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axteraa - 2012-11-27 5:06 AM

I had to drive almost 14 hours to Mont Tremblant.  That's really beyond the limits of what I would normally do but having the bike made it more reasonable.


When I travel with the juniors, we are usually doing a similar driving time; four days with a day and a half to get there, pre race stuff, race, pack up and a day and a half home. All for a race that they finish in just under to just over an hour.

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2012-11-27 8:13 AM
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Hey everyone.  Just popping in for a quick 'hello'.  My training of late has consisted of chasing around an 18 month and 3 year old kid.  I forgot how much work that is!

FWIW, Chris, I think you plan sounds good.

Have a great day/weel/month everyone! 

2012-11-27 8:46 AM
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juniperjen - 2012-11-26 10:42 AM

Hey team - i have been very quiet lately and not doing a ton of training. I do have news to share though.  I am expecting an ironbaby.    We said we would try after Ironman but i never dreamed it would happen so quickly - i am 12 weeks this week.  It means I am due in June next year and the next year's race season will be a wash ... 

I would really love any tips and experience on keeping active both during pregnancy and after the baby comes.  I am swimming and running a bit but not being terribly consistent.  

Congrats Jen.  No medical opinion from me, but I used to swim with a Tri group and one pregnant member swam almost all the way up to the time of delivery.  She also raced Ironman Canada 6months after the baby showed up (maybe wouldn't recommend the second part).

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juniperjen - 2012-11-26 10:42 AM

Hey team - i have been very quiet lately and not doing a ton of training. I do have news to share though.  I am expecting an ironbaby.    We said we would try after Ironman but i never dreamed it would happen so quickly - i am 12 weeks this week.  It means I am due in June next year and the next year's race season will be a wash ... 

I would really love any tips and experience on keeping active both during pregnancy and after the baby comes.  I am swimming and running a bit but not being terribly consistent.  

Congrats Jen.  No medical opinion from me, but I used to swim with a Tri group and one pregnant member swam almost all the way up to the time of delivery.  She also raced Ironman Canada 6months after the baby showed up (maybe wouldn't recommend the second part).

Thanks guys! I really appreciate all the positive feedback.  I have spoken to my doctor and I am going for delivery through a midwife so i start seeing her regularly today and will talk to her about it.  I just find most doctors really don't know what to do with people as active as we are.  (usually they are encouraging people to walk regularly)  She was fine with me running and swimming and basically said 'no marathons'.  Which is fine by me. 

I definitely won't be planning really anything for 2013.  Tentatively, I would like to be able to do maybe a couple of 10k's by the end of the year but I will see how things go.  

2012-11-27 9:14 AM
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gsmacleod - 2012-11-27 8:30 AM
axteraa - 2012-11-27 5:06 AM I had to drive almost 14 hours to Mont Tremblant.  That's really beyond the limits of what I would normally do but having the bike made it more reasonable.
When I travel with the juniors, we are usually doing a similar driving time; four days with a day and a half to get there, pre race stuff, race, pack up and a day and a half home. All for a race that they finish in just under to just over an hour. Shane

Looks like we'll be driving to your neck of the woods for Christmas - about 20 hours of driving - it's my limit for sure - but we usually break it up with at least one night stop (my hubby is from Bridgewater, NS).  

And there's a lot of dull mileage in there. Though on one trip a couple of years ago, I was driving and had to laugh at the news on CBC in New Brunswick where an actual news item was that some damage was caused to an RCMP cruiser when it hit a porcupine ... 



2012-11-27 9:32 AM
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juniperjen - 2012-11-27 8:14 AM

gsmacleod - 2012-11-27 8:30 AM
axteraa - 2012-11-27 5:06 AM I had to drive almost 14 hours to Mont Tremblant.  That's really beyond the limits of what I would normally do but having the bike made it more reasonable.
When I travel with the juniors, we are usually doing a similar driving time; four days with a day and a half to get there, pre race stuff, race, pack up and a day and a half home. All for a race that they finish in just under to just over an hour. Shane

Looks like we'll be driving to your neck of the woods for Christmas - about 20 hours of driving - it's my limit for sure - but we usually break it up with at least one night stop (my hubby is from Bridgewater, NS).  

And there's a lot of dull mileage in there. Though on one trip a couple of years ago, I was driving and had to laugh at the news on CBC in New Brunswick where an actual news item was that some damage was caused to an RCMP cruiser when it hit a porcupine ... 

Hey, my aunt lives there.  My limit is 12-15 hours, which I have done a lot.  Worse was driving through Idaho.  I was once on vacation in NB and was driving some place and it would not stop raining so finally I said screw it and turned at the border and kept going until I found no rain.  12 hours of driving later I was back home.  I did fly to my last two HIM's though.  I was suppose to drive to the one in Oregon cause I lived there when I signed up but then someone wanted to move...

2012-11-27 9:51 AM
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Hey, kool kid Freddites

I'm begging for some help/consolation/whatever with this week's training plan (week before race week). The last three weeks have been 24, 25, 27 hours of training. Race week itself will be whatever I can fit in, maybe an hour or so a day, just staying quick and light.

Week Before Race Week
DaySwimBikeRunHrs / Day
Monday REST REST REST0:00
Tuesday1:30     1:30
Wednesday1:00 2:00 1:00 4:00
Thursday  3:00 0:30trans3:30
Friday0:45 1:00 2:00 3:45
Saturday  3:00 0:30trans3:30
Sunday0:45 2:00 1:00 3:45
Total       
20:00:004:00 11:00 5:00  

 

2012-11-27 10:16 AM
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Yanti, I'm not an experienced IM'er at all and I know you aren't on the typical training plan but it seems like a lot to me.  What is your overall fatigue level like?
2012-11-27 10:18 AM
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juniperjen - 2012-11-27 11:14 AM

gsmacleod - 2012-11-27 8:30 AM
axteraa - 2012-11-27 5:06 AM I had to drive almost 14 hours to Mont Tremblant.  That's really beyond the limits of what I would normally do but having the bike made it more reasonable.
When I travel with the juniors, we are usually doing a similar driving time; four days with a day and a half to get there, pre race stuff, race, pack up and a day and a half home. All for a race that they finish in just under to just over an hour. Shane

Looks like we'll be driving to your neck of the woods for Christmas - about 20 hours of driving - it's my limit for sure - but we usually break it up with at least one night stop (my hubby is from Bridgewater, NS).  

And there's a lot of dull mileage in there. Though on one trip a couple of years ago, I was driving and had to laugh at the news on CBC in New Brunswick where an actual news item was that some damage was caused to an RCMP cruiser when it hit a porcupine ... 

That's the kind of things we get on the news every day.  At least twice a week I think to myself "Really?  That's the top local news story?".  

2012-11-27 10:44 AM
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axteraa - 2012-11-28 12:16 AM Yanti, I'm not an experienced IM'er at all and I know you aren't on the typical training plan but it seems like a lot to me.  What is your overall fatigue level like?

Hey, I am *all* for doing less

I feel awesome.

I've also been sleeping about 12 hours a day, and if I'm not sleeping or training, I'm eating.



2012-11-27 10:45 AM
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axteraa - 2012-11-27 9:18 AM
juniperjen - 2012-11-27 11:14 AM

gsmacleod - 2012-11-27 8:30 AM
axteraa - 2012-11-27 5:06 AM I had to drive almost 14 hours to Mont Tremblant.  That's really beyond the limits of what I would normally do but having the bike made it more reasonable.
When I travel with the juniors, we are usually doing a similar driving time; four days with a day and a half to get there, pre race stuff, race, pack up and a day and a half home. All for a race that they finish in just under to just over an hour. Shane

Looks like we'll be driving to your neck of the woods for Christmas - about 20 hours of driving - it's my limit for sure - but we usually break it up with at least one night stop (my hubby is from Bridgewater, NS).  

And there's a lot of dull mileage in there. Though on one trip a couple of years ago, I was driving and had to laugh at the news on CBC in New Brunswick where an actual news item was that some damage was caused to an RCMP cruiser when it hit a porcupine ... 

That's the kind of things we get on the news every day.  At least twice a week I think to myself "Really?  That's the top local news story?".  

Dude, you live on a tiny island.  Yes it is the top news story.  lol  My parents hit a black bear once driving.  Our fear was always moose.  I have a teacher that hit a moose twice, the second time he had those little whistle things in the truck of his car instead of installed.  How he survived both is beyond me. 

trying to find a way to tie this to training but not finding a way.  I just love talking Canadian.

2012-11-27 10:50 AM
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juniperjen - 2012-11-27 11:11 PM
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juniperjen - 2012-11-26 10:42 AM

Hey team - i have been very quiet lately and not doing a ton of training. I do have news to share though.  I am expecting an ironbaby.    We said we would try after Ironman but i never dreamed it would happen so quickly - i am 12 weeks this week.  It means I am due in June next year and the next year's race season will be a wash ... 

I would really love any tips and experience on keeping active both during pregnancy and after the baby comes.  I am swimming and running a bit but not being terribly consistent.  

Congrats Jen.  No medical opinion from me, but I used to swim with a Tri group and one pregnant member swam almost all the way up to the time of delivery.  She also raced Ironman Canada 6months after the baby showed up (maybe wouldn't recommend the second part).

Thanks guys! I really appreciate all the positive feedback.  I have spoken to my doctor and I am going for delivery through a midwife so i start seeing her regularly today and will talk to her about it.  I just find most doctors really don't know what to do with people as active as we are.  (usually they are encouraging people to walk regularly)  She was fine with me running and swimming and basically said 'no marathons'.  Which is fine by me. 

I definitely won't be planning really anything for 2013.  Tentatively, I would like to be able to do maybe a couple of 10k's by the end of the year but I will see how things go.  

Consmackulations!!! A miniIronjen on the way

I edited a perinatal Pilates manual awhile back, and wrote an indoor cycling program for the perinatal period. Seems like the midwife has it spot on. Basically, anything you've been doing, you can continue doing. (Pilates and yoga have some restrictions on poses and body positions past a certain time, mainly ones done while lying on your back).

2012-11-27 10:50 AM
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bzgl40 - 2012-11-27 11:45 AM
axteraa - 2012-11-27 9:18 AM
juniperjen - 2012-11-27 11:14 AM

gsmacleod - 2012-11-27 8:30 AM
axteraa - 2012-11-27 5:06 AM I had to drive almost 14 hours to Mont Tremblant.  That's really beyond the limits of what I would normally do but having the bike made it more reasonable.
When I travel with the juniors, we are usually doing a similar driving time; four days with a day and a half to get there, pre race stuff, race, pack up and a day and a half home. All for a race that they finish in just under to just over an hour. Shane

Looks like we'll be driving to your neck of the woods for Christmas - about 20 hours of driving - it's my limit for sure - but we usually break it up with at least one night stop (my hubby is from Bridgewater, NS).  

And there's a lot of dull mileage in there. Though on one trip a couple of years ago, I was driving and had to laugh at the news on CBC in New Brunswick where an actual news item was that some damage was caused to an RCMP cruiser when it hit a porcupine ... 

That's the kind of things we get on the news every day.  At least twice a week I think to myself "Really?  That's the top local news story?".  

Dude, you live on a tiny island.  Yes it is the top news story.  lol  My parents hit a black bear once driving.  Our fear was always moose.  I have a teacher that hit a moose twice, the second time he had those little whistle things in the truck of his car instead of installed.  How he survived both is beyond me. 

trying to find a way to tie this to training but not finding a way.  I just love talking Canadian.

Me too.

Yeah, we found out the hard way why people don't drive too much after dark in NB.  Going 110kph on the new Trans Canada outside of Fredericton where the wildlife fences hadn't yet been put up ... probably one of the scariest moments of my life. I saw two fuzzy things on the road and it took a second to dawn on me that there were two moose on the road.   Thankfully they weren't moving quickly and i was able to swerve around but I am pretty sure my hubby looked the one right in the eye (I was driving).  When we got to our hotel the clerk said 'i've never even seen a moose around here'.  I was probably still shaking. 

2012-11-27 10:54 AM
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TriAya - 2012-11-27 11:50 AM
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juniperjen - 2012-11-26 10:42 AM

Hey team - i have been very quiet lately and not doing a ton of training. I do have news to share though.  I am expecting an ironbaby.    We said we would try after Ironman but i never dreamed it would happen so quickly - i am 12 weeks this week.  It means I am due in June next year and the next year's race season will be a wash ... 

I would really love any tips and experience on keeping active both during pregnancy and after the baby comes.  I am swimming and running a bit but not being terribly consistent.  

Congrats Jen.  No medical opinion from me, but I used to swim with a Tri group and one pregnant member swam almost all the way up to the time of delivery.  She also raced Ironman Canada 6months after the baby showed up (maybe wouldn't recommend the second part).

Thanks guys! I really appreciate all the positive feedback.  I have spoken to my doctor and I am going for delivery through a midwife so i start seeing her regularly today and will talk to her about it.  I just find most doctors really don't know what to do with people as active as we are.  (usually they are encouraging people to walk regularly)  She was fine with me running and swimming and basically said 'no marathons'.  Which is fine by me. 

I definitely won't be planning really anything for 2013.  Tentatively, I would like to be able to do maybe a couple of 10k's by the end of the year but I will see how things go.  

Consmackulations!!! A miniIronjen on the way

I edited a perinatal Pilates manual awhile back, and wrote an indoor cycling program for the perinatal period. Seems like the midwife has it spot on. Basically, anything you've been doing, you can continue doing. (Pilates and yoga have some restrictions on poses and body positions past a certain time, mainly ones done while lying on your back).

Thanks Yanti!  Awesome stuff - it's hard to know when most people you know aren't that active and don't have much to say on these subjects. that's why BT is so great. 

I was sorry to read on COJ about Biscuit's mysterious disappearance - i hope a reappearance happens soon. 

2012-11-27 12:06 PM
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Hey Yanti - you are on a crazy IM cram plan, so I am really not sure what I would do if I were you, but from the way you have it broken down it looks like too much sameness to me. What I would do if I were ME is a a hard interval set on the bike on monday (1:45 total including a really good warm up/cool down) Long OWS on Tuesday (1:20 ~1:30 total) last long brick on Wednesday (4 hours bike, 1:45 run, all at IM pace to check gear, nutrition, etc) then taper, taper, taper. My taper maintains a fair amount of activity; IM week would be about 9ish hours plus the actually IM. If I were dead-set for that monday recovery day, then I would have no problem pushing this all back a day and beginning my taper on Thursday.


2012-11-27 12:15 PM
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Yikes, that's a lot of hours!   I am not a coach, so take it with a grain of salt.  Two weeks out you are not building any fitness.  I would not be running 2:00 within 10 days of an IM, and 11 hours on the bike is a lot.  Swimming is fine because it's easy to recover from.  Just back of the napkin stuff, I'd drop everything down to a total of about 12-14 hours, mostly in the bike/run portion.
2012-11-27 12:17 PM
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TriAya - 2012-11-27 7:51 AM

Hey, kool kid Freddites

I'm begging for some help/consolation/whatever with this week's training plan (week before race week). The last three weeks have been 24, 25, 27 hours of training. Race week itself will be whatever I can fit in, maybe an hour or so a day, just staying quick and light.

Week Before Race Week
DaySwimBikeRunHrs / Day
Monday REST REST REST0:00
Tuesday1:30     1:30
Wednesday1:00 2:00 1:00 1:00 :30 4:00
Thursday  3:00 0:30trans3:30
Friday0:45 1:00 2:00 1:00 3:45
Saturday  3:00 2:00 0:30trans3:30
Sunday0:45 2:00 1:00 1:00 :30 3:45
Total       
20:00:004:00 11:00 5:00  

 

No idea how many hours it is, but above is along the lines of what i might do

2012-11-27 2:55 PM
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juniperjen - 2012-11-27 10:11 AM
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juniperjen - 2012-11-26 10:42 AM

Hey team - i have been very quiet lately and not doing a ton of training. I do have news to share though.  I am expecting an ironbaby.    We said we would try after Ironman but i never dreamed it would happen so quickly - i am 12 weeks this week.  It means I am due in June next year and the next year's race season will be a wash ... 

I would really love any tips and experience on keeping active both during pregnancy and after the baby comes.  I am swimming and running a bit but not being terribly consistent.  

Congrats Jen.  No medical opinion from me, but I used to swim with a Tri group and one pregnant member swam almost all the way up to the time of delivery.  She also raced Ironman Canada 6months after the baby showed up (maybe wouldn't recommend the second part).

Thanks guys! I really appreciate all the positive feedback.  I have spoken to my doctor and I am going for delivery through a midwife so i start seeing her regularly today and will talk to her about it.  I just find most doctors really don't know what to do with people as active as we are.  (usually they are encouraging people to walk regularly)  She was fine with me running and swimming and basically said 'no marathons'.  Which is fine by me. 

I definitely won't be planning really anything for 2013.  Tentatively, I would like to be able to do maybe a couple of 10k's by the end of the year but I will see how things go.  

Both our kids were delivered at home using a midwife.  My wife said it was the best decision she ever made.  (Don't worry Fred, we still like doctors too.  Wink)  The midwife had encouraged her to stay active during the first pregnancy, but because of issues with the second one she needed to take things a bit easier.

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I need a foolproof way of making myself get out of bed.  My bed is simply too comfortable - I have the best intentions, but just can't get myself out of bed.  I've complained about this before but just can't force myself up.  It's dark and cold outside and my hibernation instincts keep winning the battle.
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Ended up with a flat on the trainer this morning. Was on my last set of 6x5 at LT. Won't be making it up today though! Going to emerg journal club tonight to hopefully secure an emergency interview at my school! hope you all have good days. PS: To Yanti-11 hr trainer ride?? You crazy.


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GoFaster - 2012-11-28 9:57 AM I need a foolproof way of making myself get out of bed.  My bed is simply too comfortable - I have the best intentions, but just can't get myself out of bed.  I've complained about this before but just can't force myself up.  It's dark and cold outside and my hibernation instincts keep winning the battle.

Here is my current strategy that seems to be working for me.  I get up at 4:20 for both bike and swim mornings (4-5 days/week).

We make our coffee in a french press so I grind the beans before going to bed and have it ready waiting for the hot water.  I have a timer on the kettle to start boiling the water at 4:12, it takes 8 minutes.  Alarm goes off at 4:20 and I usually hear the kettle click indicating it's ready within 30 seconds.  The dogs (in another room) also hear the alarm and the kettle click and they start whining and sometimes scratching on the door.  This is very effective for getting me up!  I go pour the water on the coffee, head to the bathroom and then let the dogs out of their room and feed them.  By the time that is done, the coffee is ready and I can enjoy it while I wake up for the workout.

2012-11-28 8:13 AM
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GoFaster - 2012-11-28 8:57 AM I need a foolproof way of making myself get out of bed.  My bed is simply too comfortable - I have the best intentions, but just can't get myself out of bed.  I've complained about this before but just can't force myself up.  It's dark and cold outside and my hibernation instincts keep winning the battle.

This could be met with scorn, derision and is admittedly extreme. Get a cat. Mine will not let me sleep in. If I don't respond to "cat" for "feed me, I am starving and might die sooooon" then he resorts to biting. Just get them on the schedule you want to follow and you're good. Down side is they don't understand rest days.

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GoFaster - 2012-11-28 9:57 AM I need a foolproof way of making myself get out of bed.  My bed is simply too comfortable - I have the best intentions, but just can't get myself out of bed.  I've complained about this before but just can't force myself up.  It's dark and cold outside and my hibernation instincts keep winning the battle.

Here is my current strategy that seems to be working for me.  I get up at 4:20 for both bike and swim mornings (4-5 days/week).

We make our coffee in a french press so I grind the beans before going to bed and have it ready waiting for the hot water.  I have a timer on the kettle to start boiling the water at 4:12, it takes 8 minutes.  Alarm goes off at 4:20 and I usually hear the kettle click indicating it's ready within 30 seconds.  The dogs (in another room) also hear the alarm and the kettle click and they start whining and sometimes scratching on the door.  This is very effective for getting me up!  I go pour the water on the coffee, head to the bathroom and then let the dogs out of their room and feed them.  By the time that is done, the coffee is ready and I can enjoy it while I wake up for the workout.

This is MUCH better advice.

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Had to get my run in early this morning - Main Set was 4x1mile @T-Pace (5').  I always struggle with hard intervals first thing in the morning..HR and RPE are always much higher relative to that pace after I have "woken up".  Actually was closer to my target paces than I thought it would be.

Question about Garmin Connect - is there a way to have a 0.5mi privacy window around your house similar to what is available on Strava.  I want to keep my workouts public but do not want people to know exactly where I live.

Neil:  I usually have 2 workouts planned each day during the week so...I know if I do not get my arse out of bed than they will not get done..that is enough to get me up.

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