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 2018-02-09 3:17 PM in reply to: 0 |
 Pennsylvania |  Subject: RE: ManateesOriginally posted by jmkizer Racing Manatees!!! February 10-11 Yay, a racing manatee!! Have fun on the trails, Stacey! Edited by melbo55 2018-02-09 3:17 PM |
| 2018-02-09 3:48 PM in reply to: amd723 |
Veteran  2441   Western Australia | Subject: RE: Manatees Originally posted by amd723 There won't be much racing happening, but it will be done cause I need the next piece for my mega medal. It's a 5 race series and the medals all slot together to make a pie. I am missing one piece cause the Dopey marathon was on the same day as race 2 so I can't miss another. There will be much walking (given I haven't been training) but thankfully the hills aren't as bad as the last one. Originally posted by jmkizer Racing Manatees!!! February 10-11 Finally, a racing manatee! Go Stacey!! |
| 2018-02-09 8:29 PM in reply to: StaceyK |
Master 8249  Eugene, Oregon Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatees That medal sounds cool! I was wondering if you had to stop during the race and do Qi Gong?! (Used to study it when I lived in Hawaii.) |
| 2018-02-10 12:29 PM in reply to: cdban66 |
Veteran 1900 Southampton, Ontario | Subject: RE: Manatees Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by cdban66 Okay, now I have a crap ton of follow up questions for a bunch of folks, but that'll have to wait for lunch (and probably tomorrow as well). Thanks everyone, keep it coming! I think the number of non-tri races and racers is interesting. I wonder about motivation and why we do what we do. I know that my joy lately comes from being out in the woods, so mtb and trail running have just been a natural thing for me the past few years. We're adding camping as well. So, for those that are participating outside the average triathlon, would you care to tell what has created this or why you do what you do? Why is always an interesting question and one that crosses many sports for me. I would say that I am a snowboarder, whitewater kayaker, Mountain/gravel biker and trail runner. The common thread across all is being outdoors and the challenges that each affords. I will also admit that each is an escape - not that I have a hard life or anything but its still nice to step away from the daily grind and do something outside. As far as triathlon goes I find myself shrinking away from it, swimming is an issue when it comes to available pool times that often dont align with my schedule and I hate going into races with the idea of "surviving the swim". My focus this year seems to be on the bike with a couple of gravel races and a possible 5 day gravel tour. |
| 2018-02-10 5:19 PM in reply to: kbhanson3 |
Member 836 North Augusta, South Carolina | Subject: RE: Manatees Originally posted by kbhanson3 Originally posted by IronOx Yes to all of that! Also for me, if I don't sign up for a race and have a goal to train for, I probably wouldn't put in as much time & effort. I sure wouldn't be running! Deciding to give a less flippant answer to the question why do I do this. It allows me to eat and drink more that I could if I didn't. It gives me time with friends that I might not otherwise make time for. It gives me a sense of accomplishment. It stops me from wasting my life sitting on the couch. It gives me energy to do other things. It helps in keeping depression at bay. And Stacey, I have thought about your question what's the point in trying to get/stay healthy if healthy people can just die suddenly? For me, the answer is that if it were to happen to me, my friends and family will not have to wonder if I could have done more. I once said that there is so much heart disease in my family, that I should just live and hope for the best. My best friend said why not take action to best. She died of breast cancer when she was 3 years younger than I am now, so I hold those words in my heart.
Karl, I'm the same. Even though I'm really not competitive in triathlon, I am still very goal oriented. I was the same way when I rode horses competitively. I rode for 20 years and was on a developmental list for the US Equestrian Team in the early 90s. I gave it up completely just before my 30th birthday in the late 90s. I have friends still very involved who invite me to come hack or trail ride with them, but it's just not for me. If there's not a training focus with a goal of some sort at the end, I'm really not interested. As I said in an earlier post, I don't particularly love swimming, biking or running. I have never felt a 'runner's high.' I do, however, feel good at the end of a workout, and I like the sense of accomplishment after a particularly challenging workout or race. But without an end goal, I'm not interested at all. |
| 2018-02-11 4:00 PM in reply to: 0 |
Veteran 2441 Western Australia | Subject: RE: Manatees I had a great race with E yesterday. Mum isn't able to run at the moment because of her knee so she has been volunteering doing first aid at the finish line. The course was great, there were hills but nowhere like in the last event and there was plenty of flat this time too. The people who run this race are great. After the last event (3weeks ago) they got feedback that people had friends that would love to trail run but the amount of hills in the courses was too daunting and the 12k distance is too much for them. So they have added a shorter, flatter course to each of the remaining events that they have scheduled for the summer. The first one was yesterday, and even though they had only organised it in the last 2-3 weeks they still managed to have medals for everyone that did they shorter course - they were different to the ones we got, they may have been last year's (there is an advantage to not putting a date on the medals) but they still had the name of the event on them which I thought was great. This is the "mega medal" that the five events in the series makes up. I am missing piece 2 as we're ran Dopey that weekend. Piece 5 happens in 2 weeks. Edited by StaceyK 2018-02-11 9:29 PM (Mega Medal.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Mega Medal.jpg (90KB - 4 downloads) |
| 2018-02-12 7:22 AM in reply to: StaceyK |
Champion 14677 Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatees Originally posted by StaceyK I had a great race with E yesterday. Mum isn't able to run at the moment because of her knee so she has been volunteering doing first aid at the finish line. The course was great, there were hills but nowhere like in the last event and there was plenty of flat this time too. The people who run this race are great. After the last event (3weeks ago) they got feedback that people had friends that would love to trail run but the amount of hills in the courses was too daunting and the 12k distance is too much for them. So they have added a shorter, flatter course to each of the remaining events that they have scheduled for the summer. The first one was yesterday, and even though they had only organised it in the last 2-3 weeks they still managed to have medals for everyone that did they shorter course - they were different to the ones we got, they may have been last year's (there is an advantage to not putting a date on the medals) but they still had the name of the event on them which I thought was great. This is the "mega medal" that the five events in the series makes up. I am missing piece 2 as we're ran Dopey that weekend. Piece 5 happens in 2 weeks. That is a fun medal! These folks need to teach a course on race planning! They obviously have it dialed in to be that responsive. |
| 2018-02-12 7:43 AM in reply to: StaceyK |
| 108 Jacksonville, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatees Originally posted by StaceyK Any race that puts the Staypuft Marshmallow man on a medal has to be a good event.I had a great race with E yesterday. Mum isn't able to run at the moment because of her knee so she has been volunteering doing first aid at the finish line. The course was great, there were hills but nowhere like in the last event and there was plenty of flat this time too. The people who run this race are great. After the last event (3weeks ago) they got feedback that people had friends that would love to trail run but the amount of hills in the courses was too daunting and the 12k distance is too much for them. So they have added a shorter, flatter course to each of the remaining events that they have scheduled for the summer. The first one was yesterday, and even though they had only organised it in the last 2-3 weeks they still managed to have medals for everyone that did they shorter course - they were different to the ones we got, they may have been last year's (there is an advantage to not putting a date on the medals) but they still had the name of the event on them which I thought was great. This is the "mega medal" that the five events in the series makes up. I am missing piece 2 as we're ran Dopey that weekend. Piece 5 happens in 2 weeks. |
| 2018-02-12 10:21 AM in reply to: kbhanson3 |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatees Originally posted by kbhanson3 Originally posted by StaceyK I had a great race with E yesterday. Mum isn't able to run at the moment because of her knee so she has been volunteering doing first aid at the finish line. The course was great, there were hills but nowhere like in the last event and there was plenty of flat this time too. The people who run this race are great. After the last event (3weeks ago) they got feedback that people had friends that would love to trail run but the amount of hills in the courses was too daunting and the 12k distance is too much for them. So they have added a shorter, flatter course to each of the remaining events that they have scheduled for the summer. The first one was yesterday, and even though they had only organised it in the last 2-3 weeks they still managed to have medals for everyone that did they shorter course - they were different to the ones we got, they may have been last year's (there is an advantage to not putting a date on the medals) but they still had the name of the event on them which I thought was great. This is the "mega medal" that the five events in the series makes up. I am missing piece 2 as we're ran Dopey that weekend. Piece 5 happens in 2 weeks. Any race that puts the Staypuft Marshmallow man on a medal has to be a good event. x2, this is a cool medal! And how cool of the RD to listen and react so quickly and thoughtfully?!?! |
| 2018-02-12 10:26 AM in reply to: cdban66 |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatees Time for another round of questions from Chris Some of the answers I saw to earlier questions alluded to coaches. Some were a bit detailed, some less so. Anyway, here are the questions and I have to admit, this one has been rolling around in my brain since my sister (runner turned workout enthusiast) hired a coach.
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| 2018-02-12 10:33 AM in reply to: StaceyK |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatees Originally posted by StaceyK I had a great race with E yesterday. Mum isn't able to run at the moment because of her knee so she has been volunteering doing first aid at the finish line. The course was great, there were hills but nowhere like in the last event and there was plenty of flat this time too. The people who run this race are great. After the last event (3weeks ago) they got feedback that people had friends that would love to trail run but the amount of hills in the courses was too daunting and the 12k distance is too much for them. So they have added a shorter, flatter course to each of the remaining events that they have scheduled for the summer. The first one was yesterday, and even though they had only organised it in the last 2-3 weeks they still managed to have medals for everyone that did they shorter course - they were different to the ones we got, they may have been last year's (there is an advantage to not putting a date on the medals) but they still had the name of the event on them which I thought was great. This is the "mega medal" that the five events in the series makes up. I am missing piece 2 as we're ran Dopey that weekend. Piece 5 happens in 2 weeks. Nice! The medal looks great and I'm glad to hear that you had fun. After all, that's what it's all about. |
| 2018-02-12 4:14 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 4452 | Subject: RE: Manatees F*&K. My coach and friend got the knock on the door from the police yesterday. Her husband was killed in an accident on his way home from visiting his sister and dad about 4 hours away. She had spoken to him not too long before it happened. I am heartbroken for her and so so grateful that I have some training in how to assist her; sure is different when there is an emotional attachment though. Sure wish there was a magic wand. |
| 2018-02-12 4:25 PM in reply to: IronOx |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatees Originally posted by IronOx F*&K. My coach and friend got the knock on the door from the police yesterday. Her husband was killed in an accident on his way home from visiting his sister and dad about 4 hours away. She had spoken to him not too long before it happened. I am heartbroken for her and so so grateful that I have some training in how to assist her; sure is different when there is an emotional attachment though. Sure wish there was a magic wand. oh boy, that stinks; so sorry! I’m glad she has you to help her through it. |
| 2018-02-12 4:39 PM in reply to: IronOx |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Manatees Originally posted by IronOx F*&K. My coach and friend got the knock on the door from the police yesterday. Her husband was killed in an accident on his way home from visiting his sister and dad about 4 hours away. She had spoken to him not too long before it happened. I am heartbroken for her and so so grateful that I have some training in how to assist her; sure is different when there is an emotional attachment though. Sure wish there was a magic wand. Oh how awful. As Hands said, I'm glad she has you to help her through. That takes me back to when Coach Scott got the call that his daughter was involved in a motorcycle accident. They now have a new normal, living with her TBI. Prayers for your friend. |
| 2018-02-12 5:29 PM in reply to: IronOx |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatees Originally posted by IronOx F*&K. My coach and friend got the knock on the door from the police yesterday. Her husband was killed in an accident on his way home from visiting his sister and dad about 4 hours away. She had spoken to him not too long before it happened. I am heartbroken for her and so so grateful that I have some training in how to assist her; sure is different when there is an emotional attachment though. Sure wish there was a magic wand. Oh my gosh! How shocking! I'm so sorry to hear about this. |
| 2018-02-12 7:21 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 8249 Eugene, Oregon Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatees So sorry to hear of this. It's always shocking and sad when someone passes, but somehow it seems worse when it's someone who hasn't died of natural causes at an old age. I know with my father it was a source of comfort that he led a reasonably long and full life and passed in the way he wanted to go; can only imagine how horrible it is if it is otherwise. |
| 2018-02-12 7:39 PM in reply to: cdban66 |
Master 8249 Eugene, Oregon Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatees What type of Coaching are you getting, ie tri specific or more all inclusive (weight training, weight loss, or other focus)? I have been working with a coach since November 2015. I do take 2-3 months off each fall after my last race of the season; also taking this month off while I work through a lot of things related to my dad's recent passing. She is a triathlon coaches and manages my workouts for all three sports. This is really important to me as I was having a lot of trouble balancing training intensity when I was coaching myself, using different plans for each sports, or doing group stuff like master's swimming. She also gives me strength workouts that change seasonally. I don't generally consult her about nutrition, except for race-related or recovery stuff. Is it what you had hoped or expected? In general, yes. Working with her, I have done things I never thought I could do (qualify for two Worlds, become an All World Athlete, done a 5:16 HIM and a 2:30 Oly at age 47). My coach is very knowledgable and easy to work with, and over time has gotten a good sense of how hard I can be pushed and when it starts to be too much for me physically and mentally. A lot of the latter has more to do with the time/energy demands of my job and sometimes the heat/humidity in Saigon. Certain kinds of workouts, especially running, end up being counterproductive because the heat stress or other fatigue takes so much out of me it outweighs the training benefits. We've had to work this out by trial and error. My coach is a former pro and a top AG competitor at IM and HIM distance, so I really trust her judgement on most training and racing matters. The one area I'm not 100% happy is that she seems to work with a lot of athletes. I feel like my workouts are personalized and she's very responsive if I have questions or concerns, but sometimes she seems to forget things about my training situation (like no hills, limited pool time, or that I do almost all my biking on a trainer) and gives me workouts I can't do without modifications. I feel like that wouldn't happen with a coach that had fewer athletes. What would you do differently? I would more clearly communicate with her when a workout isn't suited to my training situation, or when I'm feeling excessively fatigued. This is a long-standing issue for me. I've been an athlete since age 10; I am not very naturally gifted in much of anything, athletic or otherwise, but I've always been very stoic and able to endure a lot of hard work and suffering in training that many of my more-talented teammates shied away from. It's something I've always been proud of, not just in sports but other areas like academics. I've always been very reluctant to tell a coach I can't do something, or ask for an easier workout, or cut myself slack when I'm just not feeling up to it. There's a very fine line between pushing oneself consistently to do one's best, and over-training, and it's one I've always struggled with. Having a coach helps, but because all our communication is online, the onus is still on me to clearly let her know when things aren't working well. |
| 2018-02-13 5:04 AM in reply to: StaceyK |
Expert 1694 Illinois | Subject: RE: Manatees Originally posted by StaceyK I had a great race with E yesterday. Mum isn't able to run at the moment because of her knee so she has been volunteering doing first aid at the finish line. The course was great, there were hills but nowhere like in the last event and there was plenty of flat this time too. The people who run this race are great. After the last event (3weeks ago) they got feedback that people had friends that would love to trail run but the amount of hills in the courses was too daunting and the 12k distance is too much for them. So they have added a shorter, flatter course to each of the remaining events that they have scheduled for the summer. The first one was yesterday, and even though they had only organised it in the last 2-3 weeks they still managed to have medals for everyone that did they shorter course - they were different to the ones we got, they may have been last year's (there is an advantage to not putting a date on the medals) but they still had the name of the event on them which I thought was great. This is the "mega medal" that the five events in the series makes up. I am missing piece 2 as we're ran Dopey that weekend. Piece 5 happens in 2 weeks. Wow, what an incredible medal! |
| 2018-02-13 5:14 AM in reply to: cdban66 |
Expert 1694 Illinois | Subject: RE: Manatees Originally posted by cdban66 Time for another round of questions from Chris Some of the answers I saw to earlier questions alluded to coaches. Some were a bit detailed, some less so. Anyway, here are the questions and I have to admit, this one has been rolling around in my brain since my sister (runner turned workout enthusiast) hired a coach.
Good question Chris. I have been using a coach that I was matched with through Training Peaks where you fill out a questionnaire about what your personality is, what motivates you, do you need to be pushed, etc. Carrie's coaching background is tri-focused but she works with a group of coaches who also do a fair amount of mountain bike coaching. She has had a very successful triathlon career but in the off season, she does mostly running, mountain biking and cross country skiing. When I decided to drop out of triathlon last year, she was very supportive and encouraging. She is now coaching me for gravel riding and uses a combination of Zwift workouts and her own workouts to mix things up. Each week she also adds in weight workouts and yoga. Occasionally she will send me an article that she thinks may be of interest, and I can email her with questions. It's entirely possible that I could buy a canned plan or even put something together, but for a reasonable cost, that's all done for me. |
| 2018-02-13 7:04 AM in reply to: IronOx |
Champion 14677 Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatees Originally posted by IronOx F*&K. My coach and friend got the knock on the door from the police yesterday. Her husband was killed in an accident on his way home from visiting his sister and dad about 4 hours away. She had spoken to him not too long before it happened. I am heartbroken for her and so so grateful that I have some training in how to assist her; sure is different when there is an emotional attachment though. Sure wish there was a magic wand. You and your friend were in my mind all night. I am sure glad she spoke with him and that she has you to help. Sending her strength and I am hugging everyone I know much tighter today. |
| 2018-02-13 9:26 AM in reply to: IronOx |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatees Originally posted by IronOx F*&K. My coach and friend got the knock on the door from the police yesterday. Her husband was killed in an accident on his way home from visiting his sister and dad about 4 hours away. She had spoken to him not too long before it happened. I am heartbroken for her and so so grateful that I have some training in how to assist her; sure is different when there is an emotional attachment though. Sure wish there was a magic wand. UGH, I am gutted for you and his family. I don't know what to say or do, but if there is anything I can do from afar, please let me know. |
| 2018-02-13 9:32 AM in reply to: Hot Runner |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatees Originally posted by Hot Runner What type of Coaching are you getting, ie tri specific or more all inclusive (weight training, weight loss, or other focus)? I have been working with a coach since November 2015. I do take 2-3 months off each fall after my last race of the season; also taking this month off while I work through a lot of things related to my dad's recent passing. She is a triathlon coaches and manages my workouts for all three sports. This is really important to me as I was having a lot of trouble balancing training intensity when I was coaching myself, using different plans for each sports, or doing group stuff like master's swimming. She also gives me strength workouts that change seasonally. I don't generally consult her about nutrition, except for race-related or recovery stuff. Is it what you had hoped or expected? In general, yes. Working with her, I have done things I never thought I could do (qualify for two Worlds, become an All World Athlete, done a 5:16 HIM and a 2:30 Oly at age 47). My coach is very knowledgable and easy to work with, and over time has gotten a good sense of how hard I can be pushed and when it starts to be too much for me physically and mentally. A lot of the latter has more to do with the time/energy demands of my job and sometimes the heat/humidity in Saigon. Certain kinds of workouts, especially running, end up being counterproductive because the heat stress or other fatigue takes so much out of me it outweighs the training benefits. We've had to work this out by trial and error. My coach is a former pro and a top AG competitor at IM and HIM distance, so I really trust her judgement on most training and racing matters. The one area I'm not 100% happy is that she seems to work with a lot of athletes. I feel like my workouts are personalized and she's very responsive if I have questions or concerns, but sometimes she seems to forget things about my training situation (like no hills, limited pool time, or that I do almost all my biking on a trainer) and gives me workouts I can't do without modifications. I feel like that wouldn't happen with a coach that had fewer athletes. What would you do differently? I would more clearly communicate with her when a workout isn't suited to my training situation, or when I'm feeling excessively fatigued. This is a long-standing issue for me. I've been an athlete since age 10; I am not very naturally gifted in much of anything, athletic or otherwise, but I've always been very stoic and able to endure a lot of hard work and suffering in training that many of my more-talented teammates shied away from. It's something I've always been proud of, not just in sports but other areas like academics. I've always been very reluctant to tell a coach I can't do something, or ask for an easier workout, or cut myself slack when I'm just not feeling up to it. There's a very fine line between pushing oneself consistently to do one's best, and over-training, and it's one I've always struggled with. Having a coach helps, but because all our communication is online, the onus is still on me to clearly let her know when things aren't working well. Karen, we have an ongoing discussion here at work centered around the fact that it is OK to say "no". To me, this is the same type of thing. There are times when we have to say we can't do something, need help with something, need to make adjustments, etc. If you are a natural born "pleaser" (my DD2 for example) this can be especially hard to do. But if you do that sort of thing, it works out better in the long run. I understand the internal struggle, and I wish you the best of luck going forward. Big props to you for knowing the things you need to work on and taking the personal responsibility. |
| 2018-02-13 9:34 AM in reply to: abake |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatees Originally posted by abake Originally posted by cdban66 Good question Chris. I have been using a coach that I was matched with through Training Peaks where you fill out a questionnaire about what your personality is, what motivates you, do you need to be pushed, etc. Carrie's coaching background is tri-focused but she works with a group of coaches who also do a fair amount of mountain bike coaching. She has had a very successful triathlon career but in the off season, she does mostly running, mountain biking and cross country skiing. When I decided to drop out of triathlon last year, she was very supportive and encouraging. She is now coaching me for gravel riding and uses a combination of Zwift workouts and her own workouts to mix things up. Each week she also adds in weight workouts and yoga. Occasionally she will send me an article that she thinks may be of interest, and I can email her with questions. It's entirely possible that I could buy a canned plan or even put something together, but for a reasonable cost, that's all done for me. Time for another round of questions from Chris Some of the answers I saw to earlier questions alluded to coaches. Some were a bit detailed, some less so. Anyway, here are the questions and I have to admit, this one has been rolling around in my brain since my sister (runner turned workout enthusiast) hired a coach.
I didn't know TP did that. I'm not sure I'll ever have a coach (goals and all) but I had long ago connected Garmin to TP in the off chance that at some point I do. I knew that TP has a vast coaching network so it's pretty cool that they can match you up as well. |
| 2018-02-13 9:41 AM in reply to: cdban66 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatees Originally posted by cdban66
What type of Coaching are you getting, ie tri specific or more all inclusive (weight training, weight loss, or other focus)? Event specific coaching -- this means that if my next event is a tri, it's tri-specific but if my next big thing is Assault on Mount Mitchell (it's not!) then it would be bike-specific. This includes specific workouts (not just ride an hour but specific intervals), zone testing, form/skills assessment and training, strength training. You'd think that I'd be a ninja with all that. Sadly, that is not the case! Is it what you had hoped or expected? More or less. I mean, I was with Maija for 8 or 9 years and when she retired from coaching and sent me to Jackie, well, things changed. With on season behind us, I think that things with Jackie are smoothing out some. I mean, I know her style better and she knows me better. We'll see. What would you do differently? I don't know. I wish that Maija hadn't retired but I don't think that begging her to stay was the right course of action! Last season, I tried to do things Jackie's way as we figured each other out. This year, I'm taking charge a bit more. |
| 2018-02-13 10:29 AM in reply to: cdban66 |
Master 8249 Eugene, Oregon Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatees Haha....not a natural-born "pleaser"; a natural-born fighter. My elementary teachers would no doubt verify that! I'm not trying to impress my coach or anyone else. Have always cared less about what others think than I probably should. It's some kind of pride/ stubbornness thing. Like, "I may not be faster/stronger/smarter than you, but I am tougher and can work harder." |
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