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2022-09-14 2:29 PM
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So, I am going to be part of a Ragnar Relay team next Friday and Saturday (Sept 23 and 24). The run is from Muskegon, MI to Traverse City. One of my legs is on the run course for the HIM I just finished. A little bit of familiar ground. My body is going to hate me.


2022-09-14 2:50 PM
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Originally posted by JBacarella So, I am going to be part of a Ragnar Relay team next Friday and Saturday (Sept 23 and 24). The run is from Muskegon, MI to Traverse City. One of my legs is on the run course for the HIM I just finished. A little bit of familiar ground. My body is going to hate me.

But you are going to have a great time!

2022-09-14 9:58 PM
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Originally posted by JBacarella So, I am going to be part of a Ragnar Relay team next Friday and Saturday (Sept 23 and 24). The run is from Muskegon, MI to Traverse City. One of my legs is on the run course for the HIM I just finished. A little bit of familiar ground. My body is going to hate me.

But you are going to have a great time!




I am going to have a great time!

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Originally posted by JBacarella So, I am going to be part of a Ragnar Relay team next Friday and Saturday (Sept 23 and 24). The run is from Muskegon, MI to Traverse City. One of my legs is on the run course for the HIM I just finished. A little bit of familiar ground. My body is going to hate me.

But you are going to have a great time!




I am going to have a great time??

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2022-09-15 6:06 AM
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Originally posted by JBacarella So, I am going to be part of a Ragnar Relay team next Friday and Saturday (Sept 23 and 24). The run is from Muskegon, MI to Traverse City. One of my legs is on the run course for the HIM I just finished. A little bit of familiar ground. My body is going to hate me.

. Have fun (?)

2022-09-15 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by JBacarella So, I am going to be part of a Ragnar Relay team next Friday and Saturday (Sept 23 and 24). The run is from Muskegon, MI to Traverse City. One of my legs is on the run course for the HIM I just finished. A little bit of familiar ground. My body is going to hate me.

Is your leg the same 13.1 miles as the HIM or do you not have to run that many miles?



2022-09-15 2:25 PM
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Originally posted by JBacarella So, I am going to be part of a Ragnar Relay team next Friday and Saturday (Sept 23 and 24). The run is from Muskegon, MI to Traverse City. One of my legs is on the run course for the HIM I just finished. A little bit of familiar ground. My body is going to hate me.

Is your leg the same 13.1 miles as the HIM or do you not have to run that many miles?



No, it's only about a 2 mile section of it and there is a transfer station where the next runner will cover a couple of miles of it.

Sorry about the double post, but the accidentally funny one came through. The keyboard I was using had a smiling face on it that BT translated into ??. I didn't realize it posted twice and I corrected one. I kind of like the ?? more.
2022-09-16 12:08 PM
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Racing Manatees!!!

September 18
Karen - Washington 70.3
Melanie - swim leg of triathlon relay on Sunday

Doooo eeeettttt!!!!!!

Is anyone else racing or doing anything else fun this weekend?

2022-09-16 3:49 PM
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Racing Manatees!!!

September 18
Karen - Washington 70.3
Melanie - swim leg of triathlon relay on Sunday

Doooo eeeettttt!!!!!!

Is anyone else racing or doing anything else fun this weekend?

Go, go, go!

2022-09-17 1:32 PM
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Good luck racers!
2022-09-17 3:33 PM
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Originally posted by jmkizer

Racing Manatees!!!

September 18
Karen - Washington 70.3
Melanie - swim leg of triathlon relay on Sunday

Doooo eeeettttt!!!!!!

Is anyone else racing or doing anything else fun this weekend?




Can't wait to hear how everyone does this weekend!


2022-09-17 9:25 PM
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Washington's a beautiful course (really wish I'd done a lake swim there today) but yikes.....doing an out of state race on the weekend after the second week of school--I really felt today like I needed a nap, not a race! Hoping to feel more race-ready when I get up at 4:XX tomorrow!
2022-09-18 10:41 AM
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Karen has completed the swim (6th in age group),is through transition, and is currently on the bike. Go Karen!

2022-09-18 11:48 AM
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Karen has passed mile 32 on the bike. Go Karen!
2022-09-18 1:35 PM
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Originally posted by jmkizer Karen has passed mile 32 on the bike. Go Karen!

Karen is off the bike (12th in age group for bike leg), through transition, and in the run! Go Karen!

2022-09-18 2:39 PM
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Originally posted by jmkizer Karen has passed mile 32 on the bike. Go Karen!

Karen is off the bike (12th in age group for bike leg), through transition, and in the run! Go Karen!

Karen has less taht 2.5 miles to go. Bring it home, Karen!



2022-09-18 3:00 PM
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Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by jmkizer Karen has passed mile 32 on the bike. Go Karen!

Karen is off the bike (12th in age group for bike leg), through transition, and in the run! Go Karen!

Karen has less taht 2.5 miles to go. Bring it home, Karen!

karen has crossed the finish line.way to doooo eeetttt!

2022-09-18 5:51 PM
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Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by jmkizer Karen has passed mile 32 on the bike. Go Karen!

Karen is off the bike (12th in age group for bike leg), through transition, and in the run! Go Karen!

Karen has less taht 2.5 miles to go. Bring it home, Karen!

karen has crossed the finish line.way to doooo eeetttt!




Great job Karen!!!
2022-09-19 11:01 AM
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Subject: RE: Racing Manatees - Better Together in 2022

Originally posted by JBacarella So, I am going to be part of a Ragnar Relay team next Friday and Saturday (Sept 23 and 24). The run is from Muskegon, MI to Traverse City. One of my legs is on the run course for the HIM I just finished. A little bit of familiar ground. My body is going to hate me.

How did the Ragnar go?  I have done a few of them and my strategy has become to run the first leg fast but to make sure to leave a lot in the tank for the next two legs.  Then I totally sandbag the 2nd leg leg because if I try to run it as anything but a recovery run things fall apart in either that leg or the one that follows it.  Then I race the last leg, and after doing recovery for the 2nd segment, I can run it somewhat close to an open running event (i.e. only like 15-20 sec/mile slower).

2022-09-19 11:03 AM
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karen has crossed the finish line.way to doooo eeetttt!

Great job Karen!!!

 

Top 10 AG finish.  Nice!!!



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2022-09-19 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by jmkizer Karen has passed mile 32 on the bike. Go Karen!

Karen is off the bike (12th in age group for bike leg), through transition, and in the run! Go Karen!

Karen has less taht 2.5 miles to go. Bring it home, Karen!

karen has crossed the finish line.way to doooo eeetttt!

Congrats!!



2022-09-19 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by jmkizer Karen has passed mile 32 on the bike. Go Karen!

Karen is off the bike (12th in age group for bike leg), through transition, and in the run! Go Karen!

Karen has less taht 2.5 miles to go. Bring it home, Karen!

karen has crossed the finish line.way to doooo eeetttt!

Great job, Karen!!!

2022-09-19 12:50 PM
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Thanks for all the stalking and cheering! As should be apparent from the split (if a stalker) it was a decent swim, a horrid bike, and (for me, lately, at least) good run. Not a mechanical on the bike, just bad judgement. This was one time when I really needed an extra layer on the bike and I didn't put one on. I thought it was warmer than it was, that the day (and I) would warm up faster than we did, and all I had to do was "bike hard" and tough it out for the first few miles. Not.

I was shivering violently for most of (no kidding) the first 46 miles of the bike. Even stopped to ask at aid stations if there was any discarded clothing I could put on. (Don't do this--people just look at you like you're nuts!) With me at least, cold and shivering = cramps in every single muscle of the body. Including stomach. I had three or four gus and tasted them all at least twice. Had to stop to switch water bottles; at one point I could not squeeze a bottle to get fluid in my mouth. Not that cold--50's for much of bike (50 at start), warmed up later but by then I think my core temp had dropped and I could only get warm going up big hills (fortunately, there was a little of that, which warmed me up enough to keep control of the bike and carry on. Much of run was in dense shade and I have never appreciated sun more!

Fortunately it was well into the 60's by the start of the run and 70's by the end, and legs seemed to have suffered no lasting effects. After a few miles trying to get my lower back to loosen up, I felt fine. Gu stayed down and I felt stronger than I have in any HIM run since Wanaka, so long ago before the injury/Covid cancellation fiasco that has been the last several years began.

I really should listen to my own advice sometime--always telling the kids, "Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it."
2022-09-19 1:04 PM
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Originally posted by Hot Runner Thanks for all the stalking and cheering! As should be apparent from the split (if a stalker) it was a decent swim, a horrid bike, and (for me, lately, at least) good run. Not a mechanical on the bike, just bad judgement. This was one time when I really needed an extra layer on the bike and I didn't put one on. I thought it was warmer than it was, that the day (and I) would warm up faster than we did, and all I had to do was "bike hard" and tough it out for the first few miles. Not. I was shivering violently for most of (no kidding) the first 46 miles of the bike. Even stopped to ask at aid stations if there was any discarded clothing I could put on. (Don't do this--people just look at you like you're nuts!) With me at least, cold and shivering = cramps in every single muscle of the body. Including stomach. I had three or four gus and tasted them all at least twice. Had to stop to switch water bottles; at one point I could not squeeze a bottle to get fluid in my mouth. Not that cold--50's for much of bike (50 at start), warmed up later but by then I think my core temp had dropped and I could only get warm going up big hills (fortunately, there was a little of that, which warmed me up enough to keep control of the bike and carry on. Much of run was in dense shade and I have never appreciated sun more! Fortunately it was well into the 60's by the start of the run and 70's by the end, and legs seemed to have suffered no lasting effects. After a few miles trying to get my lower back to loosen up, I felt fine. Gu stayed down and I felt stronger than I have in any HIM run since Wanaka, so long ago before the injury/Covid cancellation fiasco that has been the last several years began. I really should listen to my own advice sometime--always telling the kids, "Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it."

I did see that you had a few Slower than Normal Karen bike splits but I did not know the course and I though, "Oh, hilly section." Glad that you are pleased with the swim and run. We know from Calgary that you can crush the bike split.

2022-09-19 1:44 PM
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Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by Hot Runner Thanks for all the stalking and cheering! As should be apparent from the split (if a stalker) it was a decent swim, a horrid bike, and (for me, lately, at least) good run. Not a mechanical on the bike, just bad judgement. This was one time when I really needed an extra layer on the bike and I didn't put one on. I thought it was warmer than it was, that the day (and I) would warm up faster than we did, and all I had to do was "bike hard" and tough it out for the first few miles. Not. I was shivering violently for most of (no kidding) the first 46 miles of the bike. Even stopped to ask at aid stations if there was any discarded clothing I could put on. (Don't do this--people just look at you like you're nuts!) With me at least, cold and shivering = cramps in every single muscle of the body. Including stomach. I had three or four gus and tasted them all at least twice. Had to stop to switch water bottles; at one point I could not squeeze a bottle to get fluid in my mouth. Not that cold--50's for much of bike (50 at start), warmed up later but by then I think my core temp had dropped and I could only get warm going up big hills (fortunately, there was a little of that, which warmed me up enough to keep control of the bike and carry on. Much of run was in dense shade and I have never appreciated sun more! Fortunately it was well into the 60's by the start of the run and 70's by the end, and legs seemed to have suffered no lasting effects. After a few miles trying to get my lower back to loosen up, I felt fine. Gu stayed down and I felt stronger than I have in any HIM run since Wanaka, so long ago before the injury/Covid cancellation fiasco that has been the last several years began. I really should listen to my own advice sometime--always telling the kids, "Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it."

I did see that you had a few Slower than Normal Karen bike splits but I did not know the course and I though, "Oh, hilly section." Glad that you are pleased with the swim and run. We know from Calgary that you can crush the bike split.

x2 - glad to hear you made it. Great work even when it looked doubtful on the run. 

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