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 2016-08-13 10:34 AM in reply to: Hot Runner |
Expert  2811   |  Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à troisOriginally posted by Hot Runner OMG Now I have one more thing to be paranoid about. (My Danang RR features multiple stings during the WARMUP, plus a paranoia fit after an older Aussie was talking about getting stung in the mouth. I WALKED the first 150m or so of the swim, not because I could, or because I'm not a good swimmer, but because I was terrified of getting stung in the mouth! ) Okay....calm down....if my goggles are on, they can't get me in the eye. Right?? Sharks at Virginia Beach--Gaaaack! We used to go to Virginia Beach at spring break when I was a kid and I swam there a lot! Yet another reason it's pretty amazing I survived to adulthood. He was wave crashing on Coast Guard Day, no googles just goofing around. I'm sure you're safe w/ googles on. My wife is in the same A/G as you, so I'm sure it was safe when you were a kid  |
| 2016-08-13 10:36 AM in reply to: JBacarella |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Does anybody have experience with the run/walk method for the run leg of the IM? I am toying with the idea, but have never really tried it. |
| 2016-08-13 12:12 PM in reply to: amd723 |
Master 10208  Northern IL | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by Hot Runner OMG Now I have one more thing to be paranoid about. (My Danang RR features multiple stings during the WARMUP, plus a paranoia fit after an older Aussie was talking about getting stung in the mouth. I WALKED the first 150m or so of the swim, not because I could, or because I'm not a good swimmer, but because I was terrified of getting stung in the mouth! ) Okay....calm down....if my goggles are on, they can't get me in the eye. Right?? Sharks at Virginia Beach--Gaaaack! We used to go to Virginia Beach at spring break when I was a kid and I swam there a lot! Yet another reason it's pretty amazing I survived to adulthood. Ha! They will routinely show pictures of the beach taken by someone in a plane or helicopter and not very far from the swimmers are sharks. We just don't realize how close they are! Another good reason to be towards the back? |
| 2016-08-13 12:17 PM in reply to: brigby1 |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Had trouble getting the Olympics streaming this morning for a trainer ride, but some XC mountain biking on RedBullTV was working just fine. Have to remember this more often. |
| 2016-08-13 4:38 PM in reply to: JBacarella |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by JBacarella Does anybody have experience with the run/walk method for the run leg of the IM? I am toying with the idea, but have never really tried it. Haven't tried it as a plan in a race, but have used it about every time when coming back from injury. Have you read up on Galloway? This is exactly what they work on developing. |
| 2016-08-13 6:24 PM in reply to: 0 |
Master 8249  Eugene, Oregon Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by brigby1 Another good reason to be towards the back? Yep, that's the only plus of the swim wave timing--sharks should be satiated by then. Anyway, as one of my friends in Hawaii pointed out, I'm not the most appealing prey out there--not much for the shark to eat. Surely in a group of mostly buff "world-class" triathletes, most people are going to be bigger/ meatier than I am! Olympics coverage here SUCKS! I have a three-hour ride and somehow, badminton from an Indian TV channel is not going to cut it. There is literally five minutes or less of track coverage per day. Yesterday saw ONE HEAT of the men's 100m (a slow one). The day before that it was two false starts in the women's heptathlon 100m. Can just visualize them checking off the "track and field" box on their desks. "And now, back to team handball/badminton/ shooting!" Probably time for the crazy Germans on HD Cycling again. (I could do the ride outside, but it's hot, and the industrial park is really no more interesting than the trainer, just hotter and with stray dogs and the occasional motorbike, and deadly traffic to/from the park.) To be honest, most days here, I'd rather be home on the trainer. Edited by Hot Runner 2016-08-13 6:29 PM |
| 2016-08-13 9:38 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Veteran 2441 Western Australia | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by jmkizer So I'm late but go racing Manatees. Have fun. Racing Manatees!!! August 13-14 Thanks for all your thoughts and prayers about Abbi, we really appreciate it. |
| 2016-08-13 9:47 PM in reply to: JBacarella |
Veteran 2441 Western Australia | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by JBacarella I run walk every single run I do including races. I use a 4minute/1minute ratio at present. In races I also walk the aid stations. For the first half I stick to it very closely, in the second half if I am feeling good I skip the odd walk. I just program the intervals into my watch and off I go. Sure at the start I get passed by a lot of people, but about about 2/3s of the distance I normally start passing people.Does anybody have experience with the run/walk method for the run leg of the IM? I am toying with the idea, but have never really tried it. |
| 2016-08-14 8:43 AM in reply to: StaceyK |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by StaceyK Originally posted by JBacarella I run walk every single run I do including races. I use a 4minute/1minute ratio at present. In races I also walk the aid stations. For the first half I stick to it very closely, in the second half if I am feeling good I skip the odd walk. I just program the intervals into my watch and off I go. Sure at the start I get passed by a lot of people, but about about 2/3s of the distance I normally start passing people. Does anybody have experience with the run/walk method for the run leg of the IM? I am toying with the idea, but have never really tried it. Do you start that cycle of 4/1 immediately upon the start of the run, or do you have a preliminary time/distance you do before starting the cycle? |
| 2016-08-14 4:34 PM in reply to: JBacarella |
Veteran 1900 Southampton, Ontario | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois I just typed up a nice 5 or 6 paragraph on my 160km gravel race, closed my laptop and lost it. I will try to type it up again. It was a very long day with steep up and down hills at the beginning, torrential rain right in the middle, and thankfully a relatively flat run in to the end. 7.5HRS!!! to cover 156km. Hard but certainly worth it. |
| 2016-08-14 8:43 PM in reply to: 0 |
Veteran 2441 Western Australia | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by JBacarella I normally start it pretty much straight away. With run events I have found that it helps to stop me from going out too fast and in triathlons (which it feels like I haven't done for years) I'm normally pretty stuffed when I get off the bike so I make myself run the first 4 minutes to get into a rhythm before I allow myself to walk. Originally posted by StaceyK Originally posted by JBacarella I run walk every single run I do including races. I use a 4minute/1minute ratio at present. In races I also walk the aid stations. For the first half I stick to it very closely, in the second half if I am feeling good I skip the odd walk. I just program the intervals into my watch and off I go. Sure at the start I get passed by a lot of people, but about about 2/3s of the distance I normally start passing people. Does anybody have experience with the run/walk method for the run leg of the IM? I am toying with the idea, but have never really tried it. Do you start that cycle of 4/1 immediately upon the start of the run, or do you have a preliminary time/distance you do before starting the cycle? The other thing that it helps me with is motivation to get to the end. Generally I average 2km per 15 minutes using this method (yes I am that slow). So rather than counting minutes or distance I tend to count down in intervals so rather than thinking ok 4km to go I find myself saying things like "ok only 6 more run intervals to go, I can do that no worries" For some reason my brain finds 6 run intervals less daunting than 4km. I have noticed however that with my 4/1 I always end up running up the hills and the walk interval starts just as I get over the crest - I guess its Murphy's law. (edit to fix my spelling) Edited by StaceyK 2016-08-14 8:45 PM |
| 2016-08-15 7:23 AM in reply to: JBacarella |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by JBacarella Does anybody have experience with the run/walk method for the run leg of the IM? I am toying with the idea, but have never really tried it. I walk the aid stations so I guess that's run a mile, walk the aid station. In fact, most people that I see on course are doing something similar. |
| 2016-08-15 7:40 AM in reply to: JBacarella |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by JBacarella Originally posted by StaceyK Do you start that cycle of 4/1 immediately upon the start of the run, or do you have a preliminary time/distance you do before starting the cycle? Originally posted by JBacarella Does anybody have experience with the run/walk method for the run leg of the IM? I am toying with the idea, but have never really tried it. I run walk every single run I do including races. I use a 4minute/1minute ratio at present. In races I also walk the aid stations. For the first half I stick to it very closely, in the second half if I am feeling good I skip the odd walk. I just program the intervals into my watch and off I go. Sure at the start I get passed by a lot of people, but about about 2/3s of the distance I normally start passing people. Go with the pattern from the start. Otherwise it's not really different from the mindset of starting out faster "while you have the energy". The idea is to keep a more even pacing throughout which in this case would also include the run/walk pattern. If you find the energy later, then you could expand the interval. That would be equivalent to picking up the pace. |
| 2016-08-15 7:50 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by JBacarella Originally posted by StaceyK Do you start that cycle of 4/1 immediately upon the start of the run, or do you have a preliminary time/distance you do before starting the cycle? Originally posted by JBacarella Does anybody have experience with the run/walk method for the run leg of the IM? I am toying with the idea, but have never really tried it. I run walk every single run I do including races. I use a 4minute/1minute ratio at present. In races I also walk the aid stations. For the first half I stick to it very closely, in the second half if I am feeling good I skip the odd walk. I just program the intervals into my watch and off I go. Sure at the start I get passed by a lot of people, but about about 2/3s of the distance I normally start passing people. Go with the pattern from the start. Otherwise it's not really different from the mindset of starting out faster "while you have the energy". The idea is to keep a more even pacing throughout which in this case would also include the run/walk pattern. If you find the energy later, then you could expand the interval. That would be equivalent to picking up the pace. Yes, make a plan and stick to it. My plan is to run between aid stations. Still need to nail down my run nutrition plan a bit more. Right now it's something like fluid every aid station, a gel at mile one. Gel at six and eleven if I can tolerate them, if not, switch to coke. Lap two, coke/broth/water. |
| 2016-08-15 8:31 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 2429 Falls Church, Virginia | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois I just found out that my pool is going to be closed for a month, starting Aug 26th! That means no pool for two weeks before my first Oly. The REC center guy said I should just swim at one of the other centers, but I checked their maintenance schedules, and the other ones closest to me/my office are also going to be closed at that time. Should I just forego swim training the two weeks before the race? Drive to one of the centers further away from me on Sat or Sun and get one swim a week on the weekend? |
| 2016-08-15 8:33 AM in reply to: Atlantia |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by Atlantia I just found out that my pool is going to be closed for a month, starting Aug 26th! That means no pool for two weeks before my first Oly. The REC center guy said I should just swim at one of the other centers, but I checked their maintenance schedules, and the other ones closest to me/my office are also going to be closed at that time. Should I just forego swim training the two weeks before the race? Drive to one of the centers further away from me on Sat or Sun and get one swim a week on the weekend? How much of a PitA is it for you to OWS? |
| 2016-08-15 9:09 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois For all of the Bachelorette fans among us (you know who you are!) |
| 2016-08-15 9:13 AM in reply to: Atlantia |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by Atlantia I just found out that my pool is going to be closed for a month, starting Aug 26th! That means no pool for two weeks before my first Oly. The REC center guy said I should just swim at one of the other centers, but I checked their maintenance schedules, and the other ones closest to me/my office are also going to be closed at that time. Should I just forego swim training the two weeks before the race? Drive to one of the centers further away from me on Sat or Sun and get one swim a week on the weekend? You really won't lose your swim fitness in that time, but if I were you I would try to get to the pool saturday or sunday (or both). At the very least it would take away the stress thinking that I was losing fitness! |
| 2016-08-15 9:13 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 2429 Falls Church, Virginia | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by Atlantia I just found out that my pool is going to be closed for a month, starting Aug 26th! That means no pool for two weeks before my first Oly. The REC center guy said I should just swim at one of the other centers, but I checked their maintenance schedules, and the other ones closest to me/my office are also going to be closed at that time. Should I just forego swim training the two weeks before the race? Drive to one of the centers further away from me on Sat or Sun and get one swim a week on the weekend? How much of a PitA is it for you to OWS? $30 a pop for the swims at National Harbor (30 minute drive). $10 a pop to swim in Lake Anna (90 minute drive) Soooo, big PITA.  No swimming in any of the local lakes allowed. |
| 2016-08-15 9:16 AM in reply to: Atlantia |
| 1731 Denver, Colorado | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by Atlantia I just found out that my pool is going to be closed for a month, starting Aug 26th! That means no pool for two weeks before my first Oly. The REC center guy said I should just swim at one of the other centers, but I checked their maintenance schedules, and the other ones closest to me/my office are also going to be closed at that time. Should I just forego swim training the two weeks before the race? Drive to one of the centers further away from me on Sat or Sun and get one swim a week on the weekend? This is a serious deal going on with all those swimming places having maintenance in August, when people are racing! The pool of my university has one scheduled Aug 1-21 (the race is on the 28) and they offered YMCA access for our members. Although, we have 20 or something lanes, at YMCA they have ...6...? They also do some sort of major renovation of our recreation center, so the beach is closed as well. I had an option to go to my kids' YMCA (where they go for summer camp) and just got a notice they are doing renovation for the last two weeks of August as well. Seriously, can't they have it done in December??? My best friend and her partner canceled their August race because of no spot to train for swimming, that sucks :/ I think if you can, do as much swim as you can... At least for me, if I don't swim for a week, I am starting from pre-k beginner level :/ |
| 2016-08-15 9:17 AM in reply to: Atlantia |
Master 4119 Toronto Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by Atlantia I just found out that my pool is going to be closed for a month, starting Aug 26th! That means no pool for two weeks before my first Oly. The REC center guy said I should just swim at one of the other centers, but I checked their maintenance schedules, and the other ones closest to me/my office are also going to be closed at that time. Should I just forego swim training the two weeks before the race? Drive to one of the centers further away from me on Sat or Sun and get one swim a week on the weekend? I would do the weekend swim just for your own sanity. I know it's just a confidence boost to check in with your swim. You've been doing so great with your swim so you'll be fine no matter what but i would make plans to get at least a weekend swim in. |
| 2016-08-15 9:19 AM in reply to: Atlantia |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by Atlantia Originally posted by jmkizer $30 a pop for the swims at National Harbor (30 minute drive). $10 a pop to swim in Lake Anna (90 minute drive) Soooo, big PITA. Originally posted by Atlantia I just found out that my pool is going to be closed for a month, starting Aug 26th! That means no pool for two weeks before my first Oly. The REC center guy said I should just swim at one of the other centers, but I checked their maintenance schedules, and the other ones closest to me/my office are also going to be closed at that time. Should I just forego swim training the two weeks before the race? Drive to one of the centers further away from me on Sat or Sun and get one swim a week on the weekend? How much of a PitA is it for you to OWS? No swimming in any of the local lakes allowed. In that case, I'd haul myself to the nearest pool and get wet there. Would it be possible for you do swim after work one day instead if that would help your schedule out? |
| 2016-08-15 9:21 AM in reply to: juniperjen |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by juniperjen Originally posted by Atlantia I just found out that my pool is going to be closed for a month, starting Aug 26th! That means no pool for two weeks before my first Oly. The REC center guy said I should just swim at one of the other centers, but I checked their maintenance schedules, and the other ones closest to me/my office are also going to be closed at that time. Should I just forego swim training the two weeks before the race? Drive to one of the centers further away from me on Sat or Sun and get one swim a week on the weekend? I would do the weekend swim just for your own sanity. I know it's just a confidence boost to check in with your swim. You've been doing so great with your swim so you'll be fine no matter what but i would make plans to get at least a weekend swim in. +1 It's definitely for the confidence more than anything else. Your swim is great! :-D |
| 2016-08-15 9:48 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Happy birthday, Mary G! |
| 2016-08-15 10:24 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 2429 Falls Church, Virginia | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by juniperjen Originally posted by Atlantia I just found out that my pool is going to be closed for a month, starting Aug 26th! That means no pool for two weeks before my first Oly. The REC center guy said I should just swim at one of the other centers, but I checked their maintenance schedules, and the other ones closest to me/my office are also going to be closed at that time. Should I just forego swim training the two weeks before the race? Drive to one of the centers further away from me on Sat or Sun and get one swim a week on the weekend? I would do the weekend swim just for your own sanity. I know it's just a confidence boost to check in with your swim. You've been doing so great with your swim so you'll be fine no matter what but i would make plans to get at least a weekend swim in. +1 It's definitely for the confidence more than anything else. Your swim is great! :-D That's kind of what I was hoping to hear. I may spring for one of the open water swims near me, but mostly just swim on the weekend to keep my usual pre-race anxiety at bay. Two weeks is going to fee like an eternity! Thanks for the vote of confidence in my swim!  |
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