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2008-06-26 1:08 PM
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mr2tony - 2008-06-26 1:01 PM

``Do you like Huey Lewis and the News?

Their early work was a little too new wave for my tastes, but when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercial and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He's been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far much more bitter, cynical sense of humour.

In '87, Huey released this, Fore, their most accomplished album. I think their undisputed masterpiece is "Hip to be Square", a song so catchy, most people probably don't listen to the lyrics. But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of conformity, and the importance of trends, it's also a personal statement about the band itself.''

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwnsz0WqHp0


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2008-06-26 1:09 PM
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shrano - 2008-06-26 1:08 PM

mr2tony - 2008-06-26 1:01 PM

``Do you like Huey Lewis and the News?

Their early work was a little too new wave for my tastes, but when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercial and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He's been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far much more bitter, cynical sense of humour.

In '87, Huey released this, Fore, their most accomplished album. I think their undisputed masterpiece is "Hip to be Square", a song so catchy, most people probably don't listen to the lyrics. But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of conformity, and the importance of trends, it's also a personal statement about the band itself.''

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwnsz0WqHp0


this post is a joke, right?


Edit: I mean, you don't like Huey?

Edited by mr2tony 2008-06-26 1:19 PM
2008-06-26 1:12 PM
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Jefferson "flying thing". Really, from White Rabbit descending down the crap chain to "We built this city"? Come now; there's no excuse...
2008-06-26 1:13 PM
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ChrisM - 2008-06-26 12:58 PM Anything by Brittney Spears after "Oops I Did It Again" has been pure coporate pop pablum

Actually, "Toxic" isn't that bad of a song...

2008-06-26 1:22 PM
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I'll admit that I like running to Britney's "Stronger"
2008-06-26 1:22 PM
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the bear - 2008-06-26 11:13 AM

ChrisM - 2008-06-26 12:58 PM Anything by Brittney Spears after "Oops I Did It Again" has been pure coporate pop pablum

Actually, "Toxic" isn't that bad of a song...

HA!  I knew I could lure you in for an admission.  Sucka!



2008-06-26 1:23 PM
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ChrisM - 2008-06-26 1:22 PM
the bear - 2008-06-26 11:13 AM

ChrisM - 2008-06-26 12:58 PM Anything by Brittney Spears after "Oops I Did It Again" has been pure coporate pop pablum

Actually, "Toxic" isn't that bad of a song...

HA!  I knew I could lure you in for an admission.  Sucka!

Sure, I'll gladly admit that I have eclectic taste in music. No shame there.

2008-06-26 1:40 PM
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Def Leppard

High and Dry and On Through the Night were brilliant starts for them.  Then came the wonderful Pyromania that literally set the world on Fire.  Hysteria was actually not too bad, considering they had a one armed drummer, and he was a blast to watch in concer.  Quit impressive actually. 

After that, total and utter crap.  Then Stevie died and it really started to get ugly. 

2008-06-26 1:49 PM
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The Beatles...

They were great with Pete Best on drums. They just never seemed to have gelled with that Ringo guy.

2008-06-26 2:08 PM
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crowny2 - 2008-06-26 2:40 PM

Def Leppard

High and Dry and On Through the Night were brilliant starts for them.  Then came the wonderful Pyromania that literally set the world on Fire.  Hysteria was actually not too bad, considering they had a one armed drummer, and he was a blast to watch in concer.  Quit impressive actually. 

After that, total and utter crap.  Then Stevie died and it really started to get ugly. 

Def Leppard is great if you don't mind listening to the same 2 or 3 sucky songs over and over again with modified lyrics.

 

2008-06-26 2:11 PM
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Opus - 2008-06-26 2:08 PM
crowny2 - 2008-06-26 2:40 PM

Def Leppard

High and Dry and On Through the Night were brilliant starts for them.  Then came the wonderful Pyromania that literally set the world on Fire.  Hysteria was actually not too bad, considering they had a one armed drummer, and he was a blast to watch in concer.  Quit impressive actually. 

After that, total and utter crap.  Then Stevie died and it really started to get ugly. 

Def Leppard is great if you don't mind listening to the same 2 or 3 sucky songs over and over again with modified lyrics.

 

Have you heard their first 2 albums?



2008-06-26 2:13 PM
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n.m.

euro is on.

Edited by jimbo 2008-06-26 2:19 PM
2008-06-26 2:17 PM
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crowny2 - 2008-06-26 2:11 PM
Opus - 2008-06-26 2:08 PM
crowny2 - 2008-06-26 2:40 PM

Def Leppard

High and Dry and On Through the Night were brilliant starts for them.  Then came the wonderful Pyromania that literally set the world on Fire.  Hysteria was actually not too bad, considering they had a one armed drummer, and he was a blast to watch in concer.  Quit impressive actually. 

After that, total and utter crap.  Then Stevie died and it really started to get ugly. 

Def Leppard is great if you don't mind listening to the same 2 or 3 sucky songs over and over again with modified lyrics.

 

Have you heard their first 2 albums?

All the way through (and you did mean album as in LP, right?   )

1st 2 were smokin'.  Too bad Pete had a drinking prob.

2008-06-26 2:18 PM
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crowny2 - 2008-06-26 3:11 PM
Opus - 2008-06-26 2:08 PM
crowny2 - 2008-06-26 2:40 PM

Def Leppard

High and Dry and On Through the Night were brilliant starts for them.  Then came the wonderful Pyromania that literally set the world on Fire.  Hysteria was actually not too bad, considering they had a one armed drummer, and he was a blast to watch in concer.  Quit impressive actually. 

After that, total and utter crap.  Then Stevie died and it really started to get ugly. 

Def Leppard is great if you don't mind listening to the same 2 or 3 sucky songs over and over again with modified lyrics.

 

Have you heard their first 2 albums?

Perhaps, but I must admit to not being sure. All that hair makes me jealous.

2008-06-26 2:51 PM
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sulross - 2008-06-26 12:52 PM

A little more obscure but Heather Nova - great first album then just kinda been downhill since. She could be much more.




I thought I was the only guy who owned a Heather Nova album (or 2). Agreed.
2008-06-26 2:56 PM
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Opus - 2008-06-26 2:18 PM
crowny2 - 2008-06-26 3:11 PM
Opus - 2008-06-26 2:08 PM
crowny2 - 2008-06-26 2:40 PM

Def Leppard

High and Dry and On Through the Night were brilliant starts for them.  Then came the wonderful Pyromania that literally set the world on Fire.  Hysteria was actually not too bad, considering they had a one armed drummer, and he was a blast to watch in concer.  Quit impressive actually. 

After that, total and utter crap.  Then Stevie died and it really started to get ugly. 

Def Leppard is great if you don't mind listening to the same 2 or 3 sucky songs over and over again with modified lyrics.

 

Have you heard their first 2 albums?

Perhaps, but I must admit to not being sure. All that hair makes me jealous.

AHA!  So the truth comes out. 



2008-06-26 2:58 PM
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1stTimeTri - 2008-06-26 2:17 PM
crowny2 - 2008-06-26 2:11 PM
Opus - 2008-06-26 2:08 PM
crowny2 - 2008-06-26 2:40 PM

Def Leppard

High and Dry and On Through the Night were brilliant starts for them.  Then came the wonderful Pyromania that literally set the world on Fire.  Hysteria was actually not too bad, considering they had a one armed drummer, and he was a blast to watch in concer.  Quit impressive actually. 

After that, total and utter crap.  Then Stevie died and it really started to get ugly. 

Def Leppard is great if you don't mind listening to the same 2 or 3 sucky songs over and over again with modified lyrics.

 

Have you heard their first 2 albums?

All the way through (and you did mean album as in LP, right?   )

1st 2 were smokin'.  Too bad Pete had a drinking prob.

Yep.  I meant Vinyl.  I still have mine!!!

Yes, it is too bad about Pete.  Also too bad about Steve Clark.  Actually, quite sad.

2008-06-26 3:13 PM
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A few years back, I would have agreed with both U2 and REM.  However, U2 became relevant again with 'All That You Can't Leave Behind' and REM has captured some of their previous glory with 'Accelerate'.

As for Liz Phair (one of my favorite artists of all time) - let's say I'm still waiting for evidence that the last album was just a joke orchestrated to put her kids through college and she will return to her prior work...

2008-06-26 3:27 PM
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Fatdoggy - 2008-06-26 1:07 PM

REM's new album is actually really, really good IMO.

 I have only heard a few of the new songs but I saw them (Stipes & Mike Mills) giving an interview and it was incredibly pretentious.  They are still in my top 5 of favorite bands but they should go back to their old style.

If you ever have a chance try to rent/see Athens Inside/Out.  The early REM & Athens,GA days.  Brilliant.

2008-06-26 3:27 PM
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BHannahs - 2008-06-26 3:13 PM

As for Liz Phair (one of my favorite artists of all time) - let's say I'm still waiting for evidence that the last album was just a joke orchestrated to put her kids through college and she will return to her prior work...



C'mon now, any disc with Liz Phair singing the lyrics to "HWC" ain't all bad.

2008-06-26 7:19 PM
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shrano - 2008-06-26 2:08 PM
mr2tony - 2008-06-26 1:01 PM ``Do you like Huey Lewis and the News? Their early work was a little too new wave for my tastes, but when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercial and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He's been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far much more bitter, cynical sense of humour. In '87, Huey released this, Fore, their most accomplished album. I think their undisputed masterpiece is "Hip to be Square", a song so catchy, most people probably don't listen to the lyrics. But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of conformity, and the importance of trends, it's also a personal statement about the band itself.'' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwnsz0WqHp0
this post is a joke, right?

This is a quote from American Psycho. It gets posted here (and everywhere onthe 'net, no doubt, whenever the spectre of Huey Lewis is invoked.



2008-06-26 7:21 PM
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grdavison - 2008-06-26 1:16 PM
run4yrlif - 2008-06-26 9:45 AM

Liz Phair.

She was an indie rock goddess, but then put out that corporate powerpop crap in her last album, produced by the freaking Matrix. I love her, but she needs to turn that ship around and head back to port.

She made a comment once that she makes more money being middle of the road pop than she ever did being Queen of the Indie Rock

She must have got some up frontmoney, because somethinglie 3 people bought her last album:

YearAlbumBillboard ChartU.S. SalesRIAA CertificationUK Chart Position
1993Exile In Guyville196450,000Gold78
1994Whip-Smart27600,000Gold45
1998Whitechocolatespaceegg35320,000 64
2003Liz Phair27429,000 28
2005Somebody's Miracle4681,000 unreleased

 

2008-06-26 10:19 PM
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run4yrlif - 2008-06-26 8:21 PM

grdavison - 2008-06-26 1:16 PM
run4yrlif - 2008-06-26 9:45 AM

Liz Phair.

She was an indie rock goddess, but then put out that corporate powerpop crap in her last album, produced by the freaking Matrix. I love her, but she needs to turn that ship around and head back to port.

She made a comment once that she makes more money being middle of the road pop than she ever did being Queen of the Indie Rock

She must have got some up frontmoney, because somethinglie 3 people bought her last album:

YearAlbumBillboard ChartU.S. SalesRIAA CertificationUK Chart Position
1993Exile In Guyville196450,000Gold78
1994Whip-Smart27600,000Gold45
1998Whitechocolatespaceegg35320,000 64
2003Liz Phair27429,000 28
2005Somebody's Miracle4681,000 unreleased

 



Where did you get that grid? The sales numbers for "Exile" seem rather on the high side..Certainly more than I would have guessed..
2008-06-26 10:33 PM
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It's tough to say sometimes..Neil Young/Bobby Dylan/Elvis Costello all have pretty bland stretches - Anyone remember ReAcTOr and Trans? - followed by years of incredible creativity. I think it's true that 'classic' acts have a much harder time getting people to listen to their newer stuff..Folks just want the nostalgia trip.

My best idea for the list would be Elvis P. Two great years followed by, well, it was generally pretty bad..
2008-06-27 8:45 AM
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alltom1 - 2008-06-26 11:19 PM
run4yrlif - 2008-06-26 8:21 PM
grdavison - 2008-06-26 1:16 PM
run4yrlif - 2008-06-26 9:45 AM

Liz Phair.

She was an indie rock goddess, but then put out that corporate powerpop crap in her last album, produced by the freaking Matrix. I love her, but she needs to turn that ship around and head back to port.

She made a comment once that she makes more money being middle of the road pop than she ever did being Queen of the Indie Rock

She must have got some up frontmoney, because somethinglie 3 people bought her last album:

YearAlbumBillboard ChartU.S. SalesRIAA CertificationUK Chart Position
1993Exile In Guyville196450,000Gold78
1994Whip-Smart27600,000Gold45
1998Whitechocolatespaceegg35320,000 64
2003Liz Phair27429,000 28
2005Somebody's Miracle4681,000 unreleased

 

Where did you get that grid? The sales numbers for "Exile" seem rather on the high side..Certainly more than I would have guessed..
Wikipedia...so yeah, I guess they could be inaccurate. But those are cumulative sales...people are still buying it. I doubt that in the first couple of years after it's release it sold much, but since then it makes just about everyone's most important albums list, and that residual effect was pretty strong, I think.

 

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