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2012-05-31 5:24 AM

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2012-05-31 5:47 AM
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Waste of time. Are they going to ban refills? Are they going to monitor how many sodas a person purchases at the grocery store?

Just my opinion of course.

2012-05-31 5:48 AM
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Good on them. I live in NJ and i see it all the time. Look at the cans now, there 3 times the size, and holy friken crap the super size stuff is 1.5 liters WTF?! they need to start controlling portions again!  
2012-05-31 6:36 AM
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temoniprince - 2012-05-31 6:48 AM

Good on them. I live in NJ and i see it all the time. Look at the cans now, there 3 times the size, and holy friken crap the super size stuff is 1.5 liters WTF?! they need to start controlling portions again!  


We the consumer are controlling portions. We want the super sized drink. This is a terrible idea and it only hurts the consumer. Now instead of ordering the 24oz soda, the guy that wants the bigger drink orders two 16 oz sodas, getting 33% more sugar than the 24 oz at probably just under twice the cost. It is not the governments job to protect us from making poor choices.
2012-05-31 7:41 AM
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Subject: RE: NYC proposes ban on sale of oversized sodas, sugary drinks
More "nanny state" attitudes.  People need to make personal decisions.  Cigarettes are FAR worse than large sodas but they are not banned.  Maybe the cola industry needs better lobbyists.
2012-05-31 7:51 AM
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"The proposed first-in-the-nation ban would impose a 16-ounce limit on the size of sweetened drinks sold at restaurants, movie theaters, sports venues and street carts. It would apply to bottled drinks as well as fountain sodas."

What about 7-11? They can take my big gulp slurpee when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!


2012-05-31 8:16 AM
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I’m a fan of the mayor in general. I was resistant to the idea of the smoking ban he enacted years ago (although I’m not a smoker), but in hindsight it’s really improved the experience of going out to bars at night and not having to come home smelling like smoke. I also like that people aren’t allowed to smoke in offices anymore. The mayor has also been instrumental in improving cycling in the city, so big props to him for that.

This one, though, I’m not sure about. I get what he’s trying to do but I think this is the wrong way to go about it. My wife and son and I went to the movies on Sunday and got one super-sized lemonade for us all to share, which was much cheaper than if we had had to buy three smaller drinks.

And the point about refills is a good one.
2012-05-31 8:31 AM
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"The ban, which could take effect as soon as March, would not apply to diet sodas, fruit juices, dairy-based drinks or alcoholic beverages. Nor would it include drinks sold in grocery or convenience stores."

Why can they regulate the size of a soda at a movie theater or sports venue, but not one you buy at the convenience store?

I think it's a silly "ban" and needs to be trashed. 

2012-05-31 8:38 AM
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People cannot be trusted. Each of us should have a chip implanted in our brains so the government can make our decisions for us.

Our purpose is merely to pay taxes and serve government.

2012-05-31 8:42 AM
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They were one of the first areas to ban trans-fat deep frying.  Now look at how fit they all are!

 You want a "more fit NYC?"  Ban cars, computers and tv's.

2012-05-31 8:47 AM
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It is just ridiculous.  What's next - french fries?  Where do you draw the line?  I would rather see them go after parents that stuff their kids full of Fast Food 5 nights per week.  


2012-05-31 8:48 AM
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I'm a recovering sugar/food/soda addict, and I think people need a wake up call to the insanity of drinking 600 calories at once in a soda.

But this is not the way to do it. All that legal prohibition does, is to create more demand for the now taboo thing. That's the strategic problem. Watch Boardwalk Empire.

But that doesn't even matter, in the face of the freedom problem, which is ever bigger.

Banning smoke in public places makes sense as it is an infringement on people breathing the same air. This has no immediate effect on the person next to you. The long term effects of obesity on healthcare costs are another matter, but then you let private companies charge more for obesity coverage like they do for smokers.

You just can't legislate it.

2012-05-31 8:53 AM
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scoobysdad - 2012-05-31 6:38 AM People cannot be trusted. Each of us should have a chip implanted in our brains so the government can make our decisions for us. Our purpose is merely to pay taxes and serve government.

Or we could just be batteries to power the government machine...

2012-05-31 9:03 AM
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Couldn't you just buy two?
2012-05-31 9:31 AM
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scoobysdad - Our purpose is merely to pay taxes and serve government.

I have a young friend who is a socialist.  
He attends NYU.
He also smokes.

Taxes in NY are something like $4.50 a pack, which puts a pack of cigarettes at around $9.00 or $9.50.

My young friend now brings cigarettes from Philadelphia and sells them to his socialist leaning friends in NYC at a profit. A pack in Philly is around $4.00 or something like that.

Why?

Because he doesn't want to pay the taxes in NY
even though he thinks that we the people aren't taxed enough.

Go figure.

 

2012-05-31 9:39 AM
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They have already removed the extra large drink at McDonalds.  I like their unsweetened iced tea and an extra large lasted me all morning and through lunch and it was a buck.  I was pissed, but they said they received government pressure to get rid of it.  I don't want the hassle of carrying two cups everywhere!

Why don't they go after Starbucks and the Venti size of all their Frap's?  One I looked at was 550 calories and 18g of fat...seems like they need policing too... Wink



2012-05-31 9:46 AM
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Subject: RE: NYC proposes ban on sale of oversized sodas, sugary drinks

The ban does not apply to diet sodas so I'd anticipate a lot of establishments switching to self serve fountain style beverages - order a jumbo diet coke, fill up with coke, success.

EDIT: The above post is interesting...

I applaud the thought, but at some point people just need to be held responsible for their actions. That, and how can you say this is for peoples health while at the same time you are catering to and protecting the obese's right to be obese? (IE: Escalators instead of stairs and discrimination law)



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pitt83 - 2012-05-31 8:51 AM "The proposed first-in-the-nation ban would impose a 16-ounce limit on the size of sweetened drinks sold at restaurants, movie theaters, sports venues and street carts. It would apply to bottled drinks as well as fountain sodas." What about 7-11? They can take my big gulp slurpee when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!

I'm with you on that one!!!

2012-05-31 9:52 AM
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dontracy - 2012-05-31 7:31 AM

scoobysdad - Our purpose is merely to pay taxes and serve government.

I have a young friend who is a socialist.  
He attends NYU.
He also smokes.

Taxes in NY are something like $4.50 a pack, which puts a pack of cigarettes at around $9.00 or $9.50.

My young friend now brings cigarettes from Philadelphia and sells them to his socialist leaning friends in NYC at a profit. A pack in Philly is around $4.00 or something like that.

Why?

Because he doesn't want to pay the taxes in NY
even though he thinks that we the people aren't taxed enough.

Go figure.

 

So you are saying that because someone is a socialist it means they everyone to be taxed more?  

If you don't like the law (which is likely not to pass) then don't move to NY.  Dang, wonder what happens if everyone in NY moved out cause they don't like the law.  Cause I keep getting told if you don't like something about a state just move...

2012-05-31 9:59 AM
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bzgl40 - 2012-05-31 10:52 AM

dontracy - 2012-05-31 7:31 AM

scoobysdad - Our purpose is merely to pay taxes and serve government.

I have a young friend who is a socialist.  
He attends NYU.
He also smokes.

Taxes in NY are something like $4.50 a pack, which puts a pack of cigarettes at around $9.00 or $9.50.

My young friend now brings cigarettes from Philadelphia and sells them to his socialist leaning friends in NYC at a profit. A pack in Philly is around $4.00 or something like that.

Why?

Because he doesn't want to pay the taxes in NY
even though he thinks that we the people aren't taxed enough.

Go figure.

 

So you are saying that because someone is a socialist it means they everyone to be taxed more?  

If you don't like the law (which is likely not to pass) then don't move to NY.  Dang, wonder what happens if everyone in NY moved out cause they don't like the law.  Cause I keep getting told if you don't like something about a state just move...



Not to hijack, but the funnier thing is that he is selling them at a profit. As a socialist he shouldn't be charging the poor unfortunate people who don't have a means to go to Philly to buy cheap cigs a premium. Capitalism sucks unless I am the beneficiary, this is the real comedy of the situation.

2012-05-31 10:03 AM
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SGriepsma - 2012-05-31 10:39 AM

They have already removed the extra large drink at McDonalds.  I like their unsweetened iced tea and an extra large lasted me all morning and through lunch and it was a buck.  I was pissed, but they said they received government pressure to get rid of it.  I don't want the hassle of carrying two cups everywhere!

Why don't they go after Starbucks and the Venti size of all their Frap's?  One I looked at was 550 calories and 18g of fat...seems like they need policing too... Wink

They are.  Sweetened coffee drinks over 16oz are on the "verboten" list.



2012-05-31 10:05 AM
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bzgl40 - 2012-05-31 10:52 AM
dontracy - 2012-05-31 7:31 AM

scoobysdad - Our purpose is merely to pay taxes and serve government.

I have a young friend who is a socialist.  
He attends NYU.
He also smokes.

Taxes in NY are something like $4.50 a pack, which puts a pack of cigarettes at around $9.00 or $9.50.

My young friend now brings cigarettes from Philadelphia and sells them to his socialist leaning friends in NYC at a profit. A pack in Philly is around $4.00 or something like that.

Why?

Because he doesn't want to pay the taxes in NY
even though he thinks that we the people aren't taxed enough.

Go figure.

 

So you are saying that because someone is a socialist it means they everyone to be taxed more?  

If you don't like the law (which is likely not to pass) then don't move to NY.  Dang, wonder what happens if everyone in NY moved out cause they don't like the law.  Cause I keep getting told if you don't like something about a state just move...

No the point is that if he is a true "socialist" he should be paying the local taxes to support the local services that he, and others enjoy.

Furthermore by subverting the taxes, and then by making a profit off of it, he's the socialist pot calling the capitalist kettle black...

2012-05-31 10:10 AM
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temoniprince - 2012-05-31 5:48 AM Good on them. I live in NJ and i see it all the time. Look at the cans now, there 3 times the size, and holy friken crap the super size stuff is 1.5 liters WTF?! they need to start controlling portions again!  

So don't buy the big can, problem solved.
I've seen little baby cans and little baby plastic bottles of soda in the gas stations lately - I want to say they are 10 or 12 ounces (as opposed to the standard 20 oz). There is absolutely nothing stopping people from grabbing a smaller portion or, goodness, a healthier choice. Just like there would be absolutely nothing stopping NYC consumers from buying two or more 16oz drinks.

It's like they didn't think this thing through. Shocking.

2012-05-31 10:16 AM
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DanielG - 2012-05-31 6:24 AM

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/story/2012-05-31/soda-ban-new-y...

I'm curious about people's take on this.



It is Pure Idiocy.
2012-05-31 10:16 AM
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Fine. Makes more of a difference than doing nothing. Maybe a couple people won't order 2 larges and be shocked to discover that, "hey, yeah, I don't need that much." And then maybe one day they will realize that they don't need it at all.

Fact is that marketing controls people. People don't know it. So get up in arms about the government trying to control you, just because it is blatant.
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