Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois (Page 27)

Originally posted by marysia83

Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by marysia83 Trail runners: anything unusual I should expect in trail half marathon? This is my very first trail run, I don't even remember why I signed up for it (8 months ago it sounded like a good idea, or I just didn't even notice it was trail). I do not have any fancy shoes, just regular running ones, the weather should be nice (sunny and 72 degrees), so no worries about rain/mud. I am not planning to push too hard, just enjoy the views around while running in a relaxing pace.

Think it's this one? It says crushed limestone and looks like a nice pathway through a park area. Probably not really going to be much of any more technical than the roads. Any shoes you have should be fine. Figure out the aid stations/water stops, as was mentioned and have an idea of what the route should be. Hills don't really look like anything substantial, just stay patient on them. Especially going up, keep the effort the same, which means you'll slow down as needed. Basically just things you should do at any race.

It's usually when things get more into dirt and single track that they really get tricky (or really interesting!). The pathways look wide enough to drive a truck (which they do for maintenance) and may have horses on it.

ETA: Something like Frozen Gnome up in Crystal Lake may have more like what Ann Marie was getting into with potential obstacles or watching your footing more. I can't remember others in the Chicago area at the moment, but have done others up in Wisconsin.

Thanks for your input, Ben! Yes, it does say limestone. It's just whenever I see "trail" I am thinking Ann Marie, Salty, and TJ.... and their crazy stories Here's a link to a map, which shows aid stations: https://www.allcommunityevents.com/naperville_half/nhm_map.pdfThis one shows elevation, which also does not mean much to me: https://www.allcommunityevents.com/naperville_half/nhm_elevation_gra... Anyways, looking forward to have fun. And some new experience

Looks like it is very flat, perhaps an old railroad bed, aka rail trail?  Many of them utilize crushed stone.  

Feet above sea level is on the left.  There is only 1% grade gained or lost at most throughout, indicated by the colored legend at the top.  While the area between miles 5-6 may look like a hill, it's only a 10 foot gain over a mile, going from 715 feet to 725 feet.  Should be flat and fast, have fun!

Originally posted by melbo55

Originally posted by marysia83

Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by marysia83 Trail runners: anything unusual I should expect in trail half marathon? This is my very first trail run, I don't even remember why I signed up for it (8 months ago it sounded like a good idea, or I just didn't even notice it was trail). I do not have any fancy shoes, just regular running ones, the weather should be nice (sunny and 72 degrees), so no worries about rain/mud. I am not planning to push too hard, just enjoy the views around while running in a relaxing pace.

Think it's this one? It says crushed limestone and looks like a nice pathway through a park area. Probably not really going to be much of any more technical than the roads. Any shoes you have should be fine. Figure out the aid stations/water stops, as was mentioned and have an idea of what the route should be. Hills don't really look like anything substantial, just stay patient on them. Especially going up, keep the effort the same, which means you'll slow down as needed. Basically just things you should do at any race.

It's usually when things get more into dirt and single track that they really get tricky (or really interesting!). The pathways look wide enough to drive a truck (which they do for maintenance) and may have horses on it.

ETA: Something like Frozen Gnome up in Crystal Lake may have more like what Ann Marie was getting into with potential obstacles or watching your footing more. I can't remember others in the Chicago area at the moment, but have done others up in Wisconsin.

Thanks for your input, Ben! Yes, it does say limestone. It's just whenever I see "trail" I am thinking Ann Marie, Salty, and TJ.... and their crazy stories Here's a link to a map, which shows aid stations: https://www.allcommunityevents.com/naperville_half/nhm_map.pdfThis one shows elevation, which also does not mean much to me: https://www.allcommunityevents.com/naperville_half/nhm_elevation_gra... Anyways, looking forward to have fun. And some new experience

Looks like it is very flat, perhaps an old railroad bed, aka rail trail?  Many of them utilize crushed stone.  

Feet above sea level is on the left.  There is only 1% grade gained or lost at most throughout, indicated by the colored legend at the top.  While the area between miles 5-6 may look like a hill, it's only a 10 foot gain over a mile, going from 715 feet to 725 feet.  Should be flat and fast, have fun!

There are a good deal of trails like that in the area, but not sure this is actually one of them. There really aren't substantial climbs in the area, just some quicker ones in some places that can put a little sting in if you're not careful. I've never liked the program that the course site used to show elevation. It takes too broad of an approach and just never really seemed that accurate. I happened to come across the other one that shows some more detail, but still don't think there is anything to worry about. With it being Naperville, think they'll have some really nice forest and meadow areas to run through.

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Guys, when you are IM training, does your family expect you to make dinner?  I almost bit Kevin's head off tonight.  I came home from work, walked Zoe, did my brick and when I got home from that, Kevin was hovering while I made dinner.  I couldn't even get to the recipe.  It's not as if (1) this was not on the calendar or (2) this is a new thing.  I mean, if he's hungry he either needs to make dinner or snack appropriately.  So frustrating sometimes.

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That being said, I know that I'm better off eating homemade food that junk. 

Originally posted by marysia83

Originally posted by jmkizer

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Guys, when you are IM training, does your family expect you to make dinner?  I almost bit Kevin's head off tonight.  I came home from work, walked Zoe, did my brick and when I got home from that, Kevin was hovering while I made dinner.  I couldn't even get to the recipe.  It's not as if (1) this was not on the calendar or (2) this is a new thing.  I mean, if he's hungry he either needs to make dinner or snack appropriately.  So frustrating sometimes.

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That being said, I know that I'm better off eating homemade food that junk. 

Oh gosh, sorry to hear. So frustrating :/ No advice from me, my family (kids) don't know what it means to train for IM (yet), but I remember being super pissed for my ex-husband who did not work and whine when the dinner was not ready after I came back from work and did stuff with our child (well, we're divorced now, for all sorts of reasons lol). I hope you finally got a chance to have a nice evening Maybe he had a stressful day as well?

I just think that Kevin needs to be more aware of getting in my way when I am dealing with knives!

Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by marysia83

Originally posted by jmkizer

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Guys, when you are IM training, does your family expect you to make dinner?  I almost bit Kevin's head off tonight.  I came home from work, walked Zoe, did my brick and when I got home from that, Kevin was hovering while I made dinner.  I couldn't even get to the recipe.  It's not as if (1) this was not on the calendar or (2) this is a new thing.  I mean, if he's hungry he either needs to make dinner or snack appropriately.  So frustrating sometimes.

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That being said, I know that I'm better off eating homemade food that junk. 

Oh gosh, sorry to hear. So frustrating :/ No advice from me, my family (kids) don't know what it means to train for IM (yet), but I remember being super pissed for my ex-husband who did not work and whine when the dinner was not ready after I came back from work and did stuff with our child (well, we're divorced now, for all sorts of reasons lol). I hope you finally got a chance to have a nice evening Maybe he had a stressful day as well?

I just think that Kevin needs to be more aware of getting in my way when I am dealing with knives!

LOL! That is very true - especially with those taper crazies starting! 

My situation is like rrrrunner - he will do it if i ask but i have to ask. It's not too terrible because I prefer cooking to cleaning up but clearly IM training requires some sense of just how busy you are picking up your end of things ... right?

yeah, I do the menu/list/shopping on Sunday or Monday.  We eat together six nights a week and we have Fend For Self one night a week when Kevin and I each to longer rides.  Usually, Kevin is pretty good about dinner being whenever it is but last night between me being tired and his hovering (which makes me crazy even if I'm not tired!)...  I just snapped at him, "Men who do Ironman DON'T HAVE TO COOK!"  He left the room. 

Kevin's attempts when I was in a sling were pitiful.  He can do things like pick up a rotisserie chicken.

What kind of expectations are there with making dinner? What I'm familiar with in a rotisserie chicken is way more than I'll do for myself. Others in my family think they do things simple, but then proceed to cut, chop, and grind 4-7 things just into a salad plus put some dressing on it. Some things may be soaked in some type of seasoning for the day or other kinds of things I don't know what all is going on.

Instead, I'll buy some mixed leaf stuff and grab a big handful of that. Maybe add one more thing to it on occasion. A number of things tend to be just heating them up. Only a little seasoning added to some, and that's generally just the plain chicken or fish. The patties (veggie too) never really need anything added. Bonus is that they don't need thawing either. I turn the griddle on, wait for the light and then put them in. It's hard to really burn them too. Rice and pasta can both be just boil the water, dump it in and wait the roughly 5 or 20 minutes for each to finish. I can even see both the griddle light and the stovetop from where I watch TV. Minute rice is nice at times too, though is not always enough for me. Portions of things tend to be simple too. Generally it's the whole package or half of it. Lessening and simplifying steps might help.

ETA: When training more heavily in the past, a good meal is certainly appreciated, but the energy to make it tended to not be worth it. I wanted to go sit down. Things were more just doing adequate. Doesn't have to taste awesome. Just be easy to eat even though I might not be excited for it, and have a lot of nutrition in it.

• Slice an onion
• Dice an apple
• add pre-cut butternut squash
• add seasoning (3 kinds), measuring
• slice sausage
• put in foil on tray
• bake

This was problematic.  Seriously.

Sorry about Kevin's lack of cooking ability/initiative, Janyne, it sounds frustrating for sure, especially when your training is at such a heavy point in the program.  

I'm fortunate in that EFP doesn't mind helping cook while I've got training scheduled, but my problem is his general need to hover/be like a 5 year old who can't be away from his mother for more than 10 minutes.  He is constantly at me and doesn't have a very good sense of 'hey, maybe I should stay out of her way and just let her do ____________'.  Sooooo frustrating.  I've tried addressing it which works for maybe a week, then resorts back to how it was.  For example, he seems to think that it's OK to interrupt me 4+ times during an hour ride on the trainer just to tell me some trivial thing that could easily wait until I'm finished, or to bring the dogs down to see me (they can walk downstairs themselves if they want to see me).  He just can't let me be.

Sorry for the topic hijack, sort of.  File it under 'Frustrating Things Spouses Do'.

Thanks for listening.  I was just super frustrated last night and I understand that to a large extent, he still doesn't "get it," despite the fact that this is not our first rodeo.  I mean, I said I had x hours of training last week and y hours the week before and he said, "Really?!"  Um, yeah.  What did you think that I was doing all that time I was not at work and not at home?

Geez!  I'm not sure that I've interrupted Kevin four times on the trainer EVER, much less in one day!

Hovering and questions drive me up the wall too. I mean, is someone on fire? Otherwise let me do my thing.

Zoe just had her first birthday.

Well, think baking (ie heat something up) is the only thing that isn't more involving or doesn't have more steps than what I put down.   But this is also just me doing it all the time.

My sister (& husband) and my mother think nothing of doing those kinds of things either. I'm perfectly capable, but choose not to. It was really interesting seeing all of this again last year when I was back home while hurt. I can't stand having people tend to me, so try to figure out how to do as much as I could myself. My mother felt bad and wanted to help. She kept wanting to add stuff even though I was honestly fine with things.