Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois (Page 80)

All the medal talk made me think for a minute or two. I am currently in purge mode. So, a ton of shirts recently went to Goodwill. Medals were sent a while ago to someone who was doing something for Haitian youth. Bibs end up in the garbage after a while. I probably have pictures of all of it though.

However, DD2 made me a shadow box a while ago that contains some of the first stuff. WDW HM, first triathlon, and a few other items. Bibs and medals. and a few medals do hang off my guitar rack in the music room/ 

Race well everyone!, Enjoy the weekend.

I hope you feel better soon, Robin.

Go racers! Looks like some fun stuff.

Kim actually bought me a nice "rolodex" deal (again, for anyone who remembers that far back to what a rolodex is) where you can put the bib's each in a plastic sleeve and they flip.  You can keep the most recent or any other one at the front.  Really nice, actually, but I have yet to sit down and put them all in... 

Maybe this weekend after I modify the pain cave. 

GO RACERS!

And heal up Robin. Quick-like.

That is all.

Matt

GO HANDS-MARIE!!!
GO HORNY MELON!!!
GO STACE FACE AND ME!!!
GO JUSTIN!!!

{MELON PRESS} for Forti

I might not do the butterfly bit no guarantee on the Crocs. I really like 'em. I know the Filipino IronCroc guy

You'll be doing max effort, right? 

I ask this question about once a year or so - and so far haven't pulled the trigger.  Buuuuuuut, since the new pain cave is largely set up, it's a good reason to reconsider!  Here goes:

If you were to get a smart trainer (erg mode kinda thing), and were going for the best available, what would you get? 

I am going to bring zwift online the week before Christmas (busy week this week) and next step is a responsive trainer to replace my (very) old Cyclops mag trainer (all corroded up, but still working - so not a critical issue just yet).

I'm hoping that it'll help make the indoor stuff a bit more entertaining...

Thanks for any/all opinions!

Matt

That reminds me, not quite sure exactly where mine is right now with the lesser riding. Over threshold is definitely down, though some is just not wanting to push that hard at the moment. Just under seems quite strong. A ride a couple weeks ago I just rode strong and held an IF over 0.90 for 70-75 minutes, which is also over 300 watts. And it really wasn't difficult. 

You have something to work with at least. Maybe enough history to figure it out from a less than perfect test? I sure haven't been hitting test worthy HR values in a bit.

That harder, steady ride I did before called back some other discussion from in the group. Like with nutrition. I had run that morning and included a little bit of faster work. Had eaten well during the day, but had nothing except water out on the ride. Ate after and things were generally fine.

Another thing was with workout type. The year had largely been quite polarized, near everything hard was up at about 100% FTP or (more often) higher. Even the occasional 2x20'. Though I hadn't done that, or even a single hard 20' for a couple months before that ride. Basically 10' or less for intervals.

Originally posted by StaceyK Yanit and I had a good race on the weekend. We didn't come last this year there were at least 4 people slower than us I am so over 2016 - I just want it to be finished now. A friend of mine died of Friday and it has really knocked me about, especially today for some reason. He was a wonderful man, a great mentor and it just frickin sucks!!!!

Oh, Stacey, I am so sorry to hear about your friend.  2016 has not been very nice to a lot of the pod!  Sending hugs.

Originally posted by Richardsdrr

Originally posted by mcmanusclan5

I ask this question about once a year or so - and so far haven't pulled the trigger.  Buuuuuuut, since the new pain cave is largely set up, it's a good reason to reconsider!  Here goes:

If you were to get a smart trainer (erg mode kinda thing), and were going for the best available, what would you get? 

I am going to bring zwift online the week before Christmas (busy week this week) and next step is a responsive trainer to replace my (very) old Cyclops mag trainer (all corroded up, but still working - so not a critical issue just yet).

I'm hoping that it'll help make the indoor stuff a bit more entertaining...

Thanks for any/all opinions!

Matt

I'm still happy with my Kicker, but then, I've only really tried one smart trainer. In my opinion, I'd go with a direct drive option (wheel off) as opposed to the wheel on variety for consistency in bike attachment. Janyne may have something to say about the Snap and how Kevin has got along with the wheel on variety. There's quite a favourable write up from DC https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2016/12/tacx-flux-trainer-depth-review.h... that looks like a good alternative to the higher priced Kicker. With a 400 buck saving, you could put it toward a pair of powertap pedals if you were worried about accuracy. Anyway, what's with the indoor rides? With all that terrible weather y'all get in Austin

I'm still rocking my Kurt Kinetic, but smart trainers are alluring.  I think a smart trainer is better for Zwift.  Though I do TrainerRoad, and get by just fine with my dumb trainer.

Originally posted by StaceyK Yanit and I had a good race on the weekend. We didn't come last this year there were at least 4 people slower than us

I'm glad that you had fun and jealous that you got to see Yanti!

{{hugs}}

Originally posted by StaceyK Yanit and I had a good race on the weekend. We didn't come last this year there were at least 4 people slower than us I am so over 2016 - I just want it to be finished now. A friend of mine died of Friday and it has really knocked me about, especially today for some reason. He was a wonderful man, a great mentor and it just frickin sucks!!!!

So sorry to hear about your friend, Stacey.  (((hugs)))

Originally posted by ponderingfox

Originally posted by Richardsdrr

Originally posted by mcmanusclan5

I ask this question about once a year or so - and so far haven't pulled the trigger.  Buuuuuuut, since the new pain cave is largely set up, it's a good reason to reconsider!  Here goes:

If you were to get a smart trainer (erg mode kinda thing), and were going for the best available, what would you get? 

I am going to bring zwift online the week before Christmas (busy week this week) and next step is a responsive trainer to replace my (very) old Cyclops mag trainer (all corroded up, but still working - so not a critical issue just yet).

I'm hoping that it'll help make the indoor stuff a bit more entertaining...

Thanks for any/all opinions!

Matt

I'm still happy with my Kicker, but then, I've only really tried one smart trainer. In my opinion, I'd go with a direct drive option (wheel off) as opposed to the wheel on variety for consistency in bike attachment. Janyne may have something to say about the Snap and how Kevin has got along with the wheel on variety. There's quite a favourable write up from DC https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2016/12/tacx-flux-trainer-depth-review.h... that looks like a good alternative to the higher priced Kicker. With a 400 buck saving, you could put it toward a pair of powertap pedals if you were worried about accuracy. Anyway, what's with the indoor rides? With all that terrible weather y'all get in Austin

I'm still rocking my Kurt Kinetic, but smart trainers are alluring.  I think a smart trainer is better for Zwift.  Though I do TrainerRoad, and get by just fine with my dumb trainer.

I don't even use the programs. I haven't given that serious of thought to any of these. Direct vs wheel on I'm kind of meh on as I don't really care. Just get the job done. Whichever particular unit did best would get it, not the tech theme. I'm also fairly hung up on having the rocking motion of my current trainer. For now, the only thing that will do that is the fairly new Kinetic smart trainer, but don't know anything about it other than they now have one. I've also had the reverse issue of many when going from trainer to outdoors in that I've been better on the trainer. The rock-n-roll fixed that for me. An aspect I would look at is how quickly the unit changes power. For longer intervals it's not as big of a deal, but for shorter things (like the 1'/1' of Revolver), taking 15 seconds to ramp up (or down) is a long time and could affect the workout.

Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by ponderingfox

Originally posted by Richardsdrr

Originally posted by mcmanusclan5

I ask this question about once a year or so - and so far haven't pulled the trigger.  Buuuuuuut, since the new pain cave is largely set up, it's a good reason to reconsider!  Here goes:

If you were to get a smart trainer (erg mode kinda thing), and were going for the best available, what would you get? 

I am going to bring zwift online the week before Christmas (busy week this week) and next step is a responsive trainer to replace my (very) old Cyclops mag trainer (all corroded up, but still working - so not a critical issue just yet).

I'm hoping that it'll help make the indoor stuff a bit more entertaining...

Thanks for any/all opinions!

Matt

I'm still happy with my Kicker, but then, I've only really tried one smart trainer. In my opinion, I'd go with a direct drive option (wheel off) as opposed to the wheel on variety for consistency in bike attachment. Janyne may have something to say about the Snap and how Kevin has got along with the wheel on variety. There's quite a favourable write up from DC https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2016/12/tacx-flux-trainer-depth-review.h... that looks like a good alternative to the higher priced Kicker. With a 400 buck saving, you could put it toward a pair of powertap pedals if you were worried about accuracy. Anyway, what's with the indoor rides? With all that terrible weather y'all get in Austin

I'm still rocking my Kurt Kinetic, but smart trainers are alluring.  I think a smart trainer is better for Zwift.  Though I do TrainerRoad, and get by just fine with my dumb trainer.

I don't even use the programs. I haven't given that serious of thought to any of these. Direct vs wheel on I'm kind of meh on as I don't really care. Just get the job done. Whichever particular unit did best would get it, not the tech theme. I'm also fairly hung up on having the rocking motion of my current trainer. For now, the only thing that will do that is the fairly new Kinetic smart trainer, but don't know anything about it other than they now have one. I've also had the reverse issue of many when going from trainer to outdoors in that I've been better on the trainer. The rock-n-roll fixed that for me. An aspect I would look at is how quickly the unit changes power. For longer intervals it's not as big of a deal, but for shorter things (like the 1'/1' of Revolver), taking 15 seconds to ramp up (or down) is a long time and could affect the workout.

I think the new smart Kinetic trainer has  been the worst received of all the new trainers.  Of course, my biases come via DCRainmaker.  

I find TrainerRoad excellent for just getting the job done.  It's been incredible for my indoor training.  I think they gave me a month-free coupon to share, if you're interested in checking it out.  I'm a firm believer now.

As for the smart trainers, i think they change power load in 3-5 seconds.  I don't think anyone would want an instantaneous change.

Originally posted by ponderingfox

Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by ponderingfox

Originally posted by Richardsdrr

Originally posted by mcmanusclan5

I ask this question about once a year or so - and so far haven't pulled the trigger.  Buuuuuuut, since the new pain cave is largely set up, it's a good reason to reconsider!  Here goes:

If you were to get a smart trainer (erg mode kinda thing), and were going for the best available, what would you get? 

I am going to bring zwift online the week before Christmas (busy week this week) and next step is a responsive trainer to replace my (very) old Cyclops mag trainer (all corroded up, but still working - so not a critical issue just yet).

I'm hoping that it'll help make the indoor stuff a bit more entertaining...

Thanks for any/all opinions!

Matt

I'm still happy with my Kicker, but then, I've only really tried one smart trainer. In my opinion, I'd go with a direct drive option (wheel off) as opposed to the wheel on variety for consistency in bike attachment. Janyne may have something to say about the Snap and how Kevin has got along with the wheel on variety. There's quite a favourable write up from DC https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2016/12/tacx-flux-trainer-depth-review.h... that looks like a good alternative to the higher priced Kicker. With a 400 buck saving, you could put it toward a pair of powertap pedals if you were worried about accuracy. Anyway, what's with the indoor rides? With all that terrible weather y'all get in Austin

I'm still rocking my Kurt Kinetic, but smart trainers are alluring.  I think a smart trainer is better for Zwift.  Though I do TrainerRoad, and get by just fine with my dumb trainer.

I don't even use the programs. I haven't given that serious of thought to any of these. Direct vs wheel on I'm kind of meh on as I don't really care. Just get the job done. Whichever particular unit did best would get it, not the tech theme. I'm also fairly hung up on having the rocking motion of my current trainer. For now, the only thing that will do that is the fairly new Kinetic smart trainer, but don't know anything about it other than they now have one. I've also had the reverse issue of many when going from trainer to outdoors in that I've been better on the trainer. The rock-n-roll fixed that for me. An aspect I would look at is how quickly the unit changes power. For longer intervals it's not as big of a deal, but for shorter things (like the 1'/1' of Revolver), taking 15 seconds to ramp up (or down) is a long time and could affect the workout.

I think the new smart Kinetic trainer has  been the worst received of all the new trainers.  Of course, my biases come via DCRainmaker.  

I find TrainerRoad excellent for just getting the job done.  It's been incredible for my indoor training.  I think they gave me a month-free coupon to share, if you're interested in checking it out.  I'm a firm believer now.

As for the smart trainers, i think they change power load in 3-5 seconds.  I don't think anyone would want an instantaneous change.

Yeah, will see as things progress for Kinetic. DC noted that it was all in the programming, so could easily change at any time. Another reason I've held off. First time out for them, so bound to be something to work out. I wouldn't necessarily get it just yet, but wouldn't write them off either because of the nature of the complaint being quite fixable.

I don't think you'd want instant resistance changes either, just watching out for them being really slow. I've ridden a computrainer a couple times and that was fine. I forget which of the others had some earlier gripes with that. It may have been adjusted by now too.