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 2016-01-07 9:06 AM in reply to: IndoIronYanti |
Champion  10550    Austin, Texas |  Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016Originally posted by IndoIronYanti Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by StaceyK Originally posted by Lighttower Originally posted by StaceyK About 10 years ago was standing on a chair and I fell off and landed on my back on the edge of a concrete step. In the last 2 years I have aggravated this injured area a number of times, mainly when lifting my 80+kg (180lb) dogs. The latest aggravation happen just after Christmas when I was out walking a couple of my dogs and fell and landed face first on the road. I ended up landing predominately on my left had side and I am still sporting some of the bruises. I'm sure it looked pretty impressive as i did a delightful 180 spin as I fell. I see a Bowen therapist and she does a great job, I can now stand up straight, she fixed my shoulder that took a fair bit of the fall and I am relatively pain free, just very stiff. I don't drink coffee (I know but they still let me be a Manatee), but I do drink a bit of English Breakfast tea and partake of a fair bit of chocolate. ... May I ask why you don't drink coffee anymore? Is it related to your recovery, or you just don't like it as much as you used to? o.O I personally prefer green tea (some kind of Oolong), but I drink a cup of Latte now and then.  I have never drunk coffee I don't like it. I don't even really care for the smell of it. And, we still let you in the pod Somebody still fached the quoting up but I'm still grieving your distaste of Pop Tarts and Nutella ... YAAAAAAAAY MOOOOOORE FOR MEEEEE I realize more and more the great sacrifices Stace Face makes for me. Crap, she gave me a BIKE. She runs around after me and my idiot husband. OK, I'm the idiot, but he's ... well ... he's a special kind of ... special. *cautiously raises hand* I don't like Nutella either! Actually, I don't like anything chocolate - I know, I know, I should hang my head in shame or something, but I love just about everything else that's bad for me, caramel, ice cream, candies, cookies (ZOMG - Tony made ah-MAY-zing oatmeal cookies last night & whoever comes up with these "makes 36" weird numbers clearly never took into consideration the amount of cookie dough batter that is consumed before baking said cookies), pie, etc... And I have pets (some days this includes Tony), so... basically I have no business being a Manatee, but you people kept me anyway. Yay! |
Of course, I don't like pop tarts or nutella and I'm allowed in, so i guess I can't be too tough on you!| 2016-01-07 9:09 AM in reply to: Richardsdrr |
Champion 10550 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 Originally posted by Richardsdrr Originally posted by IronOx Yes, you can just use the TR app. Couple of points to note this year though: trainer road is not partnering with sufferfest this time because sufferfest have released their own app and are now their competition. Also, there's a new video in this year's tour that hasn't been released yet. Whether the guys at TR towers will get a workout to match it out in time will remain to be seen. Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by popsracer Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by juniperjen So, my long time running buddy is moving away! Well, she's still going to be in the city but it won't be so convenient to run together very often. do you have training friends? Have you had to deal when the moved/left/stopped training with you? I'm a lonely trainer, so I really can't help, sorry. Yeah, me too. Pretty much a lone wolf. I've done some trail running and mountain biking with some friends but always ended up being some kind of race and with these guys being 20 years younger than me usually left me a little deflated. My wife on the other hand who does about three HM's a year always recruits and runs with a friend for her week or two of training leading up to the event. It is very difficult to get on the same page as someone else though and each training block seems to involve a new partner. I think that groups tend to find equilibrium better than random individuals though. Around here there are several running clubs and LRS sponsored weekly runs that seem to be more consistent and predictable. I'm solo for the vast majority of my training as well. I might see people at the gym when I go, but not really doing anything in groups. Do try to get up and ride with my brother now and then. He lives a couple hours away, so can't do it that often. I did much of my training solo until I met my training partner. I'm still okay to train alone; I like the time to myself. I have a question for Tour of Sufferlandia experts. Most of the rides are on Trainerroad; I realize the videos 'make the ride' but it is possible to do them without the visual? Can't see shelling out a bunch more cash right now... Thanks for the info Darren - going to check out the TR & SF apps now, any thoughts on when/if the guys at TR will have the missing workout from SF? |
I've been a bad running buddy for the last few years, what with going into tri and then having a baby ... but i will genuinely miss her and feel the loss. We've been running together since 2007 and trained with her for 4 of my 5 marathons (and same for her) | 2016-01-07 9:11 AM in reply to: DaveL |
Champion 10550 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 Originally posted by DaveL 99% of the time I am solo in my basement. I do have a friend who I got into triathlons last year and we would do the odd run, mountain bike and swim once per week which was good but he is injured now and this year might be out for him. I also ran with his wife a number of years ago which really helped on those long wintery long runs but ya, 99% after 8pm on the treadmill or trainer in the basement. I am an introvert with a capital "I" so that works just fine for me. (not sure what happened with the quote thing there) Originally posted by brigby1 I'm solo for the vast majority of my training as well. I might see people at the gym when I go, but not really doing anything in groups. Do try to get up and ride with my brother now and then. He lives a couple hours away, so can't do it that often. Same here - 99% of my training is solo. When we lived in Chicago, I could convince my hubby to go on early morning & weekend runs & rides with me, but he now starts work at 5:30am and has decided that he's not doing triathlons any more, just run races so he's not really doing any training. I do still meet up on Saturdays for a group ride during warmer weather, but otherwise it's all me. |
| 2016-01-07 9:16 AM in reply to: 0 |
Alpharetta, Georgia Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 Originally posted by juniperjen So, my long time running buddy is moving away! Well, she's still going to be in the city but it won't be so convenient to run together very often. do you have training friends? Have you had to deal when the moved/left/stopped training with you? I went through this twice with good training buddies moving across the country. I won't lie, it really sucked and I really miss them! I am very much introverted, in both life and in training - so when I found other gals who would train with me, at my speeds, and be consistent - it was something I worked at to keep. I still do races with one of them (she's on BT so I get to keep up with her training) but I really miss our runs together. A few years ago, on the spur of the moment I joined a local marathon training group. I met a few gals who I really clicked with and we ran probably 10-12 weeks worth of long runs together. But at some point, they decided they wanted to run at a faster pace and I got frustrated with all the effort I was putting in to join the group --- only to be running alone again. I still sort of keep in touch with them, but it really rubbed the the wrong way - not that they wanted to run faster, but the way it happened. Anyway, my point was that local training groups might be a good source for new training buddies, but it's hit and miss just like everything else. Edited by lisac957 2016-01-07 9:17 AM |
| 2016-01-07 9:25 AM in reply to: blueyedbikergirl |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl Think they used to have them out about the same day as the video release as SF would give them the vid ahead of time. I don't know if that will still happen now, but don't think it would take them too long even if it isn't.Originally posted by Richardsdrr Originally posted by IronOx Yes, you can just use the TR app. Couple of points to note this year though: trainer road is not partnering with sufferfest this time because sufferfest have released their own app and are now their competition. Also, there's a new video in this year's tour that hasn't been released yet. Whether the guys at TR towers will get a workout to match it out in time will remain to be seen. Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by popsracer Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by juniperjen So, my long time running buddy is moving away! Well, she's still going to be in the city but it won't be so convenient to run together very often. do you have training friends? Have you had to deal when the moved/left/stopped training with you? I'm a lonely trainer, so I really can't help, sorry. Yeah, me too. Pretty much a lone wolf. I've done some trail running and mountain biking with some friends but always ended up being some kind of race and with these guys being 20 years younger than me usually left me a little deflated. My wife on the other hand who does about three HM's a year always recruits and runs with a friend for her week or two of training leading up to the event. It is very difficult to get on the same page as someone else though and each training block seems to involve a new partner. I think that groups tend to find equilibrium better than random individuals though. Around here there are several running clubs and LRS sponsored weekly runs that seem to be more consistent and predictable. I'm solo for the vast majority of my training as well. I might see people at the gym when I go, but not really doing anything in groups. Do try to get up and ride with my brother now and then. He lives a couple hours away, so can't do it that often. I did much of my training solo until I met my training partner. I'm still okay to train alone; I like the time to myself. I have a question for Tour of Sufferlandia experts. Most of the rides are on Trainerroad; I realize the videos 'make the ride' but it is possible to do them without the visual? Can't see shelling out a bunch more cash right now... Thanks for the info Darren - going to check out the TR & SF apps now, any thoughts on when/if the guys at TR will have the missing workout from SF? If there is a new vid, hoping it's better than the last bunch were. Kind of disappointed with them. |
| 2016-01-07 9:28 AM in reply to: marysia83 |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 Originally posted by marysia83 Originally posted by Lighttower hahaha so cool Originally posted by marysia83 The only Polish sentence I know is: Polak, Wegier, dwa bratanki I do szabli, i do szklanki Oba zuchy, oba zwawi Niech im Pan Bóg blogoslawi. I really like Pierogi! Originally posted by IndoIronYanti Yup Originally posted by marysia83 Yes. Yes it is.Hey, Eastern Europe is in the house! A Magyar and a Pole. Very good! Originally posted by Lighttower NUTELLA is the answer and the cure for everything!!!Originally posted by IndoIronYanti Jó napot nektek is! Originally posted by Lighttower And I need to get my hands on some poptards someday, they look really unhealthy. I apologies for my grammar mistakes, but it is midnight here and I've just finished my run for today. Jó napot Magyar Köztársaság!  Originally posted by IndoIronYanti I only speak 3 (English, German and Hungarian, and a little bit of Latin and French)I used to be a vegetarian for several years, and I was a piscetarian (a vegetarian who eats fish) for two years, I am a meat eater now, but I still experiment a lot with food (I've gained 10 kg last year when I started my Half-Marathons, which is awesome for me, because I usually loose weight and can't really increase my fat reserves for to long I've already lost 2 of those 10 kilos, I try to keep the rest).Last month (end of November - start of December) I tried out a diet with no added sugars in it (sucrose, dextrose, maltose, etc.) only natural fructose and natural lactose was allowed (i.e. Fruits and Milk) and boy I've felt bad, I quickly returned to my normal sugar intake (around 2-4 teaspoons a day) and I feel much better now. I think I might hunt down these pop-tarts and give them a try. OK, that's all the Hungarian I know. But I've known it and can remember it for 23 years Pop Tarts are FRUIT. They have REAL FRUIT in them. It says so on the box! They are actually quite popular with some pro tri champs as pre-race breakfast. And me P.S. A guy who speaks (at least) four languages never needs to apologize for grammar. Especially at midnight! Or I buy a couple of jars of Nutella, for emergency purposes. I've always wondered how Hungarian stew made it to be one of traditional Polish dishes Unfortunately, I do not know any sentences in Hungarian. But some of Polish words have roots in Hungarian, they came in around XV century. My husbands family is from Poland, my step-brother grew up (and currently lives) in Germany, and my work partner is from Hungary so I feel kindred with you both |
| 2016-01-07 9:37 AM in reply to: DaveL |
| 436 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 Originally posted by DaveL Originally posted by JBacarella Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by JBacarella I have a dumb trainer, but use it in conjunction with Trainer Road, a Wahoo sensor on my bike and iphone app for virtual wattage. I cannot guess how accurate it is, but I can tell you it consistent than just going by feel and cadence. Plus it cost a lot less than a real watt meter on your bike. I am amazed at the variety of trainer/app options. I know, its crazy when you start looking at what is available and what others do, how many options there are to choose from. I can see where it can become overwhelming. I think for most people it comes down to going to the level of technology you are comfortable with coupled with price. Lots available for the bike but seemingly nothing for a treadmill. I am still looking for a ANT+ app that will work with my foot cadence sensor and HR strap that will display on my PC similar to what is on trainer road. Are you happy with your foot cadence sensor? I have a Garmin 920xt which seems to track my cadence but sometimes I wonder how accurate it is. |
| 2016-01-07 9:38 AM in reply to: DaveL |
Champion 14677 Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 Hey Manatees I spent an hour catching up. Whew! I am amazed. I spent the day yesterday volunteering at the Cyclocross Nationals. I was pouring beer that benefited one of my favorite charities. It was a good day. FWIW: I train alone as well. There are tons of folks in Asheville area but I just won't drive to do what I can do here. I am in luck (sorta), I will be on vacation the week of the Tour of Sufferlandia so .. well.. maybe next year. Have great days. |
| 2016-01-07 9:42 AM in reply to: TXTriRook |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 Originally posted by TXTriRook Originally posted by DaveL Are you happy with your foot cadence sensor? I have a Garmin 920xt which seems to track my cadence but sometimes I wonder how accurate it is. Originally posted by JBacarella Lots available for the bike but seemingly nothing for a treadmill. I am still looking for a ANT+ app that will work with my foot cadence sensor and HR strap that will display on my PC similar to what is on trainer road. Originally posted by cdban66 I know, its crazy when you start looking at what is available and what others do, how many options there are to choose from. I can see where it can become overwhelming. I think for most people it comes down to going to the level of technology you are comfortable with coupled with price. Originally posted by JBacarella I have a dumb trainer, but use it in conjunction with Trainer Road, a Wahoo sensor on my bike and iphone app for virtual wattage. I cannot guess how accurate it is, but I can tell you it consistent than just going by feel and cadence. Plus it cost a lot less than a real watt meter on your bike. I am amazed at the variety of trainer/app options. I actually think that the 920XT is *more* accurate than the foot sensor. YMMV! |
| 2016-01-07 9:45 AM in reply to: Richardsdrr |
Extreme Veteran 2263 Ridgeland, Mississippi | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 Originally posted by Richardsdrr Originally posted by IronOx Yes, you can just use the TR app. Couple of points to note this year though: trainer road is not partnering with sufferfest this time because sufferfest have released their own app and are now their competition. Also, there's a new video in this year's tour that hasn't been released yet. Whether the guys at TR towers will get a workout to match it out in time will remain to be seen.
I did much of my training solo until I met my training partner. I'm still okay to train alone; I like the time to myself. I have a question for Tour of Sufferlandia experts. Most of the rides are on Trainerroad; I realize the videos 'make the ride' but it is possible to do them without the visual? Can't see shelling out a bunch more cash right now... I'd actually be ok with this. Some of the targets on TR are borderline insane. Anyone who does Revolver X 2 at 100% of TR's targets needs to retest their FTP. |
| 2016-01-07 9:49 AM in reply to: ceilidh |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 Originally posted by ceilidh Hey Manatees I spent an hour catching up. Whew! I am amazed. I spent the day yesterday volunteering at the Cyclocross Nationals. I was pouring beer that benefited one of my favorite charities. It was a good day. FWIW: I train alone as well. There are tons of folks in Asheville area but I just won't drive to do what I can do here. I am in luck (sorta), I will be on vacation the week of the Tour of Sufferlandia so .. well.. maybe next year. Have great days. Robin, I knew you were in WNC, but I didn't know the Asheville area. That is on the short list of retirement towns for me, along with Greenville SC and a couple of others around there. |
| 2016-01-07 9:51 AM in reply to: 0 |
Master 8249 Eugene, Oregon Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 I can't keep up! Had a busy two days and amazed that there are about 19 pages of stuff I haven't read! Will try to contribute something productive in the next few days......Know I have a good source for core exercises for triathletes somewhere and someone asked about it. Sitting in the airport about to commence "World's Longest Commute" back to Saigon. Another solo trainer here. Last year and for part of the year before that I had two running buddies a few days a week, but they were not very consistent, due to illness, injury, motivation, or some combo thereof. One hasn't been doing much running at all this year, and the other moved back home (to South Africa) last spring. So back to running solo. To be honest, it's what I prefer. When I run with others, I always feel like they start too fast, then slow down. I tend to start REALLY slowly, especially early AM, and start feeling good only 30-40 minutes into the run! I like biking with others but have no one to bike with in Saigon since my bike buddy moved to Saudi Arabia a few years ago due to her husband's job. And swimming...the only master's group in Saigon moved across town about five years ago. So it's all solo, all the time, pretty much. I guess I deal with it with a combination of structured workouts (one reason I got a coach) and imaginary training buddies. Hard to explain that one--I imagine the woman running ahead of me down the street is (insert world-class triathlete) and I'm going after her at Kona; my old HS buddies are swimming in the next lane; I'm talking with my old bike buddy on a ride or imagine I'm on a favorite loop in Oregon. (I have a good imagination.) Videos are great for the trainer. Just got a power meter so I can look at that, too. I do train with a master's swim group and bike with a local club sometimes when in Oregon, but I think my solo training is often higher-quality, and more relaxing, as I can just completely focus on my workout and not socializing with someone else or having to adjust what I'm doing to meet their needs. As for vices: Coffee, yes. Nutella, yes, occasionally. Poptarts--sorry, Yanti. Nope. My substitute vice is "Cinnamon Chip Bread" from a local bakery in Oregon. ETA: Here's the core stuff--easy to use. Just follow the video and try to ignore the fact that the lady's all chipper and smiling while you writhe in agony on the floor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wGgCiX6mPI I also made my logs public again (to logged-in members only) but it will just have total time/distance, not workout specifics as per agreement with my coach. Edited by Hot Runner 2016-01-07 9:59 AM |
| 2016-01-07 9:51 AM in reply to: blueyedbikergirl |
| 93 Chicago, Illinois | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl Originally posted by IndoIronYanti Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by StaceyK Originally posted by Lighttower Originally posted by StaceyK About 10 years ago was standing on a chair and I fell off and landed on my back on the edge of a concrete step. In the last 2 years I have aggravated this injured area a number of times, mainly when lifting my 80+kg (180lb) dogs. The latest aggravation happen just after Christmas when I was out walking a couple of my dogs and fell and landed face first on the road. I ended up landing predominately on my left had side and I am still sporting some of the bruises. I'm sure it looked pretty impressive as i did a delightful 180 spin as I fell. I see a Bowen therapist and she does a great job, I can now stand up straight, she fixed my shoulder that took a fair bit of the fall and I am relatively pain free, just very stiff. I don't drink coffee (I know but they still let me be a Manatee), but I do drink a bit of English Breakfast tea and partake of a fair bit of chocolate. ... May I ask why you don't drink coffee anymore? Is it related to your recovery, or you just don't like it as much as you used to? o.O I personally prefer green tea (some kind of Oolong), but I drink a cup of Latte now and then. I have never drunk coffee I don't like it. I don't even really care for the smell of it. And, we still let you in the pod Somebody still fached the quoting up but I'm still grieving your distaste of Pop Tarts and Nutella ... YAAAAAAAAY MOOOOOORE FOR MEEEEE I realize more and more the great sacrifices Stace Face makes for me. Crap, she gave me a BIKE. She runs around after me and my idiot husband. OK, I'm the idiot, but he's ... well ... he's a special kind of ... special. *cautiously raises hand* I don't like Nutella either! Actually, I don't like anything chocolate - I know, I know, I should hang my head in shame or something, but I love just about everything else that's bad for me, caramel, ice cream, candies, cookies (ZOMG - Tony made ah-MAY-zing oatmeal cookies last night & whoever comes up with these "makes 36" weird numbers clearly never took into consideration the amount of cookie dough batter that is consumed before baking said cookies), pie, etc... And I have pets (some days this includes Tony), so... basically I have no business being a Manatee, but you people kept me anyway. Yay! I stopped reading at the part where you said you don't like chocolate. I would probably be 40 pounds lighter if that were true for me. I have never tried Nutella, so I can't comment on that part. We were making chocolate chip cookies and buckeyes for Christmas and I couldn't stop eating the chocolate chips. |
| 2016-01-07 9:56 AM in reply to: 0 |
| 93 Chicago, Illinois | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by TXTriRook Originally posted by DaveL Are you happy with your foot cadence sensor? I have a Garmin 920xt which seems to track my cadence but sometimes I wonder how accurate it is. Originally posted by JBacarella Lots available for the bike but seemingly nothing for a treadmill. I am still looking for a ANT+ app that will work with my foot cadence sensor and HR strap that will display on my PC similar to what is on trainer road. Originally posted by cdban66 I know, its crazy when you start looking at what is available and what others do, how many options there are to choose from. I can see where it can become overwhelming. I think for most people it comes down to going to the level of technology you are comfortable with coupled with price. Originally posted by JBacarella I have a dumb trainer, but use it in conjunction with Trainer Road, a Wahoo sensor on my bike and iphone app for virtual wattage. I cannot guess how accurate it is, but I can tell you it consistent than just going by feel and cadence. Plus it cost a lot less than a real watt meter on your bike. I am amazed at the variety of trainer/app options. I actually think that the 920XT is *more* accurate than the foot sensor. YMMV! I had a 920 with the heart rate run monitor and did not think it was accurate at all indoors or for cadence or distance without a foot pod. The first time I rant with it indoors on a track it said I was running a 6:40 mile which would not even be close. I don't think I could run a 6:40 mile pace for 100 meters. I am back using my 910 with footpod and I think it does a great job. I can't remember if the cadence was too high or too low though. Edited by emcmino 2016-01-07 10:12 AM |
| 2016-01-07 10:12 AM in reply to: lisac957 |
| 310 Raleigh, North Carolina | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 Originally posted by lisac957 Originally posted by juniperjen So, my long time running buddy is moving away! Well, she's still going to be in the city but it won't be so convenient to run together very often. do you have training friends? Have you had to deal when the moved/left/stopped training with you? I went through this twice with good training buddies moving across the country. I won't lie, it really sucked and I really miss them! I am very much introverted, in both life and in training - so when I found other gals who would train with me, at my speeds, and be consistent - it was something I worked at to keep. I still do races with one of them (she's on BT so I get to keep up with her training) but I really miss our runs together. A few years ago, on the spur of the moment I joined a local marathon training group. I met a few gals who I really clicked with and we ran probably 10-12 weeks worth of long runs together. But at some point, they decided they wanted to run at a faster pace and I got frustrated with all the effort I was putting in to join the group --- only to be running alone again. I still sort of keep in touch with them, but it really rubbed the the wrong way - not that they wanted to run faster, but the way it happened. Anyway, my point was that local training groups might be a good source for new training buddies, but it's hit and miss just like everything else. Lots of introverts on here! (INTROVERTS-UNITE.jpg) Attachments ---------------- INTROVERTS-UNITE.jpg (125KB - 4 downloads) |
| 2016-01-07 10:18 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
Regular 980 Caerphilly, Wales, uk. | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl Think they used to have them out about the same day as the video release as SF would give them the vid ahead of time. I don't know if that will still happen now, but don't think it would take them too long even if it isn't.Originally posted by Richardsdrr Originally posted by IronOx Yes, you can just use the TR app. Couple of points to note this year though: trainer road is not partnering with sufferfest this time because sufferfest have released their own app and are now their competition. Also, there's a new video in this year's tour that hasn't been released yet. Whether the guys at TR towers will get a workout to match it out in time will remain to be seen. Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by popsracer Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by juniperjen So, my long time running buddy is moving away! Well, she's still going to be in the city but it won't be so convenient to run together very often. do you have training friends? Have you had to deal when the moved/left/stopped training with you? I'm a lonely trainer, so I really can't help, sorry. Yeah, me too. Pretty much a lone wolf. I've done some trail running and mountain biking with some friends but always ended up being some kind of race and with these guys being 20 years younger than me usually left me a little deflated. My wife on the other hand who does about three HM's a year always recruits and runs with a friend for her week or two of training leading up to the event. It is very difficult to get on the same page as someone else though and each training block seems to involve a new partner. I think that groups tend to find equilibrium better than random individuals though. Around here there are several running clubs and LRS sponsored weekly runs that seem to be more consistent and predictable. I'm solo for the vast majority of my training as well. I might see people at the gym when I go, but not really doing anything in groups. Do try to get up and ride with my brother now and then. He lives a couple hours away, so can't do it that often. I did much of my training solo until I met my training partner. I'm still okay to train alone; I like the time to myself. I have a question for Tour of Sufferlandia experts. Most of the rides are on Trainerroad; I realize the videos 'make the ride' but it is possible to do them without the visual? Can't see shelling out a bunch more cash right now... Thanks for the info Darren - going to check out the TR & SF apps now, any thoughts on when/if the guys at TR will have the missing workout from SF? If there is a new vid, hoping it's better than the last bunch were. Kind of disappointed with them. Why didn't you like the videos? I was looking at getting the pack because I've got a 10% discount after buying elements of style video, of which I haven't used yet :/ |
| 2016-01-07 10:22 AM in reply to: emcmino |
| 1731 Denver, Colorado | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 Originally posted by emcmino Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl Originally posted by IndoIronYanti Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by StaceyK Originally posted by Lighttower Originally posted by StaceyK About 10 years ago was standing on a chair and I fell off and landed on my back on the edge of a concrete step. In the last 2 years I have aggravated this injured area a number of times, mainly when lifting my 80+kg (180lb) dogs. The latest aggravation happen just after Christmas when I was out walking a couple of my dogs and fell and landed face first on the road. I ended up landing predominately on my left had side and I am still sporting some of the bruises. I'm sure it looked pretty impressive as i did a delightful 180 spin as I fell. I see a Bowen therapist and she does a great job, I can now stand up straight, she fixed my shoulder that took a fair bit of the fall and I am relatively pain free, just very stiff. I don't drink coffee (I know but they still let me be a Manatee), but I do drink a bit of English Breakfast tea and partake of a fair bit of chocolate. ... May I ask why you don't drink coffee anymore? Is it related to your recovery, or you just don't like it as much as you used to? o.O I personally prefer green tea (some kind of Oolong), but I drink a cup of Latte now and then. I have never drunk coffee I don't like it. I don't even really care for the smell of it. And, we still let you in the pod Somebody still fached the quoting up but I'm still grieving your distaste of Pop Tarts and Nutella ... YAAAAAAAAY MOOOOOORE FOR MEEEEE I realize more and more the great sacrifices Stace Face makes for me. Crap, she gave me a BIKE. She runs around after me and my idiot husband. OK, I'm the idiot, but he's ... well ... he's a special kind of ... special. *cautiously raises hand* I don't like Nutella either! Actually, I don't like anything chocolate - I know, I know, I should hang my head in shame or something, but I love just about everything else that's bad for me, caramel, ice cream, candies, cookies (ZOMG - Tony made ah-MAY-zing oatmeal cookies last night & whoever comes up with these "makes 36" weird numbers clearly never took into consideration the amount of cookie dough batter that is consumed before baking said cookies), pie, etc... And I have pets (some days this includes Tony), so... basically I have no business being a Manatee, but you people kept me anyway. Yay! I stopped reading at the part where you said you don't like chocolate. I would probably be 40 pounds lighter if that were true for me. I have never tried Nutella, so I can't comment on that part. We were making chocolate chip cookies and buckeyes for Christmas and I couldn't stop eating the chocolate chips. I stopped reading at the part when you said you've never had Nutella.... |
| 2016-01-07 10:39 AM in reply to: awm007 |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 Originally posted by awm007 Originally posted by lisac957 Lots of introverts on here! Originally posted by juniperjen So, my long time running buddy is moving away! Well, she's still going to be in the city but it won't be so convenient to run together very often. do you have training friends? Have you had to deal when the moved/left/stopped training with you? I went through this twice with good training buddies moving across the country. I won't lie, it really sucked and I really miss them! I am very much introverted, in both life and in training - so when I found other gals who would train with me, at my speeds, and be consistent - it was something I worked at to keep. I still do races with one of them (she's on BT so I get to keep up with her training) but I really miss our runs together. A few years ago, on the spur of the moment I joined a local marathon training group. I met a few gals who I really clicked with and we ran probably 10-12 weeks worth of long runs together. But at some point, they decided they wanted to run at a faster pace and I got frustrated with all the effort I was putting in to join the group --- only to be running alone again. I still sort of keep in touch with them, but it really rubbed the the wrong way - not that they wanted to run faster, but the way it happened. Anyway, my point was that local training groups might be a good source for new training buddies, but it's hit and miss just like everything else. haha! |
| 2016-01-07 10:40 AM in reply to: msteiner |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 Originally posted by msteiner Originally posted by Richardsdrr Originally posted by IronOx Yes, you can just use the TR app. Couple of points to note this year though: trainer road is not partnering with sufferfest this time because sufferfest have released their own app and are now their competition. Also, there's a new video in this year's tour that hasn't been released yet. Whether the guys at TR towers will get a workout to match it out in time will remain to be seen.
I did much of my training solo until I met my training partner. I'm still okay to train alone; I like the time to myself. I have a question for Tour of Sufferlandia experts. Most of the rides are on Trainerroad; I realize the videos 'make the ride' but it is possible to do them without the visual? Can't see shelling out a bunch more cash right now... I'd actually be ok with this. Some of the targets on TR are borderline insane. Anyone who does Revolver X 2 at 100% of TR's targets needs to retest their FTP. I was only on TR for a couple weeks awhile back. Did they change HHNF? When I did it, they hardly matched up the changes in effort. Particularly in the early goings of both intervals, where there were surges. They also had a significant mismatch from interval 1 to 2 in that everything for 2 was ramped up harder. Overall I think it was about 5% higher. Too much in my opinion. I think Revolver went at ~135% for the intervals. Actually got close to that once, before TR existed. I almost died on it. Not something I'd want to repeat. Hitting or just breaking 120% is fine for triathletes in that workout. |
| 2016-01-07 10:51 AM in reply to: marysia83 |
| 93 Chicago, Illinois | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 Originally posted by marysia83 Originally posted by emcmino Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl Originally posted by IndoIronYanti Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by StaceyK Originally posted by Lighttower Originally posted by StaceyK About 10 years ago was standing on a chair and I fell off and landed on my back on the edge of a concrete step. In the last 2 years I have aggravated this injured area a number of times, mainly when lifting my 80+kg (180lb) dogs. The latest aggravation happen just after Christmas when I was out walking a couple of my dogs and fell and landed face first on the road. I ended up landing predominately on my left had side and I am still sporting some of the bruises. I'm sure it looked pretty impressive as i did a delightful 180 spin as I fell. I see a Bowen therapist and she does a great job, I can now stand up straight, she fixed my shoulder that took a fair bit of the fall and I am relatively pain free, just very stiff. I don't drink coffee (I know but they still let me be a Manatee), but I do drink a bit of English Breakfast tea and partake of a fair bit of chocolate. ... May I ask why you don't drink coffee anymore? Is it related to your recovery, or you just don't like it as much as you used to? o.O I personally prefer green tea (some kind of Oolong), but I drink a cup of Latte now and then. I have never drunk coffee I don't like it. I don't even really care for the smell of it. And, we still let you in the pod Somebody still fached the quoting up but I'm still grieving your distaste of Pop Tarts and Nutella ... YAAAAAAAAY MOOOOOORE FOR MEEEEE I realize more and more the great sacrifices Stace Face makes for me. Crap, she gave me a BIKE. She runs around after me and my idiot husband. OK, I'm the idiot, but he's ... well ... he's a special kind of ... special. *cautiously raises hand* I don't like Nutella either! Actually, I don't like anything chocolate - I know, I know, I should hang my head in shame or something, but I love just about everything else that's bad for me, caramel, ice cream, candies, cookies (ZOMG - Tony made ah-MAY-zing oatmeal cookies last night & whoever comes up with these "makes 36" weird numbers clearly never took into consideration the amount of cookie dough batter that is consumed before baking said cookies), pie, etc... And I have pets (some days this includes Tony), so... basically I have no business being a Manatee, but you people kept me anyway. Yay! I stopped reading at the part where you said you don't like chocolate. I would probably be 40 pounds lighter if that were true for me. I have never tried Nutella, so I can't comment on that part. We were making chocolate chip cookies and buckeyes for Christmas and I couldn't stop eating the chocolate chips. I stopped reading at the part when you said you've never had Nutella.... Ha, Ha, come on us Chicagoan's have to stick together. |
| 2016-01-07 10:52 AM in reply to: 0 |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 Originally posted by Richardsdrr Originally posted by brigby1 Why didn't you like the videos? I was looking at getting the pack because I've got a 10% discount after buying elements of style video, of which I haven't used yet :/ Think they used to have them out about the same day as the video release as SF would give them the vid ahead of time. I don't know if that will still happen now, but don't think it would take them too long even if it isn't. If there is a new vid, hoping it's better than the last bunch were. Kind of disappointed with them. Do As You're Told had the efforts too short and too high up. More of an anaerobic workout. I had to spike well past the top of my Z5 to get anything out of that workout. The profile of The Best Thing In The World looks like it will have the same issues (haven't ridden it yet). There are a couple sections you're holding strong and attacking out of it, but it looks like the emphasis is on sprints/attacking. There isn't enough of the strong holding in this vid. Not like in Nine Hammers or A Very Dark Place. If you really go after it they would be rather hard, but type of development from it as triathletes isn't quite what we're looking for. To Get To The Other Side is only a moderate intensity workout. Not really what we're looking for. I back down on some of the others, but that's my choice. It's still really easy to get amped up and go very hard to them. I don't know if it will be with this. Looks like there is a lot of talking and less on the music with it. Have to try it through some time to be sure. It might end up being ok, but only ok. Edited by brigby1 2016-01-07 10:53 AM |
| 2016-01-07 10:54 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
Regular 980 Caerphilly, Wales, uk. | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 I was only on TR for a couple weeks awhile back. Did they change HHNF? When I did it, they hardly matched up the changes in effort. Particularly in the early goings of both intervals, where there were surges. They also had a significant mismatch from interval 1 to 2 in that everything for 2 was ramped up harder. Overall I think it was about 5% higher. Too much in my opinion. I think Revolver went at ~135% for the intervals. Actually got close to that once, before TR existed. I almost died on it. Not something I'd want to repeat. Hitting or just breaking 120% is fine for triathletes in that workout. I read the same thing as this only this week from someone else. They are hard on TR, especially hhnf. I've read that cycleops is even worse. Can't remember which workout someone was referring to, but it was one of the ones with 20 min intervals. Cycleops had RPE of 7 set at around the 105% mark, and the video asked to do the 20 min intervals at 7.5, which bumped it up to 110%. If you could manage that, then your ftp is wrong. |
| 2016-01-07 10:54 AM in reply to: emcmino |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 Originally posted by emcmino Originally posted by marysia83 Ha, Ha, come on us Chicagoan's have to stick together. Originally posted by emcmino I stopped reading at the part when you said you've never had Nutella.... Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl I stopped reading at the part where you said you don't like chocolate. I would probably be 40 pounds lighter if that were true for me. I have never tried Nutella, so I can't comment on that part. We were making chocolate chip cookies and buckeyes for Christmas and I couldn't stop eating the chocolate chips. Originally posted by IndoIronYanti Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by StaceyK Originally posted by Lighttower Originally posted by StaceyK About 10 years ago was standing on a chair and I fell off and landed on my back on the edge of a concrete step. In the last 2 years I have aggravated this injured area a number of times, mainly when lifting my 80+kg (180lb) dogs. The latest aggravation happen just after Christmas when I was out walking a couple of my dogs and fell and landed face first on the road. I ended up landing predominately on my left had side and I am still sporting some of the bruises. I'm sure it looked pretty impressive as i did a delightful 180 spin as I fell. I see a Bowen therapist and she does a great job, I can now stand up straight, she fixed my shoulder that took a fair bit of the fall and I am relatively pain free, just very stiff. I don't drink coffee (I know but they still let me be a Manatee), but I do drink a bit of English Breakfast tea and partake of a fair bit of chocolate. ... May I ask why you don't drink coffee anymore? Is it related to your recovery, or you just don't like it as much as you used to? o.O I personally prefer green tea (some kind of Oolong), but I drink a cup of Latte now and then. I have never drunk coffee I don't like it. I don't even really care for the smell of it. And, we still let you in the pod Somebody still fached the quoting up but I'm still grieving your distaste of Pop Tarts and Nutella ... YAAAAAAAAY MOOOOOORE FOR MEEEEE I realize more and more the great sacrifices Stace Face makes for me. Crap, she gave me a BIKE. She runs around after me and my idiot husband. OK, I'm the idiot, but he's ... well ... he's a special kind of ... special. *cautiously raises hand* I don't like Nutella either! Actually, I don't like anything chocolate - I know, I know, I should hang my head in shame or something, but I love just about everything else that's bad for me, caramel, ice cream, candies, cookies (ZOMG - Tony made ah-MAY-zing oatmeal cookies last night & whoever comes up with these "makes 36" weird numbers clearly never took into consideration the amount of cookie dough batter that is consumed before baking said cookies), pie, etc... And I have pets (some days this includes Tony), so... basically I have no business being a Manatee, but you people kept me anyway. Yay! Surpisingly enough, I haven't like Nutella, but I don't like hazelnuts either. |
| 2016-01-07 11:00 AM in reply to: 0 |
Extreme Veteran 2263 Ridgeland, Mississippi | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by msteiner Originally posted by Richardsdrr Originally posted by IronOx Yes, you can just use the TR app. Couple of points to note this year though: trainer road is not partnering with sufferfest this time because sufferfest have released their own app and are now their competition. Also, there's a new video in this year's tour that hasn't been released yet. Whether the guys at TR towers will get a workout to match it out in time will remain to be seen.
I did much of my training solo until I met my training partner. I'm still okay to train alone; I like the time to myself. I have a question for Tour of Sufferlandia experts. Most of the rides are on Trainerroad; I realize the videos 'make the ride' but it is possible to do them without the visual? Can't see shelling out a bunch more cash right now... I'd actually be ok with this. Some of the targets on TR are borderline insane. Anyone who does Revolver X 2 at 100% of TR's targets needs to retest their FTP. I was only on TR for a couple weeks awhile back. Did they change HHNF? When I did it, they hardly matched up the changes in effort. Particularly in the early goings of both intervals, where there were surges. They also had a significant mismatch from interval 1 to 2 in that everything for 2 was ramped up harder. Overall I think it was about 5% higher. Too much in my opinion. I think Revolver went at ~135% for the intervals. Actually got close to that once, before TR existed. I almost died on it. Not something I'd want to repeat. Hitting or just breaking 120% is fine for triathletes in that workout. I've completed revolver at 100% of it's targets, and they are insanely high for what would normally be a great VO2 workout. I'd do well to ride an hour of Z2 after that much less the same workout again. It's an anerobic workout on steroids (I'll be doing said workout in about 30 minutes...hooray!). HHNF as TR has the targets listed is impossible if your FTP is accurate. I mean look at the profile on Sufferfest's site: The first 20 minute alone is insane. You'd have to have insane VO2 to threshold curve to be able to spike going into it, hold FTP for ~6 minutes and then do the rest of it well into VO2 range. The second 20 minute enters impossible. Edited by msteiner 2016-01-07 11:02 AM |
| 2016-01-07 11:01 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
| 1731 Denver, Colorado | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by emcmino Originally posted by marysia83 Ha, Ha, come on us Chicagoan's have to stick together. Originally posted by emcmino I stopped reading at the part when you said you've never had Nutella.... Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl I stopped reading at the part where you said you don't like chocolate. I would probably be 40 pounds lighter if that were true for me. I have never tried Nutella, so I can't comment on that part. We were making chocolate chip cookies and buckeyes for Christmas and I couldn't stop eating the chocolate chips. Originally posted by IndoIronYanti Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by StaceyK Originally posted by Lighttower Originally posted by StaceyK About 10 years ago was standing on a chair and I fell off and landed on my back on the edge of a concrete step. In the last 2 years I have aggravated this injured area a number of times, mainly when lifting my 80+kg (180lb) dogs. The latest aggravation happen just after Christmas when I was out walking a couple of my dogs and fell and landed face first on the road. I ended up landing predominately on my left had side and I am still sporting some of the bruises. I'm sure it looked pretty impressive as i did a delightful 180 spin as I fell. I see a Bowen therapist and she does a great job, I can now stand up straight, she fixed my shoulder that took a fair bit of the fall and I am relatively pain free, just very stiff. I don't drink coffee (I know but they still let me be a Manatee), but I do drink a bit of English Breakfast tea and partake of a fair bit of chocolate. ... May I ask why you don't drink coffee anymore? Is it related to your recovery, or you just don't like it as much as you used to? o.O I personally prefer green tea (some kind of Oolong), but I drink a cup of Latte now and then. I have never drunk coffee I don't like it. I don't even really care for the smell of it. And, we still let you in the pod Somebody still fached the quoting up but I'm still grieving your distaste of Pop Tarts and Nutella ... YAAAAAAAAY MOOOOOORE FOR MEEEEE I realize more and more the great sacrifices Stace Face makes for me. Crap, she gave me a BIKE. She runs around after me and my idiot husband. OK, I'm the idiot, but he's ... well ... he's a special kind of ... special. *cautiously raises hand* I don't like Nutella either! Actually, I don't like anything chocolate - I know, I know, I should hang my head in shame or something, but I love just about everything else that's bad for me, caramel, ice cream, candies, cookies (ZOMG - Tony made ah-MAY-zing oatmeal cookies last night & whoever comes up with these "makes 36" weird numbers clearly never took into consideration the amount of cookie dough batter that is consumed before baking said cookies), pie, etc... And I have pets (some days this includes Tony), so... basically I have no business being a Manatee, but you people kept me anyway. Yay! Surpisingly enough, I haven't like Nutella, but I don't like hazelnuts either. Nutella is nothing comparing to this gem: Milky Way spread (two colored) we have had in Poland (I am surprised I could not find it in US). It's the most addicting thing ever! (nutella not.jpg) Attachments ---------------- nutella not.jpg (27KB - 5 downloads) |
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