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Note to self.  Quassy is a really hard bike course if it takes Rudy 2:44!

Sorry Neil - I assumed that since you were worrying about your pace that you did not use heart rate. HR is the best proxy for effort there is, especially on the longer stuff. I like numbers too, but if you jump around between input and output without a plan (HR is input, pace is output), you can really get messed up. In longer races I tend to use output at the beginning (sort of as a brake to make sure I am going easy enough) and then switch to input once I get settled in, adrenaline and anxiety is taken care of, etc.

Yeah, the hills really weren't *that* bad. Just a lot of them, so it's more being set up for it and understanding how to manage them. Truly getting over the mental hurdle of never getting a break from them can go a long way. I never used the 28t and only used the 25t a little bit. And plan on being out there a bit longer.

Sadly, my pm battery died in the first couple miles, so don't have any data for that.

If you believe the HR monitor was working either. And that I'm part hummingbird since HR recorded as well over 200 the entire time.

Best guess on TSS was over 160, but under 180. Without the PM, I *tried* going something like long ride effort (like 5 hr long ride) based on RPE and since it was a race, was probably just over that.

Nothing particualrly special about the race, simply that I haven't run a HM in 3 years, and am struggling to evaluate my pacing.  Last time I ran 1 :33, but went out planning to run a 1:37, needed a restroom break and then motored back up to the group I was with by following a faster runner who started further back, then I just stayed with the faster guy for a while and crushed my goal time.

I'm just playing head games with myself at this point.  I like your suggestion, and it lines up with Rusty's input/output comment, although I know that my HR will likely stay elevated during the race as that's what normally happens to me on race day and I have to remind myself that true effort is likely 5bpm or more below what is displaying.

Ha, well I had to go bak to Rudy's quassy race report to see what the fuss was all about.  Is this the bike route description from the athletes' guide???

"4300 feet of go f$*% yourself if you cannot climb. At race pace this is the toughest 56 mile ride i had ever done...EVER maybe one of the hardest rides period."

Whoever said installing a Wheelbuilder Aerojacket was easy was a f*&%ing liar.  My thumbs are both raw from trying to push those stupid fasteners together.  That is all....

They don't screw together anymore?

Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by ligersandtions

Whoever said installing a Wheelbuilder Aerojacket was easy was a f*&%ing liar.  My thumbs are both raw from trying to push those stupid fasteners together.  That is all....

They don't screw together anymore?

The one I just ordered for my 404 rear this year still uses screws.  I usually use a couple of nickels or quarters to screw them together.

Originally posted by ChrisM

Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by ligersandtions

Whoever said installing a Wheelbuilder Aerojacket was easy was a f*&%ing liar.  My thumbs are both raw from trying to push those stupid fasteners together.  That is all....

They don't screw together anymore?

Wheelbuilder says to push them together to install, unscrew to uninstall. Nicole, I hear ya. Next time get a small towel on each side, protects the thumbs a bit

That's what I get for reading and following the instructions -- specifically says to push them together and not to screw them.  A towel would have been a good idea....because the blunt end of two screwdrivers was not!

Okay, had some more drama with the disc cover (that's what I get for waiting till one week before the race to install it....).  How much of a difference do you think having a disc cover versus just the Flo 60 rear wheel will make on a course like St. George?

What's the drama?

Aero trumps weight always, even at St. George.

What's the issue?

eta couple good links

ride a disc

aero trumps weight

I ran the course through Best Bike Split using my bike profile with my bike setup with a disc and then with a 60 rear and while the disc was always faster, the difference was anywhere between 3 and about 20 seconds depending on wind conditions.  The more wind there was, the more the difference.  

Oh and the course seems to be much faster with a SE wind so cross your fingers for that.

It does, but at the same time I think it's good to remember that it's not really going to make or break a race for the vast majority of participants. It just gets them through a bit faster.

I know aero trumps weight....but good to know it's only a difference of a matter of seconds (I'm not going for a podium slot here....my run will ensure that!).  

The problem is that the valve opening is not large enough to get a pump in there and I don't have (or even know what it is or how it works or where to get) a crack pipe.  I know someone whose valve opening was big enough without making any changes to it, so I assumed mine would be too....it was not, and I busted the stem on the valve trying to force it this morning, and ended up having to do a rush removal as I was holding up a group ride.

So now it's a matter of trying to decide if it's worth figuring out where to get and how to use a crack pipe, re-installing that thing (maybe it'll go better the second time around!?!?), and then using it for the first time on the day of the race (nothing new on race day....hah!).  It did look nice on there, but I lack the DIY/handy gene! 

anyway, Nicole, some pump heads will fit into the opening as well as openings on wheels like the HED3. Unfortunately mine does not so I have to use a crack pipe which frankly can be a pita, especially if using someone else's pump that you are not familiar with. For example my crack pipe hasn't worked with the pumps that the Tri bike transport folks bring. You can also buy a pump replacement head tha will work, google that I don't have the link. So if you haven't used it a few times id recommend against it. However, your C02 cartridge system may fit in there so might want to check that out

You can buy the crack pipe from wheelbuilder and my experience is you'll get iron a couple days. But if you are buying one, I read that this is the one to get. I will be gettin this one at some point. (Linking the thread because it has good instructions. ). http://forum.slowtwitch.com/cgi-bin/gforum.cgi?post=5055960;search_...

Edited by ChrisM 2014-04-26 5:52 PM

I bought that ^^^ because I found the crack pipe annoying.  I haven't tried it yet!

Ok, I went and tried it and it worked great.  Pressed it on and inflated a tire up to 110.  

It's not cheap but no more one handed crack pipe pump ups for me!

apologies for spelling etc above. iPhone and all....

You really start appreciating the mechanical advantage some pumps offer over others in situations like this. Anyway, I've started using my big toe to hold it down.

I have the one from wheel builder now, but will likely get the silca one sometime.