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2013-10-02 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by chirunner134 Now you guys are making me second guess mine. When been together for about 2.5 years now. living together for 1. Figures someday when we are old and for legal reason it would make sense but until then there is no point. If we have kids she might change her mind but her turning 40 that might not happen. She talked about changing her last name to mine. Just not having any legal responsibility to me.

What does everyone think about a woman who wants to marry you, but she also wants to keep her last name?  Apparently it's not unheard of (here in the South it's not common at all), but I'm not sure how I feel about it.  

I kept my last name, my husband never had a problem with it.

May I ask what was you're reason for deciding to keep yours?  I'm curious, since I live in a region where girls can't wait to change their last name, status, etc. on facebook when they get married.

I wanted to keep my last name because we had all girls in my family and I was the youngest. I just felt like the name was dying for our family when I got married. I wanted to pass it along but then realized it still wouldn't be passed to anyone so I let it go. That and I was a preschool teacher and it would have been way too much of a mouthful for the kids to keep track of 2 last names.



2013-10-02 11:01 AM
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I see more and more woman keeping their maiden name as a middle name and changing last name.

It would seem natural to me that some women wouldn't want to change their name.  As my wife put it to me, if it's such a big deal why don't you switch to mine.  Full disclosure she did change but it made sense. 

2013-10-02 11:03 AM
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What does everyone think about a woman who wants to marry you, but she also wants to keep her last name?  Apparently it's not unheard of (here in the South it's not common at all), but I'm not sure how I feel about it.  




I have an incredibly unique last name that I love. When I got married the first time I changed my name to his - an incredibly common boring name. I hated it. I cringed every time someone called me Mrs. X. To be honest, I regretted it from the time I signed the paperwork. When I divorced I went back to my maiden name immediately and knew I could never, ever change my name again. I know my current husband isn't happy I won't take his name but it doesn't come up often and he knows it's simply not up for discussion. When he pushes the issue I say if it's that important to him that we have the same last name he can take mine. That usually ends it.

Besides the emotional, it's a serious pain in the butt to change your name. The amount of phone calls, paperwork, etc is just ridiculous! Then add in when you call someone and introduce yourself you have to remember which name they know you by. It gets very confusing!
2013-10-02 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by chirunner134 Now you guys are making me second guess mine. When been together for about 2.5 years now. living together for 1. Figures someday when we are old and for legal reason it would make sense but until then there is no point. If we have kids she might change her mind but her turning 40 that might not happen. She talked about changing her last name to mine. Just not having any legal responsibility to me.

What does everyone think about a woman who wants to marry you, but she also wants to keep her last name?  Apparently it's not unheard of (here in the South it's not common at all), but I'm not sure how I feel about it.  

I kept my last name, my husband never had a problem with it.

May I ask what was you're reason for deciding to keep yours?  I'm curious, since I live in a region where girls can't wait to change their last name, status, etc. on facebook when they get married.




I've been married for almost 10 years. My husband and I have 4 young children. I still haven't changed my last name, and now that it has been a decade, I don't know that I ever will. Never was any reason for not doing it other than laziness (that and we got pregnant the month after we got married and then banged out 4 kids in 5 years). Last thing on the priority list these days.
2013-10-02 11:30 AM
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repeatedly state from onset of dating that she doesn't think marriage is necessary... Now 7 months later she'd had a few drinks and told me that she was giving it 6 months and she was going to change her last name to her Dad's, and if she did that she would never change it again. Then she looked me right in the eyes and said "Just so you know."

I'm not sure if this post was a question about what she wants or a quick rant on chicks not just saying what they want.


When my boyfriend (of 9.5 years) started dating he met me 2 weeks after my ex husband had left me (I was over him and the marriage a good year before that so I was over him). I stated to him from the onset, "I'm not getting married again and I'm not having kids." I wanted to up front with him. So if he wanted to get married and have kids he could go find that girl, because it wasn't (still isn't) me.

Will we ever get married? Probably not. I don't see it happening. Maybe it does? Never say never, right? At this point I don't see it happening, but things could change. ???

I will have to say the most annoying question I get after I say we have been together 9.5 years, "Oh, where's the ring... why hasn't he asked you to marry him?" As if I'm some poor gal sitting around waiting for some guy to buy her a ring and marry her. Marriage isn't the end all - be all for ALL women. We do have other goals, aspirations, and dreams.

Anyways, maybe she's just being really up front and honest with you. ???



2013-10-02 11:38 AM
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I'm still trying to figure out why she's going to change her name to her Dad's.  The whole thing is very weird.


2013-10-02 11:39 AM
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I have a girlfriend who was in a serious relationship with a guy whose last name was Bean. She flat out told him she would never change her last name to Bean and it was a big reason they split up. She used the excuse that she was a Realtor and had an established brand with her name, which was partially true. But fast forward to today and she is married with a new last name - and still a Realtor with a strong brand. She used both last names for about a year then dropped her maiden name. Interesting how her stance changed when she met the right guy.

Personally I would change my last name in a heartbeat. My last name isn't crucial to my personal brand or occupation, and I like the "family" perspective of having the same last names as one unit. To each their own, I have no issues with whatever others do though.

What's her first name?  I could understand if it's Flick or Jelly.



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2013-10-02 11:39 AM
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Dude!!  Yikes!!

So, since I know you AND I know the girl I have a pretty good idea here.

My guess is that you're question stems not from the issue of changing names/not changing names......it's that she's subtly telling you she's giving you six months to take it that next level of commitment or else.  Right??

I can tell you why she seemed to flip-flop.  She's a tough chick, but still a chick.  I get this concept in a big way.  She wants to stay tough, protect herself....but she still has emotions and sometimes it's tough to balance the toughness and the emotions.  

She meets you, is not that invested yet, has her "I don't give a crap about marriage" wall up.  Now months later, she's invested, she loves you and she's letting the wall down, but it's a slow process.  Instead of just coming right out, emoting, saying "look, I really love you and hope this leads to marriage", she's telling you in subtle ways because opening up THAT much is hard for the girl.

But the most important question I have for you is this.......are you thinking marriage with this girl or not?  If not, do you need more time?  Or is this the point at which you face the fact that she's not "the one"?  Or do you want to be with her forever but don't want to do the marriage thing again?

2013-10-02 11:41 AM
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I'm still trying to figure out why she's going to change her name to her Dad's.  The whole thing is very weird.


I was thinking the same thing...
2013-10-02 11:46 AM
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I have a girlfriend who was in a serious relationship with a guy whose last name was Bean. She flat out told him she would never change her last name to Bean and it was a big reason they split up. She used the excuse that she was a Realtor and had an established brand with her name, which was partially true. But fast forward to today and she is married with a new last name - and still a Realtor with a strong brand. She used both last names for about a year then dropped her maiden name. Interesting how her stance changed when she met the right guy.

Personally I would change my last name in a heartbeat. My last name isn't crucial to my personal brand or occupation, and I like the "family" perspective of having the same last names as one unit. To each their own, I have no issues with whatever others do though.

What's her first name?  I could understand if it's Flick or Jelly.

Lisa.

No, it's not me either

2013-10-02 11:47 AM
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Originally posted by erin116  Besides the emotional, it's a serious pain in the butt to change your name. The amount of phone calls, paperwork, etc is just ridiculous! Then add in when you call someone and introduce yourself you have to remember which name they know you by. It gets very confusing!

This!  Changing your last name is a HUGE PITA.  I changed mine because my maiden name is hard to spell and I don't really WANT to be connected to my father anymore, but if my maiden name was Smith I probably wouldn't have bothered to change it.



2013-10-02 11:54 AM
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You know Betonce was right...

 

If ya like it then ya got out a ring on it....

2013-10-02 11:58 AM
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You know Betonce was right...

 

If ya like it then ya got out a ring on it....

but i bet she didn't change her name...

2013-10-02 12:02 PM
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You know Betonce was right...

 

If ya like it then ya got out a ring on it....

but i bet she didn't change her name...

 

I think her legal name is now Beyonce Z

2013-10-02 12:12 PM
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It's seriously a HUGE PITA to change your name!!

Both Tony and I have changed our last names once, and neither one of us is eager to do it again with all the hassle that goes along with it, but if he wants to change his last name so that it's the same as mine - that's fine with me.   

I have a friend that REALLY didn't want to change her last name so she and her fiancé at the time had a bowling match to determine if she would or wouldn't change it.  She went from Darlene Mason to Darlene Humpenfeffer.  Yeah, she lost. 

2013-10-02 12:27 PM
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I switched my thinking on this a while ago.  I felt it was "important" for the first wife to change her name, and realized it was sort of a PITA.  Then she had to change things back after the divorce (more her problem than mine).

With the second wife, I realized, who cares?  Sort of tradition, maybe even antiquated tradition, and really doesn't make a difference.

The wife also kept it because she had a lot of performing/acting credits and lots of information out there with her old name and didn't want people to think it was a "new person".

I have had ZERO issues in the last 10+ years.  The IRS has no issue with different names.  Home ownership, travel, me picking up prescriptions, etc.  When I see that not changing your name has zero negatives, I didn't see the point of wasting a second of energy changing it (which includes credit cards, bank accounts, and all that jazz).  We know we are married to each other.  Everyone we know, knows we are married.  We don't need a last name to indicate that.

The ONLY confusion that may come into play is if/when we have kids and who's name they take.

 

Oh, and maybe someone can explain the OP?  It smells of crazy, but I don't understand what's happening at all.



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2013-10-02 1:10 PM
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I say down with tradition...no name changes, no rings, nothing.  Easy peasy!
2013-10-02 1:12 PM
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Originally posted by thebigb I say down with tradition...no name changes, no rings, nothing.  Easy peasy!

What about an engagement TT bike? No?

2013-10-02 1:14 PM
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Originally posted by thebigb I say down with tradition...no name changes, no rings, nothing.  Easy peasy!

What about an engagement TT bike? No?




I would hope this hypothetical woman I am asking to marry me would love that more than a ring.
2013-10-02 1:19 PM
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Originally posted by Zero2Athlete repeatedly state from onset of dating that she doesn't think marriage is necessary... Now 7 months later she'd had a few drinks and told me that she was giving it 6 months and she was going to change her last name to her Dad's, and if she did that she would never change it again. Then she looked me right in the eyes and said "Just so you know." I'm not sure if this post was a question about what she wants or a quick rant on chicks not just saying what they want.

The whole taking names issue aside, I don't even understand what she's getting at here. So, if it's a healthy relationship, and you ALSO don't understand what the hell she's talking about, this is where you say, "I'm sorry, could you clarify what you mean by that?" and ask some other questions, like, "Why your Dad's name, now?" and maybe, "Remember when we started dating and you said you didn't think marriage was necessary? Do you still feel that way or have you changed your mind?" And if she's drunk, wait until the next day to ask  

Seriously, ASK HER. Not us. Communication makes relationships work (and if she can't discuss this with you without being passive aggressive and weird, then maybe it's a red flag).

2013-10-02 1:20 PM
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I'm still trying to figure out why she's going to change her name to her Dad's.  The whole thing is very weird.


Not so weird... Not to tell her whole story, but her name is neither her mom's nor her dad's.

Obviously she has no problem changing it, so if she would refuse to take mine that would be an issue for me. (Except that she also recently mentioned that if my ex still had my last name, she would never take it. Disappointing but understandable... However, I just learned that my ex got remarried last weekend...so that problem is solved. That's what started the whole name-changing conversation.


2013-10-02 1:21 PM
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Originally posted by thebigb I say down with tradition...no name changes, no rings, nothing.  Easy peasy!

What about an engagement TT bike? No?

Sure if she's getting me one!  I won't date another triathlete

 

The OP's lady is sounding more and more strange every minute.



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2013-10-02 1:56 PM
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Originally posted by Zero2Athlete ... or a quick rant on chicks not just saying what they want.

I think I'll stay WAY clear of this thread knowing THAT word was used.

2013-10-02 2:00 PM
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Dude!!  Yikes!!

So, since I know you AND I know the girl I have a pretty good idea here.

My guess is that you're question stems not from the issue of changing names/not changing names......it's that she's subtly telling you she's giving you six months to take it that next level of commitment or else.  Right??

I can tell you why she seemed to flip-flop.  She's a tough chick, but still a chick.  I get this concept in a big way.  She wants to stay tough, protect herself....but she still has emotions and sometimes it's tough to balance the toughness and the emotions.  

She meets you, is not that invested yet, has her "I don't give a crap about marriage" wall up.  Now months later, she's invested, she loves you and she's letting the wall down, but it's a slow process.  Instead of just coming right out, emoting, saying "look, I really love you and hope this leads to marriage", she's telling you in subtle ways because opening up THAT much is hard for the girl.

But the most important question I have for you is this.......are you thinking marriage with this girl or not?  If not, do you need more time?  Or is this the point at which you face the fact that she's not "the one"?  Or do you want to be with her forever but don't want to do the marriage thing again?




Lol..Good call, A. I'd guess you're right on with the "wants to stay independent and checked out" at first, but subsequently realized that I'm an amazing catch. I'm not certain "Or else" what, though..that she'll move on if I don't commit, Or that seriously, she's changing her name to her dad's and won't change it if we do get married after that. I think she's bluffing either way, though. Maybe even to herself.

As for me..I'm certainly considering. I hadn't really thought of when...just "eventually." She'd be pretty hard to replace, and I'm not afraid of marriage again..I just don't want to do the divorce thing again. I don't think I have to marry her within 6 months, just ask. If I can't find a reason things won't work in that time, that's probably long enough, no? And no worries, I wouldn't be making this kind of decision without your input!
2013-10-02 2:03 PM
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Dude!!  Yikes!!

So, since I know you AND I know the girl I have a pretty good idea here.

My guess is that you're question stems not from the issue of changing names/not changing names......it's that she's subtly telling you she's giving you six months to take it that next level of commitment or else.  Right??

I can tell you why she seemed to flip-flop.  She's a tough chick, but still a chick.  I get this concept in a big way.  She wants to stay tough, protect herself....but she still has emotions and sometimes it's tough to balance the toughness and the emotions.  

She meets you, is not that invested yet, has her "I don't give a crap about marriage" wall up.  Now months later, she's invested, she loves you and she's letting the wall down, but it's a slow process.  Instead of just coming right out, emoting, saying "look, I really love you and hope this leads to marriage", she's telling you in subtle ways because opening up THAT much is hard for the girl.

But the most important question I have for you is this.......are you thinking marriage with this girl or not?  If not, do you need more time?  Or is this the point at which you face the fact that she's not "the one"?  Or do you want to be with her forever but don't want to do the marriage thing again?

Holy crap......no wonder I still can't figure out what my wife is saying 90% of the time.

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