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 2017-05-22 8:06 AM in reply to: JBacarella |
Master  7712     Orlando |  Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition - ClosedOriginally posted by JBacarella Originally posted by brigby1 It appear height isn't the issue with the rear cages. I have to tip my bike over at an extreme angle to get my leg over the cages too. I do use Camelbak water bottles with the loops around the top. I am able to control them a little better, because I'm grabbing them by the loop instead of the bottle. Otherwise, I am the guy who always drops his bottle in traffic (I haven't hurt anyone yet, to my knowledge). Originally posted by fortissimo Originally posted by amd723 I have the same problem getting my leg over the water bottle in the back. I have a double XLab Gorilla cage and nothing falls out of it! I use it for my Mezzo Cage Pod that hold my tubes, CO2, and levers. The other cage sits empty for 70.3 races. I have trouble gripping water bottles and always drop them. There for a get laughed at a lot with my Speedfil Hydration System mounted to my frame and my XLab torpedo mounted between my aerobars. Yes that means two straws but I don't care. I hold them together with a hair tie so they're no problem. We moved my seat forward so not the straws hit me in the nose when I'm in aero. It's a great reminder to drink more! Originally posted by jmkizer Talk to me about budget-friendly rear-mounted hydration. I'm looking to add a bottle behind the saddle but don't want to break the bank doing so (or lose the bottle on the course). Thanks! i have 2 cages mounted off the back, but I don't really like them too much as being short it can be hard to get my legs over!! I do have the cages tilted to make it easier. My issue is I'd like between the aero bars hydration, but my bars are so narrow that the Profile design system didn't work! I've also tried a DIY system without luck. So, I'm still on the hunt! I'm not short and it was a little difficult to get on the bike with the double for me too. Saddle height will scale up or down with the individual. Wish I had a suggestion, but it's been a few years since I've looked at something. Even since having the Dash saddle with the built in mount. I only used it for repairs storage. It was simple, it worked better than others, but was the opposite of budget friendly! Ha! So, it's not just a short person thing - good to know!! |
| 2017-05-22 8:06 AM in reply to: Blanda |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition - Closed Originally posted by Blanda Well, I won the MTB national champs for the women. I hadn't planned on racing, but the course gave me no other option. You're pretty much flying down and climbing up. Not much in between. I detest walking my bike uphill so I my goal was to climb until started tipping over or I lost traction. Was able to stay on my bike for most of climbs. Pretty satisfying. My fitness is much improved and I had been mountain biking quite a bit for race I did a couple weeks ago. My handling skills have been sharpened. Great race even though I hadn't really wanted to do it. I had even deleted the email with all the reg info. Took a couple training partners to talk me into it. Hope your weekend is going well and training has been solid! Congratulations! And a belated welcome to the Pod! |
| 2017-05-22 8:07 AM in reply to: JBacarella |
Master 8249  Eugene, Oregon Bronze member | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition - Closed I also have a Profile Design double rear mount (need all the water I can carry in the tropics--I also have a frame bottle and an aerobottle!) and it can be a challenge to get my leg over when dismounting. Had a nervous moment at Calgary 70.3 last year--my legs were really trashed by the end of a very hilly bike leg and thought I might get caught on the bottles and go down with the bike, but I didn't. And I'm not short, at least by female standards--almost 5'8", with pretty long legs for my height. I've noticed bottles are much less likely to eject from the rear if they are the slightly shorter, wider 20 oz size rather than the taller, skinnier 24 oz ones (like the big Polar bottles). Pretty much every ejection situation I've had has been with the big bottles or, in one case, a smaller 16 oz run bottle that I had grabbed by mistake. Plus the shorter bottles are just a tiny bit easier to clear on dismount than the tall ones. I have dropped my bottle in a race once--riding my American road bike that I don't spend too much time on and tried to put it in the place where I put it on the Vietnamese road bike. Only there isn' a cage there on the American bike. Oops. Thank goodness it was a sprint with only about five miles left to ride. Dumbest thing I have ever done is to drop a bottle ON THE TRAINER when I went to insert it in the rear cage on my tri bike, and it got stuck between the tire and the trainer resistance thingy and jammed everything and cracked the bottle. That takes talent. |
| 2017-05-22 12:41 PM in reply to: amd723 |
| Alpharetta, Georgia Bronze member | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition - Closed Proof of life post Exciting times in my life! I accepted a promotion with my company's corporate headquarters in Atlanta, so will be moving across the country! Really excited about moving to a big city and the new job! I sold my house while I was in Europe (only listed for three days!) and crossing my fingers everything goes smoothly there. On a bit of a training hiatus until life settles down, but looking forward to new races in the south. |
| 2017-05-22 1:02 PM in reply to: Blanda |
| Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition - Closed Originally posted by Blanda Well, I won the MTB national champs for the women. I hadn't planned on racing, but the course gave me no other option. You're pretty much flying down and climbing up. Not much in between. I detest walking my bike uphill so I my goal was to climb until started tipping over or I lost traction. Was able to stay on my bike for most of climbs. Pretty satisfying. My fitness is much improved and I had been mountain biking quite a bit for race I did a couple weeks ago. My handling skills have been sharpened. Great race even though I hadn't really wanted to do it. I had even deleted the email with all the reg info. Took a couple training partners to talk me into it. Hope your weekend is going well and training has been solid! Wow, that's great, congratulations! No ouchies along the way either, I hope! |
| 2017-05-22 4:48 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Regular 980 Caerphilly, Wales, uk. | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition - Closed Originally posted by jmkizer Question for the group: Last fall I decided to get a smart trainer *or* power. I went with power. My "dumb" trainer was acting up last night. Kevin has a Wahoo Kickr that he is willing to share but I think that you need to calibrate these trainers to each user? With a smart trainer does it matter as much how "tight" you set the resistance on the wheel when you mount your bike? Since the Kickr does power and the PowerTap does power, would I need to get them in sync or what? ETA: Would calibration just be a spin down between riders? TL;DR - Can you/should you calibrate Wahoo Kickr Snap between two riders? What smart trainer do you have and would you recommend it?
Okay, I'm making a few assumptions here, but: I'm guessing you are getting your work outs that you intend to do from your coach. They are prescribing your workouts based on your FTP gained/measured from your power meter readings. When you then perform these work outs on the Kickr, the Kickr is using it's internal power meter to set the resistance of the trainer. The problem that you will get is the difference between the two power meters. You haven't said if what program you are using to control the Kickr, or even if you are using a program. TrainerRoad has the ability to Powermatch the Kickr to your external power meter. This takes your power reading from your power meter and adjusts the resistance of the trainer from that. This effectively calibrates the Kickr to your power meter. I believe Wahoo's own App has this ability also, But I'm not too sure how to activate it.
As for tightening the wheel against the trainer the same each time. This is more important when just using the Kickr as your primary power meter. IE you don't have another power meter. This tries to minimize the difference in set ups between trainer rides. Essentially each time you take off the bike from the trainer and then put it back on, it's like starting again with a completely different power meter. Unless you can get the wheel resistance the same again. Which is where the Same tyre pressure/wheel resistance thing comes from. Spin down calibration on the trainer is to adjust for the difference in readings caused by temperature fluctuations. When you start your ride, the temperature is cooler and the trainer is cooler. There may be extra resistance for XX Watts, so you perform a spin down to calibrate the resistance of the trainer to the temperature difference. You should also perform another spin down mid ride to re-calibrate again when temperature increases.
If your coach is prescribing your workouts based on your power meter, then you have options: 1. Use some kind of power match like I've mentioned above. 2. As Ben said, you could use your Garmin to record your power meter, a phone to control the Kickr power meter and try to adjust the Kickr resistance until you reach the desired/prescribed power on your Garmin unit from your power meter. i.e Coach says 30 min at 200 Watt. Use Wahoo App to increase Watts on the Kickr to, {pick a number, whatever the difference in power is between the two devices} 200 +-XX Watts, even though you Garmin is reading 200W. 3. You perform a separate FTP test using the power readings from your Kickr and your coach prescribes your indoor work out using this FTP. You then use the readings from you Kickr and not your power meter when completing indoor rides. Ideally, option 1 is best. Two is next, and the third option last.
Hope that helps. I know, clear as mud right?
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| 2017-05-22 4:50 PM in reply to: Richardsdrr |
Regular 980 Caerphilly, Wales, uk. | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition - Closed Originally posted by Richardsdrr Originally posted by jmkizer Question for the group: Last fall I decided to get a smart trainer *or* power. I went with power. My "dumb" trainer was acting up last night. Kevin has a Wahoo Kickr that he is willing to share but I think that you need to calibrate these trainers to each user? With a smart trainer does it matter as much how "tight" you set the resistance on the wheel when you mount your bike? Since the Kickr does power and the PowerTap does power, would I need to get them in sync or what? ETA: Would calibration just be a spin down between riders? TL;DR - Can you/should you calibrate Wahoo Kickr Snap between two riders? What smart trainer do you have and would you recommend it?
Okay, I'm making a few assumptions here, but: I'm guessing you are getting your work outs that you intend to do from your coach. They are prescribing your workouts based on your FTP gained/measured from your power meter readings. When you then perform these work outs on the Kickr, the Kickr is using it's internal power meter to set the resistance of the trainer. The problem that you will get is the difference between the two power meters. You haven't said if what program you are using to control the Kickr, or even if you are using a program. TrainerRoad has the ability to Powermatch the Kickr to your external power meter. This takes your power reading from your power meter and adjusts the resistance of the trainer from that. This effectively calibrates the Kickr to your power meter. I believe Wahoo's own App has this ability also, But I'm not too sure how to activate it.
As for tightening the wheel against the trainer the same each time. This is more important when just using the Kickr as your primary power meter. IE you don't have another power meter. This tries to minimize the difference in set ups between trainer rides. Essentially each time you take off the bike from the trainer and then put it back on, it's like starting again with a completely different power meter. Unless you can get the wheel resistance the same again. Which is where the Same tyre pressure/wheel resistance thing comes from. Spin down calibration on the trainer is to adjust for the difference in readings caused by temperature fluctuations. When you start your ride, the temperature is cooler and the trainer is cooler. There may be extra resistance for XX Watts, so you perform a spin down to calibrate the resistance of the trainer to the temperature difference. You should also perform another spin down mid ride to re-calibrate again when temperature increases.
If your coach is prescribing your workouts based on your power meter, then you have options: 1. Use some kind of power match like I've mentioned above. 2. As Ben said, you could use your Garmin to record your power meter, a phone to control the Kickr power meter and try to adjust the Kickr resistance until you reach the desired/prescribed power on your Garmin unit from your power meter. i.e Coach says 30 min at 200 Watt. Use Wahoo App to increase Watts on the Kickr to, {pick a number, whatever the difference in power is between the two devices} 200 +-XX Watts, even though you Garmin is reading 200W. 3. You perform a separate FTP test using the power readings from your Kickr and your coach prescribes your indoor work out using this FTP. You then use the readings from you Kickr and not your power meter when completing indoor rides. Ideally, option 1 is best. Two is next, and the third option last.
Hope that helps. I know, clear as mud right?
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| 2017-05-22 5:21 PM in reply to: amd723 |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition - Closed Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by JBacarella Originally posted by brigby1 It appear height isn't the issue with the rear cages. I have to tip my bike over at an extreme angle to get my leg over the cages too. I do use Camelbak water bottles with the loops around the top. I am able to control them a little better, because I'm grabbing them by the loop instead of the bottle. Otherwise, I am the guy who always drops his bottle in traffic (I haven't hurt anyone yet, to my knowledge). Originally posted by fortissimo Originally posted by amd723 I have the same problem getting my leg over the water bottle in the back. I have a double XLab Gorilla cage and nothing falls out of it! I use it for my Mezzo Cage Pod that hold my tubes, CO2, and levers. The other cage sits empty for 70.3 races. I have trouble gripping water bottles and always drop them. There for a get laughed at a lot with my Speedfil Hydration System mounted to my frame and my XLab torpedo mounted between my aerobars. Yes that means two straws but I don't care. I hold them together with a hair tie so they're no problem. We moved my seat forward so not the straws hit me in the nose when I'm in aero. It's a great reminder to drink more! Originally posted by jmkizer Talk to me about budget-friendly rear-mounted hydration. I'm looking to add a bottle behind the saddle but don't want to break the bank doing so (or lose the bottle on the course). Thanks! i have 2 cages mounted off the back, but I don't really like them too much as being short it can be hard to get my legs over!! I do have the cages tilted to make it easier. My issue is I'd like between the aero bars hydration, but my bars are so narrow that the Profile design system didn't work! I've also tried a DIY system without luck. So, I'm still on the hunt! I'm not short and it was a little difficult to get on the bike with the double for me too. Saddle height will scale up or down with the individual. Wish I had a suggestion, but it's been a few years since I've looked at something. Even since having the Dash saddle with the built in mount. I only used it for repairs storage. It was simple, it worked better than others, but was the opposite of budget friendly! Ha! So, it's not just a short person thing - good to know!! That's right you are just one of the gang. haha |
| 2017-05-22 8:31 PM in reply to: JBacarella |
Veteran 2441 Western Australia | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition - Closed Proof of life here too. Sorry I missed wishing you well with your races last week. I got home from a week away at a conference and discovered that our internet wasn't working, got it sorted now though. Well done Blanda for your win I am sure that it was very well earned. |
| 2017-05-23 7:57 AM in reply to: lisac957 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition - Closed Originally posted by lisac957 Proof of life post Exciting times in my life! I accepted a promotion with my company's corporate headquarters in Atlanta, so will be moving across the country! Really excited about moving to a big city and the new job! I sold my house while I was in Europe (only listed for three days!) and crossing my fingers everything goes smoothly there. On a bit of a training hiatus until life settles down, but looking forward to new races in the south. Congratulations! |
| 2017-05-23 8:00 AM in reply to: Richardsdrr |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition - Closed Originally posted by Richardsdrr Originally posted by jmkizer Question for the group: Last fall I decided to get a smart trainer *or* power. I went with power. My "dumb" trainer was acting up last night. Kevin has a Wahoo Kickr that he is willing to share but I think that you need to calibrate these trainers to each user? With a smart trainer does it matter as much how "tight" you set the resistance on the wheel when you mount your bike? Since the Kickr does power and the PowerTap does power, would I need to get them in sync or what? ETA: Would calibration just be a spin down between riders? TL;DR - Can you/should you calibrate Wahoo Kickr Snap between two riders? What smart trainer do you have and would you recommend it?
Okay, I'm making a few assumptions here, but: I'm guessing you are getting your work outs that you intend to do from your coach. They are prescribing your workouts based on your FTP gained/measured from your power meter readings. When you then perform these work outs on the Kickr, the Kickr is using it's internal power meter to set the resistance of the trainer. The problem that you will get is the difference between the two power meters. You haven't said if what program you are using to control the Kickr, or even if you are using a program. TrainerRoad has the ability to Powermatch the Kickr to your external power meter. This takes your power reading from your power meter and adjusts the resistance of the trainer from that. This effectively calibrates the Kickr to your power meter. I believe Wahoo's own App has this ability also, But I'm not too sure how to activate it.
As for tightening the wheel against the trainer the same each time. This is more important when just using the Kickr as your primary power meter. IE you don't have another power meter. This tries to minimize the difference in set ups between trainer rides. Essentially each time you take off the bike from the trainer and then put it back on, it's like starting again with a completely different power meter. Unless you can get the wheel resistance the same again. Which is where the Same tyre pressure/wheel resistance thing comes from. Spin down calibration on the trainer is to adjust for the difference in readings caused by temperature fluctuations. When you start your ride, the temperature is cooler and the trainer is cooler. There may be extra resistance for XX Watts, so you perform a spin down to calibrate the resistance of the trainer to the temperature difference. You should also perform another spin down mid ride to re-calibrate again when temperature increases.
If your coach is prescribing your workouts based on your power meter, then you have options: 1. Use some kind of power match like I've mentioned above. 2. As Ben said, you could use your Garmin to record your power meter, a phone to control the Kickr power meter and try to adjust the Kickr resistance until you reach the desired/prescribed power on your Garmin unit from your power meter. i.e Coach says 30 min at 200 Watt. Use Wahoo App to increase Watts on the Kickr to, {pick a number, whatever the difference in power is between the two devices} 200 +-XX Watts, even though you Garmin is reading 200W. 3. You perform a separate FTP test using the power readings from your Kickr and your coach prescribes your indoor work out using this FTP. You then use the readings from you Kickr and not your power meter when completing indoor rides. Ideally, option 1 is best. Two is next, and the third option last.
Hope that helps. I know, clear as mud right?
Yes, clear as mud. The other issue is that Kevin may use the trainer in the morning one day and then I may use the trainer after work the next day. Is there anything special that needs to be done when switching riders? |
| 2017-05-23 9:20 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition - Closed Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by lisac957 Proof of life post Exciting times in my life! I accepted a promotion with my company's corporate headquarters in Atlanta, so will be moving across the country! Really excited about moving to a big city and the new job! I sold my house while I was in Europe (only listed for three days!) and crossing my fingers everything goes smoothly there. On a bit of a training hiatus until life settles down, but looking forward to new races in the south. Congratulations! yes, congrats! |
| 2017-05-23 1:54 PM in reply to: Blanda |
| 74 Smithtown, New York | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition - Closed So I started volunteering over at the local nature center. It's such a beautiful place off the main road and it's an oasis of peace in such an urban area. There is this nice large gravel road leading to the main building. I want to bike to the center every day I go but I have a cannondale synapse road bike. I know that the current tires would just puncture pretty quick. I'm wondering if I put cyclo wheels on my bike it'll handle on the gravel well |
| 2017-05-23 3:16 PM in reply to: Rileyvb91 |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition - Closed Originally posted by Rileyvb91 So I started volunteering over at the local nature center. It's such a beautiful place off the main road and it's an oasis of peace in such an urban area. There is this nice large gravel road leading to the main building. I want to bike to the center every day I go but I have a cannondale synapse road bike. I know that the current tires would just puncture pretty quick. I'm wondering if I put cyclo wheels on my bike it'll handle on the gravel well What are you using now? Some of the more puncture resistant tires often recommended on site can do fine in some gravel. So you may not not need a new set of wheels, or maybe even tires. More size does help in a couple ways, so that the tires don't slip down in between the rocks so much (ground seems to grab & pull the wheel all over) and in being able to lower pressure to absorb better. The knobs of a CX tire might help help with grip too, but might not be needed either. My brother has gone up to around century distance rides on mostly small gravel bike paths using these in I think a size 32. Gravel isn't really my best area, so if you know what you have some of the others could chime in with recommendations too. |
| 2017-05-23 4:35 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Regular 980 Caerphilly, Wales, uk. | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition - Closed Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by Richardsdrr Originally posted by jmkizer Question for the group: Last fall I decided to get a smart trainer *or* power. I went with power. My "dumb" trainer was acting up last night. Kevin has a Wahoo Kickr that he is willing to share but I think that you need to calibrate these trainers to each user? With a smart trainer does it matter as much how "tight" you set the resistance on the wheel when you mount your bike? Since the Kickr does power and the PowerTap does power, would I need to get them in sync or what? ETA: Would calibration just be a spin down between riders? TL;DR - Can you/should you calibrate Wahoo Kickr Snap between two riders? What smart trainer do you have and would you recommend it?
Okay, I'm making a few assumptions here, but: I'm guessing you are getting your work outs that you intend to do from your coach. They are prescribing your workouts based on your FTP gained/measured from your power meter readings. When you then perform these work outs on the Kickr, the Kickr is using it's internal power meter to set the resistance of the trainer. The problem that you will get is the difference between the two power meters. You haven't said if what program you are using to control the Kickr, or even if you are using a program. TrainerRoad has the ability to Powermatch the Kickr to your external power meter. This takes your power reading from your power meter and adjusts the resistance of the trainer from that. This effectively calibrates the Kickr to your power meter. I believe Wahoo's own App has this ability also, But I'm not too sure how to activate it.
As for tightening the wheel against the trainer the same each time. This is more important when just using the Kickr as your primary power meter. IE you don't have another power meter. This tries to minimize the difference in set ups between trainer rides. Essentially each time you take off the bike from the trainer and then put it back on, it's like starting again with a completely different power meter. Unless you can get the wheel resistance the same again. Which is where the Same tyre pressure/wheel resistance thing comes from. Spin down calibration on the trainer is to adjust for the difference in readings caused by temperature fluctuations. When you start your ride, the temperature is cooler and the trainer is cooler. There may be extra resistance for XX Watts, so you perform a spin down to calibrate the resistance of the trainer to the temperature difference. You should also perform another spin down mid ride to re-calibrate again when temperature increases.
If your coach is prescribing your workouts based on your power meter, then you have options: 1. Use some kind of power match like I've mentioned above. 2. As Ben said, you could use your Garmin to record your power meter, a phone to control the Kickr power meter and try to adjust the Kickr resistance until you reach the desired/prescribed power on your Garmin unit from your power meter. i.e Coach says 30 min at 200 Watt. Use Wahoo App to increase Watts on the Kickr to, {pick a number, whatever the difference in power is between the two devices} 200 +-XX Watts, even though you Garmin is reading 200W. 3. You perform a separate FTP test using the power readings from your Kickr and your coach prescribes your indoor work out using this FTP. You then use the readings from you Kickr and not your power meter when completing indoor rides. Ideally, option 1 is best. Two is next, and the third option last.
Hope that helps. I know, clear as mud right?
Yes, clear as mud. The other issue is that Kevin may use the trainer in the morning one day and then I may use the trainer after work the next day. Is there anything special that needs to be done when switching riders?
As with any trainer setup, make sure the variables remain the same as much as possible. This means same tyre, same tyre pressure, same number of turns fixing the bike to the trainer. When Kevin attaches his bike he should check tyre pressure, attach bike, screw down [or whichever method your trainer uses] the same amount of turns on the trainer to attach bike. Start a short warm up spin and incorporate a spin down calibration. Begin workout and complete another spin down part way through the workout when things are warmed up. You should do the same, but, if you are "power matching" your power meter to the Kickr, you need to zero calibrate your power meter too. That could be a number of ways, depending on which power meter you have. i.e. ensure the left crank is at the 6 o'clock position and you have your feet of the pedals when performing the zero cal', or it may just need you to back pedal for a few revolutions to zero cal'. It depends on which power meter you have. |
| 2017-05-23 4:38 PM in reply to: amd723 |
| 1731 Denver, Colorado | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition - Closed Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by lisac957 Proof of life post Exciting times in my life! I accepted a promotion with my company's corporate headquarters in Atlanta, so will be moving across the country! Really excited about moving to a big city and the new job! I sold my house while I was in Europe (only listed for three days!) and crossing my fingers everything goes smoothly there. On a bit of a training hiatus until life settles down, but looking forward to new races in the south. Congratulations! yes, congrats! That's wonderful! Congratulations! I am very happy for you  Wishing you all the best with the new chapter! |
| 2017-05-23 4:41 PM in reply to: marysia83 |
| 1731 Denver, Colorado | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition - Closed And proof of life from me.... I hope everyone is doing great, I will try to keep up with the discussion and visit your logs I have finally bought clipless pedals for the biking shoes and had my first epic fall (it looked like Superman flying with a bike attached to his body...). But I'm getting there... Have a great week everyone! |
| 2017-05-23 11:47 PM in reply to: Blanda |
Master 2177 | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition - Closed Thank you, Jayne, Ann-Marie, Melanie and Stacey! Congratulations on the promotion, Lisa! I'm pretty sore on my left side since the race. My usual Tuesday morning run was turned into a recovery walk. I feel like I got into a fight and only used my left side, haha! My ankle especially seems to have taken a beating. Like I twisted it, but I don't remember twisting it. Oh well. Just taking it easy this week. I was supposed to start swimming yesterday. I didn't swim. I'm so anti-swimming at the moment. After my first and only HIM I was anti-running for about 6 months. Just seeing people run made me tired and sad about it. I've got that Olympic in July. Grrr. Hope your weeks are off to a good start! |
| 2017-05-24 9:56 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
| 74 Smithtown, New York | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition - Closed Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by Rileyvb91 So I started volunteering over at the local nature center. It's such a beautiful place off the main road and it's an oasis of peace in such an urban area. There is this nice large gravel road leading to the main building. I want to bike to the center every day I go but I have a cannondale synapse road bike. I know that the current tires would just puncture pretty quick. I'm wondering if I put cyclo wheels on my bike it'll handle on the gravel well What are you using now? Some of the more puncture resistant tires often recommended on site can do fine in some gravel. So you may not not need a new set of wheels, or maybe even tires. More size does help in a couple ways, so that the tires don't slip down in between the rocks so much (ground seems to grab & pull the wheel all over) and in being able to lower pressure to absorb better. The knobs of a CX tire might help help with grip too, but might not be needed either. My brother has gone up to around century distance rides on mostly small gravel bike paths using these in I think a size 32. Gravel isn't really my best area, so if you know what you have some of the others could chime in with recommendations too. It has stock everything and I just think the large gravel is welcoming a nice little puncture on those tires. The gravel is basically just rocks. I don't want to risk a puncture on the tires |
| 2017-05-24 10:46 AM in reply to: marysia83 |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition - Closed POL from me as well. I have been following along on emails and keeping up, but very little actual training in my world at the moment. So, here goes: Lisa - Congrats and good luck with the move and the new job. I believe it is something that you have been working on for a while. Blanda - I hope your body responds and returns to normal. Now get in the pool! Stacey - I hope you and the "Turtles" are keeping up with all the training for Goofy. Or Dopey. Or whichever one of those you have on tap! Maria - I now have a picture of Superman flying with a bike attached to his feet. Thanks Janyne - I have no trainer input, as you well know. But I do hope that Zoe is doing well and that Kevin and you have a good trainer use schedule worked out. Hands - I have no input on the rear bottle cages other than to say I have heard good things about Gorilla cages not being bottle launchers. Riley - If the road is anything like most gravel roads, my bet is that simple cyclo tires will do the job wonderfully, if that is even necessary. I ride in a backwoods area that includes some pretty rough singletrack and gravel roads and I have seen the cyclocross guys whip through both. If their tires can take that kind of abuse, you should have no problem on gravel roads with something like that. It might be fine on Gator Skins or something like that, but you may want more traction which a wider, more "knobby", cyclocross tire would have. Yanti - It was sure good to see you pop in. I hope all is well with you and all that is going on. Karen - How much longer until you return stateside? Hello to everyone else that I did not single out. I hope that life has been kind and you have all been well.
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| 2017-05-24 1:17 PM in reply to: Blanda |
| 1731 Denver, Colorado | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition - Closed Originally posted by Blanda Thank you, Jayne, Ann-Marie, Melanie and Stacey! Congratulations on the promotion, Lisa! I'm pretty sore on my left side since the race. My usual Tuesday morning run was turned into a recovery walk. I feel like I got into a fight and only used my left side, haha! My ankle especially seems to have taken a beating. Like I twisted it, but I don't remember twisting it. Oh well. Just taking it easy this week. I was supposed to start swimming yesterday. I didn't swim. I'm so anti-swimming at the moment. After my first and only HIM I was anti-running for about 6 months. Just seeing people run made me tired and sad about it. I've got that Olympic in July. Grrr. Hope your weeks are off to a good start! Sorry about the ankle... I hope you feel better! |
| 2017-05-24 7:14 PM in reply to: 0 |
Veteran 1900 Southampton, Ontario | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition - Closed Originally posted by Rileyvb91 Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by Rileyvb91 So I started volunteering over at the local nature center. It's such a beautiful place off the main road and it's an oasis of peace in such an urban area. There is this nice large gravel road leading to the main building. I want to bike to the center every day I go but I have a cannondale synapse road bike. I know that the current tires would just puncture pretty quick. I'm wondering if I put cyclo wheels on my bike it'll handle on the gravel well What are you using now? Some of the more puncture resistant tires often recommended on site can do fine in some gravel. So you may not not need a new set of wheels, or maybe even tires. More size does help in a couple ways, so that the tires don't slip down in between the rocks so much (ground seems to grab & pull the wheel all over) and in being able to lower pressure to absorb better. The knobs of a CX tire might help help with grip too, but might not be needed either. My brother has gone up to around century distance rides on mostly small gravel bike paths using these in I think a size 32. Gravel isn't really my best area, so if you know what you have some of the others could chime in with recommendations too. It has stock everything and I just think the large gravel is welcoming a nice little puncture on those tires. The gravel is basically just rocks. I don't want to risk a puncture on the tires If gravel isnt your focus and you will mostly be riding on the road I would go with big road tires (28 or 32mm what ever will fit) or something with a minimal file tread. I have my "road tires" Zaffiro Pro 32's that see plenty of gravel and a set of Schwalbe CX comps. Both are dirt cheap and I have yet to have a flat on either set. One thing to keep in mind is that you will need larger tubes as you probably have tubes meant for a 22mm to 25mm tire. You can use the existing tubes but they will basically be stretched out and more likely to flat. Edited by DaveL 2017-05-25 5:46 AM |
| 2017-05-25 1:52 AM in reply to: cdban66 |
Veteran 2441 Western Australia | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition - Closed Originally posted by cdban66 mmm well April and May haven't been the most wonderful of training months for me consistency wise. I've had some issues with my back and hips but I think that they are sorted now. Stacey - I hope you and the "Turtles" are keeping up with all the training for Goofy. Or Dopey. Or whichever one of those you have on tap!
We have a new "Turtle Challenge" underway too which is helping. For this one if you miss a day then you have to pay the others $50 each so that means $150 for a missed day, we are allowed to rearrange the week and injury days are acceptable if you can convince everyone that they are justified. It is proving to be decent motivation. Our first HM for the year is this weekend with another one next weekend. These are more like supported training runs than races, its a good way to get the long runs done and get some bling too. In 5.5 weeks we are all tackling our first marathon and starting to get somewhat nervous about it. We have one more marathon at the end of August and then the count down is on to Dopey 222 days to go - CR@P! |
| 2017-05-25 2:46 AM in reply to: cdban66 |
| 143 | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition - Closed Its now four weeks since I broke my collarbone and its starting to get better. One of my target races this year was a half marathon that is taking place on Sunday. In the back of my head I thought I would still be able to do it but sense was saying no. However as I have lived and worked in Manchester for the last 18 years the events that happened on Monday has made me change my mind. I may run it but worst case I will walk as I am not going to let terrorist arseholes stop people going about their normal life and achieving their dreams. I imagine it will be an emotional day but I will there at the start line with 10K other people running the Manchester 1/2 Marathon and will then cheer on the 30K others running the 10K race afterwards. Life at times is too short and can be taken from us is in ways that are cowardly and do not make sense to the majority but one things is for sure they can not beat us or change the will of the majority to get along and stand united. |
| 2017-05-25 6:12 AM in reply to: StaceyK |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition - Closed Originally posted by StaceyK Originally posted by cdban66 mmm well April and May haven't been the most wonderful of training months for me consistency wise. I've had some issues with my back and hips but I think that they are sorted now. We have a new "Turtle Challenge" underway too which is helping. For this one if you miss a day then you have to pay the others $50 each so that means $150 for a missed day, we are allowed to rearrange the week and injury days are acceptable if you can convince everyone that they are justified. It is proving to be decent motivation. Our first HM for the year is this weekend with another one next weekend. These are more like supported training runs than races, its a good way to get the long runs done and get some bling too. In 5.5 weeks we are all tackling our first marathon and starting to get somewhat nervous about it. We have one more marathon at the end of August and then the count down is on to Dopey 222 days to go - CR@P! Stacey - I hope you and the "Turtles" are keeping up with all the training for Goofy. Or Dopey. Or whichever one of those you have on tap!
wow, 150$ for a missed day! that is motivation!! Have fun this weekend (and next)! |
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