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2014-01-31 9:39 AM in reply to: IndoIronYanti |
Science Nerd 28760 Redwood City, California | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by IndoIronYanti That settles it...I'm going to visit Yanti. Where are you? It's been a rough week. Nursing what could become shin splints, my thyroid is whack-tastic again, and I'm tired. Way more details in my blog. I'm taking a Jantastic Joker this week.Here's my pro-boy Freddie Croneborg with Jojo's pro-boy Macca. And the Hungarian men's national OW team. You're welcome |
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2014-01-31 10:02 AM in reply to: melbo55 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by melbo55 Originally posted by QueenZipp Originally posted by melbo55 When is this expo? I am thinking I might want to go. My tri club is having an endurance symposium this weekend...I am registered. Michellie Jones will be one of the speakers Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by melbo55 Sorry to interrupt the discussion of the lovely swimming piglets on the beach, but I just got an email that the one, the only SHEILA TAORMINA is going to be at the Tri-Mania DC Summit and Expo and will be doing some clinics!!! Squeal!! I'm really, really thinking about going. It's a nice little expo, actually the first one I ever went to before I began this crazy triathlon journey. Plus it's free, ya get a swag bag and a chance to win Norma-Tech recovery boot system. whats there to think about? Go! I'm registered for the expo (and the swag) next step will be to register to swim with Sheila! I've decided to incorporate a trip to Bonzai where I got Rico into this adventure since they are about 25 minutes apart and coincidently that was the weekend I had bookmarked to take him to get looked at. I'm thinking about dropping him off that week, then going back down the next weekend to pick him up and get re-fit. Nice timing! Oh and other piglets that will be present and speaking at the expo: Rinny and Timothy O'Donnel! Also Terry Laughlin and Brian Shea. March 22, 2014 in North Bethesda, MD at Georgetown Prep. http://www.tri-mania.com/Washington_DC/Seminars.htm Oh and I've officially signed up for Sheila's 10:30 swim clinic! EEEYAHOOO! Oh shyte, that means I need to write her ... and then you can say hi from me *feeling a bit guilty* |
2014-01-31 10:04 AM in reply to: Artemis |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by Artemis Originally posted by IndoIronYanti That settles it...I'm going to visit Yanti. Where are you? It's been a rough week. Nursing what could become shin splints, my thyroid is whack-tastic again, and I'm tired. Way more details in my blog. I'm taking a Jantastic Joker this week. Here's my pro-boy Freddie Croneborg with Jojo's pro-boy Macca. And the Hungarian men's national OW team. You're welcome You gotta come over. I'm in Perth and K and I are at the Super Series, a pro swim meet--saw a truckload of Olympic champions today and a world record broken. I seriously saw some of the most amazing swimming I've ever seen in my life today and that includes the televised stuff. And for you, Wondermoose ... warm healing {MELON PRESS} and of course a moose kiss. |
2014-01-31 10:20 AM in reply to: IndoIronYanti |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by IndoIronYanti Originally posted by Artemis Originally posted by IndoIronYanti That settles it...I'm going to visit Yanti. Where are you? It's been a rough week. Nursing what could become shin splints, my thyroid is whack-tastic again, and I'm tired. Way more details in my blog. I'm taking a Jantastic Joker this week. Here's my pro-boy Freddie Croneborg with Jojo's pro-boy Macca. And the Hungarian men's national OW team. You're welcome You gotta come over. I'm in Perth and K and I are at the Super Series, a pro swim meet--saw a truckload of Olympic champions today and a world record broken. I seriously saw some of the most amazing swimming I've ever seen in my life today and that includes the televised stuff. And for you, Wondermoose ... warm healing {MELON PRESS} and of course a moose kiss. You're in Perth! I thought that you were at the Funny Farm! I'm so confused... |
2014-01-31 10:26 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Champion 10550 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by IndoIronYanti Originally posted by Artemis Originally posted by IndoIronYanti That settles it...I'm going to visit Yanti. Where are you? It's been a rough week. Nursing what could become shin splints, my thyroid is whack-tastic again, and I'm tired. Way more details in my blog. I'm taking a Jantastic Joker this week. Here's my pro-boy Freddie Croneborg with Jojo's pro-boy Macca. And the Hungarian men's national OW team. You're welcome You gotta come over. I'm in Perth and K and I are at the Super Series, a pro swim meet--saw a truckload of Olympic champions today and a world record broken. I seriously saw some of the most amazing swimming I've ever seen in my life today and that includes the televised stuff. And for you, Wondermoose ... warm healing {MELON PRESS} and of course a moose kiss. You're in Perth! I thought that you were at the Funny Farm! I'm so confused... I thought she was at the Funny Farm too... what the heck?? |
2014-01-31 10:27 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Racing Manatees! February 1-2 |
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2014-01-31 10:32 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by jmkizer GO SPEED RACERS!!!!!!!!Heal up broken manatees!Racing Manatees! February 1-2 |
2014-01-31 10:39 AM in reply to: amd723 |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Question for those that use Power Meters or are able to measure such things and have made changes to cranks. Have you seen any correlation between crank length and PM numbers? I was thinking about leverage and such this week while working on the bike and I began to wonder what types of differences people are seeing with different crank lengths? It is not a big deal, just something that has been rolling around in my brain for a bit. Thanks! |
2014-01-31 10:48 AM in reply to: cdban66 |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) I don't like seeing anyone get hurt, but it can't help but think this was a bit of forest justice ( which is like street justice, just in a forest )!http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/01/31/wounded-deer-injures-hunter/5076957/ |
2014-01-31 10:57 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Go Katiefrog! |
2014-01-31 11:01 AM in reply to: IndoIronYanti |
Science Nerd 28760 Redwood City, California | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by IndoIronYanti Thanks, babe! Perth and Australia are totally on my bucket list. Maybe when E is older and can handle the flight (or we can leave her at grandma's house).Originally posted by Artemis Originally posted by IndoIronYanti That settles it...I'm going to visit Yanti. Where are you? It's been a rough week. Nursing what could become shin splints, my thyroid is whack-tastic again, and I'm tired. Way more details in my blog. I'm taking a Jantastic Joker this week. Here's my pro-boy Freddie Croneborg with Jojo's pro-boy Macca. And the Hungarian men's national OW team. You're welcome You gotta come over. I'm in Perth and K and I are at the Super Series, a pro swim meet--saw a truckload of Olympic champions today and a world record broken. I seriously saw some of the most amazing swimming I've ever seen in my life today and that includes the televised stuff. And for you, Wondermoose ... warm healing {MELON PRESS} and of course a moose kiss. |
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2014-01-31 11:15 AM in reply to: cdban66 |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by cdban66 Question for those that use Power Meters or are able to measure such things and have made changes to cranks. Have you seen any correlation between crank length and PM numbers? I was thinking about leverage and such this week while working on the bike and I began to wonder what types of differences people are seeing with different crank lengths? It is not a big deal, just something that has been rolling around in my brain for a bit. Thanks! I've only used one size with my powermeter, so not really direct experience. From reading though, there hasn't really been a good correlation of crank size to power. It's to how well they cranks fit with the particular rider. It's not a leverage thing, especially with gearing available. |
2014-01-31 11:44 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Champion 10550 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by jmkizer Racing Manatees! February 1-2 Awesome job with the colours, Janyne!! GO GO SPEEDY RACING MANATEES!!! Booo to the disabled list being longer than the racing list - heal up fast youse guys! |
2014-01-31 11:47 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by cdban66 Question for those that use Power Meters or are able to measure such things and have made changes to cranks. Have you seen any correlation between crank length and PM numbers? I was thinking about leverage and such this week while working on the bike and I began to wonder what types of differences people are seeing with different crank lengths? It is not a big deal, just something that has been rolling around in my brain for a bit. Thanks! I've only used one size with my powermeter, so not really direct experience. From reading though, there hasn't really been a good correlation of crank size to power. It's to how well they cranks fit with the particular rider. It's not a leverage thing, especially with gearing available. Hmmm, thanks, more to ponder. |
2014-01-31 1:48 PM in reply to: cdban66 |
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2014-01-31 2:01 PM in reply to: 0 |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by cdban66 Question for those that use Power Meters or are able to measure such things and have made changes to cranks. Have you seen any correlation between crank length and PM numbers? I was thinking about leverage and such this week while working on the bike and I began to wonder what types of differences people are seeing with different crank lengths? It is not a big deal, just something that has been rolling around in my brain for a bit. Thanks! I did some experimenting last year with shorter cranks. I tried 165 vs my normal 172.5. It didn't make a difference for me. The biggest advantage of shorter cranks is that it will open up your "closed hip angle" When you are pedalling IN AERO and coming over the top, from 12'oclock to 3o'clock, imagine if your seat was too low, you would have the feeling of getting the top of your leg in your gut. Even if your seat is set properly you may feel cramped here. This is where shorter cranks help. Because the crank is shorter the top of your leg does not come as high. On top of that, because the crank is shorter, the pedal isn't as low at 6 o'clock. So you can in fact raise your seat giving yourself even more room at the top of the pedal stroke. That is a crude explanation Basically if you are cramped at the top of the pedal stroke and losing power because of it, shorter cranks may help you. There are other side effects, benefits, disadvantages but the above is the big point as I understand it Edited by marcag 2014-01-31 2:05 PM |
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2014-01-31 2:16 PM in reply to: 0 |
Master 4452 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Afternoon, Manatees! Gooooooooo Racers! Gooooooooo Seahawks! Heaaaaaalll DL'ers! So I got in the pool this AM after missing Wed. I worked hard on Monday to figure out and fix what I was doing with my left arm. I don't remember if I posted about it, but figured out that I was lifting my head when breathing to the right, going off balance, and pressing down with my left, a habit I had broken last year. So today, I was in a lane with my pals Sean and Todd. And I was keeping up pretty well. So I decided to time one 100, just to see. Yep, 1:53. Woooohooooo! It is amazing that one little correction can make 10-15 seconds difference! Have a great weekend everyone and did I mention: Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo'Hawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwks! Edited by bcraht 2014-01-31 2:19 PM |
2014-01-31 3:12 PM in reply to: marcag |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by cdban66 I did some experimenting last year with shorter cranks. I tried 165 vs my normal 172.5. It didn't make a difference for me. The biggest advantage of shorter cranks is that it will open up your "closed hip angle" When you are pedalling IN AERO and coming over the top, from 12'oclock to 3o'clock, imagine if your seat was too low, you would have the feeling of getting the top of your leg in your gut. Even if your seat is set properly you may feel cramped here. This is where shorter cranks help. Because the crank is shorter the top of your leg does not come as high. On top of that, because the crank is shorter, the pedal isn't as low at 6 o'clock. So you can in fact raise your seat giving yourself even more room at the top of the pedal stroke. That is a crude explanation Basically if you are cramped at the top of the pedal stroke and losing power because of it, shorter cranks may help you. There are other side effects, benefits, disadvantages but the above is the big point as I understand it Question for those that use Power Meters or are able to measure such things and have made changes to cranks. Have you seen any correlation between crank length and PM numbers? I was thinking about leverage and such this week while working on the bike and I began to wonder what types of differences people are seeing with different crank lengths? It is not a big deal, just something that has been rolling around in my brain for a bit. Thanks! That makes sense as well. I was thinking that shorter cranks = higher seat due to the 6 o'clock position, but I hadn't thought about the gut. Which is odd, as I currently have a gut that is hard not to notice. |
2014-01-31 3:17 PM in reply to: bcraht |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by bcraht Wow, that is great improvement!Afternoon, Manatees! Gooooooooo Racers! Gooooooooo Seahawks! Heaaaaaalll DL'ers! So I got in the pool this AM after missing Wed. I worked hard on Monday to figure out and fix what I was doing with my left arm. I don't remember if I posted about it, but figured out that I was lifting my head when breathing to the right, going off balance, and pressing down with my left, a habit I had broken last year. So today, I was in a lane with my pals Sean and Todd. And I was keeping up pretty well. So I decided to time one 100, just to see. Yep, 1:53. Woooohooooo! It is amazing that one little correction can make 10-15 seconds difference! Have a great weekend everyone and did I mention: Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo'Hawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwks! |
2014-01-31 4:11 PM in reply to: 0 |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by cdban66 I did some experimenting last year with shorter cranks. I tried 165 vs my normal 172.5. It didn't make a difference for me. The biggest advantage of shorter cranks is that it will open up your "closed hip angle" When you are pedalling IN AERO and coming over the top, from 12'oclock to 3o'clock, imagine if your seat was too low, you would have the feeling of getting the top of your leg in your gut. Even if your seat is set properly you may feel cramped here. This is where shorter cranks help. Because the crank is shorter the top of your leg does not come as high. On top of that, because the crank is shorter, the pedal isn't as low at 6 o'clock. So you can in fact raise your seat giving yourself even more room at the top of the pedal stroke. That is a crude explanation Basically if you are cramped at the top of the pedal stroke and losing power because of it, shorter cranks may help you. There are other side effects, benefits, disadvantages but the above is the big point as I understand it Question for those that use Power Meters or are able to measure such things and have made changes to cranks. Have you seen any correlation between crank length and PM numbers? I was thinking about leverage and such this week while working on the bike and I began to wonder what types of differences people are seeing with different crank lengths? It is not a big deal, just something that has been rolling around in my brain for a bit. Thanks! That makes sense as well. I was thinking that shorter cranks = higher seat due to the 6 o'clock position, but I hadn't thought about the gut. Which is odd, as I currently have a gut that is hard not to notice. If your cockpit is up high, your closed hip angle is larger and you have more room. But with shorter cranks you can lower the front end. You can raise the seat, lower the front end therefore making yourself more aero, as your torso flattens out or becomes more parrallel to ground. this is your closed hip angle Edited by marcag 2014-01-31 4:23 PM |
2014-01-31 9:50 PM in reply to: IndoIronYanti |
Expert 1038 Noosa | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by IndoIronYanti Sorry to let the side down but I went for an early morning ride and encountered really strong headwinds and felt smashed afterwards so skipped the swim... I went past the beach and the surf was big, I didn't feel up to a tough swim today. There's another one in 2 weeks in Mooloolaba. Go Katiefrog! |
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2014-02-01 12:40 AM in reply to: copa2251 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by copa2251 Originally posted by IndoIronYanti Sorry to let the side down but I went for an early morning ride and encountered really strong headwinds and felt smashed afterwards so skipped the swim... I went past the beach and the surf was big, I didn't feel up to a tough swim today. There's another one in 2 weeks in Mooloolaba. Go Katiefrog! GOOOO was for the early morning ride with headwinds then, so CONGRATS and well done. It's all right, you're still our feisty Cabana Boy |
2014-02-01 11:09 AM in reply to: marcag |
Master 2642 Bloomington, MN | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by cdban66 If your cockpit is up high, your closed hip angle is larger and you have more room. But with shorter cranks you can lower the front end. You can raise the seat, lower the front end therefore making yourself more aero, as your torso flattens out or becomes more parrallel to ground. this is your closed hip angle Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by cdban66 I did some experimenting last year with shorter cranks. I tried 165 vs my normal 172.5. It didn't make a difference for me. The biggest advantage of shorter cranks is that it will open up your "closed hip angle" When you are pedalling IN AERO and coming over the top, from 12'oclock to 3o'clock, imagine if your seat was too low, you would have the feeling of getting the top of your leg in your gut. Even if your seat is set properly you may feel cramped here. This is where shorter cranks help. Because the crank is shorter the top of your leg does not come as high. On top of that, because the crank is shorter, the pedal isn't as low at 6 o'clock. So you can in fact raise your seat giving yourself even more room at the top of the pedal stroke. That is a crude explanation Basically if you are cramped at the top of the pedal stroke and losing power because of it, shorter cranks may help you. There are other side effects, benefits, disadvantages but the above is the big point as I understand it Question for those that use Power Meters or are able to measure such things and have made changes to cranks. Have you seen any correlation between crank length and PM numbers? I was thinking about leverage and such this week while working on the bike and I began to wonder what types of differences people are seeing with different crank lengths? It is not a big deal, just something that has been rolling around in my brain for a bit. Thanks! That makes sense as well. I was thinking that shorter cranks = higher seat due to the 6 o'clock position, but I hadn't thought about the gut. Which is odd, as I currently have a gut that is hard not to notice.
this is a great discussion. I am looking for a used PM right now as well. One of my considerations is shorter cranks. Do you think going from 175 to 172.5 will make much of a difference or should I go to 170? My P2 came stock with 175 and frankly, I didn't even consider crank light. I am not the most flexible person, so; I think I could benefit from shorter cranks. |
2014-02-02 9:52 AM in reply to: Buckshot |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by Buckshot this is a great discussion. I am looking for a used PM right now as well. One of my considerations is shorter cranks. Do you think going from 175 to 172.5 will make much of a difference or should I go to 170? My P2 came stock with 175 and frankly, I didn't even consider crank light. I am not the most flexible person, so; I think I could benefit from shorter cranks. Some people looooove shorter, some say they found no difference. 175 to 172.5 I doubt you will be able to tell the difference. 175 to 170 maybe. You will need to raise your seat 5mm. I tried 172.5 to 165 and I think I could feel the difference but it was really marginal for me. If I had to buy new cranks tomorrow I would probably go shorter (165) but I would not go out and spend money just to go shorter. If looking for a new PM it may be worth considering. Recently I had an opportunity to go 2.5mm shorter and it would have cost me $150. Not worth it for me. I also believe that shorter cranks will make you "spin" a little more. For me that's ok, I like high RPM. |
2014-02-02 9:55 AM in reply to: marcag |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) we got a foot of snow dumped on us so I will wait before going for a run instead I played "bury the puppy in the snow" (IMG_0636.jpg) Attachments ---------------- IMG_0636.jpg (1893KB - 4 downloads) |
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