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 2014-03-04 1:16 PM in reply to: 0 |
Master  9705     Raleigh, NC area |  Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work)Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by melbo55 Help me please, oh wise manatees. I've been trying to import a free training plan into my training log which I thought was possible. Being able to modify it requires a paid plan, I know, but it won't let me just move the plan into my log. Am I incorrect about being able to move a free plan? Edited to add 'please'. Forgive my temporary rudeness, I was taught better than that! I haven't found a way to import a plan into a free account. It just seems to always bring me to the "Upgrade" page, which just frustrates me, since that is not really the definition of "Free". Another reason I am beginning to get more frustrated with BT in general. If it weren't for this group, I would simply abandon BT and just use Strava or Training Peaks. Of course, that is the only compelling reason I can find to keep using BT, the social aspect. I have met and "met" some really wonderful people that have opened my eyes in a number of ways. And for that I thank you all!! ETA: This is not sour grapes on my part, just my observations and my outlook on it. What else are you frustrated about on BT? After the long post about the decline ... I am curious if people feel it is improving or if that conversation helped at all. I don't think it helped much. I think all things in life have an ebb and flow, an evolution if you will. For me (and I can't stress this enough, it is ONLY my thoughts) there is only so much need that I have for the site. I try to assist those in the group as I can, with support, kindness, and such. But outside of the mentor groups, I see the same answers being given. Case in point is a bike question that someone had earlier this week. Rather than answer the question, the OP was told to get a fitting, get a new bike and then a disagreement between 2 folks that had no bearing on the original questions. nor were the parts of his question that directly stated where he was and what his objectives are. As I write this out it occurs to me that I need to go back and reply. Done. To answer the actual question, and none of these are big deals at all in and of themselves:
Please don't misunderstand, I'm not to the point of leaving, or even close to it. But I can see the little frustrations here and there. I'm also pretty frustrated. Things do evolve and I don't think that the site change added anything but window dressing. For example, people have been asking for FitBit type data to be in the logs since forever (while the redesign was being discussed). Not there. Little stuff that was broken or not well thought out or we were told "if this doesn't work, we'll change it." None of that has been fixed. I'm not about to leave but I am to the point that I can understand why others have left. So your concerns seem to be pretty firmly on the technical side. I'm guessing they don't have the bandwidth to make it perfect. Is this something you know how to do? Maybe you could volunteer some time? I don't know how that all works. Gosh no! Not a bandwidth issue at all. Fix the stupid CSS already! It's been broken since they "fixed" it in December. Make the colors on the charts and in the "improved" training logs matchy as was requested last summer. All those extra screens that we said that we didn't want, get rid of at least some of them. Stuff that we mentioned that was problematic in the beta -- address it! Edited by jmkizer 2014-03-04 1:17 PM |
| 2014-03-04 1:24 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by melbo55 Help me please, oh wise manatees. I've been trying to import a free training plan into my training log which I thought was possible. Being able to modify it requires a paid plan, I know, but it won't let me just move the plan into my log. Am I incorrect about being able to move a free plan? Edited to add 'please'. Forgive my temporary rudeness, I was taught better than that! I haven't found a way to import a plan into a free account. It just seems to always bring me to the "Upgrade" page, which just frustrates me, since that is not really the definition of "Free". Another reason I am beginning to get more frustrated with BT in general. If it weren't for this group, I would simply abandon BT and just use Strava or Training Peaks. Of course, that is the only compelling reason I can find to keep using BT, the social aspect. I have met and "met" some really wonderful people that have opened my eyes in a number of ways. And for that I thank you all!! ETA: This is not sour grapes on my part, just my observations and my outlook on it. What else are you frustrated about on BT? After the long post about the decline ... I am curious if people feel it is improving or if that conversation helped at all. I don't think it helped much. I think all things in life have an ebb and flow, an evolution if you will. For me (and I can't stress this enough, it is ONLY my thoughts) there is only so much need that I have for the site. I try to assist those in the group as I can, with support, kindness, and such. But outside of the mentor groups, I see the same answers being given. Case in point is a bike question that someone had earlier this week. Rather than answer the question, the OP was told to get a fitting, get a new bike and then a disagreement between 2 folks that had no bearing on the original questions. nor were the parts of his question that directly stated where he was and what his objectives are. As I write this out it occurs to me that I need to go back and reply. Done. To answer the actual question, and none of these are big deals at all in and of themselves:
Please don't misunderstand, I'm not to the point of leaving, or even close to it. But I can see the little frustrations here and there. I'm also pretty frustrated. Things do evolve and I don't think that the site change added anything but window dressing. For example, people have been asking for FitBit type data to be in the logs since forever (while the redesign was being discussed). Not there. Little stuff that was broken or not well thought out or we were told "if this doesn't work, we'll change it." None of that has been fixed. I'm not about to leave but I am to the point that I can understand why others have left. So your concerns seem to be pretty firmly on the technical side. I'm guessing they don't have the bandwidth to make it perfect. Is this something you know how to do? Maybe you could volunteer some time? I don't know how that all works. Gosh no! Not a bandwidth issue at all. Fix the stupid CSS already! It's been broken since they "fixed" it in December. Make the colors on the charts and in the "improved" training logs matchy as was requested last summer. All those extra screens that we said that we didn't want, get rid of at least some of them. Stuff that we mentioned that was problematic in the beta -- address it! No, I mean the BT bandwidth, the amount of time they have to work on this stuff. I am guessing they don't have the funds or capacity. |
| 2014-03-04 1:28 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by melbo55 Help me please, oh wise manatees. I've been trying to import a free training plan into my training log which I thought was possible. Being able to modify it requires a paid plan, I know, but it won't let me just move the plan into my log. Am I incorrect about being able to move a free plan? Edited to add 'please'. Forgive my temporary rudeness, I was taught better than that! I haven't found a way to import a plan into a free account. It just seems to always bring me to the "Upgrade" page, which just frustrates me, since that is not really the definition of "Free". Another reason I am beginning to get more frustrated with BT in general. If it weren't for this group, I would simply abandon BT and just use Strava or Training Peaks. Of course, that is the only compelling reason I can find to keep using BT, the social aspect. I have met and "met" some really wonderful people that have opened my eyes in a number of ways. And for that I thank you all!! ETA: This is not sour grapes on my part, just my observations and my outlook on it. What else are you frustrated about on BT? After the long post about the decline ... I am curious if people feel it is improving or if that conversation helped at all. I don't think it helped much. I think all things in life have an ebb and flow, an evolution if you will. For me (and I can't stress this enough, it is ONLY my thoughts) there is only so much need that I have for the site. I try to assist those in the group as I can, with support, kindness, and such. But outside of the mentor groups, I see the same answers being given. Case in point is a bike question that someone had earlier this week. Rather than answer the question, the OP was told to get a fitting, get a new bike and then a disagreement between 2 folks that had no bearing on the original questions. nor were the parts of his question that directly stated where he was and what his objectives are. As I write this out it occurs to me that I need to go back and reply. Done. To answer the actual question, and none of these are big deals at all in and of themselves:
Please don't misunderstand, I'm not to the point of leaving, or even close to it. But I can see the little frustrations here and there. I'm also pretty frustrated. Things do evolve and I don't think that the site change added anything but window dressing. For example, people have been asking for FitBit type data to be in the logs since forever (while the redesign was being discussed). Not there. Little stuff that was broken or not well thought out or we were told "if this doesn't work, we'll change it." None of that has been fixed. I'm not about to leave but I am to the point that I can understand why others have left. So your concerns seem to be pretty firmly on the technical side. I'm guessing they don't have the bandwidth to make it perfect. Is this something you know how to do? Maybe you could volunteer some time? I don't know how that all works. Gosh no! Not a bandwidth issue at all. Fix the stupid CSS already! It's been broken since they "fixed" it in December. Make the colors on the charts and in the "improved" training logs matchy as was requested last summer. All those extra screens that we said that we didn't want, get rid of at least some of them. Stuff that we mentioned that was problematic in the beta -- address it! No, I mean the BT bandwidth, the amount of time they have to work on this stuff. I am guessing they don't have the funds or capacity. Oh that. Yes. I have the impression that they had contractors working on the redesign and they declared victory when the contract ended which is why the stuff that we pointed out in the beta was not address. The beta was more, yup, you can log in. Moving on now... |
| 2014-03-04 1:34 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 6834  Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Adrienne, I am always open to being called out. And your point has merit, we must be the change we want to see in the world. So, I'll keep gently, kindly answering. I did go back to the case I pointed out and answered while I was mulling over your question, so thanks. I do agree with Janyne as well in that there were things we did during testing that pointed out some issues and they were not addressed. But I do understand as well how much is on Ron's plate and how this can all be overwhelming trying to please everyone all the time. And you can add the reports to my list. I have been unable to find ones that I would find beneficial. But, kinda like my whining, some of that is on me. I have to get a better handle on what I need, but I have been unable to find anything that might be helpful in the reports so far. Time for more research on this on my part. |
| 2014-03-04 1:56 PM in reply to: TriAya |
Science Nerd 28760 Redwood City, California | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Hiya Manatees!! Want to help a fellow Manatee win a gift certificate for free cycling clothes? I'm in Road Holland's Worst Cycling Kit contest as "Where are my sleeves". I'd love to get some new cycling clothes, so please vote for me!! Clearly, I have no pride, so any and all help for votes would be appreciated. |
| 2014-03-04 1:57 PM in reply to: bcraht |
Science Nerd 28760 Redwood City, California | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) |
| 2014-03-04 2:03 PM in reply to: Artemis |
Master 4452 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by Artemis Hiya Manatees!! Want to help a fellow Manatee win a gift certificate for free cycling clothes? I'm in Road Holland's Worst Cycling Kit contest as "Where are my sleeves". I'd love to get some new cycling clothes, so please vote for me!! Clearly, I have no pride, so any and all help for votes would be appreciated. Done! |
| 2014-03-04 2:04 PM in reply to: Artemis |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by Artemis Hiya Manatees!! Want to help a fellow Manatee win a gift certificate for free cycling clothes? I'm in Road Holland's Worst Cycling Kit contest as "Where are my sleeves". I'd love to get some new cycling clothes, so please vote for me!! Clearly, I have no pride, so any and all help for votes would be appreciated. Done. Seems to me some of those weren't all that bad. Maybe I need to be worried about my riding clothes... |
| 2014-03-04 2:11 PM in reply to: rrrunner |
Science Nerd 28760 Redwood City, California | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by Artemis Hiya Manatees!! Want to help a fellow Manatee win a gift certificate for free cycling clothes? I'm in Road Holland's Worst Cycling Kit contest as "Where are my sleeves". I'd love to get some new cycling clothes, so please vote for me!! Clearly, I have no pride, so any and all help for votes would be appreciated. Done. Seems to me some of those weren't all that bad. Maybe I need to be worried about my riding clothes... Thanks everyone! I don't think some are so bad. Then again, we are used to Yanti pictures. |
| 2014-03-04 2:42 PM in reply to: 0 |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Hmmmm, so Chris and Janyne, are you guys paying members? I think there are certain features one should expect if you are paying. Other than that, I guess BT doesn't really owe us much. But I guess that brings me to the question that you guys were likely alluding to. How does BT fit into our lives and what, eh, void does it fill? And that's going to be pretty individual with lots of crossover.
First and foremost I use it as a training log. It's easy to go back and look and it tracks my monthly/yearly volume. I don't need much more than that. I don't upload from a device or anything (waaay out of my expertise heh) Second is the mentor forum, where I am able to ask questions. I only default to the mentor forum for this because I often get ignored in TT (and still do in the mentor forums occasionally This stuff, to me, all seems to work moderately well. I think the biggest thing I feel is lacking is engagement. I think more people need to contribute in order for the site to be successful and I am not sure why that doesn't happen. Edited by Asalzwed 2014-03-04 2:46 PM |
| 2014-03-04 2:56 PM in reply to: 0 |
Science Nerd 28760 Redwood City, California | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by Asalzwed Hmmmm, so Chris and Janyne, are you guys paying members? I think there are certain features one should expect if you are paying. Other than that, I guess BT doesn't really owe us much. But I guess that brings me to the question that you guys were likely alluding to. How does BT fit into our lives and what, eh, void does it fill? And that's going to be pretty individual with lots of crossover.
First and foremost I use it as a training log. It's easy to go back and look and it tracks my monthly/yearly volume. I don't need much more than that. I don't upload from a device or anything (waaay out of my expertise heh) Second is the mentor forum, where I am able to ask questions. I only default to the mentor forum for this because I often get ignored in TT (and still do in the mentor forums occasionally This stuff, to me, all seems to work moderately well. I think the biggest thing I feel is lacking is engagement. I think more people need to contribute in order for the site to be successful and I am not sure why that doesn't happen. Before the update, it was a lot easier to connect to other members and see what was going on. It's a PITA to get to someone's log now!! And I still don't know if there is a BT Blogger. Plus, I think that a lot of people have been turned off of using the site. It's clunky and doesn't work right. If I pay and can't import a plan and do the things that are advertised, I'm not going to keep using a website. I'm certainly not going to renew. It's a lot of little things that cause annoyance. Entering a workout and updating my blog take too many steps now, so I do it less. I pay and that means I'm not supposed to see ads (at least it used to). Now they are all over. I don't want to spend time on a site when it's clear that "improvements" didn't help anything, and I spent time beta testing for nothing. Edited by Artemis 2014-03-04 2:59 PM |
| 2014-03-04 3:01 PM in reply to: Artemis |
| Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by Artemis Hiya Manatees!! Want to help a fellow Manatee win a gift certificate for free cycling clothes? I'm in Road Holland's Worst Cycling Kit contest as "Where are my sleeves". I'd love to get some new cycling clothes, so please vote for me!! Clearly, I have no pride, so any and all help for votes would be appreciated. Vote is in, although I really do dig those arm warmers. I have an argyle pair that clash with just about any jersey I put on. I'd post the pic but it's on my old phone. Oh yeah, in other news, I finally joined 2014, got an iPhone 5s and dumped my ol' 2009 Crackberry. R.I.P. she was a good phone. |
| 2014-03-04 3:02 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by Asalzwed Hmmmm, so Chris and Janyne, are you guys paying members? I think there are certain features one should expect if you are paying. Other than that, I guess BT doesn't really owe us much. But I guess that brings me to the question that you guys were likely alluding to. How does BT fit into our lives and what, eh, void does it fill? And that's going to be pretty individual with lots of crossover.
First and foremost I use it as a training log. It's easy to go back and look and it tracks my monthly/yearly volume. I don't need much more than that. I don't upload from a device or anything (waaay out of my expertise heh) Second is the mentor forum, where I am able to ask questions. I only default to the mentor forum for this because I often get ignored in TT (and still do in the mentor forums occasionally This stuff, to me, all seems to work moderately well. I think the biggest thing I feel is lacking is engagement. I think more people need to contribute in order for the site to be successful and I am not sure why that doesn't happen. I'm not, and as such, I have limited expectations. However, the flip side of that is that traffic = advertising $'s (although I'm sure that isn't a lot), so either way my presence has value from a dollar perspective. I kind of wonder about the engagement question. I have to think on that (and my boss seems to think I should be working right now.) I'll get back to ya! |
| 2014-03-04 3:12 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Veteran 2842 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by Asalzwed Hmmmm, so Chris and Janyne, are you guys paying members? I think there are certain features one should expect if you are paying. Other than that, I guess BT doesn't really owe us much. But I guess that brings me to the question that you guys were likely alluding to. How does BT fit into our lives and what, eh, void does it fill? And that's going to be pretty individual with lots of crossover.
First and foremost I use it as a training log. It's easy to go back and look and it tracks my monthly/yearly volume. I don't need much more than that. I don't upload from a device or anything (waaay out of my expertise heh) Second is the mentor forum, where I am able to ask questions. I only default to the mentor forum for this because I often get ignored in TT (and still do in the mentor forums occasionally This stuff, to me, all seems to work moderately well. I think the biggest thing I feel is lacking is engagement. I think more people need to contribute in order for the site to be successful and I am not sure why that doesn't happen. When the "what's wrong with BT" thread went around, I saw that a lot of people said they only used the mentor forums, inspires (didn't even know what those really were) and logging - not TT. At the time, I'd spent a lot of time in TT and not the mentor fora and didn't get it. After being in this group and SBR Utopia for a bit, plus a couple others (shout out to all of ya'!), I now get what they were talking about. I still try to go on TT and add when I have something to add (other than, "x37 on the above" or such). Just don't do it quite as much as before. I also find that I have a lot less time to surf BT and Strava than I used to. It's still a compulsion, though, so I'm not dropping off any time soon (sorry to inform you!). I do like that there are so many like minded (while still very different) athletes here and on Strava, so it feels like the community that is tough to find in person locally (logistics for meet ups are much tougher than a scan of BT/Strava!). So, I'm not on as much, might well decrease a bit more over the next few months as work (hopefully) ramps back up, but I'll likely not leave either site. It has nothing to do with the adds or any of that stuff. I like seeing what people I've come to e-know have to say, and that's worth it to me. I'm probably NOT what Ron wants on the site exclusively, cuz I don't pay! OK, did I just have a point? Not sure… |
But, I do like the community (and I'm sure he wants/needs that).
| 2014-03-04 6:22 PM in reply to: Artemis |
Elite 3494 Renton, Washington | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by Artemis Hiya Manatees!! Want to help a fellow Manatee win a gift certificate for free cycling clothes? I'm in Road Holland's Worst Cycling Kit contest as "Where are my sleeves". I'd love to get some new cycling clothes, so please vote for me!! Clearly, I have no pride, so any and all help for votes would be appreciated.
Voted. I loved High Waisted lol
Looks like you're in 3rd place!! :D
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So I have a question. Anyone ever done CROSSFIT? I dd my first class last Thursday, it's Now TUESDAY and my hips are still burning and sore from squats! Bloody hell. It was an extremely intense workout but I didn't quit, finished the whole thing even if I came last. I'm just wondering if I'm in over my head here, when I explained to my husband what I did his jaw nearly hit the floor. Granted I am VERY out of shape and overweight, the thought of going back is making me brown my underpants but I don't want to quit! I've signed up for 10 classes and I'm thinking that will be it, I probably will not sign up but stick to the lesser intense bootcamp at my gym.
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| 2014-03-04 6:38 PM in reply to: Artemis |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by Artemis Done!Hiya Manatees!! Want to help a fellow Manatee win a gift certificate for free cycling clothes? I'm in Road Holland's Worst Cycling Kit contest as "Where are my sleeves". I'd love to get some new cycling clothes, so please vote for me!! Clearly, I have no pride, so any and all help for votes would be appreciated. |
| 2014-03-04 6:47 PM in reply to: Triathlynne |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by Triathlynne I have not done crossfit, but believe, as with any new exercise routine, you should take things slowly and build up. Doing too much too soon is a recipe for injury. Does cross fit have modified or scaled back versions of its routine for beginners?Originally posted by Artemis Hiya Manatees!! Want to help a fellow Manatee win a gift certificate for free cycling clothes? I'm in Road Holland's Worst Cycling Kit contest as "Where are my sleeves". I'd love to get some new cycling clothes, so please vote for me!! Clearly, I have no pride, so any and all help for votes would be appreciated.
Voted. I loved High Waisted lol
Looks like you're in 3rd place!! :D
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So I have a question. Anyone ever done CROSSFIT? I dd my first class last Thursday, it's Now TUESDAY and my hips are still burning and sore from squats! Bloody hell. It was an extremely intense workout but I didn't quit, finished the whole thing even if I came last. I'm just wondering if I'm in over my head here, when I explained to my husband what I did his jaw nearly hit the floor. Granted I am VERY out of shape and overweight, the thought of going back is making me brown my underpants but I don't want to quit! I've signed up for 10 classes and I'm thinking that will be it, I probably will not sign up but stick to the lesser intense bootcamp at my gym.
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| 2014-03-04 9:31 PM in reply to: amd723 |
Veteran 940 Citrus Heights, CA | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Hey everyone--My MARATHON TRAINING STARTS THIS WEEK!!!! (tomorrow actually...) This should be fun (?) On another note, my shoulder was beginning to feel normal yesterday--with little to no pain no matter which way I moved my arm. ---AND THEN---Last night when I was moving my arm/turning over in bed, I heard and felt a 'pop'...and it hurts like CRAZY again! Lateral raising of the arm= no problem; front raising of the arm= MAJOR pain!!! Oddly enough, I feel pain if I press any point along my collar bone--I told Clint, that had I hit or smashed that area recently, I would think I had a broken collarbone, but I haven't. So I iced again tonight, and hopefully the pain will dissipate eventually. In other news....I have a phone interview with Dallas Zoo on Monday. |
in other words, this sh*t got real! I might actually acquire a new zoo job! I might have to move to a new state! I might work with Komodos and Tuataras and Hellbenders, and dang-near every type of Cobra known to man!!! WOW. Am slightly amped up right now.| 2014-03-04 11:19 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Veteran 2441 Western Australia | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by jmkizer Oh Janyne I need a t-shirt like that. Originally posted by melbo55 Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by melbo55 Help me please, oh wise manatees. I've been trying to import a free training plan into my training log which I thought was possible. Being able to modify it requires a paid plan, I know, but it won't let me just move the plan into my log. Am I incorrect about being able to move a free plan? Edited to add 'please'. Forgive my temporary rudeness, I was taught better than that! I haven't found a way to import a plan into a free account. It just seems to always bring me to the "Upgrade" page, which just frustrates me, since that is not really the definition of "Free". Another reason I am beginning to get more frustrated with BT in general. If it weren't for this group, I would simply abandon BT and just use Strava or Training Peaks. Of course, that is the only compelling reason I can find to keep using BT, the social aspect. I have met and "met" some really wonderful people that have opened my eyes in a number of ways. And for that I thank you all!! ETA: This is not sour grapes on my part, just my observations and my outlook on it. Precisely my thoughts!!! Oh, and the little back and forth with you and Ann-Marie (bless your heart!) made me snerk out loud at my desk!!
I just want to thank the Manatees for introducing this phrase to my vocabulary it has been used a number of times in the last week. I have shared it with a friend that I work with and it is proving very useful. It made our boss who is from America laugh greatly - luckily i wasn't referring to him when I said it. |
| 2014-03-04 11:51 PM in reply to: rrrunner |
Veteran 2441 Western Australia | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by rrrunner Done and I think that I am in trouble too!Originally posted by Artemis Hiya Manatees!! Want to help a fellow Manatee win a gift certificate for free cycling clothes? I'm in Road Holland's Worst Cycling Kit contest as "Where are my sleeves". I'd love to get some new cycling clothes, so please vote for me!! Clearly, I have no pride, so any and all help for votes would be appreciated. Done. Seems to me some of those weren't all that bad. Maybe I need to be worried about my riding clothes... |
| 2014-03-04 11:52 PM in reply to: kgore |
Veteran 2441 Western Australia | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by kgore Yay Kate good luck with the job interview. You will rock it, you had better start planning to move Hey everyone--My MARATHON TRAINING STARTS THIS WEEK!!!! (tomorrow actually...) This should be fun (?) On another note, my shoulder was beginning to feel normal yesterday--with little to no pain no matter which way I moved my arm. ---AND THEN---Last night when I was moving my arm/turning over in bed, I heard and felt a 'pop'...and it hurts like CRAZY again! Lateral raising of the arm= no problem; front raising of the arm= MAJOR pain!!! Oddly enough, I feel pain if I press any point along my collar bone--I told Clint, that had I hit or smashed that area recently, I would think I had a broken collarbone, but I haven't. So I iced again tonight, and hopefully the pain will dissipate eventually. In other news....I have a phone interview with Dallas Zoo on Monday.  |
| 2014-03-05 12:01 AM in reply to: mcmanusclan5 |
Veteran 2441 Western Australia | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 I mainly use the training log and this Mentoring group. I used to surf around in TT a bit, but never really felt that I had much to contribute and my husband commented a few months back about throwing my ipad away so I generally dont log in when he is home. Also at present logging my training (the little I do) and keeping up with you guys is all I can manage to fit in. Even doing just that I am late for work nearly every day, but I have almost a compulsion to check in on the Manatees at Breakfast each morning even though I know it will make me late Originally posted by Asalzwed Hmmmm, so Chris and Janyne, are you guys paying members? I think there are certain features one should expect if you are paying. Other than that, I guess BT doesn't really owe us much. But I guess that brings me to the question that you guys were likely alluding to. How does BT fit into our lives and what, eh, void does it fill? And that's going to be pretty individual with lots of crossover.
First and foremost I use it as a training log. It's easy to go back and look and it tracks my monthly/yearly volume. I don't need much more than that. I don't upload from a device or anything (waaay out of my expertise heh) Second is the mentor forum, where I am able to ask questions. I only default to the mentor forum for this because I often get ignored in TT (and still do in the mentor forums occasionally This stuff, to me, all seems to work moderately well. I think the biggest thing I feel is lacking is engagement. I think more people need to contribute in order for the site to be successful and I am not sure why that doesn't happen. When the "what's wrong with BT" thread went around, I saw that a lot of people said they only used the mentor forums, inspires (didn't even know what those really were) and logging - not TT. At the time, I'd spent a lot of time in TT and not the mentor fora and didn't get it. After being in this group and SBR Utopia for a bit, plus a couple others (shout out to all of ya'!), I now get what they were talking about. I still try to go on TT and add when I have something to add (other than, "x37 on the above" or such). Just don't do it quite as much as before. I also find that I have a lot less time to surf BT and Strava than I used to. It's still a compulsion, though, so I'm not dropping off any time soon (sorry to inform you!). I do like that there are so many like minded (while still very different) athletes here and on Strava, so it feels like the community that is tough to find in person locally (logistics for meet ups are much tougher than a scan of BT/Strava!). So, I'm not on as much, might well decrease a bit more over the next few months as work (hopefully) ramps back up, but I'll likely not leave either site. It has nothing to do with the adds or any of that stuff. I like seeing what people I've come to e-know have to say, and that's worth it to me. I'm probably NOT what Ron wants on the site exclusively, cuz I don't pay! OK, did I just have a point? Not sure… |
| 2014-03-05 5:28 AM in reply to: Triathlynne |
Expert 1038 Noosa | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by Triathlynne
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So I have a question. Anyone ever done CROSSFIT? I dd my first class last Thursday, it's Now TUESDAY and my hips are still burning and sore from squats! Bloody hell. It was an extremely intense workout but I didn't quit, finished the whole thing even if I came last. I'm just wondering if I'm in over my head here, when I explained to my husband what I did his jaw nearly hit the floor. Granted I am VERY out of shape and overweight, the thought of going back is making me brown my underpants but I don't want to quit! I've signed up for 10 classes and I'm thinking that will be it, I probably will not sign up but stick to the lesser intense bootcamp at my gym.
I'm doing 5 x 5 at the moment, its got squats 3 times per week and I'm already borderline injured, my right hip starting popping/crunching when I got to 50kg and I've just dropped back to 45kg. I think i'll drop back to bodyweight squats for the next 10 days to allow it to settle. I think you have to give the body a chance to adapt, its so easy to get injured! |
| 2014-03-05 6:25 AM in reply to: StaceyK |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) Originally posted by StaceyK Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 I mainly use the training log and this Mentoring group. I used to surf around in TT a bit, but never really felt that I had much to contribute and my husband commented a few months back about throwing my ipad away so I generally dont log in when he is home. Also at present logging my training (the little I do) and keeping up with you guys is all I can manage to fit in. Even doing just that I am late for work nearly every day, but I have almost a compulsion to check in on the Manatees at Breakfast each morning even though I know it will make me late Originally posted by Asalzwed Hmmmm, so Chris and Janyne, are you guys paying members? I think there are certain features one should expect if you are paying. Other than that, I guess BT doesn't really owe us much. But I guess that brings me to the question that you guys were likely alluding to. How does BT fit into our lives and what, eh, void does it fill? And that's going to be pretty individual with lots of crossover.
First and foremost I use it as a training log. It's easy to go back and look and it tracks my monthly/yearly volume. I don't need much more than that. I don't upload from a device or anything (waaay out of my expertise heh) Second is the mentor forum, where I am able to ask questions. I only default to the mentor forum for this because I often get ignored in TT (and still do in the mentor forums occasionally This stuff, to me, all seems to work moderately well. I think the biggest thing I feel is lacking is engagement. I think more people need to contribute in order for the site to be successful and I am not sure why that doesn't happen. When the "what's wrong with BT" thread went around, I saw that a lot of people said they only used the mentor forums, inspires (didn't even know what those really were) and logging - not TT. At the time, I'd spent a lot of time in TT and not the mentor fora and didn't get it. After being in this group and SBR Utopia for a bit, plus a couple others (shout out to all of ya'!), I now get what they were talking about. I still try to go on TT and add when I have something to add (other than, "x37 on the above" or such). Just don't do it quite as much as before. I also find that I have a lot less time to surf BT and Strava than I used to. It's still a compulsion, though, so I'm not dropping off any time soon (sorry to inform you!). I do like that there are so many like minded (while still very different) athletes here and on Strava, so it feels like the community that is tough to find in person locally (logistics for meet ups are much tougher than a scan of BT/Strava!). So, I'm not on as much, might well decrease a bit more over the next few months as work (hopefully) ramps back up, but I'll likely not leave either site. It has nothing to do with the adds or any of that stuff. I like seeing what people I've come to e-know have to say, and that's worth it to me. I'm probably NOT what Ron wants on the site exclusively, cuz I don't pay! OK, did I just have a point? Not sure… I think most of us go through the same cycle. Join BT, learn a little from the TT forum. Get to know who is who, join a mentor group and drift way from TT. I have consciously tried to add to the TT forum without being too snarky, but there are times it is challenging. While I am a real nerd, techy, tri-geek, I really enjoy this group. I have learned a lot. Bless my heart! It will be unfortunate if the TT regresses. I am hopeful people will prevent that from happening. A few features could go a long way in making the forum that much better. BTW, other forums have seen some decline as well. I think FB has diluted the value of the forums, yet is not able to provide all the value the forums can. |
| 2014-03-05 7:37 AM in reply to: marcag |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) I agree, there are many reasons for a "decline", among them FB, other tri sites, other social media, and another is the popularity of other aspects of this forum in general. I did a little research into other mentor forums last night and the few I checked were quite robust. So, while it may seem like the engagement in the TT forum has declined, I would bet that traffic is still high on the site in general. And people are getting something out of the entire site and giving back to the site as well. But there are a few items that could be addressed, but isn't that true of everything in life? You will never improve if you stop being curious and don't try new things. Isn't that the very tenent of training? Improvement takes work, and work isn't always fun. |
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