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 2009-08-19 10:26 AM |
 4 |  Subject: Can my friend run along side me during a 70.3?Can my friend run along side me during a 70.3? I thought it might violate a rule, but I haven't found anything. |
| 2009-08-19 10:27 AM in reply to: #2357910 |
 over a barrier | Subject: RE: Can my friend run along side me during a 70.3? You can not receive outside pacing..... |
| 2009-08-19 10:29 AM in reply to: #2357910 |
Coach 10487   Boston, MA | Subject: RE: Can my friend run along side me during a 70.3? no d.Unauthorized Assistance. No participant shall accept from any person (other than a race official) physical assistance in any form, including food, drink, equipment, support, pacing, a replacement bicycle or bicycle parts, unless an express exception has been granted and approved, in writing, by USA Triathlon. The receipt of information regarding the progress, split times, or location of other competitors on the race course shall not be considered the acceptance of unauthorized assistance. Any violation of this Section shall result in a variable time penalty. Edited by JorgeM 2009-08-19 10:33 AM |
| 2009-08-19 10:31 AM in reply to: #2357910 |
Pro 4100 Wherever the trail takes me, WA. | Subject: RE: Can my friend run along side me during a 70.3? NEGATORY!!! |
| 2009-08-19 10:43 AM in reply to: #2357910 |
| 4 | Subject: RE: Can my friend run along side me during a 70.3? That was QUICK! Thanks everyone. |
| 2009-08-19 10:47 AM in reply to: #2357910 |
Master 1963  | Subject: RE: Can my friend run along side me during a 70.3? no Edited by merlin2375 2009-08-19 10:47 AM |
| 2009-08-19 11:04 AM in reply to: #2357910 |
Champion 5782 Northridge, California | Subject: RE: Can my friend run along side me during a 70.3? Of course the fact that it's against the rules doesn't stop people from doing it. Not only do I see it on the course, but you'll find people saying how their spouses ran with them for awhile in their IM race reports here. |
| 2009-08-19 11:09 AM in reply to: #2357910 |
Expert 2555 Colorado Springs, Colorado | Subject: RE: Can my friend run along side me during a 70.3? Sure, your friend can run next to you, but you risk being DQed. There are plenty of people in a 70.3, just run next to one of them and make a new friend. |
| 2009-08-19 11:32 AM in reply to: #2357910 |
Extreme Veteran 318 Lunenburg, Nova Scotia | Subject: RE: Can my friend run along side me during a 70.3? Sure, your friend can run with you. Just get him or her to sign up for the race. |
| 2009-08-19 11:39 AM in reply to: #2357910 |
| Expert 936 Salisbury | Subject: RE: Can my friend run along side me during a 70.3? Depends on if it's a USAT race. My first tri didn't have a rule against it and the guy next to me had his son ride his bike next to him on the run.
Edit: I guess by saying 70.3 you mean an "official" HIM...or whatever. I read 70.3 and think HIM so it's possible not to be a USAT event. Edited by Rencor 2009-08-19 11:40 AM |
| 2009-08-19 12:13 PM in reply to: #2357910 |
Master 1641 Seattle, California | Subject: RE: Can my friend run along side me during a 70.3? Official rules say no. I think though it depends on your situation and for how long. If you are BOP and it's for a KM just to chat or something I don't think anyone is going to care. The more competitive you are the more others will see this as an issue. In any case a 5 min chat is one thing, the whole race is completely different. The rules sometimes are bent slightly for people at the BOP (meaning they are less strictly enforced). You always run the risk of being DQ'ed for it though and need to make sure you are ok if you take that chance and it happens. You can't complain that you got DQ'ed for something like this. Rules are rules and even if they are not always enforced you have to be prepared for the chance that this time they might be. |
| 2009-08-19 12:47 PM in reply to: #2358190 |
Champion 8766 Evergreen, Colorado | Subject: RE: Can my friend run along side me during a 70.3? Global - 2009-08-19 12:13 PM Official rules say no. I think though it depends on your situation and for how long. If you are BOP and it's for a KM just to chat or something I don't think anyone is going to care. The more competitive you are the more others will see this as an issue. In any case a 5 min chat is one thing, the whole race is completely different. The rules sometimes are bent slightly for people at the BOP (meaning they are less strictly enforced). You always run the risk of being DQ'ed for it though and need to make sure you are ok if you take that chance and it happens. You can't complain that you got DQ'ed for something like this. Rules are rules and even if they are not always enforced you have to be prepared for the chance that this time they might be. I'd agree. I had some friends run alongside me for a few minutes during my IM...really just so they could chat and see how I was doing so I wouldn't have to stop to talk to them. But I kept getting all worried that I would get DQ'ed and thus asked them not to do it for too long. And honestly, I would never let anyone run alongside me to pace me because it IS against the rules. But I also think there is a huge difference between someone doing what I just talked about and someone having a rabbit pace them to their Kona spot. |
| 2009-08-19 12:55 PM in reply to: #2357910 |
Elite 2645 Phoenix, AZ | Subject: RE: Can my friend run along side me during a 70.3? Just make sure they wear khakis and dress shoes. Then it's obvious they aren't pacing you. :P |
| 2009-08-19 1:00 PM in reply to: #2357910 |
Champion 6962 Atlanta, Ga | Subject: RE: Can my friend run along side me during a 70.3? At IM FL last year a friend of mine was riding his bike around the course and saw someone he knew. He said he wasn't :30 into saying Hi when an official came by and gave the runner a 4 min penalty. On that same note, Nan 'ran' with me on my second loop of Wisconsin last year for about 100 yds. There is actually a picture of it (phtographer happenned to be there) and I have it framed. Was she pacing me? NO. Could I have gotten a penalty? YES. |
| 2009-08-19 1:12 PM in reply to: #2357910 |
Champion 8540 the colony texas | Subject: RE: Can my friend run along side me during a 70.3? *****Insert family coming across finishing line joke here *** |
| 2009-08-19 1:26 PM in reply to: #2358304 |
| Alpharetta, Georgia | Subject: RE: Can my friend run along side me during a 70.3? Marvarnett - 2009-08-19 1:00 PM At IM FL last year a friend of mine was riding his bike around the course and saw someone he knew. He said he wasn't :30 into saying Hi when an official came by and gave the runner a 4 min penalty. In a 70.3 race last year I'd found a running budy. Her brother had already finished and was riding around the run couse looking for her. He found us (her) and rode alongside for a few minutes to see how she was doing. I'd be mad if I ended up getting a penalty for someone I didn't even know breaking the rules. Hmmm wonder if that's ever happened, or if they take anything like that into account when giving penalties. Perhaps the answer would be that I could have dropped back and was still at fault for running alongside the bike? Probably. |
| 2009-08-19 1:27 PM in reply to: #2358092 |
| Veteran 216 | Subject: RE: Can my friend run along side me during a 70.3? so just because the person signs up (i.e. pays) for the race, he/she is no longer giving assistance by running beside you? |
| 2009-08-19 1:29 PM in reply to: #2358380 |
| Subject: RE: Can my friend run along side me during a 70.3? big joe - 2009-08-19 11:27 AM so just because the person signs up (i.e. pays) for the race, he/she is no longer giving assistance by running beside you? Correct. You can run with another competitor |
| 2009-08-19 1:33 PM in reply to: #2357910 |
Regular 128 Richmond | Subject: RE: Can my friend run along side me during a 70.3? Interesting tread, I don't mean to hijack it but I was planning on having my son run the last hundred or so yards across the finish line with me at a sprint. I just kind of wanted him to experience that with me hoping he would want to give it a tri. Do you think they will penalize me. I really don't care but I wouldn't want some saying something mean to him. |
| 2009-08-19 1:37 PM in reply to: #2358399 |
| Subject: RE: Can my friend run along side me during a 70.3? besttri - 2009-08-19 11:33 AM Interesting tread, I don't mean to hijack it but I was planning on having my son run the last hundred or so yards across the finish line with me at a sprint. I just kind of wanted him to experience that with me hoping he would want to give it a tri. Do you think they will penalize me. I really don't care but I wouldn't want some saying something mean to him. They may penalize you. They probably won't. Doubtful anyone would take it out on your kid instead of you, if anyone says anything |
| 2009-08-19 1:42 PM in reply to: #2358399 |
Master 1641 Seattle, California | Subject: RE: Can my friend run along side me during a 70.3? besttri - 2009-08-19 11:33 AM Interesting tread, I don't mean to hijack it but I was planning on having my son run the last hundred or so yards across the finish line with me at a sprint. I just kind of wanted him to experience that with me hoping he would want to give it a tri. Do you think they will penalize me. I really don't care but I wouldn't want some saying something mean to him. I can't imagine anyone saying anything to someone running across the line with their kid at a sprint. As long as your kid doesn't interfere with another persons race you will be fine. Just make sure you are respectful to everyone else and don't clog the finish chute if someone is behind you. |
| 2009-08-19 1:42 PM in reply to: #2358399 |
| Alpharetta, Georgia | Subject: RE: Can my friend run along side me during a 70.3? besttri - 2009-08-19 1:33 PM Interesting tread, I don't mean to hijack it but I was planning on having my son run the last hundred or so yards across the finish line with me at a sprint. I just kind of wanted him to experience that with me hoping he would want to give it a tri. Do you think they will penalize me. I really don't care but I wouldn't want some saying something mean to him. I would check the race rules beforehand. A lot of races prohibit it. |
| 2009-08-19 2:07 PM in reply to: #2358424 |
Champion 6962 Atlanta, Ga | Subject: RE: Can my friend run along side me during a 70.3? lisac957 - 2009-08-19 2:42 PM besttri - 2009-08-19 1:33 PM Interesting tread, I don't mean to hijack it but I was planning on having my son run the last hundred or so yards across the finish line with me at a sprint. I just kind of wanted him to experience that with me hoping he would want to give it a tri. Do you think they will penalize me. I really don't care but I wouldn't want some saying something mean to him. I would check the race rules beforehand. A lot of races prohibit it. Exactly! If the race allows it then be my guest. BUT even if it is allowed, be mindful of those around you. If person A is sprinting down the chute to make a time goal and doesn't see your 3 yr old and runs over him/her...that's bad for everyone involved. Races such as IM are now making it a DQ if anyone crosses the finish line with you. But I have finished with my IronSherpa (wife) in a small non-USAT race before. |
| 2009-08-19 2:19 PM in reply to: #2357910 |
Champion 11989 Philly 'burbs | Subject: RE: Can my friend run along side me during a 70.3? It is disruptive to the finish process (medal, water, remove chip, get athlete out of the way, deal with any medical needs, etc.) to have friends and family in the finish area. Whoever isn't a participant, official, or volunteer should not be there. I personally do not like to see anyone on the course at all (finish or otherwise) who is not officially connected with the event. |
| 2009-08-19 5:43 PM in reply to: #2358532 |
Pro 6520 Bellingham, WA | Subject: RE: Can my friend run along side me during a 70.3? mrbbrad - 2009-08-19 2:19 PM It is disruptive to the finish process (medal, water, remove chip, get athlete out of the way, deal with any medical needs, etc.) to have friends and family in the finish area. Whoever isn't a participant, official, or volunteer should not be there. I personally do not like to see anyone on the course at all (finish or otherwise) who is not officially connected with the event. I agree with this. I have seen some pretty frenzied volunteers trying to keep finish areas functioning safely and smoothly with the last thing they needing were additional bodies to funnel. I saw an exhausted participant trip over a toddler in a finish area this year and he was not happy about it. Also, back to the OP's question, should your friend also be allowed to feed you and provide you hydration? Its a slippery slope when you start bending the rules. A race is a race. |
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