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Anne-Marie - I guess WTC is implementing relays at 70.3 races?  Both last year and this year there were relay options at LP 70.3.

WTC definitely knows their stuff and runs a very organized race.  However, IMO, Rev3 offers an experience that is on par with WTC from an organized point of view but adds in more racer-friendly pieces that are nice: cold, wet towels to keep after hot races (I'm looking at you, Williamsburg!), good food, a more approachable, friendly feel/atmosphere.  Most Rev3 events I've been to have beer tents on site for post-race (which isn't for everyone but it's a nice addition for those who want to celebrate with a cold one).  I tend to get a more 'just business' vibe from WTC events which has its pros and cons.

I was sad to see Quassy and Williamsburg sold off to WTC, especially since I've done both of those races.  Quassy was my first Olympic and Williamsburg was where I met Judi (QueenZipp) in person (*sniff*, I'm getting emotional, lol).




Williamsburg was great - although too hot to have in July - I'm glad to see they at least moved the date earlier. I mean the water was so warm it was gross (2017).

Quassy as a race just sucks. It's hard and I don't like it. Having said that, there are a lot of people here who are not happy WTC took over. My biggest gripe is no more Oly because I did do the Quassy Oly. Oh well. I'll just go to Patriot in MA instead. FYI if anyone is up here and looking for a good 70.3 - Patriot or any of the other Sun Multisport events.

I have no strong feelings either way rev3 vs wtc. Sure rev3 had the whole family friendly thing but WTC brings better sponsors and better swag. 2019 Will be interesting.


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And.... they cancelled my race. Dammit. I was really stoked to do this again. They had to, we are going to get tons of rain and there will be flooding. I hate Flo!
I hope everyone else has great races and those in the path of Flo, stay safe.
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Augusta 70.3 has had a relay division since my first year in 2013.

Speaking of Augusta...the concern is that we may potentially not have a swim if the corps of engineers releases more water from the dam. It was running at 10000 cu ft/min yesterday. Raceday current is generally 3000-4000. There will also be a lot of debris. I wouldn't want to swim the river at 10000.

That said, maybe it'll keep the alligators downriver.
2018-09-14 7:47 PM
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Racing Manatees!!!

September 15-16
TJ - Sandia Crest Marathon on Saturday
Mary - Littlefoot Triathlon relay--run leg on Saturday
Kirsten - Beat the Blerch run on Saturday
Robin P - Asheville Gravel Grinder at Biltmore on Sunday
Robkn K - Harvest Moon HIM on Sunday.

Is anyone else racing?




Thanks everyone! I'm actually only doing the swim as part of a relay.

Good luck to all the other racers out there!
2018-09-14 8:08 PM
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Originally posted by ceilidh And.... they cancelled my race. Dammit. I was really stoked to do this again. They had to, we are going to get tons of rain and there will be flooding. I hate Flo! I hope everyone else has great races and those in the path of Flo, stay safe. .

I'm sorry to hear that, Robin :-(

2018-09-14 8:10 PM
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Originally posted by glfprncs Augusta 70.3 has had a relay division since my first year in 2013. Speaking of Augusta...the concern is that we may potentially not have a swim if the corps of engineers releases more water from the dam. It was running at 10000 cu ft/min yesterday. Raceday current is generally 3000-4000. There will also be a lot of debris. I wouldn't want to swim the river at 10000. That said, maybe it'll keep the alligators downriver.

Hopefully the whole event will go off without a hitch.

IM Raleigh 70.3 also had a relay division. BTW, I'm guessing that Williamsburg is one reason Raleigh went kaput (although I don't think that the city of Raleigh did themselves any favors).



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Racing Manatees!!!

September 15-16
TJ - Sandia Crest Marathon on Saturday
Mary - Littlefoot Triathlon relay--run leg on Saturday
Kirsten - Beat the Blerch run on Saturday
Robin P - Asheville Gravel Grinder at Biltmore on Sunday
Robkn K - Harvest Moon HIM on Sunday.

Is anyone else racing?

Thanks everyone! I'm actually only doing the swim as part of a relay. Good luck to all the other racers out there!

You will rock it!

2018-09-14 10:18 PM
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Racing Manatees!!!

September 15-16
TJ - Sandia Crest Marathon on Saturday
Mary - Littlefoot Triathlon relay--run leg on Saturday
Kirsten - Beat the Blerch run on Saturday
Robin P - Asheville Gravel Grinder at Biltmore on Sunday
Robkn K - Harvest Moon HIM on Sunday.

Is anyone else racing?




Good luck racers!
2018-09-14 10:53 PM
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Good luck everyone!! This is where Beat the Blerch comes from:http://theoatmeal.com/comics/runningBe safe those in the path of the storm!!
2018-09-15 2:32 AM
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Originally posted by glfprncs Augusta 70.3 has had a relay division since my first year in 2013. Speaking of Augusta...the concern is that we may potentially not have a swim if the corps of engineers releases more water from the dam. It was running at 10000 cu ft/min yesterday. Raceday current is generally 3000-4000. There will also be a lot of debris. I wouldn't want to swim the river at 10000. That said, maybe it'll keep the alligators downriver.

Hopefully the whole event will go off without a hitch.

IM Raleigh 70.3 also had a relay division. BTW, I'm guessing that Williamsburg is one reason Raleigh went kaput (although I don't think that the city of Raleigh did themselves any favors).

well, I guess I’ve been living under a rock as it relates to WTC 70.3 relay divisions!

2018-09-17 2:53 PM
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How is everyone on the East Coast faring after this weekend? I hope all is as well as can be hoped for.



2018-09-18 8:23 AM
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I meant to post this last week but I was sidetracked by Florence. I hope that everyone is doing well and that there is no additional flooding in PA or WNC. We need a report from Nancy on the status of the Savannah River in advance of Augusta 70.3 this weekend.

This is the list that I have compiled so far on meetup ideas. What say you?

2019 Manatee Meetup Ideas

RAGNAR Richmond April 26-27
https://www.runragnar.com/event-detail/trail/richmond_va#overview

Bolder Boulder on May 27
https://www.bolderboulder.com/

Eagle Up Ultra relay, Ohio, June 8-9
http://www.runcanton.com/eagle-up-ultra

Iromman St. George 70.3
http://www.ironman.com/triathlon/events/americas/ironman-70.3/st.-george.aspx

(And if we are going to throw in HIM events, I’ll add Augusta, Williamsburg, and Lake Logan)

2018-09-18 8:40 AM
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How is everyone on the East Coast faring after this weekend? I hope all is as well as can be hoped for.

We are drying out here in the Raleigh area. We had some flooding in our area overnight on Sunday but nothing significant in my county. As you have probably seen on TV, there is significant flooding in much of North Carolina. "NCDOT advises motorists not to travel through these parts of the state.  Travel should be completely avoided in areas south of US-64 and east of I-73/I-74." That is nearly 1/3 of our state, I live about a mile south of US64.

2018-09-18 9:55 AM
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Originally posted by jmkizer

I meant to post this last week but I was sidetracked by Florence. I hope that everyone is doing well and that there is no additional flooding in PA or WNC. We need a report from Nancy on the status of the Savannah River in advance of Augusta 70.3 this weekend.

This is the list that I have compiled so far on meetup ideas. What say you?

2019 Manatee Meetup Ideas

RAGNAR Richmond April 26-27
https://www.runragnar.com/event-detail/trail/richmond_va#overview

Bolder Boulder on May 27
https://www.bolderboulder.com/

Eagle Up Ultra relay, Ohio, June 8-9
http://www.runcanton.com/eagle-up-ultra

Iromman St. George 70.3
http://www.ironman.com/triathlon/events/americas/ironman-70.3/st.-george.aspx

(And if we are going to throw in HIM events, I’ll add Augusta, Williamsburg, and Lake Logan)

I like this list!  

2018-09-18 9:57 AM
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Originally posted by melbo55

Originally posted by jmkizer

I meant to post this last week but I was sidetracked by Florence. I hope that everyone is doing well and that there is no additional flooding in PA or WNC. We need a report from Nancy on the status of the Savannah River in advance of Augusta 70.3 this weekend.

This is the list that I have compiled so far on meetup ideas. What say you?

2019 Manatee Meetup Ideas

RAGNAR Richmond April 26-27
https://www.runragnar.com/event-detail/trail/richmond_va#overview

Bolder Boulder on May 27
https://www.bolderboulder.com/

Eagle Up Ultra relay, Ohio, June 8-9
http://www.runcanton.com/eagle-up-ultra

Iromman St. George 70.3
http://www.ironman.com/triathlon/events/americas/ironman-70.3/st.-george.aspx

(And if we are going to throw in HIM events, I’ll add Augusta, Williamsburg, and Lake Logan)

I like this list!  

You have some good ones on your list too! Zion HM, Death Valley HM... We have to see what we can get people interested in :-)

2018-09-18 6:49 PM
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Has anyone ever raced White Lake half in the spring? Only thing I've heard is the water is cold. Anyone else have the 4-1-1?


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I've signed up for St. George, but really afraid to commit to anything for summer for the indefinite future. Just absolutely no idea where I'll be employment-wise, or where I'll be living or moving to. I've only just started putting in applications for districts that accept them year-round; most schools won't know their 2019 vacancies till at least April or reach out to possible external hires until May or June at the earliest. In any case, run race meet-ups would be nice as they involve less stuff to haul around in the car if it's a road trip.

Crazy weekend of training and still feeling a bit hung-over from it. I think this is what my coach calls a "triple". She has it down for some weeks in TP but when I asked what that meant she said, "You don't want to know." (?!) Basically, I did an Ironman (a tad less on the bike and run, but not by much), just within about 30 hours instead of 17, with a 10-hour nap in the middle and out of order (bike--actually with a brick run, swim, run). Yikes!

Not sure if this is others' experience with IM training but really, what I'm struggling most with is just being totally sick of gu, energy bars, etc. after a while. I'm finishing long workouts thinking obsessively about stuff like BBQ and hot dogs (and I don't even like the latter--it just sounds really different than gu)!

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2018-09-19 6:56 AM
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Originally posted by glfprncs Has anyone ever raced White Lake half in the spring? Only thing I've heard is the water is cold. Anyone else have the 4-1-1?

I have not done the spring half but I have done the spring oly. Yes, the water can be cold. The lake is very shallow so the temperature can swing wildly from day-to-day in the spring and fall. It was 66 degrees when I did it in May 2015. (The water temp was 90 for the fall race on Sept 8th!). I think that the spring races have been in April the past few years. Setup Events usually has their schedule up in early November.

The event is held at the FFA Center (FFA - Future Farmers of America) in White Lake. The lake is beautiful with a lot of Spanish moss in the trees. The water is clear and nice to swim in (temperature notwithstanding). The bike is flat and fast but all of the roads are not super smooth (one in particular had a lot of kerthuk-kerthunk when I did the fall oly a few weeks ago). The run is flat and hot and not scenic with virtually no shade. They do a nice job with the finish line and the post race is pretty nice too and they had a few food trucks for spectators/non-pizza eaters the times I've been there. There is not a lot in the way of nearby hotels.

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Has anyone ever raced White Lake half in the spring? Only thing I've heard is the water is cold. Anyone else have the 4-1-1?


I raced the White Lake Olympic in the spring of 2017 and the spring sprint in 2016, though it looks like I never made a race report in 2017 but the 2016 report can be found here). I don't remember the water being particularly cold either time but I do remember the run being quite hot (with lots of jokes among racers about "white bake"). The water is as clear as you will find in NC lakes and truly beautiful (see photos in the race report).

The run is flat but there is almost no shade to be had in the shorter distances - I can't speak to the HIM. The bike is relatively flat as well. Crowds are minimal but supportive and the race is well run IMO. My biggest complaint is that there aren't many accommodation options near the race. The first year I did it, stayed in a hotel, but the drive was still 30+ minutes so the next couple of times I just drove straight from Raleigh on race morning.

Janyne has more experience with it than I do, as well as more races in the area in general for comparison. On the whole, I really enjoy White Lake, both spring and fall.

Long answer to the question, but at least when I did it in spring, it a was pretty warm and the lake was refreshing but not especially cold. ymmv of course.

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Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by melbo55

Originally posted by jmkizer

I meant to post this last week but I was sidetracked by Florence. I hope that everyone is doing well and that there is no additional flooding in PA or WNC. We need a report from Nancy on the status of the Savannah River in advance of Augusta 70.3 this weekend.

This is the list that I have compiled so far on meetup ideas. What say you?

2019 Manatee Meetup Ideas

RAGNAR Richmond April 26-27
https://www.runragnar.com/event-detail/trail/richmond_va#overview

Bolder Boulder on May 27
https://www.bolderboulder.com/

Eagle Up Ultra relay, Ohio, June 8-9
http://www.runcanton.com/eagle-up-ultra

Iromman St. George 70.3
http://www.ironman.com/triathlon/events/americas/ironman-70.3/st.-george.aspx

(And if we are going to throw in HIM events, I’ll add Augusta, Williamsburg, and Lake Logan)

I like this list!  

You have some good ones on your list too! Zion HM, Death Valley HM... We have to see what we can get people interested in :-)

A friend has been trying to get a group of us together to do bolder boulder -he does it just about every year, he is really pushing for 2019, so there is a chance I'll be there.  Another friend wants us to go back to Zion for the HM we didn't get to run in 2018 b/c we both had injuries. Still went and had a blast, but we need race redemption! Speaking of race redemption, I may need to find it for lake logan, but it is too far away for me to commit now. 

ETA: it seems i require a lot of redemption races - IM, Zion, LL! I'm a slacker!!



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Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by melbo55

Originally posted by jmkizer

I meant to post this last week but I was sidetracked by Florence. I hope that everyone is doing well and that there is no additional flooding in PA or WNC. We need a report from Nancy on the status of the Savannah River in advance of Augusta 70.3 this weekend.

This is the list that I have compiled so far on meetup ideas. What say you?

2019 Manatee Meetup Ideas

RAGNAR Richmond April 26-27
https://www.runragnar.com/event-detail/trail/richmond_va#overview

Bolder Boulder on May 27
https://www.bolderboulder.com/

Eagle Up Ultra relay, Ohio, June 8-9
http://www.runcanton.com/eagle-up-ultra

Iromman St. George 70.3
http://www.ironman.com/triathlon/events/americas/ironman-70.3/st.-george.aspx

(And if we are going to throw in HIM events, I’ll add Augusta, Williamsburg, and Lake Logan)

I like this list!  

You have some good ones on your list too! Zion HM, Death Valley HM... We have to see what we can get people interested in :-)

A friend has been trying to get a group of us together to do bolder boulder -he does it just about every year, he is really pushing for 2019, so there is a chance I'll be there.  Another friend wants us to go back to Zion for the HM we didn't get to run in 2018 b/c we both had injuries. Still went and had a blast, but we need race redemption! Speaking of race redemption, I may need to find it for lake logan, but it is too far away for me to commit now. 

ETA: it seems i require a lot of redemption races - IM, Zion, LL! I'm a slacker!!

Keep us in mind as you get your 2019 schedule together!



2018-09-19 8:23 AM
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Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by melbo55

Originally posted by jmkizer

I meant to post this last week but I was sidetracked by Florence. I hope that everyone is doing well and that there is no additional flooding in PA or WNC. We need a report from Nancy on the status of the Savannah River in advance of Augusta 70.3 this weekend.

This is the list that I have compiled so far on meetup ideas. What say you?

2019 Manatee Meetup Ideas

RAGNAR Richmond April 26-27
https://www.runragnar.com/event-detail/trail/richmond_va#overview

Bolder Boulder on May 27
https://www.bolderboulder.com/

Eagle Up Ultra relay, Ohio, June 8-9
http://www.runcanton.com/eagle-up-ultra

Iromman St. George 70.3
http://www.ironman.com/triathlon/events/americas/ironman-70.3/st.-george.aspx

(And if we are going to throw in HIM events, I’ll add Augusta, Williamsburg, and Lake Logan)

I like this list!  

You have some good ones on your list too! Zion HM, Death Valley HM... We have to see what we can get people interested in :-)

A friend has been trying to get a group of us together to do bolder boulder -he does it just about every year, he is really pushing for 2019, so there is a chance I'll be there.  Another friend wants us to go back to Zion for the HM we didn't get to run in 2018 b/c we both had injuries. Still went and had a blast, but we need race redemption! Speaking of race redemption, I may need to find it for lake logan, but it is too far away for me to commit now. 

ETA: it seems i require a lot of redemption races - IM, Zion, LL! I'm a slacker!!

Keep us in mind as you get your 2019 schedule together!

Oops! 2019 Zion half marathon is sold out...

2018-09-19 8:26 AM
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Originally posted by Hot Runner I've signed up for St. George, but really afraid to commit to anything for summer for the indefinite future. Just absolutely no idea where I'll be employment-wise, or where I'll be living or moving to. I've only just started putting in applications for districts that accept them year-round; most schools won't know their 2019 vacancies till at least April or reach out to possible external hires until May or June at the earliest. In any case, run race meet-ups would be nice as they involve less stuff to haul around in the car if it's a road trip. Crazy weekend of training and still feeling a bit hung-over from it. I think this is what my coach calls a "triple". She has it down for some weeks in TP but when I asked what that meant she said, "You don't want to know." (?!) Basically, I did an Ironman (a tad less on the bike and run, but not by much), just within about 30 hours instead of 17, with a 10-hour nap in the middle and out of order (bike--actually with a brick run, swim, run). Yikes! Not sure if this is others' experience with IM training but really, what I'm struggling most with is just being totally sick of gu, energy bars, etc. after a while. I'm finishing long workouts thinking obsessively about stuff like BBQ and hot dogs (and I don't even like the latter--it just sounds really different than gu)!

I don't do gus, but I do get sooo tired of my nutrition on long bikes! I started to bring a couple of small red potatoes and eat them about 1/2 through. I find this really helps -especially mentally!  I also bring a payday bar just in case. So far I haven't needed it on the bike, but it gets consumed very shortly afterward.

What I struggle most with in IM training is the mental aspect of the long, slow miles. I just want to go fast and be done! And, I want to be able to run off the bike the same way I can on shorter triathlons or stand alone runs.  For some reason  I can't do that on IM distance stuff and I am not amused!!

2018-09-19 8:35 AM
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  I also bring a payday bar just in case. So far I haven't needed it on the bike, but it gets consumed very shortly afterward.

What I struggle most with in IM training is the mental aspect of the long, slow miles. I just want to go fast and be done! And, I want to be able to run off the bike the same way I can on shorter triathlons or stand alone runs.  For some reason 



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Originally posted by amd723   I also bring a payday bar just in case. So far I haven't needed it on the bike, but it gets consumed very shortly afterward.

What I struggle most with in IM training is the mental aspect of the long, slow miles. I just want to go fast and be done! And, I want to be able to run off the bike the same way I can on shorter triathlons or stand alone runs.  For some reason 

just picked up a bag of minis and they're in my bag packed for choo!! Find me if you want one on the run

Sweet!!

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