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2012-09-05 9:41 AM
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Just checked the long range forecast, and the high for Sunday is only supposed to be about 20C (68F).  After such a hot summer this is going to feel a bit strange.

At that temperature (likely in the low 60's when I get out of the water), would you consider putting on arm warmers?  I know my trisuit will be wet, but there's not much I can about that. 



2012-09-05 9:59 AM
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GoFaster - 2012-09-05 11:41 AM

Just checked the long range forecast, and the high for Sunday is only supposed to be about 20C (68F).  After such a hot summer this is going to feel a bit strange.

At that temperature (likely in the low 60's when I get out of the water), would you consider putting on arm warmers?  I know my trisuit will be wet, but there's not much I can about that. 

That's pretty similar to IMMT, high of 20ish and low teens when we got out of the water.  I wore arm warmers and was glad I did but by about half way through the first loop I would have taken them off were I skilled enough to do so without stopping.  

2012-09-05 10:06 AM
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GoFaster - 2012-09-05 10:41 AM

Just checked the long range forecast, and the high for Sunday is only supposed to be about 20C (68F).  After such a hot summer this is going to feel a bit strange.

At that temperature (likely in the low 60's when I get out of the water), would you consider putting on arm warmers?  I know my trisuit will be wet, but there's not much I can about that. 

I'd have them rolled up and ready, and just make the decision in T1.

I would likely wear them, but after 2 years in FL and 6 months in AZ, I'm a weenie when it comes to the cold.

2012-09-05 10:13 AM
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2012-09-05 11:07 AM
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TSimone - 2012-09-05 5:13 AM Question about the disc cover. Right now the forecast has a 13 mph wind from the north. That will give us a cross wind for about 13 miles on the south side of the loop and 6 ish miles on the north side of the loop, which we will do twice (2 loop course). Do I consider taking off the disc cover or is that no big deal?

And X2 on Neil's temp question. Low 60's on the bike start for me, too. I'd rather tough that out but how bad will it be, especially with that wind?

13 mph shouldn't be an issue.  I've used my disc cover in winds up to 20+ during a team TT where we were drafting.  If anything, the disc should make you feel much more stable.  Where it gets a little sketchy is if there are very strong gusts.  If the wind is steady, you just lean a little more.

2012-09-05 11:15 AM
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tri808 - 2012-09-05 1:07 PM

TSimone - 2012-09-05 5:13 AM Question about the disc cover. Right now the forecast has a 13 mph wind from the north. That will give us a cross wind for about 13 miles on the south side of the loop and 6 ish miles on the north side of the loop, which we will do twice (2 loop course). Do I consider taking off the disc cover or is that no big deal?

And X2 on Neil's temp question. Low 60's on the bike start for me, too. I'd rather tough that out but how bad will it be, especially with that wind?

13 mph shouldn't be an issue.  I've used my disc cover in winds up to 20+ during a team TT where we were drafting.  If anything, the disc should make you feel much more stable.  Where it gets a little sketchy is if there are very strong gusts.  If the wind is steady, you just lean a little more.

Yeah, I've ridden with my disc cover in some pretty strong cross winds and never felt that the cover had a serious impact on handling.  I would leave it on for sure.



2012-09-05 11:26 AM
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2012-09-05 11:46 AM
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GoFaster - 2012-09-05 7:41 AM

Just checked the long range forecast, and the high for Sunday is only supposed to be about 20C (68F).  After such a hot summer this is going to feel a bit strange.

At that temperature (likely in the low 60's when I get out of the water), would you consider putting on arm warmers?  I know my trisuit will be wet, but there's not much I can about that. 

Personal choice, but no, would not wear them in the 60s, as it's likely to get mid hi 60s by the end of the bike.   I run hot, however, last year at Oceanside lo 60s and misty was perfect for me (although I did wear arm warmers due to the mist)

2012-09-05 12:02 PM
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TSimone - 2012-09-06 12:26 AM Thanks guys. I'm starting to obsess a little. Nerves....

Normal. Perhaps even necessary. But nevertheless unfounded.

I know you got banged up and are not quite as prepared as you'd like in terms of the last few weeks, but you're awesome.

2012-09-05 1:17 PM
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GoFaster - 2012-09-05 10:41 AM

Just checked the long range forecast, and the high for Sunday is only supposed to be about 20C (68F).  After such a hot summer this is going to feel a bit strange.

At that temperature (likely in the low 60's when I get out of the water), would you consider putting on arm warmers?  I know my trisuit will be wet, but there's not much I can about that. 

I'd have them rolled up and ready, and just make the decision in T1.

I would likely wear them, but after 2 years in FL and 6 months in AZ, I'm a weenie when it comes to the cold.

Agree - bring them and have them in transition so you can decide on the day. 

I did that when I did Muskoka two years ago and I was happy to have them.  I did a similar thing for IMMT but I didn't want to lose my nice arm warmers so i just bought tube socks from Giant Tiger and cut open the toes. I wore those for a good portion of the ride and tosseed them at an aid station once the day was warm enough ...

 

2012-09-05 1:19 PM
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Hey guys- i am visiting lazyville currently and logging a lot of yellow squares.  I do however plan to run tonight.  Log some easy kilometers to get my base back up.  I am mulling over a strategy of spending a couple of months focusing on bike speed followed by some time focused on run speed ... but no decisions yet. I just need to be logging some time right now.


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axteraa - 2012-09-05 6:28 AM

Right before IMMT I noticed that my rear brake was barely re-opening after use and would occasionally rub against the wheel.  It wasn't a stuck cable as I could release it and the brake calipers still didn't open well.  I took it to the bike techs  at the race site and they were able to get it working well enough to race with but still not great.  A couple of the guys there said that the Cervelo brakes weren't very good and the springs all eventually went bad.

So, long story short, can anyone make a recommendation on replacement brakes?  I know very little about them.  Other than the Omega center pull ones look cool!  

 

Those same guys (Cycle technique) told me the same thing and suggested Ultegra brakes.

2012-09-05 1:33 PM
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GoFaster - 2012-09-05 10:41 AM

Just checked the long range forecast, and the high for Sunday is only supposed to be about 20C (68F).  After such a hot summer this is going to feel a bit strange.

At that temperature (likely in the low 60's when I get out of the water), would you consider putting on arm warmers?  I know my trisuit will be wet, but there's not much I can about that. 

Yeah I am racing this weekend too (again!) and going from one extreme to the other.  I have raced in mid-high 50 degree temps in a tri suit and was fine with nothing on the arms.  This will likely be perfect race conditions for me.  So my advice would be to wear nothing additional.

2012-09-05 1:37 PM
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I am headed off on vacation to Lake Huron and area with not the greatest mobile coverage.  Looking forward to a relaxing long weekend with the wife and peanut....and a triathlon .

Good luck to Tom and Neil this weekend.  Hope you guys do great!  Have an awesome race!

2012-09-05 1:39 PM
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rymac - 2012-09-06 2:37 AM

I am headed off on vacation to Lake Huron and area with not the greatest mobile coverage.  Looking forward to a relaxing long weekend with the wife and peanut....and a triathlon .

Good luck to Tom and Neil this weekend.  Hope you guys do great!  Have an awesome race!

GO RYAN!

And have a great holiday!

2012-09-05 2:02 PM
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GoFaster - 2012-09-05 3:41 PM

Just checked the long range forecast, and the high for Sunday is only supposed to be about 20C (68F).  After such a hot summer this is going to feel a bit strange.

At that temperature (likely in the low 60's when I get out of the water), would you consider putting on arm warmers?  I know my trisuit will be wet, but there's not much I can about that. 

The temperature during the bike section of my race on Sunday was 60-64f and overcast and I was fine in just a trisuit.


2012-09-05 2:05 PM
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Only tri related in that I will be putting bikes on the thing...  my new tri ride 

2012-09-05 2:05 PM
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http://beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=459416&posts=1&start=1

The Rev3 Maine Race Report is up.

I know I'm on the team, but they do a seriously awesome job. If they're in your area, go race. The $10 post-race Lobster bake was delicious.

A guy got his bike stolen from the expo, and Rev3 offered to lend him a Quintana Roo for the race and for a few weeks afterwards until he was able to replace his bike. Luckily, the bike was found - some dude was trying to sell it (a Shiv) for $200 - and someone alerted the police.

2012-09-05 3:08 PM
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ChrisM - 2012-09-05 9:05 AM

Only tri related in that I will be putting bikes on the thing...  my new tri ride 

Nice...

I guess all those commercials during the NBC Kona broadcast worked. 

2012-09-05 3:34 PM
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ChrisM - 2012-09-05 9:05 AM

Only tri related in that I will be putting bikes on the thing...  my new tri ride 

Nice...

I guess all those commercials during the NBC Kona broadcast worked. 

I was gonna say: Does Chris Lieto come with the car?

Nice ride BTW!

2012-09-05 3:54 PM
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Thanks for all the feedback - I'm usually the guy who overheats in the winter, and suffers in the summer, so like Tom I think I'm starting to stress about the little things.

On a side note, I tried to put my Conti 4000 onto the borrowed 404 last night and had to give up after 30min.  After all the tire changes I've done this was one of my most frustrating experiences ever.  I've had the tire sitting in the sun all day to give it another go when I get home - other wise I'm using the hair dryer this time.



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2012-09-05 8:58 PM
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I ultimately had to use a hair dryer + tire lever.  Think my thumbs will take a few days to heal...but at least I finally got the damn thing on.
2012-09-05 10:47 PM
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I was going to post this in TT, but I didn't feel like getting flammed before getting a feel for what others thing.

The compact vs. standard debate comes up all the time.  I agree with Fred that only the top 5% of bikers (in general) should be riding standard.  But I'm not even sure that the other 95% should be riding compact.

I have standard on my tri bike because that's what it came with, but I would change it to compact if given the option.  I consider myself a FOP cyclist, and if I'm choosing to run compact, what are the cyclists who ride 20-30% slower than me supposed to use? 

Should it be something like

Top 5% Standard
Next 25% Compact
Bottom 70% Triple?

Knowing what I know about gearing, if I was a MOP/BOP cyclist, I would definately run a 52/39/30 crank with a 12/25 cassette.  Check out the gear spacing...I think it would be very beneficial to a lot of cyclists.

Thoughts?

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tri808 - 2012-09-05 8:47 PM

I was going to post this in TT, but I didn't feel like getting flammed before getting a feel for what others thing.

The compact vs. standard debate comes up all the time.  I agree with Fred that only the top 5% of bikers (in general) should be riding standard.  But I'm not even sure that the other 95% should be riding compact.

I have standard on my tri bike because that's what it came with, but I would change it to compact if given the option.  I consider myself a FOP cyclist, and if I'm choosing to run compact, what are the cyclists who ride 20-30% slower than me supposed to use? 

Should it be something like

Top 5% Standard
Next 25% Compact
Bottom 70% Triple?

Knowing what I know about gearing, if I was a MOP/BOP cyclist, I would definately run a 52/39/30 crank with a 12/25 cassette.  Check out the gear spacing...I think it would be very beneficial to a lot of cyclists.

Thoughts?

I'm decent on the bike and lightweight but not top 5%.  But I ride standard.  Prob about 3.5 w/kg when I'm healthy -- and still improving.  My comfortable cadence is 80 and I've never encountered a hill on a tri course that made me wish for more gears.  Sure I might change my tune about Savageman or St. Croix but I have no plans to ride those in the near future.

The deciding factor for me was my intended bike usage.  I ride occasional time trial events and compact just doesn't make sense for those -- for a guy, anyhow.

A lot of times this question comes up from women and frankly, I can't think of any I know who ride standard.  Not to sound like a sexist answer but it's just a reality for smaller riders.



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