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 2018-07-09 7:54 AM in reply to: amd723 |
Master  9705     Raleigh, NC area |  Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSEDOriginally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Powermeter talk. Ann-Marie - how are you liking the Vector 3s after the initial setup? Nancy - how are you liking the Assiomas? Someone in my tri club was asking about pedal-based power meters and I thought I'd follow-up with you two. I like the Vectors! I haven't had any trouble with them - guess i bought them after Garmin fixed the battery door issue that was apparently causing some issues with lots of users. They are super easy to transfer between bikes and they are Look compatible, so I had no issues with fitting my set up to the pedal and no clipping in and out issues. I get lots of power numbers that I assume are correct - now I just have to figure out how to use those numbers in training and, more importantly, racing Nice! I'm glad to hear that it's been smooth sailing since the firmware upgrade that tripped you up at the beginning. FWIW, I started to like my PM a lot more when I added "lap NP" to my interval screen. Before doing that, I was using 3 sec power (as instructed) and making an educate guess and got super frustrated. After digging into the Garmin setting some more, I added the lap NP and now at least I know if I'm on the right track! |
| 2018-07-09 8:00 AM in reply to: glfprncs |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED Originally posted by glfprncs Originally posted by jmkizer The Assiomas were ridiculously easy to set up, though in order to do so, you have to download the app and connect them initially that way. The app is also the only way to look at how much battery life you have left. Coach seems to like the data they give him, so there's that, too. I don't get all the metrics that the Vectors provide, but I certainly get enough (L/R balance, cadence, L/R torque effectiveness, L/R Pedal Smoothness) that I don't ever care to look at. The batteries are rechargeable and apparently, they'll last up to 60 hours. I've plugged them in twice since I've gotten them, not that I really needed to as they didn't have half those hours yet. Data seems reliable and accurate, though I really don't have anything to compare it with. DC Rainmakers reviews were quite solid, particularly at the price point. I have to say that training with a power meter has been a bit of a game changer with regards to getting stronger on the bike. I love the focus it's given me for trainer rides and makes the trainer FAR more bearable. I've never ridden so hard on the trainer, ever. It's also been a bit frustrating at times when I'm asked to ride as a specific wattage, and I just can't do it on the elevation profiles where I can safely ride. The ONLY thing I don't really like is that they aren't really Look compatible (my old pedals were Keos). The provided cleats don't clip in as 'neatly' as the Keo cleats do, though I've never had any problems getting into or out of the pedals. I'm sure over time, the feeling clipping into the Assiomas will be old hat. Powermeter talk. Ann-Marie - how are you liking the Vector 3s after the initial setup? Nancy - how are you liking the Assiomas? Someone in my tri club was asking about pedal-based power meters and I thought I'd follow-up with you two. I agree with your comments! The PM has helped me on my trainer rides but caused the occasional frustration on my outdoor rides. Since my races are outside, this is a bit of an issue! The PowerTap pedals use the same cleats as the Assiomas. I have no love for those cleats and listed them in as a CON when talking to my tri club peeps. PowerTap pedal pros an cons Pro: super easy to move between bikes |
| 2018-07-09 8:46 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED
Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Powermeter talk. Ann-Marie - how are you liking the Vector 3s after the initial setup? Nancy - how are you liking the Assiomas? Someone in my tri club was asking about pedal-based power meters and I thought I'd follow-up with you two. I like the Vectors! I haven't had any trouble with them - guess i bought them after Garmin fixed the battery door issue that was apparently causing some issues with lots of users. They are super easy to transfer between bikes and they are Look compatible, so I had no issues with fitting my set up to the pedal and no clipping in and out issues. I get lots of power numbers that I assume are correct - now I just have to figure out how to use those numbers in training and, more importantly, racing Nice! I'm glad to hear that it's been smooth sailing since the firmware upgrade that tripped you up at the beginning. FWIW, I started to like my PM a lot more when I added "lap NP" to my interval screen. Before doing that, I was using 3 sec power (as instructed) and making an educate guess and got super frustrated. After digging into the Garmin setting some more, I added the lap NP and now at least I know if I'm on the right track! yes, I’ve added NP to my data screen, but right now I’m really just riding and looking at the #s later! On the trainer I do try to stay at the prescribed wattage. From my limited understanding ( I’m trying to educate myself more), to avoid blowing up on the run you should try to have NP and Average power be similar ( but use the NP for your race #) as that avoids surges and other things that can screw up pacing . I’m sure I’ve explained this wrong, but I sort of know what I’m trying to say |
| 2018-07-09 8:48 AM in reply to: amd723 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED Originally posted by amd723
Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Powermeter talk. Ann-Marie - how are you liking the Vector 3s after the initial setup? Nancy - how are you liking the Assiomas? Someone in my tri club was asking about pedal-based power meters and I thought I'd follow-up with you two. I like the Vectors! I haven't had any trouble with them - guess i bought them after Garmin fixed the battery door issue that was apparently causing some issues with lots of users. They are super easy to transfer between bikes and they are Look compatible, so I had no issues with fitting my set up to the pedal and no clipping in and out issues. I get lots of power numbers that I assume are correct - now I just have to figure out how to use those numbers in training and, more importantly, racing Nice! I'm glad to hear that it's been smooth sailing since the firmware upgrade that tripped you up at the beginning. FWIW, I started to like my PM a lot more when I added "lap NP" to my interval screen. Before doing that, I was using 3 sec power (as instructed) and making an educate guess and got super frustrated. After digging into the Garmin setting some more, I added the lap NP and now at least I know if I'm on the right track! yes, I’ve added NP to my data screen, but right now I’m really just riding and looking at the #s later! On the trainer I do try to stay at the prescribed wattage. From my limited understanding ( I’m trying to educate myself more), to avoid blowing up on the run you should try to have NP and Average power be similar ( but use the NP for your race #) as that avoids surges and other things that can screw up pacing . I’m sure I’ve explained this wrong, but I sort of know what I’m trying to say Jackie wants me to look at the VI and keep that low. Not sure how you get up hills with no variability though. |
| 2018-07-09 9:44 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
| Alpharetta, Georgia | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED This is totally not a huge deal, but it's bugging me. Have you ever had a workout not sync/upload to Strava? I did two workouts yesterday, the first one uploaded just fine. The second, my open water swim, synched to Garmin Connect and BT, but is nowhere to be found on Strava. I did the disconnect/reconnect thing, then uploaded a run file so it would sync, but nothing. I keep asking myself... if it didn't upload to Strava, did I even work out? haha |
| 2018-07-09 11:14 AM in reply to: lisac957 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED Originally posted by lisac957 This is totally not a huge deal, but it's bugging me. Have you ever had a workout not sync/upload to Strava? I did two workouts yesterday, the first one uploaded just fine. The second, my open water swim, synched to Garmin Connect and BT, but is nowhere to be found on Strava. I did the disconnect/reconnect thing, then uploaded a run file so it would sync, but nothing. I keep asking myself... if it didn't upload to Strava, did I even work out? haha Yes, once or twice I've had to download the file from Garmin and then manually upload it to Strava. |
| 2018-07-09 1:06 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Member 2098 Simsbury, Connecticut | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by amd723
Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Powermeter talk. Ann-Marie - how are you liking the Vector 3s after the initial setup? Nancy - how are you liking the Assiomas? Someone in my tri club was asking about pedal-based power meters and I thought I'd follow-up with you two. I like the Vectors! I haven't had any trouble with them - guess i bought them after Garmin fixed the battery door issue that was apparently causing some issues with lots of users. They are super easy to transfer between bikes and they are Look compatible, so I had no issues with fitting my set up to the pedal and no clipping in and out issues. I get lots of power numbers that I assume are correct - now I just have to figure out how to use those numbers in training and, more importantly, racing Nice! I'm glad to hear that it's been smooth sailing since the firmware upgrade that tripped you up at the beginning. FWIW, I started to like my PM a lot more when I added "lap NP" to my interval screen. Before doing that, I was using 3 sec power (as instructed) and making an educate guess and got super frustrated. After digging into the Garmin setting some more, I added the lap NP and now at least I know if I'm on the right track! yes, I’ve added NP to my data screen, but right now I’m really just riding and looking at the #s later! On the trainer I do try to stay at the prescribed wattage. From my limited understanding ( I’m trying to educate myself more), to avoid blowing up on the run you should try to have NP and Average power be similar ( but use the NP for your race #) as that avoids surges and other things that can screw up pacing . I’m sure I’ve explained this wrong, but I sort of know what I’m trying to say Jackie wants me to look at the VI and keep that low. Not sure how you get up hills with no variability though. you can go up 20 watts on an uphill, down 10 on a downhill (that's what my coach said to aim for). VI should be 1.05 or lower (NP/Avg Power) We just had a big VI conversation. It's very hard to achieve the perfect VI in training because we have things like stop signs and red lights (and bad pavement in some cases). The more you stop pedaling, the worse your VI looks. My conversation specifically was "do I exclude the zeros" which is an option on Garmin. Coach said NO, she wants the zeros. :p I find that in races and perfect situations my VI is just fine. Riding around town - it sucks. |
| 2018-07-09 1:21 PM in reply to: mtnbikerchk |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by jmkizer you can go up 20 watts on an uphill, down 10 on a downhill (that's what my coach said to aim for). VI should be 1.05 or lower (NP/Avg Power) We just had a big VI conversation. It's very hard to achieve the perfect VI in training because we have things like stop signs and red lights (and bad pavement in some cases). The more you stop pedaling, the worse your VI looks. My conversation specifically was "do I exclude the zeros" which is an option on Garmin. Coach said NO, she wants the zeros. :p I find that in races and perfect situations my VI is just fine. Riding around town - it sucks. Originally posted by amd723
Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Powermeter talk. Ann-Marie - how are you liking the Vector 3s after the initial setup? Nancy - how are you liking the Assiomas? Someone in my tri club was asking about pedal-based power meters and I thought I'd follow-up with you two. I like the Vectors! I haven't had any trouble with them - guess i bought them after Garmin fixed the battery door issue that was apparently causing some issues with lots of users. They are super easy to transfer between bikes and they are Look compatible, so I had no issues with fitting my set up to the pedal and no clipping in and out issues. I get lots of power numbers that I assume are correct - now I just have to figure out how to use those numbers in training and, more importantly, racing Nice! I'm glad to hear that it's been smooth sailing since the firmware upgrade that tripped you up at the beginning. FWIW, I started to like my PM a lot more when I added "lap NP" to my interval screen. Before doing that, I was using 3 sec power (as instructed) and making an educate guess and got super frustrated. After digging into the Garmin setting some more, I added the lap NP and now at least I know if I'm on the right track! yes, I’ve added NP to my data screen, but right now I’m really just riding and looking at the #s later! On the trainer I do try to stay at the prescribed wattage. From my limited understanding ( I’m trying to educate myself more), to avoid blowing up on the run you should try to have NP and Average power be similar ( but use the NP for your race #) as that avoids surges and other things that can screw up pacing . I’m sure I’ve explained this wrong, but I sort of know what I’m trying to say Jackie wants me to look at the VI and keep that low. Not sure how you get up hills with no variability though. Good information, thanks! |
| 2018-07-11 8:18 AM in reply to: amd723 |
Veteran 1900 Southampton, Ontario | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED Yikes - Proof of life! Its been a while. I see all those amazing workouts on Strava through. Been busy with work, life and a bit of training. Focus recently has been on prep for a 70km gravel ride coming up on the 27th. My last race went okay but through it I won (draw prize) 6 weeks of coaching. I have to be honest and say that Im not sure I "like" the coaching but I am really hopeful that it will actually pay dividends come race day. I said I always had issues with hills so my plan has many workouts with hill repeats - I dont know why this surprises me, I know its good for me, but that doesnt mean I like it. Anyways I hope everyone is doing well out there! |
| 2018-07-12 11:29 AM in reply to: DaveL |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED Originally posted by DaveL Yikes - Proof of life! Its been a while. I see all those amazing workouts on Strava through. Been busy with work, life and a bit of training. Focus recently has been on prep for a 70km gravel ride coming up on the 27th. My last race went okay but through it I won (draw prize) 6 weeks of coaching. I have to be honest and say that Im not sure I "like" the coaching but I am really hopeful that it will actually pay dividends come race day. I said I always had issues with hills so my plan has many workouts with hill repeats - I dont know why this surprises me, I know its good for me, but that doesnt mean I like it. Anyways I hope everyone is doing well out there! Thanks for stopping by! Please let us know how your race goes! |
| 2018-07-12 2:37 PM in reply to: lisac957 |
| 310 Raleigh, North Carolina | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED Originally posted by lisac957 This is totally not a huge deal, but it's bugging me. Have you ever had a workout not sync/upload to Strava? I did two workouts yesterday, the first one uploaded just fine. The second, my open water swim, synched to Garmin Connect and BT, but is nowhere to be found on Strava. I did the disconnect/reconnect thing, then uploaded a run file so it would sync, but nothing. I keep asking myself... if it didn't upload to Strava, did I even work out? haha Currently, it looks like none of my workouts have been syncing over from Strava to BT  |
| 2018-07-12 4:30 PM in reply to: cdban66 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED I'm out of town tomorrow so here's the early edition... Racing Manatees!!! July 14-15 Is anyone else racing? |
| 2018-07-12 4:42 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Veteran 2441 Western Australia | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED Originally posted by jmkizer GO RACERS!!! I'm out of town tomorrow so here's the early edition... Racing Manatees!!! July 14-15 Is anyone else racing? Hope everyone has fun and PRs. I'm only doing 13k on Sunday rather than 21. The hills in the 21 are bad and I haven't been running. |
| 2018-07-12 6:20 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED Originally posted by jmkizer I'm out of town tomorrow so here's the early edition... Racing Manatees!!! July 14-15 Is anyone else racing? wow, lots of racers! Go have fun!! |
| 2018-07-12 7:11 PM in reply to: amd723 |
| 310 Raleigh, North Carolina | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer I'm out of town tomorrow so here's the early edition... Racing Manatees!!! July 14-15 Is anyone else racing? wow, lots of racers! Go have fun!! I had the same thought. Lots of racers. Good luck! |
| 2018-07-13 2:22 AM in reply to: awm007 |
| 143 | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED Originally posted by awm007 Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer I'm out of town tomorrow so here's the early edition... Racing Manatees!!! July 14-15 Is anyone else racing? wow, lots of racers! Go have fun!! I had the same thought. Lots of racers. Good luck! Good luck everybody and have great races! |
| 2018-07-13 8:26 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
| Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED Originally posted by jmkizer I'm out of town tomorrow so here's the early edition... Racing Manatees!!! July 14-15 Is anyone else racing? BIG list of racers and a lot of fun race names! Good luck, manatees - have fun, be fast, be safe!! |
| 2018-07-13 10:25 AM in reply to: melbo55 |
| 436 | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED Originally posted by melbo55 Originally posted by jmkizer I'm out of town tomorrow so here's the early edition... Racing Manatees!!! July 14-15 Is anyone else racing? BIG list of racers and a lot of fun race names! Good luck, manatees - have fun, be fast, be safe!! x2. The names are definitely not as fun down here in TX. Good luck everyone!! |
| 2018-07-13 10:39 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 4452 | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED Originally posted by jmkizer Gooo racers! Have fun, be safe!I'm out of town tomorrow so here's the early edition... Racing Manatees!!! July 14-15 Is anyone else racing? |
| 2018-07-13 1:06 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED Originally posted by jmkizer I'm out of town tomorrow so here's the early edition... Racing Manatees!!! July 14-15 Is anyone else racing? I'm doing the 5 k this week that I thought I was doing last week. I need an assistant. Good luck racers |
| 2018-07-13 1:46 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Member 667 | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED Originally posted by jmkizer I'm out of town tomorrow so here's the early edition... Racing Manatees!!! July 14-15 Is anyone else racing? Good luck racers and have a blast! |
| 2018-07-14 2:41 PM in reply to: JBacarella |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED Originally posted by JBacarella Originally posted by jmkizer I'm out of town tomorrow so here's the early edition... Racing Manatees!!! July 14-15 Is anyone else racing? I'm doing the 5 k this week that I thought I was doing last week. I need an assistant. Good luck racers I feel I must straighten the record. I had the date right when I wrote it. The city asked them to move it back a week, because of the 4th of July holiday. I took 2nd in the 50-59 age group and was third for masters. |
| 2018-07-14 6:21 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Member 836 North Augusta, South Carolina | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by amd723
Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Powermeter talk. Ann-Marie - how are you liking the Vector 3s after the initial setup? Nancy - how are you liking the Assiomas? Someone in my tri club was asking about pedal-based power meters and I thought I'd follow-up with you two. I like the Vectors! I haven't had any trouble with them - guess i bought them after Garmin fixed the battery door issue that was apparently causing some issues with lots of users. They are super easy to transfer between bikes and they are Look compatible, so I had no issues with fitting my set up to the pedal and no clipping in and out issues. I get lots of power numbers that I assume are correct - now I just have to figure out how to use those numbers in training and, more importantly, racing Nice! I'm glad to hear that it's been smooth sailing since the firmware upgrade that tripped you up at the beginning. FWIW, I started to like my PM a lot more when I added "lap NP" to my interval screen. Before doing that, I was using 3 sec power (as instructed) and making an educate guess and got super frustrated. After digging into the Garmin setting some more, I added the lap NP and now at least I know if I'm on the right track! yes, I’ve added NP to my data screen, but right now I’m really just riding and looking at the #s later! On the trainer I do try to stay at the prescribed wattage. From my limited understanding ( I’m trying to educate myself more), to avoid blowing up on the run you should try to have NP and Average power be similar ( but use the NP for your race #) as that avoids surges and other things that can screw up pacing . I’m sure I’ve explained this wrong, but I sort of know what I’m trying to say Jackie wants me to look at the VI and keep that low. Not sure how you get up hills with no variability though. Speaking of V.I., I was SOOOOO close to keeping mine under 1.10 today (which is what my coach wants). Not coasting helps a lot. My coach calls it "soft pedaling" down the hills. By doing so, even though I may only produce 80-90 watts, it narrows that VI gap. Last outdoor ride, my VI was 1.16. Today it was 1.11. |
| 2018-07-14 9:02 PM in reply to: glfprncs |
Member 667 | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED I have Santa Rosa 70.3 two weeks from today. They still have not put out the Athletes Guide. And the 2017 doesn't address this either. So I need someone to hold my hand through this question: T1 and T2 are in two different locations. When I get out of the water, I'm assuming I will put my swim gear in the bike gear bag and it will magically appear at the finish line. My question is, will it this be like a Full IM and you hand them your bag or will you leave it at your bike T1 location and House Elves (for you Harry Potter fans) collect the bags. I'm so confused. Seriously, all the bags we had at IM Boulder brought me way more stress than the race itself. Also, anyone know how bad Chalk Hill really is? Janyne, this was part of the old Vineman and they've put it back in Santa Rosa. TIA! |
| 2018-07-14 9:32 PM in reply to: fortissimo |
Master 4452 | Subject: RE: Manatees - 2018 Edition Now CLOSED Originally posted by fortissimoI have Santa Rosa 70.3 two weeks from today. They still have not put out the Athletes Guide. And the 2017 doesn't address this either. So I need someone to hold my hand through this question:T1 and T2 are in two different locations. When I get out of the water, I'm assuming I will put my swim gear in the bike gear bag and it will magically appear at the finish line. My question is, will it this be like a Full IM and you hand them your bag or will you leave it at your bike T1 location and House Elves (for you Harry Potter fans) collect the bags.I'm so confused. Seriously, all the bags we had at IM Boulder brought me way more stress than the race itself.Also, anyone know how bad Chalk Hill really is? Janyne, this was part of the old Vineman and they've put it back in Santa Rosa. TIA! I would assume it would be like the full and you or vols put in a bag or bucket based on your race number. I would think it would be dangerous to leave at bike rack.I didn't find Chalk Hill to be very bad, but I train on hills regularly. Just don't try to hit it hard and you'll be fine. |
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