want to be coming across as saying that I don't think they know what they're doing. Now I'm also questioning if shortening my stride would actually qualify as changing my gait. I really don't know much about the technical aspects of running, I just did it. All I knew was that I kept tripping. In order to increase cadence and stop over-striding with my right leg, as suggested, without completely dying, I had to shorten my stride. Plus my right hip was collapsing some on the foot strike, which we were addressing with core strength training. Is that, in your estimation, changing my gait? I found that my form improved from just running more like Salty and crew suggested. I would do drills before my track workout, but for the most part my form naturally got better over time. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by 4agoodlife Just finished my first try at a Sufferfest session. They have 3-4 in the Strava Training Videos, so I thought I'd check out The Hunted (it's what I had time for). It's been awhile since I've done anything besides a steady ride on the trainer. Liked it overall. My brain was mad at seeing climbs, but pedaling in the big ring (looked wrong, effort right?) Will probably put some other music over their choices. lol Oh, and the Stupid Roller Tricks at the end made me think of the trainer accidents y'all are reporting...except he didn't fall. *Insert evil laugh* |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Damn you Manatees I am now going to be late for work again - oh well. I just want to say THANK THE LORD for - refrigeration; - Air conditioning; and - cold water Been a bit hot here for the last few days, yesterday especially 113 and still 105 at 5pm. |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by StaceyK Damn you Manatees I am now going to be late for work again - oh well. I just want to say THANK THE LORD for - refrigeration; - Air conditioning; and - cold water Been a bit hot here for the last few days, yesterday especially 113 and still 105 at 5pm. Blame Justin. He's responsible for both the heat and you being late. Clearly. |
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![]() | ![]() Originally posted by StaceyK Damn you Manatees I am now going to be late for work again - oh well. I just want to say THANK THE LORD for - refrigeration; - Air conditioning; and - cold water Been a bit hot here for the last few days, yesterday especially 113 and still 105 at 5pm. It's going to be 1 degree F here on wednesday! |
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![]() | ![]() Had some fun at the YMCA pool again today. Did 150 meters and was worn out! definitely was enjoyable though considering the cold weather we are having. Doesn't seem like much to me but I need to really take it slow at the beginning, I tend to injure myself fairly easy early on. Edited by Havok 2015-01-05 6:14 PM |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Havok Originally posted by StaceyK Damn you Manatees I am now going to be late for work again - oh well. I just want to say THANK THE LORD for - refrigeration; - Air conditioning; and - cold water Been a bit hot here for the last few days, yesterday especially 113 and still 105 at 5pm. It's going to be 1 degree F here on wednesday! It's about that right now here. Thursday is looking to start at like -13F or so. |
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Melon Presser ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() HAPPYSTONED You've gotten great advice and resources from everyone. With all due respect (you know what that means in British, right? |
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![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Richardsdrr Originally posted by Techdiver Originally posted by 4agoodlife Originally posted by laffinrock Originally posted by Techdiver Originally posted by laffinrock You can call me Spanky if you want. My most common nickname. or hell call me what you please I won't be offended. Thank you for the welcome. Will see how this goes after a year off. I am just reading up on 18 pages and trying to catch up. I am sure I am willing to get into whatever challenge is out there. This is why I am here. Challenges and accountability, without it I spend time playing with kids and eating icecream and making other bad choices...ha. I will hopefully get caught up and find out what the challenge is by end of day. We have no heat at work and I am wearing my sweater, coat and toque still. 54 degrees F in my office. BRRRRR. Welcome, Chris. Since there are now 2 Chrises in addition to the 2 Matts and 2 Michaels, guess we better come up with a way to tell you two apart. How about Chris Can (you) and Chris Ban (cdban66)? Or we can just call you Spanky. Let me know if you want in on the challenge (see rules on p. 1). It started on 1/1 but since you just joined us, I think we could squeeze you in. Don't want you to miss out on ALL the Manatee mayhem. Call you what I want, just don't call you late for dinner? No heat--yikes!! At least you'll stay awake. Hope it comes back on soon. Maybe shivering will count for his 10min of activity for the day? First thanks Monica for the hello. Long time no chat. Does this count as my 10 mins today. I plan on going to spin class later. I am sure I can commit to 10 mins a day every day. This gives me a reason to do some yoga even on down days. I was about to shave my Movember beard off but it has remained. Let me know if link works. I had to do some transferring of phone/work computer etc. Any photo site is blocked at work. So I won't be able to tell [IMG]http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/techdiver74/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150105_110316.jpg[/IMG] Guess that didn't work. I am going to have to review how to post to this again. I read that as "going to shave your Mother" ![]() my mom might need a shave. But I am not going there at all. For now my moustache is thicker than hers... hahaha. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by Havok Originally posted by StaceyK Damn you Manatees I am now going to be late for work again - oh well. I just want to say THANK THE LORD for - refrigeration; - Air conditioning; and - cold water Been a bit hot here for the last few days, yesterday especially 113 and still 105 at 5pm. It's going to be 1 degree F here on wednesday! It's about that right now here. Thursday is looking to start at like -13F or so. Ohh, what I'd do for a nice 65-70 degree calm sunny spring day. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by popsracer Hmmmm...I'll just zip it and let you look up my weather for this week. :DOriginally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by Havok Originally posted by StaceyK Damn you Manatees I am now going to be late for work again - oh well. I just want to say THANK THE LORD for - refrigeration; - Air conditioning; and - cold water Been a bit hot here for the last few days, yesterday especially 113 and still 105 at 5pm. It's going to be 1 degree F here on wednesday! It's about that right now here. Thursday is looking to start at like -13F or so. Ohh, what I'd do for a nice 65-70 degree calm sunny spring day. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Thought I'd do a short hill run up and over the "hill" closest to my house. It happens to be a bridge over a walking path tunnel. It also happens to not register any elevation...at all. Zero. Zilch. Nada. Even after four passes. Hehe |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by 4agoodlife Originally posted by popsracer Hmmmm...I'll just zip it and let you look up my weather for this week. :D Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by Havok Originally posted by StaceyK Damn you Manatees I am now going to be late for work again - oh well. I just want to say THANK THE LORD for - refrigeration; - Air conditioning; and - cold water Been a bit hot here for the last few days, yesterday especially 113 and still 105 at 5pm. It's going to be 1 degree F here on wednesday! It's about that right now here. Thursday is looking to start at like -13F or so. Ohh, what I'd do for a nice 65-70 degree calm sunny spring day. It's about time to become a snowbird. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by popsracer Originally posted by 4agoodlife Originally posted by popsracer Hmmmm...I'll just zip it and let you look up my weather for this week. :D Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by Havok Originally posted by StaceyK Damn you Manatees I am now going to be late for work again - oh well. I just want to say THANK THE LORD for - refrigeration; - Air conditioning; and - cold water Been a bit hot here for the last few days, yesterday especially 113 and still 105 at 5pm. It's going to be 1 degree F here on wednesday! It's about that right now here. Thursday is looking to start at like -13F or so. Ohh, what I'd do for a nice 65-70 degree calm sunny spring day. It's about time to become a snowbird. As a life-long snow-hound recently turned snow-bird, I can recommend it! Never thought I'd say it, but my blood has thinned. Matt |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() When we were in KS, we stopped by a LRS and found they were having a few sales. J got a pair of Newtons and a pair of Pearl Izumis ($60...total!). I found a pair of Pearl Izumi road M3s for $30. I've never tried them and figured it was a good price even if I didn't end up running in them. After putting in a few short runs, they're pretty comfy! And bonus...they're neon
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Do your easy runs gets faster over time or do you try to stick with a certain pace over long periods of time? I know a lot of fast runners run most of their miles at what would seem really slow compared to what they race or do quality workouts at. As the fast get faster do easy runs stay the same and just get easier with more emphasis on improving quality workout paces or do all types of workouts get progressively faster? I hope that question makes sense. I ask because my easy runs have progressively gotten faster over the last three years or so. I'm beginning to wonder if I am running them too fast compared to my race times. I try to follow Jack Daniels pace charts but my VDOT varies widely (42-47) depending on the race distance I use to calculate my paces and I feel I need to back off. What is your rule of thumb for easy pace runs? |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by popsracer if its between walking and dying for me then its an easy pace Do your easy runs gets faster over time or do you try to stick with a certain pace over long periods of time? I know a lot of fast runners run most of their miles at what would seem really slow compared to what they race or do quality workouts at. As the fast get faster do easy runs stay the same and just get easier with more emphasis on improving quality workout paces or do all types of workouts get progressively faster? I hope that question makes sense. I ask because my easy runs have progressively gotten faster over the last three years or so. I'm beginning to wonder if I am running them too fast compared to my race times. I try to follow Jack Daniels pace charts but my VDOT varies widely (42-47) depending on the race distance I use to calculate my paces and I feel I need to back off. What is your rule of thumb for easy pace runs? ![]() (but I'm just new to running) so dumb question but what is VDOT and what's the purpose of measuring it? |
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Melon Presser ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by StaceyK Originally posted by popsracer if its between walking and dying for me then its an easy pace Do your easy runs gets faster over time or do you try to stick with a certain pace over long periods of time? I know a lot of fast runners run most of their miles at what would seem really slow compared to what they race or do quality workouts at. As the fast get faster do easy runs stay the same and just get easier with more emphasis on improving quality workout paces or do all types of workouts get progressively faster? I hope that question makes sense. I ask because my easy runs have progressively gotten faster over the last three years or so. I'm beginning to wonder if I am running them too fast compared to my race times. I try to follow Jack Daniels pace charts but my VDOT varies widely (42-47) depending on the race distance I use to calculate my paces and I feel I need to back off. What is your rule of thumb for easy pace runs? ![]() Here's a good explanation from the man (Jack Daniels) himself: http://www.runnersworld.com/workouts/threshold-training-finding-your-vdot Basically, it's a gauge of your effort levels during a race--then extrapolates to other race distances but most importantly to give you a range of training paces so you can train more effectively. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by IndoIronYanti Originally posted by StaceyK Originally posted by popsracer if its between walking and dying for me then its an easy pace Do your easy runs gets faster over time or do you try to stick with a certain pace over long periods of time? I know a lot of fast runners run most of their miles at what would seem really slow compared to what they race or do quality workouts at. As the fast get faster do easy runs stay the same and just get easier with more emphasis on improving quality workout paces or do all types of workouts get progressively faster? I hope that question makes sense. I ask because my easy runs have progressively gotten faster over the last three years or so. I'm beginning to wonder if I am running them too fast compared to my race times. I try to follow Jack Daniels pace charts but my VDOT varies widely (42-47) depending on the race distance I use to calculate my paces and I feel I need to back off. What is your rule of thumb for easy pace runs? ![]() Here's a good explanation from the man (Jack Daniels) himself: http://www.runnersworld.com/workouts/threshold-training-finding-your-vdot Basically, it's a gauge of your effort levels during a race--then extrapolates to other race distances but most importantly to give you a range of training paces so you can train more effectively. I'm pretty biased, but when I was struggling with getting faster on the run I was told to get the book "Jack Daniels' Running Formula". You can find it online for next to nothing, but it's a great system that transformed my running. I love the concept of "if you think your training paces are too slow, then prove it in a race!". Following the 5-15k program in that same book helped me get my first sub 40 10k. Edited by msteiner 2015-01-06 8:21 AM |
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