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 2016-03-01 8:33 AM in reply to: msteiner |
 310  Raleigh, North Carolina |  Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - ClosedOriginally posted by msteiner Well I managed to find myself on the DL. I've been on a weightlifting kick the past few weeks, which has been going great until last week. Was doing leg press Tuesday and felt a pop in my lower left ribcage on my last set. Usually I try to go a little further back than normal to avoid cheating on this workout, but I think I went down too far and too fast. I got through the set ok, but was spooked by it. Later on as adrenaline wore off I felt a bit of pain in the area. I had a rest day Wednesday, which was timely. I worked chest and triceps Thursday, which I got through ok, but later on once again could feel pain my lower left ribcage. Then Friday I started coming down with a cold. I spent the weekend recovering from both. I feel better as far as the cold goes, but the rib injury is concerning. I've googled it online, and apparently rib injuries through leg press is pretty common, so I need to be a bit more careful with that one. I'm taking this week to let it heal more and play be ear from here. Everything that I've read seen seems to think that rest is the way to take care of this.
I had that exact same thing happen once! It didn't hurt at the time but freaked me out (in my case it was an audible pop), then got pretty sore later. In my case, it resolved on its own and more quickly than I would have thought. After that, I stuck mostly to squats which do not seem to crowd the ribcage like a deep leg press. Relatedly, I'm also on the DL. I was doing basically nothing yesterday but bent down a little weird and my lower back seized up. It wasn't bad at the time but later I had trouble even walking around due to the muscles spasms. It's a little better today but still tender. I had a bad back blow-out 10 years ago that took over a year to resolve. This one doesn't feel that bad. I'm currently debating whether to go back to a chiropractor that I have seen in the past. I'm a little reluctant to do so because in the past he wanted to do a never-ended treatment plan. Otherwise, some heat and a small massager that I bought are in my future. |
| 2016-03-01 8:40 AM in reply to: awm007 |
Master 2429  Falls Church, Virginia | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Closed Originally posted by awm007 Originally posted by msteiner Well I managed to find myself on the DL. I've been on a weightlifting kick the past few weeks, which has been going great until last week. Was doing leg press Tuesday and felt a pop in my lower left ribcage on my last set. Usually I try to go a little further back than normal to avoid cheating on this workout, but I think I went down too far and too fast. I got through the set ok, but was spooked by it. Later on as adrenaline wore off I felt a bit of pain in the area. I had a rest day Wednesday, which was timely. I worked chest and triceps Thursday, which I got through ok, but later on once again could feel pain my lower left ribcage. Then Friday I started coming down with a cold. I spent the weekend recovering from both. I feel better as far as the cold goes, but the rib injury is concerning. I've googled it online, and apparently rib injuries through leg press is pretty common, so I need to be a bit more careful with that one. I'm taking this week to let it heal more and play be ear from here. Everything that I've read seen seems to think that rest is the way to take care of this.
I had that exact same thing happen once! It didn't hurt at the time but freaked me out (in my case it was an audible pop), then got pretty sore later. In my case, it resolved on its own and more quickly than I would have thought. After that, I stuck mostly to squats which do not seem to crowd the ribcage like a deep leg press. Relatedly, I'm also on the DL. I was doing basically nothing yesterday but bent down a little weird and my lower back seized up. It wasn't bad at the time but later I had trouble even walking around due to the muscles spasms. It's a little better today but still tender. I had a bad back blow-out 10 years ago that took over a year to resolve. This one doesn't feel that bad. I'm currently debating whether to go back to a chiropractor that I have seen in the past. I'm a little reluctant to do so because in the past he wanted to do a never-ended treatment plan. Otherwise, some heat and a small massager that I bought are in my future. Oh no! We want the DL to shrink, not grow.  I hope the heat and massage help you. |
| 2016-03-01 8:50 AM in reply to: Atlantia |
Master 9705  Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Closed Originally posted by Atlantia Originally posted by awm007 Oh no! We want the DL to shrink, not grow. Originally posted by msteiner I had that exact same thing happen once! It didn't hurt at the time but freaked me out (in my case it was an audible pop), then got pretty sore later. In my case, it resolved on its own and more quickly than I would have thought. After that, I stuck mostly to squats which do not seem to crowd the ribcage like a deep leg press. Relatedly, I'm also on the DL. I was doing basically nothing yesterday but bent down a little weird and my lower back seized up. It wasn't bad at the time but later I had trouble even walking around due to the muscles spasms. It's a little better today but still tender. I had a bad back blow-out 10 years ago that took over a year to resolve. This one doesn't feel that bad. I'm currently debating whether to go back to a chiropractor that I have seen in the past. I'm a little reluctant to do so because in the past he wanted to do a never-ended treatment plan. Otherwise, some heat and a small massager that I bought are in my future. Well I managed to find myself on the DL. I've been on a weightlifting kick the past few weeks, which has been going great until last week. Was doing leg press Tuesday and felt a pop in my lower left ribcage on my last set. Usually I try to go a little further back than normal to avoid cheating on this workout, but I think I went down too far and too fast. I got through the set ok, but was spooked by it. Later on as adrenaline wore off I felt a bit of pain in the area. I had a rest day Wednesday, which was timely. I worked chest and triceps Thursday, which I got through ok, but later on once again could feel pain my lower left ribcage. Then Friday I started coming down with a cold. I spent the weekend recovering from both. I feel better as far as the cold goes, but the rib injury is concerning. I've googled it online, and apparently rib injuries through leg press is pretty common, so I need to be a bit more careful with that one. I'm taking this week to let it heal more and play be ear from here. Everything that I've read seen seems to think that rest is the way to take care of this.
I hope the heat and massage help you. No kidding! It looks like we may need to add TJ as well. I hate that! NO MORE INJURIES! |
| 2016-03-01 9:44 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Closed Oh, but then there is this! Manatees on the rebound! "Manatees are another story. Their rebound is years in the making, going from a low of about 1,000 in 1973 to about 6,200 in the last annual count. Since their numbers have been no lower than 4,500 in the past five years, Fish and Wildlife moved in January to reclassify the manatees from endangered to threatened."
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| 2016-03-01 10:07 AM in reply to: #5157817 |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Closed No no. I'm not DLed. I did have a cranky knee this morning but it was different pain. I think a couple things are in play here. First I need to look at the mileage on some of my shoes. Yesterday I wore the new Hokas with no problem. Today it was an older pair of Launch. Also, back when I was seeing my myotherapist I remember the pain moving as he would work out the tight spots. Like anything when you fix one part the next weakest rears up. I've been working the trigger points and I think as I work them it just reveals others that are tight. |
| 2016-03-01 10:07 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Closed Originally posted by jmkizer Oh, but then there is this! Manatees on the rebound! "Manatees are another story. Their rebound is years in the making, going from a low of about 1,000 in 1973 to about 6,200 in the last annual count. Since their numbers have been no lower than 4,500 in the past five years, Fish and Wildlife moved in January to reclassify the manatees from endangered to threatened."
Love that manatees are on the rebound, but all these people should be arrested for harassing the manatee! The are on the endangered species act, so you can swim with them,but you can't do anything to harass them. Touching and surrounding them can be seen as harassment. That ends the legal portion of the discussion |
| 2016-03-01 10:08 AM in reply to: rrrunner |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Closed Originally posted by rrrunner No no. I'm not DLed. I did have a cranky knee this morning but it was different pain. I think a couple things are in play here. First I need to look at the mileage on some of my shoes. Yesterday I wore the new Hokas with no problem. Today it was an older pair of Launch. Also, back when I was seeing my myotherapist I remember the pain moving as he would work out the tight spots. Like anything when you fix one part the next weakest rears up. I've been working the trigger points and I think as I work them it just reveals others that are tight. Good! |
| 2016-03-01 10:08 AM in reply to: Atlantia |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Closed Originally posted by Atlantia Originally posted by awm007 Oh no! We want the DL to shrink, not grow. Originally posted by msteiner I had that exact same thing happen once! It didn't hurt at the time but freaked me out (in my case it was an audible pop), then got pretty sore later. In my case, it resolved on its own and more quickly than I would have thought. After that, I stuck mostly to squats which do not seem to crowd the ribcage like a deep leg press. Relatedly, I'm also on the DL. I was doing basically nothing yesterday but bent down a little weird and my lower back seized up. It wasn't bad at the time but later I had trouble even walking around due to the muscles spasms. It's a little better today but still tender. I had a bad back blow-out 10 years ago that took over a year to resolve. This one doesn't feel that bad. I'm currently debating whether to go back to a chiropractor that I have seen in the past. I'm a little reluctant to do so because in the past he wanted to do a never-ended treatment plan. Otherwise, some heat and a small massager that I bought are in my future. Well I managed to find myself on the DL. I've been on a weightlifting kick the past few weeks, which has been going great until last week. Was doing leg press Tuesday and felt a pop in my lower left ribcage on my last set. Usually I try to go a little further back than normal to avoid cheating on this workout, but I think I went down too far and too fast. I got through the set ok, but was spooked by it. Later on as adrenaline wore off I felt a bit of pain in the area. I had a rest day Wednesday, which was timely. I worked chest and triceps Thursday, which I got through ok, but later on once again could feel pain my lower left ribcage. Then Friday I started coming down with a cold. I spent the weekend recovering from both. I feel better as far as the cold goes, but the rib injury is concerning. I've googled it online, and apparently rib injuries through leg press is pretty common, so I need to be a bit more careful with that one. I'm taking this week to let it heal more and play be ear from here. Everything that I've read seen seems to think that rest is the way to take care of this.
I hope the heat and massage help you. UGH!! |
| 2016-03-01 10:20 AM in reply to: amd723 |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Closed I had a great, if short, trip to western north carolina. Before race day I was able to get in a couple of nice hikes. It snowed on this Florida girl and we hiked through a lot of deep snow. Hiking through snow is hard. Who knew My race was fantastic. It was put on by the Cherokee runners. The race was point to point, started a bit out of the reservation and ended inside it. It was small -about 80 runners and had some of the best swag and prizes. It was also a nice, mainly gentle downhill -just 2 or 3 ups. And it was cold -in the 20s at the start. That is the coldest weather I've ever run in! Since the race was so small they had 10 year AGs and only gave out prizes to 1st in each plus the OA man and woman's. I was lucky enough to win my AG and received a hand-made (by one of the Cherokees) dream catcher. The finisher medals were also hand-made with the strap hand beaded with beads representing the trail of tears. Cool stuff! They also had a big raffle whose prizes included a hand woven blanket, REI gift certificates and other nice things. They club is trying to grow the race, so if you're looking for a low key, fun 10 miler next year, check it out! |
| 2016-03-01 10:30 AM in reply to: amd723 |
Master 4119 Toronto Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Closed Originally posted by amd723 I had a great, if short, trip to western north carolina. Before race day I was able to get in a couple of nice hikes. It snowed on this Florida girl and we hiked through a lot of deep snow. Hiking through snow is hard. Who knew My race was fantastic. It was put on by the Cherokee runners. The race was point to point, started a bit out of the reservation and ended inside it. It was small -about 80 runners and had some of the best swag and prizes. It was also a nice, mainly gentle downhill -just 2 or 3 ups. And it was cold -in the 20s at the start. That is the coldest weather I've ever run in! Since the race was so small they had 10 year AGs and only gave out prizes to 1st in each plus the OA man and woman's. I was lucky enough to win my AG and received a hand-made (by one of the Cherokees) dream catcher. The finisher medals were also hand-made with the strap hand beaded with beads representing the trail of tears. Cool stuff! They also had a big raffle whose prizes included a hand woven blanket, REI gift certificates and other nice things. They club is trying to grow the race, so if you're looking for a low key, fun 10 miler next year, check it out! That sounds like a super cool experience and special finishers medal and award! Also congrats on the AG win! |
| 2016-03-01 10:58 AM in reply to: amd723 |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Closed Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Oh, but then there is this! Manatees on the rebound! "Manatees are another story. Their rebound is years in the making, going from a low of about 1,000 in 1973 to about 6,200 in the last annual count. Since their numbers have been no lower than 4,500 in the past five years, Fish and Wildlife moved in January to reclassify the manatees from endangered to threatened."
Love that manatees are on the rebound, but all these people should be arrested for harassing the manatee! The are on the endangered species act, so you can swim with them,but you can't do anything to harass them. Touching and surrounding them can be seen as harassment. That ends the legal portion of the discussion X2 OK, back to triathlon related stuff. |
| 2016-03-01 1:17 PM in reply to: 0 |
| 812 Katy, Texas | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Closed I just ordered a new between the arms hydration system. The new xlab torpedo kompact. In all my races up to this point I've been able to avoid any and all aid stations on the bike. I've never needed more than 2 water bottles for the bike leg. With the IM coming up, I knew I was going to have to figure out how I was going to "handle" the aid stations. I've been using an aero bottle that you refill (with a "refill" bottle behind the seat), but I was worried about grabbing a bottle, refilling my aero bottle and chunking the empty all within the space of the aid station. With the kompact, it grabs regular water bottles tightly so you can just stick them in there. So new aid station strategy will be to dump the empty at beginning of aid station, grab new bottle and keep moving. Hopefully I won't have to slow down much to do this. Then just drink out of the regular bottle while keeping one arm in the aero bars. http://www.xlab-usa.com/torpedo-kompact.html  Edited by Jet Black 2016-03-01 1:23 PM |
| 2016-03-01 1:43 PM in reply to: Jet Black |
Extreme Veteran 2263 Ridgeland, Mississippi | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Closed I really like that computer mount location. I had my Garmin on my stem while racing, which worked but sometimes I wished it was a little further forward. On top of a torpedo mounted bottle would be perfect. |
| 2016-03-01 2:27 PM in reply to: msteiner |
| 812 Katy, Texas | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Closed Originally posted by msteiner I really like that computer mount location. I had my Garmin on my stem while racing, which worked but sometimes I wished it was a little further forward. On top of a torpedo mounted bottle would be perfect. Yeah, that was a big selling point for me too. I had used the garmin rubberbands to strap my computer directly onto the bottle of my previous BTA mount because the built in mount was way too far back and hard to read. But this is much cleaner and much less likely to result in a lost computer. |
| 2016-03-01 2:32 PM in reply to: Jet Black |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Closed Sean, do you still have a seat tube bottle holder as well? |
| 2016-03-01 4:14 PM in reply to: cdban66 |
| 812 Katy, Texas | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Closed Originally posted by cdban66 Sean, do you still have a seat tube bottle holder as well? No, just BTA and behind the seat. Round bottles on the seat or down tube are very "un-aero". I've got a torhans vr on the seat tube that I use for my spare tube, tools, etc. (not my bike)  |
| 2016-03-01 4:51 PM in reply to: Jet Black |
Member 285 Cypress, Texas | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Closed Proof of life post. Work starting to settle down. Still haven't been able to train as much as I would like to, but still getting a fair amount in. Trips to the pool unfortunately are far in between, once it gets a little warmer it will get easier though. Well actually outside temperatures are already warm enough to go swimming, it's the pool and lake temperatures that aren't quite there yet. 79 F today here, definitely starting to warm up. I was looking at my training history and realized that exactly a year ago I started my training (post GBS that is). At that point in time I was able to run about 1/4 mile without having to take a walk break and couldn't do more than 100 yards continuous swimming without rest. I have definitely improved quite a bit on that. Distances are not the issue anymore, I just need to pick up some speed now. I was able to do my long run last weekend with a sub 11:00 pace which is the first time I was able to comfortably do that without pushing my heart rate into dangerous zones. (I do think that the trip to the allergist and me getting on an inhaler did make a bit of a difference). |
| 2016-03-01 5:50 PM in reply to: Jet Black |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Closed Originally posted by Jet Black Originally posted by cdban66 No, just BTA and behind the seat. Round bottles on the seat or down tube are very "un-aero". I've got a torhans vr on the seat tube that I use for my spare tube, tools, etc. (not my bike) Sean, do you still have a seat tube bottle holder as well? My original thought holds. With the old bottle, refill before hitting aid station. dump bottle in aid station, grab new and put it behind seat. It makes drinking easier with the straw. Your new bottle seems to make drinking a bit more of a challenge(for me anyway), but the time loss seems negligible when compared to the comfort of the computer viewing. I think there in lies one of the biggest assets that most of us don't maximize. Comfort. Practice the bottle swapping/drinking/etc. Practice all the little stuff and get comfortable with it and you will shave time off. Someone here has a signature line that reads "slow is smooth, smooth is fast". I believe that is advice that is more helpful than it seems. |
| 2016-03-01 7:35 PM in reply to: cdban66 |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Closed Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by Jet Black Originally posted by cdban66 No, just BTA and behind the seat. Round bottles on the seat or down tube are very "un-aero". I've got a torhans vr on the seat tube that I use for my spare tube, tools, etc. (not my bike) Sean, do you still have a seat tube bottle holder as well? My original thought holds. With the old bottle, refill before hitting aid station. dump bottle in aid station, grab new and put it behind seat. It makes drinking easier with the straw. Your new bottle seems to make drinking a bit more of a challenge(for me anyway), but the time loss seems negligible when compared to the comfort of the computer viewing. I think there in lies one of the biggest assets that most of us don't maximize. Comfort. Practice the bottle swapping/drinking/etc. Practice all the little stuff and get comfortable with it and you will shave time off. Someone here has a signature line that reads "slow is smooth, smooth is fast". I believe that is advice that is more helpful than it seems. Think the line is a quote from Endurance Nation. Anyway, if I was going longer again, would think like what Chris is saying. Just get your stuff at the aid station. Refill outside of that. It's really quick and people will be all over the place. Your swim should likely put you more towards the front than average, but there will still be a lot of people around. And since it's IM expect them to be even dumber than usual. I didn't have to refill for HIMs either, but had this in mind. |
| 2016-03-02 7:10 AM in reply to: amd723 |
Champion 14677 Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Closed Originally posted by amd723 I had a great, if short, trip to western north carolina. Before race day I was able to get in a couple of nice hikes. It snowed on this Florida girl and we hiked through a lot of deep snow. Hiking through snow is hard. Who knew My race was fantastic. It was put on by the Cherokee runners. The race was point to point, started a bit out of the reservation and ended inside it. It was small -about 80 runners and had some of the best swag and prizes. It was also a nice, mainly gentle downhill -just 2 or 3 ups. And it was cold -in the 20s at the start. That is the coldest weather I've ever run in! Since the race was so small they had 10 year AGs and only gave out prizes to 1st in each plus the OA man and woman's. I was lucky enough to win my AG and received a hand-made (by one of the Cherokees) dream catcher. The finisher medals were also hand-made with the strap hand beaded with beads representing the trail of tears. Cool stuff! They also had a big raffle whose prizes included a hand woven blanket, REI gift certificates and other nice things. They club is trying to grow the race, so if you're looking for a low key, fun 10 miler next year, check it out! Damn, that is only an hour and a half from me. I never herd of it. I'll have to check it out. Though, I have sworn off running in the cold. Every time I do, I get sick. |
| 2016-03-02 8:20 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
| 812 Katy, Texas | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Closed Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by Jet Black Originally posted by cdban66 No, just BTA and behind the seat. Round bottles on the seat or down tube are very "un-aero". I've got a torhans vr on the seat tube that I use for my spare tube, tools, etc. (not my bike) Sean, do you still have a seat tube bottle holder as well? My original thought holds. With the old bottle, refill before hitting aid station. dump bottle in aid station, grab new and put it behind seat. It makes drinking easier with the straw. Your new bottle seems to make drinking a bit more of a challenge(for me anyway), but the time loss seems negligible when compared to the comfort of the computer viewing. I think there in lies one of the biggest assets that most of us don't maximize. Comfort. Practice the bottle swapping/drinking/etc. Practice all the little stuff and get comfortable with it and you will shave time off. Someone here has a signature line that reads "slow is smooth, smooth is fast". I believe that is advice that is more helpful than it seems. Think the line is a quote from Endurance Nation. Anyway, if I was going longer again, would think like what Chris is saying. Just get your stuff at the aid station. Refill outside of that. It's really quick and people will be all over the place. Your swim should likely put you more towards the front than average, but there will still be a lot of people around. And since it's IM expect them to be even dumber than usual. I didn't have to refill for HIMs either, but had this in mind. I don't plan to touch the bottle in the back unless something goes wrong like dropping a bottle or missing an aid station. To get the bottle back there I definitely have to sit up, and am trying to avoid sitting up at all during the race. Just want it there for contingency. There is an aid station every 10 miles, and like you mentioned Ben, the aid stations shouldn't be too packed when I'm going through. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt3Bq3UYVlo |
| 2016-03-02 8:55 AM in reply to: johnthecat |
Veteran 1900 Southampton, Ontario | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Closed Originally posted by johnthecat (I do think that the trip to the allergist and me getting on an inhaler did make a bit of a difference). Allergy induced asthma? I have that and find that exercise certainly helps but if you put me near a dog, cat or anything with fur I quickly progress to the breathing of an 80 year old life long smoker. Be easy when adding in speed session. |
| 2016-03-02 9:17 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
Master 4119 Toronto Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Closed Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by Jet Black Originally posted by cdban66 No, just BTA and behind the seat. Round bottles on the seat or down tube are very "un-aero". I've got a torhans vr on the seat tube that I use for my spare tube, tools, etc. (not my bike) Sean, do you still have a seat tube bottle holder as well? My original thought holds. With the old bottle, refill before hitting aid station. dump bottle in aid station, grab new and put it behind seat. It makes drinking easier with the straw. Your new bottle seems to make drinking a bit more of a challenge(for me anyway), but the time loss seems negligible when compared to the comfort of the computer viewing. I think there in lies one of the biggest assets that most of us don't maximize. Comfort. Practice the bottle swapping/drinking/etc. Practice all the little stuff and get comfortable with it and you will shave time off. Someone here has a signature line that reads "slow is smooth, smooth is fast". I believe that is advice that is more helpful than it seems. Think the line is a quote from Endurance Nation. Anyway, if I was going longer again, would think like what Chris is saying. Just get your stuff at the aid station. Refill outside of that. It's really quick and people will be all over the place. Your swim should likely put you more towards the front than average, but there will still be a lot of people around. And since it's IM expect them to be even dumber than usual. I didn't have to refill for HIMs either, but had this in mind. Yes, to all of that - there are those unplanned things like a strange configurations of an aid station. There was one during my IM where I wanted to get water both times I passed and it was kind of curved and i couldn't quite manage it. Just practice getting that back bottle as a back-up plan. things happen and if you have practiced it, you'll be able to manage it on race day. Same with refilling. |
| 2016-03-02 9:18 AM in reply to: johnthecat |
Master 4119 Toronto Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Closed Originally posted by johnthecat Proof of life post. Work starting to settle down. Still haven't been able to train as much as I would like to, but still getting a fair amount in. Trips to the pool unfortunately are far in between, once it gets a little warmer it will get easier though. Well actually outside temperatures are already warm enough to go swimming, it's the pool and lake temperatures that aren't quite there yet. 79 F today here, definitely starting to warm up. I was looking at my training history and realized that exactly a year ago I started my training (post GBS that is). At that point in time I was able to run about 1/4 mile without having to take a walk break and couldn't do more than 100 yards continuous swimming without rest. I have definitely improved quite a bit on that. Distances are not the issue anymore, I just need to pick up some speed now. I was able to do my long run last weekend with a sub 11:00 pace which is the first time I was able to comfortably do that without pushing my heart rate into dangerous zones. (I do think that the trip to the allergist and me getting on an inhaler did make a bit of a difference). Happy training anniversary!
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| 2016-03-02 9:45 AM in reply to: 0 |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Closed Originally posted by Jet Black Originally posted by brigby1 I don't plan to touch the bottle in the back unless something goes wrong like dropping a bottle or missing an aid station. To get the bottle back there I definitely have to sit up, and am trying to avoid sitting up at all during the race. Just want it there for contingency. There is an aid station every 10 miles, and like you mentioned Ben, the aid stations shouldn't be too packed when I'm going through. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt3Bq3UYVloOriginally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by Jet Black Originally posted by cdban66 No, just BTA and behind the seat. Round bottles on the seat or down tube are very "un-aero". I've got a torhans vr on the seat tube that I use for my spare tube, tools, etc. (not my bike) Sean, do you still have a seat tube bottle holder as well? My original thought holds. With the old bottle, refill before hitting aid station. dump bottle in aid station, grab new and put it behind seat. It makes drinking easier with the straw. Your new bottle seems to make drinking a bit more of a challenge(for me anyway), but the time loss seems negligible when compared to the comfort of the computer viewing. I think there in lies one of the biggest assets that most of us don't maximize. Comfort. Practice the bottle swapping/drinking/etc. Practice all the little stuff and get comfortable with it and you will shave time off. Someone here has a signature line that reads "slow is smooth, smooth is fast". I believe that is advice that is more helpful than it seems. Think the line is a quote from Endurance Nation. Anyway, if I was going longer again, would think like what Chris is saying. Just get your stuff at the aid station. Refill outside of that. It's really quick and people will be all over the place. Your swim should likely put you more towards the front than average, but there will still be a lot of people around. And since it's IM expect them to be even dumber than usual. I didn't have to refill for HIMs either, but had this in mind. Yeah, I'm able to drink like in the video. At least without a lot of others around and the bottle isn't near empty. Don't know how much I'd trust an IM crowd though. At least in the earlier goings when there are more people around. Especially more strong headed and self righteous types. I'd still probably have an extra cage on there for some flexibility. Maybe not use it *all* the time. See how things go. There is the chance of the race running out. That's happened at the one I did, and don't think it was too long after I went through. Could end up dropping a bottle. You get tired, someone swerves and startles you. The idiot in front tries and fails to grab every bottle just in front of you. Saw that happen at the same race as well. After checking on the dozens of things you can do to make yourself faster, take a look at the risk of them and then maybe see how much you really lose by dialing back on just a few of them. It's building in a little safety towards the other side of how much we might lose vs the potential gains. I'd go between at least having another cage on, either in the back (for the double) or on the frame. Depends on how easy things are to reach and confidence they won't bounce out. Would have to start going long again to see what felt best. If I started with a frame bottle, would have a cheap one to throw away after it emptied. IM age groupers have a huge draft early on (unless they're really one of the super swimmers) and might not want to try refilling at the first stop. Or even the second. Edited by brigby1 2016-03-02 9:46 AM |
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