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Stupid question of the day:  What is considered a good water temperature for indoor lap swimming?



2016-09-02 2:24 PM
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Stupid question of the day:  What is considered a good water temperature for indoor lap swimming?

Personally I like 70 +-1*

2016-09-02 2:40 PM
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Racing Manatees!!!

September 3-5
Adrienne - The Rut/Long Peak Vertical K on Friday
Chris - Venice Tri on Saturday
Jim - Boyne Sprint on Sunday
Karen - Ironman 70.3 World Championship, Mooloolaba, Queensland, Australia on Sunday
Markus - Towne Lake Triathlon Sprint on Monday
McMatt - TriRock Austin on Monday

Are there any other racers?




Good luck Racers!!!! Hope everyone has good weather, and a great time.
2016-09-02 2:47 PM
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Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois

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Stupid question of the day:  What is considered a good water temperature for indoor lap swimming?

what is this indoor lap swimming of which you speak?

2016-09-02 3:04 PM
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Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by jmkizer

Stupid question of the day:  What is considered a good water temperature for indoor lap swimming?

Personally I like 70 +-1*

Them are wetsuit temperatures!

2016-09-02 3:05 PM
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Originally posted by jmkizer

Stupid question of the day:  What is considered a good water temperature for indoor lap swimming?

what is this indoor lap swimming of which you speak?

Haha!

I looked at a gym today that has a lap pool that they keep at 82.  That seems warm for workouts.  This place is affiliated with a local hospital group and I was wondering if that is more of a therapeutic or old people temperature.



2016-09-02 3:19 PM
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Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by jmkizer

Stupid question of the day:  What is considered a good water temperature for indoor lap swimming?

what is this indoor lap swimming of which you speak?

Haha!

I looked at a gym today that has a lap pool that they keep at 82.  That seems warm for workouts.  This place is affiliated with a local hospital group and I was wondering if that is more of a therapeutic or old people temperature.

Yeah, that's blue hairs walking in the lanes kinda temps

2016-09-02 3:29 PM
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Originally posted by jmkizer

Stupid question of the day:  What is considered a good water temperature for indoor lap swimming?

I think the pool I swim at (at a local college - competition only, no therapy/fitness/public classes) is around 74-76*F.  

82*?  I'd boil.  I used to swim at one of the local rec centers who has fitness/arthritis/etc classes so they have to keep it hotter and man, it's tough to swim in, it's like swimming in a hot tub.

From usaswimming.org (general guidlines): 

Swim Team & Lap Swim

78 – 82 F  =   25.5 – 27.5 C  

Slightly warmer may be workable



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2016-09-02 3:31 PM
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Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois
Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by jmkizer

Stupid question of the day:  What is considered a good water temperature for indoor lap swimming?

what is this indoor lap swimming of which you speak?

Haha!

I looked at a gym today that has a lap pool that they keep at 82.  That seems warm for workouts.  This place is affiliated with a local hospital group and I was wondering if that is more of a therapeutic or old people temperature.

Yeah, that's blue hairs walking in the lanes kinda temps




Ouch... that's super warm... I swim in the pool at 70, and my kids' YMCA has two pools: one at 82 (for kids, lessons, and old folks activities) and one super cold, that is actually perfect for lap swimming.
2016-09-02 3:44 PM
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Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by jmkizer

Stupid question of the day:  What is considered a good water temperature for indoor lap swimming?

what is this indoor lap swimming of which you speak?

There are pools inside? Who knew?

My outdoor pool keeps it a cool 81*. Anything of a lower temperature is served for drinking, occasionally with ice, but most often in a 12 oz bottle. 

2016-09-02 3:45 PM
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Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois
Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by jmkizer

Stupid question of the day:  What is considered a good water temperature for indoor lap swimming?

what is this indoor lap swimming of which you speak?

Haha!

I looked at a gym today that has a lap pool that they keep at 82.  That seems warm for workouts.  This place is affiliated with a local hospital group and I was wondering if that is more of a therapeutic or old people temperature.

Yeah, that's blue hairs walking in the lanes kinda temps




I think I have been to that pool - I could actually taste the perfume in the water.


2016-09-02 3:47 PM
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Originally posted by jmkizer

Racing Manatees!!!

September 3-5
Adrienne - The Rut/Long Peak Vertical K on Friday
Chris - Venice Tri on Saturday
Jim - Boyne Sprint on Sunday
Karen - Ironman 70.3 World Championship, Mooloolaba, Queensland, Australia on Sunday
Markus - Towne Lake Triathlon Sprint on Monday
McMatt - TriRock Austin on Monday

Are there any other racers?

I'm not sure I'll be racing tomorrow. Email from RD says that the swim is already in doubt. The last time I raced on roads covered in water is my only DNF and only med tent visit. So it will be a morning of decision. Either way, I will have fun, even if I end up volunteering.

I hope all racers have fun, stay safe and smile as much as is possible!

2016-09-02 5:56 PM
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Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois

Originally posted by jmkizer

Stupid question of the day:  What is considered a good water temperature for indoor lap swimming?

Whatever the high schools set theirs at was good. Cold when first getting in but fine once moving, having a little heat generation built up. Think they had temperatures they needed to hit as they are competition pools. The gym pools tended to be too warm to really go after it. Also had a lot of variation day to day. They do have to cater to more casual people and walkers.

2016-09-02 6:02 PM
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Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by jmkizer

Stupid question of the day:  What is considered a good water temperature for indoor lap swimming?

Whatever the high schools set theirs at was good. Cold when first getting in but fine once moving, having a little heat generation built up. Think they had temperatures they needed to hit as they are competition pools. The gym pools tended to be too warm to really go after it. Also had a lot of variation day to day. They do have to cater to more casual people and walkers.

Thanks all!  82 just sounded too warm to me and I appreciate you confirming that.  It's a saline pool which is nice. The spin room left something to be desired as well but the location was quite attractive so I thought I'd ask about the pool temperature here.

2016-09-02 6:21 PM
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Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois
Originally posted by jmkizer

Racing Manatees!!!

September 3-5
Adrienne - The Rut/Long Peak Vertical K on Friday
Chris - Venice Tri on Saturday
Jim - Boyne Sprint on Sunday
Karen - Ironman 70.3 World Championship, Mooloolaba, Queensland, Australia on Sunday
Markus - Towne Lake Triathlon Sprint on Monday
McMatt - TriRock Austin on Monday

Are there any other racers?


GO MANATEES, GO! Have fun

I hope Karen made it to the Gold Coast with all of her stuff.
2016-09-02 6:29 PM
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Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois
Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by jmkizer

Stupid question of the day:  What is considered a good water temperature for indoor lap swimming?

Whatever the high schools set theirs at was good. Cold when first getting in but fine once moving, having a little heat generation built up. Think they had temperatures they needed to hit as they are competition pools. The gym pools tended to be too warm to really go after it. Also had a lot of variation day to day. They do have to cater to more casual people and walkers.

Thanks all!  82 just sounded too warm to me and I appreciate you confirming that.  It's a saline pool which is nice. The spin room left something to be desired as well but the location was quite attractive so I thought I'd ask about the pool temperature here.


The saline pool that I swim at (when I swim) is normally about 70-75 it's a good temp, bit cool when you first get in but great once you are warmed up. The pool I used to swim out was primarily used for baby/toddler swim lessons and it's temp was set at around 85 which is way too hot.

My one suggestion would be if you are swimming in a warmer pool then make sure you drink more because it's really easy to get dehydrated without realising it.


2016-09-02 7:11 PM
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Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois
Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by jmkizer

Stupid question of the day:  What is considered a good water temperature for indoor lap swimming?

Whatever the high schools set theirs at was good. Cold when first getting in but fine once moving, having a little heat generation built up. Think they had temperatures they needed to hit as they are competition pools. The gym pools tended to be too warm to really go after it. Also had a lot of variation day to day. They do have to cater to more casual people and walkers.

Thanks all!  82 just sounded too warm to me and I appreciate you confirming that.  It's a saline pool which is nice. The spin room left something to be desired as well but the location was quite attractive so I thought I'd ask about the pool temperature here.




I'm super late, but my REC pool varies between 70-81. Its warm. I wish it were cooler, but it isn't too bad. The "silver swimmers" all says its too cold. No pleasing everyone I guess.
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Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by jmkizer

Stupid question of the day:  What is considered a good water temperature for indoor lap swimming?

what is this indoor lap swimming of which you speak?

There are pools inside? Who knew?

My outdoor pool keeps it a cool 81*. Anything of a lower temperature is served for drinking, occasionally with ice, but most often in a 12 oz bottle. 




Pools? You get to swim in pools?!
The lake temp is 72 F now.

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2016-09-03 12:48 PM
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Go Adrienne!!!

Go Dub6!!!

Go Jim!!!
Go Karen!!!
Go Markus!!!
Go McManatee!!!

2016-09-04 5:42 PM
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Karen (and Rover the bike) did make it to Mooloolaba and finished the race. Still not sure what happened--my Garmin mysteriously refused to turn on at the start, so I have no data to figure it all out. I'm pretty sure I rode a bit extra on the bike. The middle loops were VERY confusing and poorly marked, and I'm not the only athlete it happened to. At most, I may have ridden about an extra 10.5 km. My splits for one 10 km section make ZERO sense (that was marked on the road, and a fast stretch, not the part where the big 18% hill was) and I'm pretty sure I rode at least part of "Loop 2" before I rode (or noticed the sign for) "Loop 1", then was told by an official, if you don't want to DQ, you'd better go back and ride Loop 2 again even if you think you did it, because you can't do them out of order." But if I subtract the time for an extra 10.5 km loop, that would put my bike split way up there with the top women in my AG....probably not. There were a bunch of overlaps with the loops and heading in and out of them from the Sunshine Motorway--I think I rode some extra between 40 and 50 km but no way to know how much extra. Ugh....

Beautiful course, and I'm glad I qualified, made it here, and finished, though I'd hoped for a more impressive end to my season than a long ride through the Twilight Zone! Will attempt a race report later. Not sure I want to relive it LOL.
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No mention of being last across the line! 



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That would have driven me bonkers!!

Congrats!
2016-09-04 7:31 PM
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So we got the athletes' guide for the 106 West Dillon Half Distance Tri for next Saturday. I'm really confused so I'm hoping you guys can help me sort this out.

I'm in the third and final wave and we start the swim at 9:43. I plan on starting towards the back because of my experience with IM Boulder last year so that puts my in the water at about 9:45. Because the swim is at 9,000 feet, I'm thinking my swim will be slower than usual but still under 40 minutes. That would put me out of the water at the latest 10:25.

The trek to T1 is up the boat ramp, across the ramp road, and up about 30 steep stairs. I'm giving myself 10 minutes for my pizza delivery, I mean my T1 time so that puts be at 10:35.

Not confusing yet, right? Just wait a sec!!

The bike course is a 2-loop course of 14 up 14 down. First 2 miles are not flat, but not too bad. Next 12 are all climbing to 10,300 feet. (What the hell did I sign up for???) The last 5 miles to the turn around are a mix of 5% to 8% grades.

Now for the confusing part: The guide has the first loop cut-off for wave 3 at 12:34. That gives me 1:59 to complete the first 28 miles. But what about the slower swimmers? The swim cutoff is 10:53, so they only have about 1:40 for T1 and that first loop. We have until 3:03 to finish the bike, so that's about 2:30 for the second loop.

Does this sound right? Even the pros have more time for the bike than my wave.

My brother-in-law rode the course today and it took him 1:51 for that first loop. He's in the wave with me so he's going to be cutting it close. While I am a better climber than he is, he descends faster. He told me that if I get a flat or have to stop for water (they're making us stop at aid stations!?!?!) that I'm not going to make the cutoff.

Many of us have emailed the race director but have not heard back.

I do know that if I don't make that first bike cutoff, or even the second, I'm going to be cranky. I will still do the run because they can't stop me. They can take my timing chip but they can't prevent me from running.

So, what are your thoughts?
2016-09-04 10:15 PM
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Would taper crazies be an acceptable thought? 

2016-09-05 8:32 AM
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Originally posted by fortissimo So we got the athletes' guide for the 106 West Dillon Half Distance Tri for next Saturday. I'm really confused so I'm hoping you guys can help me sort this out. I'm in the third and final wave and we start the swim at 9:43. I plan on starting towards the back because of my experience with IM Boulder last year so that puts my in the water at about 9:45. Because the swim is at 9,000 feet, I'm thinking my swim will be slower than usual but still under 40 minutes. That would put me out of the water at the latest 10:25. The trek to T1 is up the boat ramp, across the ramp road, and up about 30 steep stairs. I'm giving myself 10 minutes for my pizza delivery, I mean my T1 time so that puts be at 10:35. Not confusing yet, right? Just wait a sec!! The bike course is a 2-loop course of 14 up 14 down. First 2 miles are not flat, but not too bad. Next 12 are all climbing to 10,300 feet. (What the hell did I sign up for???) The last 5 miles to the turn around are a mix of 5% to 8% grades. Now for the confusing part: The guide has the first loop cut-off for wave 3 at 12:34. That gives me 1:59 to complete the first 28 miles. But what about the slower swimmers? The swim cutoff is 10:53, so they only have about 1:40 for T1 and that first loop. We have until 3:03 to finish the bike, so that's about 2:30 for the second loop. Does this sound right? Even the pros have more time for the bike than my wave. My brother-in-law rode the course today and it took him 1:51 for that first loop. He's in the wave with me so he's going to be cutting it close. While I am a better climber than he is, he descends faster. He told me that if I get a flat or have to stop for water (they're making us stop at aid stations!?!?!) that I'm not going to make the cutoff. Many of us have emailed the race director but have not heard back. I do know that if I don't make that first bike cutoff, or even the second, I'm going to be cranky. I will still do the run because they can't stop me. They can take my timing chip but they can't prevent me from running. So, what are your thoughts?

yikes!  Do let us know what the RD says.  It make no sense that the pros would get more time before bike cutoff than the age groupers!

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