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 2016-05-10 10:06 AM in reply to: amd723 |
 812   Katy, Texas |  Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deuxOriginally posted by amd723 . Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by StaceyK Thanks for the info on the lights guys. I went to the hardware store last night and got a cheap head torch which will do the job for now. It worked ok and having it meant that I could go outside and run in the dark this morning which was great because I did not want to do 6km on the treadmill. Great! I am so glad that you were able to run outside today! If you are not trail running in the dark, you don't needs a zillion lumens. The reason I like P-Tec is that I had sweat through the first light and it was replaced, no questions asked. The next version of the light has a lock on it that seals the battery case a bit better, reducing the chance that my salt filled sweat kills it. Good to see that you got a light, and you'll get to adjust to running with it. The heat and humidity may make it more cost affective down the line to get something of a higher quality. I wouldn't cross that bridge until I came to it, were I you. Predawn is the best time to run, in my estimation. I hope you enjoy it, Stacey. Yeah, I occasionally run predawn too What's pre-dawn?  |
| 2016-05-10 10:07 AM in reply to: rrrunner |
1731  Denver, Colorado | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by rrrunner This email came out from one of my co-workers. I found it amusing... This is a quick email to remind you of last year’s collective success in running the Duke City Marathon Relay and to measure your interest in running again. Spring is finally here, and it is perfect training weather. This year’s Duke City Marathon will take place on October 16, 2016 and I figured we could elevate our challenge just one notch. Beat your personal goal by signing up for a 5k or 10k? Perhaps there will be those adventurous enough to run the half marathon? Perhaps TJ will run a marathon after the marathon?
X lol too funny And it's on my daughter's birthday  |
| 2016-05-10 10:09 AM in reply to: rrrunner |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by rrrunner This email came out from one of my co-workers. I found it amusing... This is a quick email to remind you of last year’s collective success in running the Duke City Marathon Relay and to measure your interest in running again. Spring is finally here, and it is perfect training weather. This year’s Duke City Marathon will take place on October 16, 2016 and I figured we could elevate our challenge just one notch. Beat your personal goal by signing up for a 5k or 10k? Perhaps there will be those adventurous enough to run the half marathon? Perhaps TJ will run a marathon after the marathon?
X You might want to reply with "I might swim a couple miles and ride my bike 112 miles, then run a marathon" |
| 2016-05-10 10:11 AM in reply to: rrrunner |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by rrrunner This email came out from one of my co-workers. I found it amusing... This is a quick email to remind you of last year’s collective success in running the Duke City Marathon Relay and to measure your interest in running again. Spring is finally here, and it is perfect training weather. This year’s Duke City Marathon will take place on October 16, 2016 and I figured we could elevate our challenge just one notch. Beat your personal goal by signing up for a 5k or 10k? Perhaps there will be those adventurous enough to run the half marathon? Perhaps TJ will run a marathon after the marathon?
X That's great!! As are your reasons for wanting to tackle the 50 miler and IM! |
| 2016-05-10 10:17 AM in reply to: amd723 |
Master 2429 Falls Church, Virginia | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux There is so much scheming and planning going on in the Pod the last couple days. Love it!! |
| 2016-05-10 10:46 AM in reply to: cdban66 |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by rrrunner This email came out from one of my co-workers. I found it amusing... This is a quick email to remind you of last year’s collective success in running the Duke City Marathon Relay and to measure your interest in running again. Spring is finally here, and it is perfect training weather. This year’s Duke City Marathon will take place on October 16, 2016 and I figured we could elevate our challenge just one notch. Beat your personal goal by signing up for a 5k or 10k? Perhaps there will be those adventurous enough to run the half marathon? Perhaps TJ will run a marathon after the marathon?
X You might want to reply with "I might swim a couple miles and ride my bike 112 miles, then run a marathon" Ha, when we do our fitness test they ask me if I need to swim and bike before the run. |
| 2016-05-10 12:20 PM in reply to: rrrunner |
| Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by rrrunner So I've pretty much settled on a 50 miler. It's called Colossal Vail 50/50. It's near Tucson in November. So I asked a marathon runner friend about it because he lives in Tucson. He didn't know anyone who'd run it but warned me that runs in the Colossal area can be hilly. I told him I ain't skeert of hills I also asked Coach Scott about helping me train for a 50 miler and a metric century ride simultaneously. He said he's good with it. I'll have to give him a call and talk specifics, and price Wow! You're really embracing this endurance stuff Well there are three main factors going in to this. 1) I've got a great running base I might as well use it to go longer. Both the 50 mile and the IM may be a one and done. I don't have to decide that right now but it's a possibility because of the time commitment 2) I don't get hung up on age but that 50 bday is a big one and I've thought for some time I might do an IM for my 50th 3) I want to do this while I still can. I don't anticipate not being able to do this, but one never knows. DH is fully supportive and right now my life is such that I can commit the time. All very good reasons, IMO! Maybe you could do a 100K or 100 miler for your 50th birthday instead, since running seems to be your passion these days, or find an extra special running event. In response to your inquiry, my sister is not racing and I'm not sure if she'd come along to the race or hang out by herself for the day, hard to say. I hope she'll come to the race, but I understand that it can be a long day for someone who is not necessarily into racing. At one time I think Mary offered to pick me and the bike up on race morning, not sure if the offer still stands. I don't know about official Sherpa duties but I always appreciate having friends around to cheer and hang out with. And, as your twin, I do embrace post-race chocolate milk. |
. Actually, it's supposed to be about 4,000 ft of gain which is pretty easy for a trail 50.
Really, that is great!| 2016-05-10 12:27 PM in reply to: melbo55 |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by melbo55 Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by rrrunner So I've pretty much settled on a 50 miler. It's called Colossal Vail 50/50. It's near Tucson in November. So I asked a marathon runner friend about it because he lives in Tucson. He didn't know anyone who'd run it but warned me that runs in the Colossal area can be hilly. I told him I ain't skeert of hills I also asked Coach Scott about helping me train for a 50 miler and a metric century ride simultaneously. He said he's good with it. I'll have to give him a call and talk specifics, and price Wow! You're really embracing this endurance stuff Well there are three main factors going in to this. 1) I've got a great running base I might as well use it to go longer. Both the 50 mile and the IM may be a one and done. I don't have to decide that right now but it's a possibility because of the time commitment 2) I don't get hung up on age but that 50 bday is a big one and I've thought for some time I might do an IM for my 50th 3) I want to do this while I still can. I don't anticipate not being able to do this, but one never knows. DH is fully supportive and right now my life is such that I can commit the time. All very good reasons, IMO! Maybe you could do a 100K or 100 miler for your 50th birthday instead, since running seems to be your passion these days, or find an extra special running event. In response to your inquiry, my sister is not racing and I'm not sure if she'd come along to the race or hang out by herself for the day, hard to say. I hope she'll come to the race, but I understand that it can be a long day for someone who is not necessarily into racing. At one time I think Mary offered to pick me and the bike up on race morning, not sure if the offer still stands. I don't know about official Sherpa duties but I always appreciate having friends around to cheer and hang out with. And, as your twin, I do embrace post-race chocolate milk. I thought about a 100 mile run but decided that I liked the idea of 140.6 better Are you staying in Boulder or the Denver area? Between Mary and I we'll get it all figured out I suppose. The Boulder/Longmont/Ft. Collins area has some great craft breweries. Just sayin' |
| 2016-05-10 2:21 PM in reply to: rrrunner |
| Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by melbo55 All very good reasons, IMO! Maybe you could do a 100K or 100 miler for your 50th birthday instead, since running seems to be your passion these days, or find an extra special running event. In response to your inquiry, my sister is not racing and I'm not sure if she'd come along to the race or hang out by herself for the day, hard to say. I hope she'll come to the race, but I understand that it can be a long day for someone who is not necessarily into racing. At one time I think Mary offered to pick me and the bike up on race morning, not sure if the offer still stands. I don't know about official Sherpa duties but I always appreciate having friends around to cheer and hang out with. And, as your twin, I do embrace post-race chocolate milk. I thought about a 100 mile run but decided that I liked the idea of 140.6 better Are you staying in Boulder or the Denver area? Between Mary and I we'll get it all figured out I suppose. The Boulder/Longmont/Ft. Collins area has some great craft breweries. Just sayin' True, 140.6 would probably be easier on the body. I'm staying in Westminster, purposely to be between the two cities with the intention to be closer to both. At least it makes sense in my mind, LOL. Craft breweries?! Yuck. |
| 2016-05-10 3:59 PM in reply to: melbo55 |
Member 2098 Simsbury, Connecticut | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by melbo55 Originally posted by rrrunner Okay, I am over a week recovered (physically and mentally) from my 50k. The "what's next" thoughts have been haunting/lingering/tormenting since before the race. My overall, yet vague, decision is to train for a 50 mile run race this fall while also training for my metric century ride in October. Then I would, at some point, transition to IM training for a race sometime in 2017. Choosing a 50 miler has been difficult, mostly because of schedule conflicts. I've narrowed it down to half a dozen or so and sent the list to DH. Those range from late September to early December. Then deciding on an IM my top 3 are, mostly because of ease of travel, IMAZ, Boulder, and IMTX. I fear course changes or even cancellation of IMTX based on the last couple years. Coach Michi favored Boulder, Coach Scott favored IMAZ. Thinking out loud. Anyone else want to help me brainstorm? ETA: I've also considered hiring a coach for either or both of these segments. It seems from a little quick research that IMAZ and IM Boulder are two very different animals. Boulder bike description: "The 112 Mile multi-loop course is entirely within Boulder County and features amazing mountain views with some of the same roads trained on by many of our local world champion triathletes. The course has a handful of decent climbs but has a lot of fast and flat sections to keep you moving." Boulder run description: "This is a two loop course with 3 out and backs on each loop. We call it the "Flux Capacitor”. This course features everything about Boulder we love. A well shaded bike path and plenty of spectator viewing points for your family and friends. There will be aid stations approximately at every mile." The run for IMAZ is listed as: "The run course is flat and spectator-friendly with a few small rollers, as athletes wind their way around Tempe Town Lake and through Papago Park. Athletes should be sure to pack a visor or hat in their T2 bags, as the course offers very little shade." * All quotes taken from the respective official IM website course description Which one appeals to your strengths? It sounds like a bit of cool (I'm guessing, or at least not scorching) vs hot, hilly vs. flat. If it were me making the decision, it would be Boulder all the way. ok I know I'm way late to the conversation - did anyone mention elevation? I skied in Colorado and coming from 600' above sea level it was not easy the first few days. Just a thought. And the other discussion on the new B2B, I'm considering it for Oct 2017 - so keep that in the back of your head. It's worth it just to see ME! |
| 2016-05-10 4:18 PM in reply to: mtnbikerchk |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by melbo55 ok I know I'm way late to the conversation - did anyone mention elevation? I skied in Colorado and coming from 600' above sea level it was not easy the first few days. Just a thought. And the other discussion on the new B2B, I'm considering it for Oct 2017 - so keep that in the back of your head. It's worth it just to see ME! Originally posted by rrrunner Okay, I am over a week recovered (physically and mentally) from my 50k. The "what's next" thoughts have been haunting/lingering/tormenting since before the race. My overall, yet vague, decision is to train for a 50 mile run race this fall while also training for my metric century ride in October. Then I would, at some point, transition to IM training for a race sometime in 2017. Choosing a 50 miler has been difficult, mostly because of schedule conflicts. I've narrowed it down to half a dozen or so and sent the list to DH. Those range from late September to early December. Then deciding on an IM my top 3 are, mostly because of ease of travel, IMAZ, Boulder, and IMTX. I fear course changes or even cancellation of IMTX based on the last couple years. Coach Michi favored Boulder, Coach Scott favored IMAZ. Thinking out loud. Anyone else want to help me brainstorm? ETA: I've also considered hiring a coach for either or both of these segments. It seems from a little quick research that IMAZ and IM Boulder are two very different animals. Boulder bike description: "The 112 Mile multi-loop course is entirely within Boulder County and features amazing mountain views with some of the same roads trained on by many of our local world champion triathletes. The course has a handful of decent climbs but has a lot of fast and flat sections to keep you moving." Boulder run description: "This is a two loop course with 3 out and backs on each loop. We call it the "Flux Capacitor”. This course features everything about Boulder we love. A well shaded bike path and plenty of spectator viewing points for your family and friends. There will be aid stations approximately at every mile." The run for IMAZ is listed as: "The run course is flat and spectator-friendly with a few small rollers, as athletes wind their way around Tempe Town Lake and through Papago Park. Athletes should be sure to pack a visor or hat in their T2 bags, as the course offers very little shade." * All quotes taken from the respective official IM website course description Which one appeals to your strengths? It sounds like a bit of cool (I'm guessing, or at least not scorching) vs hot, hilly vs. flat. If it were me making the decision, it would be Boulder all the way. Elevation is not really a concern as I live/work higher or as high as any North American IM. B2B is a real possibility at this point. ESPECIALLY if DS2 gets orders to stay on the East Coast. |
| 2016-05-10 5:48 PM in reply to: rrrunner |
Veteran 2441 Western Australia | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by rrrunner Wow, just wow. A normal old marathon has me slightly scared. So I've pretty much settled on a 50 miler. It's called Colossal Vail 50/50. It's near Tucson in November. So I asked a marathon runner friend about it because he lives in Tucson. He didn't know anyone who'd run it but warned me that runs in the Colossal area can be hilly. I told him I ain't skeert of hills I also asked Coach Scott about helping me train for a 50 miler and a metric century ride simultaneously. He said he's good with it. I'll have to give him a call and talk specifics, and price Way to embrace going long. |
| 2016-05-11 5:20 AM in reply to: rrrunner |
Member 2098 Simsbury, Connecticut | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by melbo55 ok I know I'm way late to the conversation - did anyone mention elevation? I skied in Colorado and coming from 600' above sea level it was not easy the first few days. Just a thought. And the other discussion on the new B2B, I'm considering it for Oct 2017 - so keep that in the back of your head. It's worth it just to see ME! Originally posted by rrrunner Okay, I am over a week recovered (physically and mentally) from my 50k. The "what's next" thoughts have been haunting/lingering/tormenting since before the race. My overall, yet vague, decision is to train for a 50 mile run race this fall while also training for my metric century ride in October. Then I would, at some point, transition to IM training for a race sometime in 2017. Choosing a 50 miler has been difficult, mostly because of schedule conflicts. I've narrowed it down to half a dozen or so and sent the list to DH. Those range from late September to early December. Then deciding on an IM my top 3 are, mostly because of ease of travel, IMAZ, Boulder, and IMTX. I fear course changes or even cancellation of IMTX based on the last couple years. Coach Michi favored Boulder, Coach Scott favored IMAZ. Thinking out loud. Anyone else want to help me brainstorm? ETA: I've also considered hiring a coach for either or both of these segments. It seems from a little quick research that IMAZ and IM Boulder are two very different animals. Boulder bike description: "The 112 Mile multi-loop course is entirely within Boulder County and features amazing mountain views with some of the same roads trained on by many of our local world champion triathletes. The course has a handful of decent climbs but has a lot of fast and flat sections to keep you moving." Boulder run description: "This is a two loop course with 3 out and backs on each loop. We call it the "Flux Capacitor”. This course features everything about Boulder we love. A well shaded bike path and plenty of spectator viewing points for your family and friends. There will be aid stations approximately at every mile." The run for IMAZ is listed as: "The run course is flat and spectator-friendly with a few small rollers, as athletes wind their way around Tempe Town Lake and through Papago Park. Athletes should be sure to pack a visor or hat in their T2 bags, as the course offers very little shade." * All quotes taken from the respective official IM website course description Which one appeals to your strengths? It sounds like a bit of cool (I'm guessing, or at least not scorching) vs hot, hilly vs. flat. If it were me making the decision, it would be Boulder all the way. Elevation is not really a concern as I live/work higher or as high as any North American IM. B2B is a real possibility at this point. ESPECIALLY if DS2 gets orders to stay on the East Coast. then I vote Boulder! |
| 2016-05-11 7:23 AM in reply to: rrrunner |
Master 8247 Eugene, Oregon Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Ha, when we do our fitness test they ask me if I need to swim and bike before the run. The older I get, the more I think my honest answer to that might be, "Yes."! (I actually tend to run faster if I've swum and/or biked first. Never been one to charge out of the blocks and it hasn't improved over the years.) |
| 2016-05-11 7:31 AM in reply to: Hot Runner |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by Hot Runner The older I get, the more I think my honest answer to that might be, "Yes."! (I actually tend to run faster if I've swum and/or biked first. Never been one to charge out of the blocks and it hasn't improved over the years.) Ha, when we do our fitness test they ask me if I need to swim and bike before the run. i agree with the swimming - biking before running. My 5k PR was set during a sprint tri. I take forever to warm up! |
| 2016-05-11 10:21 AM in reply to: mtnbikerchk |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by melbo55 ok I know I'm way late to the conversation - did anyone mention elevation? I skied in Colorado and coming from 600' above sea level it was not easy the first few days. Just a thought. And the other discussion on the new B2B, I'm considering it for Oct 2017 - so keep that in the back of your head. It's worth it just to see ME! Originally posted by rrrunner Okay, I am over a week recovered (physically and mentally) from my 50k. The "what's next" thoughts have been haunting/lingering/tormenting since before the race. My overall, yet vague, decision is to train for a 50 mile run race this fall while also training for my metric century ride in October. Then I would, at some point, transition to IM training for a race sometime in 2017. Choosing a 50 miler has been difficult, mostly because of schedule conflicts. I've narrowed it down to half a dozen or so and sent the list to DH. Those range from late September to early December. Then deciding on an IM my top 3 are, mostly because of ease of travel, IMAZ, Boulder, and IMTX. I fear course changes or even cancellation of IMTX based on the last couple years. Coach Michi favored Boulder, Coach Scott favored IMAZ. Thinking out loud. Anyone else want to help me brainstorm? ETA: I've also considered hiring a coach for either or both of these segments. It seems from a little quick research that IMAZ and IM Boulder are two very different animals. Boulder bike description: "The 112 Mile multi-loop course is entirely within Boulder County and features amazing mountain views with some of the same roads trained on by many of our local world champion triathletes. The course has a handful of decent climbs but has a lot of fast and flat sections to keep you moving." Boulder run description: "This is a two loop course with 3 out and backs on each loop. We call it the "Flux Capacitor”. This course features everything about Boulder we love. A well shaded bike path and plenty of spectator viewing points for your family and friends. There will be aid stations approximately at every mile." The run for IMAZ is listed as: "The run course is flat and spectator-friendly with a few small rollers, as athletes wind their way around Tempe Town Lake and through Papago Park. Athletes should be sure to pack a visor or hat in their T2 bags, as the course offers very little shade." * All quotes taken from the respective official IM website course description Which one appeals to your strengths? It sounds like a bit of cool (I'm guessing, or at least not scorching) vs hot, hilly vs. flat. If it were me making the decision, it would be Boulder all the way. I'm the local but I'm considering Chicago for my fall event. Pending getting in, of course. |
| 2016-05-11 12:25 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
| Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux So speaking of elevation and Boulder, should I pack an oxygen tank for the race? |
| 2016-05-11 12:59 PM in reply to: melbo55 |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by melbo55 So speaking of elevation and Boulder, should I pack an oxygen tank for the race? Toast? Maybe just slightly dried out bread Some people do fine, others notsomuch. Remember when Felicia went to Colorado Springs and got dizzy being there? Of course, Salty wasn't phased in the least but she's Wonder Woman. I remember growing up the sports teams who were visiting from lower elevations struggled, and often had oxygen masks on the sidelines. |
| 2016-05-11 1:02 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
| 93 Chicago, Illinois | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by melbo55 ok I know I'm way late to the conversation - did anyone mention elevation? I skied in Colorado and coming from 600' above sea level it was not easy the first few days. Just a thought. And the other discussion on the new B2B, I'm considering it for Oct 2017 - so keep that in the back of your head. It's worth it just to see ME! Originally posted by rrrunner Okay, I am over a week recovered (physically and mentally) from my 50k. The "what's next" thoughts have been haunting/lingering/tormenting since before the race. My overall, yet vague, decision is to train for a 50 mile run race this fall while also training for my metric century ride in October. Then I would, at some point, transition to IM training for a race sometime in 2017. Choosing a 50 miler has been difficult, mostly because of schedule conflicts. I've narrowed it down to half a dozen or so and sent the list to DH. Those range from late September to early December. Then deciding on an IM my top 3 are, mostly because of ease of travel, IMAZ, Boulder, and IMTX. I fear course changes or even cancellation of IMTX based on the last couple years. Coach Michi favored Boulder, Coach Scott favored IMAZ. Thinking out loud. Anyone else want to help me brainstorm? ETA: I've also considered hiring a coach for either or both of these segments. It seems from a little quick research that IMAZ and IM Boulder are two very different animals. Boulder bike description: "The 112 Mile multi-loop course is entirely within Boulder County and features amazing mountain views with some of the same roads trained on by many of our local world champion triathletes. The course has a handful of decent climbs but has a lot of fast and flat sections to keep you moving." Boulder run description: "This is a two loop course with 3 out and backs on each loop. We call it the "Flux Capacitor”. This course features everything about Boulder we love. A well shaded bike path and plenty of spectator viewing points for your family and friends. There will be aid stations approximately at every mile." The run for IMAZ is listed as: "The run course is flat and spectator-friendly with a few small rollers, as athletes wind their way around Tempe Town Lake and through Papago Park. Athletes should be sure to pack a visor or hat in their T2 bags, as the course offers very little shade." * All quotes taken from the respective official IM website course description Which one appeals to your strengths? It sounds like a bit of cool (I'm guessing, or at least not scorching) vs hot, hilly vs. flat. If it were me making the decision, it would be Boulder all the way. I'm the local but I'm considering Chicago for my fall event. Pending getting in, of course. Anyone else considering the Chicago Marathon? Mile 20 is about 4 blocks from my place so if I am in town I usually go down to cheer on the runners. |
| 2016-05-11 1:29 PM in reply to: emcmino |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by emcmino Originally posted by jmkizer Anyone else considering the Chicago Marathon? Mile 20 is about 4 blocks from my place so if I am in town I usually go down to cheer on the runners. Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by melbo55 ok I know I'm way late to the conversation - did anyone mention elevation? I skied in Colorado and coming from 600' above sea level it was not easy the first few days. Just a thought. And the other discussion on the new B2B, I'm considering it for Oct 2017 - so keep that in the back of your head. It's worth it just to see ME! Originally posted by rrrunner Okay, I am over a week recovered (physically and mentally) from my 50k. The "what's next" thoughts have been haunting/lingering/tormenting since before the race. My overall, yet vague, decision is to train for a 50 mile run race this fall while also training for my metric century ride in October. Then I would, at some point, transition to IM training for a race sometime in 2017. Choosing a 50 miler has been difficult, mostly because of schedule conflicts. I've narrowed it down to half a dozen or so and sent the list to DH. Those range from late September to early December. Then deciding on an IM my top 3 are, mostly because of ease of travel, IMAZ, Boulder, and IMTX. I fear course changes or even cancellation of IMTX based on the last couple years. Coach Michi favored Boulder, Coach Scott favored IMAZ. Thinking out loud. Anyone else want to help me brainstorm? ETA: I've also considered hiring a coach for either or both of these segments. It seems from a little quick research that IMAZ and IM Boulder are two very different animals. Boulder bike description: "The 112 Mile multi-loop course is entirely within Boulder County and features amazing mountain views with some of the same roads trained on by many of our local world champion triathletes. The course has a handful of decent climbs but has a lot of fast and flat sections to keep you moving." Boulder run description: "This is a two loop course with 3 out and backs on each loop. We call it the "Flux Capacitor”. This course features everything about Boulder we love. A well shaded bike path and plenty of spectator viewing points for your family and friends. There will be aid stations approximately at every mile." The run for IMAZ is listed as: "The run course is flat and spectator-friendly with a few small rollers, as athletes wind their way around Tempe Town Lake and through Papago Park. Athletes should be sure to pack a visor or hat in their T2 bags, as the course offers very little shade." * All quotes taken from the respective official IM website course description Which one appeals to your strengths? It sounds like a bit of cool (I'm guessing, or at least not scorching) vs hot, hilly vs. flat. If it were me making the decision, it would be Boulder all the way. I'm the local but I'm considering Chicago for my fall event. Pending getting in, of course. This is for 2017. I have Chattanooga this year. |
| 2016-05-11 3:32 PM in reply to: emcmino |
| 1731 Denver, Colorado | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by emcmino Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by melbo55 ok I know I'm way late to the conversation - did anyone mention elevation? I skied in Colorado and coming from 600' above sea level it was not easy the first few days. Just a thought. And the other discussion on the new B2B, I'm considering it for Oct 2017 - so keep that in the back of your head. It's worth it just to see ME! Originally posted by rrrunner Okay, I am over a week recovered (physically and mentally) from my 50k. The "what's next" thoughts have been haunting/lingering/tormenting since before the race. My overall, yet vague, decision is to train for a 50 mile run race this fall while also training for my metric century ride in October. Then I would, at some point, transition to IM training for a race sometime in 2017. Choosing a 50 miler has been difficult, mostly because of schedule conflicts. I've narrowed it down to half a dozen or so and sent the list to DH. Those range from late September to early December. Then deciding on an IM my top 3 are, mostly because of ease of travel, IMAZ, Boulder, and IMTX. I fear course changes or even cancellation of IMTX based on the last couple years. Coach Michi favored Boulder, Coach Scott favored IMAZ. Thinking out loud. Anyone else want to help me brainstorm? ETA: I've also considered hiring a coach for either or both of these segments. It seems from a little quick research that IMAZ and IM Boulder are two very different animals. Boulder bike description: "The 112 Mile multi-loop course is entirely within Boulder County and features amazing mountain views with some of the same roads trained on by many of our local world champion triathletes. The course has a handful of decent climbs but has a lot of fast and flat sections to keep you moving." Boulder run description: "This is a two loop course with 3 out and backs on each loop. We call it the "Flux Capacitor”. This course features everything about Boulder we love. A well shaded bike path and plenty of spectator viewing points for your family and friends. There will be aid stations approximately at every mile." The run for IMAZ is listed as: "The run course is flat and spectator-friendly with a few small rollers, as athletes wind their way around Tempe Town Lake and through Papago Park. Athletes should be sure to pack a visor or hat in their T2 bags, as the course offers very little shade." * All quotes taken from the respective official IM website course description Which one appeals to your strengths? It sounds like a bit of cool (I'm guessing, or at least not scorching) vs hot, hilly vs. flat. If it were me making the decision, it would be Boulder all the way. I'm the local but I'm considering Chicago for my fall event. Pending getting in, of course. Anyone else considering the Chicago Marathon? Mile 20 is about 4 blocks from my place so if I am in town I usually go down to cheer on the runners. My best friend and two co-workers are running this year I will definitely come to support them. We could have a meet up |
| 2016-05-11 4:16 PM in reply to: marysia83 |
| 93 Chicago, Illinois | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by marysia83 Originally posted by emcmino Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by melbo55 ok I know I'm way late to the conversation - did anyone mention elevation? I skied in Colorado and coming from 600' above sea level it was not easy the first few days. Just a thought. And the other discussion on the new B2B, I'm considering it for Oct 2017 - so keep that in the back of your head. It's worth it just to see ME! Originally posted by rrrunner Okay, I am over a week recovered (physically and mentally) from my 50k. The "what's next" thoughts have been haunting/lingering/tormenting since before the race. My overall, yet vague, decision is to train for a 50 mile run race this fall while also training for my metric century ride in October. Then I would, at some point, transition to IM training for a race sometime in 2017. Choosing a 50 miler has been difficult, mostly because of schedule conflicts. I've narrowed it down to half a dozen or so and sent the list to DH. Those range from late September to early December. Then deciding on an IM my top 3 are, mostly because of ease of travel, IMAZ, Boulder, and IMTX. I fear course changes or even cancellation of IMTX based on the last couple years. Coach Michi favored Boulder, Coach Scott favored IMAZ. Thinking out loud. Anyone else want to help me brainstorm? ETA: I've also considered hiring a coach for either or both of these segments. It seems from a little quick research that IMAZ and IM Boulder are two very different animals. Boulder bike description: "The 112 Mile multi-loop course is entirely within Boulder County and features amazing mountain views with some of the same roads trained on by many of our local world champion triathletes. The course has a handful of decent climbs but has a lot of fast and flat sections to keep you moving." Boulder run description: "This is a two loop course with 3 out and backs on each loop. We call it the "Flux Capacitor”. This course features everything about Boulder we love. A well shaded bike path and plenty of spectator viewing points for your family and friends. There will be aid stations approximately at every mile." The run for IMAZ is listed as: "The run course is flat and spectator-friendly with a few small rollers, as athletes wind their way around Tempe Town Lake and through Papago Park. Athletes should be sure to pack a visor or hat in their T2 bags, as the course offers very little shade." * All quotes taken from the respective official IM website course description Which one appeals to your strengths? It sounds like a bit of cool (I'm guessing, or at least not scorching) vs hot, hilly vs. flat. If it were me making the decision, it would be Boulder all the way. I'm the local but I'm considering Chicago for my fall event. Pending getting in, of course. Anyone else considering the Chicago Marathon? Mile 20 is about 4 blocks from my place so if I am in town I usually go down to cheer on the runners. My best friend and two co-workers are running this year I will definitely come to support them. We could have a meet up Sure we will just need to connect closer to race day to make sure plans haven't changed. I should also have a two week old baby which could throw a wrench into my plans. |
| 2016-05-11 5:54 PM in reply to: mtnbikerchk |
Veteran 659 East Texas | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by melbo55 ok I know I'm way late to the conversation - did anyone mention elevation? I skied in Colorado and coming from 600' above sea level it was not easy the first few days. Just a thought. And the other discussion on the new B2B, I'm considering it for Oct 2017 - so keep that in the back of your head. It's worth it just to see ME! Originally posted by rrrunner Okay, I am over a week recovered (physically and mentally) from my 50k. The "what's next" thoughts have been haunting/lingering/tormenting since before the race. My overall, yet vague, decision is to train for a 50 mile run race this fall while also training for my metric century ride in October. Then I would, at some point, transition to IM training for a race sometime in 2017. Choosing a 50 miler has been difficult, mostly because of schedule conflicts. I've narrowed it down to half a dozen or so and sent the list to DH. Those range from late September to early December. Then deciding on an IM my top 3 are, mostly because of ease of travel, IMAZ, Boulder, and IMTX. I fear course changes or even cancellation of IMTX based on the last couple years. Coach Michi favored Boulder, Coach Scott favored IMAZ. Thinking out loud. Anyone else want to help me brainstorm? ETA: I've also considered hiring a coach for either or both of these segments. It seems from a little quick research that IMAZ and IM Boulder are two very different animals. Boulder bike description: "The 112 Mile multi-loop course is entirely within Boulder County and features amazing mountain views with some of the same roads trained on by many of our local world champion triathletes. The course has a handful of decent climbs but has a lot of fast and flat sections to keep you moving." Boulder run description: "This is a two loop course with 3 out and backs on each loop. We call it the "Flux Capacitor”. This course features everything about Boulder we love. A well shaded bike path and plenty of spectator viewing points for your family and friends. There will be aid stations approximately at every mile." The run for IMAZ is listed as: "The run course is flat and spectator-friendly with a few small rollers, as athletes wind their way around Tempe Town Lake and through Papago Park. Athletes should be sure to pack a visor or hat in their T2 bags, as the course offers very little shade." * All quotes taken from the respective official IM website course description Which one appeals to your strengths? It sounds like a bit of cool (I'm guessing, or at least not scorching) vs hot, hilly vs. flat. If it were me making the decision, it would be Boulder all the way. Elevation is not really a concern as I live/work higher or as high as any North American IM. B2B is a real possibility at this point. ESPECIALLY if DS2 gets orders to stay on the East Coast. then I vote Boulder! I vote Boulder! But of course I'm doing it in 12 weeks so....Guess I can let you know how it goes |
| 2016-05-11 10:27 PM in reply to: marysia83 |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by marysia83 Dilemma of the month (and the month has just started... ehh...): SWIM COACH. I would love to have a swim coach for gazzilion number of reasons. Somebody I really trust in the field of triathlon and long-distance swimming recommended me this woman a while ago and I am dreaming of getting the training with her. But... The cost of one hour is $90. My understanding is I would need at least three meet-ups and probably at least 2-3 follow ups. So that's ~$450. I am taking my kids to Poland for a vacation this summer and it will be pretty costly (you don't wanna know how much I had to pay for airfare... :/) My car is acting funky and if I need another repair - here comes another cost. I am on single income and already spent tons of money just for races' registrations. So no, I do not have another $300+ in my budget for something that I *might* need. At the same time... I am trying to figure out if maybe I should suck it up and try somehow to have those lessons/training. Yes, I can do it next year, but I was thinking that since I am just learning freestyle, it would be great to learn proper technique from the very beginning. My goal this year is 1,500 m of Oly distance. I currently swim at 2:30 min/100y. According to my research and "strategy plan" I will be able to make the distance, and worst case scenario: I will switch styles with breast and back, and finish swim in over 45 minutes. So it's not catastrophic. But then, if she helps me - then she would help me for life and that's priceless. Or am I being too romantic...? Let me know what you think. Especially those of you who are coaches (Yanti!!!). If i should post a details of the trainer I am talking about, please let me know. Thanks, as always, for your feedback! Hi Mary. The group idea does sound like a good option, if possible. Also wondering if you had considered a masters program? There is one based right in Northwestern and others all over the place between there and Chicago. The Illinois site is here. The NW specific one is here. For the few places I've looked at (and the one I've been in) they tend to be ~$100 for a 3 month block, or averaging something like $30-35/month. The one I went to had a couple All-America level swimmers or AAAA motivation times, but also worked with some swimming 3:00+/100. We swam at speed appropriate for where we were at and people got along great across the board. The coach was great, taking any questions before practice, during the early goings and afterward. It's not 1 on 1, but could still get a fair amount of attention. Other places can vary from this, but it is possible to get some good coaching from them. Another name I've heard come highly recommended is Mary Bradbury, although pricing may go back up to what you had found if that's not who you were looking at already. I haven't worked with her at all, but a recommendation from ST's deserdude is often good enough to check out. |
| 2016-05-11 10:54 PM in reply to: popsracer |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by popsracer Originally posted by JBacarella Originally posted by Jet Black Building up heart rate and fitness on the bike are closely related. It takes longer to build up strength on the bike than it does for running. I wouldn't sweat it, stay consistent and it will come. I use Maffetone method for heart rate and it took me over a year to build up the bike strength to hold my heart rate at my maximum aerobic function. Originally posted by tomsimper I am struggling to get my HR up on the bike and wanted to know if this is due to the way I am riding as had no issue on the turbo trainer? I go in a gear where I can feel enough resistance when peddling but cadence isn't probably that high but can certainly feel it in my legs. Should I be looking at dropping a few gears so I can spin the pedals quicker to make it more efficient. Also what is the best way to get quicker on the bike, a friend who rides a lot says head for the hills, which is ok as I have plenty near me or as I am new to riding is it better to just get miles in the legs? This is most likely rule #5 at play here, but also your bike fitness probably just isn't there. Heading for the hills is a good idea because you can't make them easy. Over the years I have tried a lot of things to improve. Where I got the best results was when I started doing intervals like 4 x 5 min very hard or repeats on hills. I also found that as I increased my strength I could sustain a higher gear which added greatly to my speed. I did have to reduce my cadence to push a higher gear which was harder at first but as strength goes up it becomes more manageable. It does take time and a lot of pain to make drastic improvements. Missed this one too. Bike fitness can be built up the fastest of the three as it has the least skill and probably tied with swimming for least injury risk. The difficult part is learning what going very hard really is. That's what Steve saw for his best work. I don't think something like Maffetone is supposed to be all easy necessarily, but tends to be interpreted that way. It'll work better for running because of the stress caused by the impact of running. Cycling doesn't have that and you can (and really should) go hard at times. Something like 20-35' or so of an hours ride, and composed of intervals. Steve's example of 4 x 5' is a good one. I just did Sufferfest's A Very Dark Place yesterday, 5 x 4'. Later in the week, I'm deciding on a 3 x 10' or 2 x 20' one. The exact cadence used isn't really a big deal, though it can be a good idea to move it around some. I'l use both the 75-85 rpm of the 3 x 8' in Angels and the often 95+ of the 3 x 10' in The Rookie. HR does tend to increase a little higher and a little faster with the higher cadence due to the load shifting some more onto the cardiovascular system, but the more important thing is that the actual output is high and hard. HR is an indication of an output, but not an output itself because it's in the middle of the system creating it. Power is an output, speed is an output. There isn't necessarily anything magical about hills to improve cycling ability, but what does happen is that people tend to be more motivated to work harder on them. And that's where they benefit. From that, use anything you can to motivate yourself more. If it helps you work harder, then use it. Not every ride has make you want to drop dead. Once or twice a week is good. |
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