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 2016-09-12 1:22 PM in reply to: 0 |
Master  6595     Rio Rancho, NM |  Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois |
| 2016-09-12 2:25 PM in reply to: rrrunner |
| Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois My race report from 2 weeks ago is finally up, I figured I don't want two looming over my head so I knocked it out before I have Harvest Moon to report on! |
| 2016-09-12 3:50 PM in reply to: melbo55 |
Alpharetta, Georgia Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Hi everyone, checking in! I did in fact do a race Saturday, but it was more about running with my training group than racing. We did the 5K + 8 more miles to get our long run in. It was great, and we had crisp fall weather to boot. I am still calming myself down from testifying this morning against the man who threatened to rape me (while I was running, alone, about a month ago). I have learned that I'm really good under pressure (even the prosecutor commented how I was calm while one of the other ladies - there were 3 of us - was on the verge of a break down) - but in the aftermath I am kind of a mess. Long story short he was found guilty, but had only been charged with disturbing the peace, so was sentenced to 90 days in prison and he has already served 25. Long version in my blog today. Since I am thinking about this I will ask you all (especially the ladies) - do you carry anything like mace when you're training alone? I am thinking about it, but not sure I would be able to react quickly enough to activate it properly unless I ran with it in the "ready" position at all times. Which let's be honest, I probably wouldn't. Any suggestions for peace of mind, besides obvious safety tips? |
| 2016-09-12 4:09 PM in reply to: lisac957 |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by lisac957 Hi everyone, checking in! I did in fact do a race Saturday, but it was more about running with my training group than racing. We did the 5K + 8 more miles to get our long run in. It was great, and we had crisp fall weather to boot. I am still calming myself down from testifying this morning against the man who threatened to rape me (while I was running, alone, about a month ago). I have learned that I'm really good under pressure (even the prosecutor commented how I was calm while one of the other ladies - there were 3 of us - was on the verge of a break down) - but in the aftermath I am kind of a mess. Long story short he was found guilty, but had only been charged with disturbing the peace, so was sentenced to 90 days in prison and he has already served 25. Long version in my blog today. Since I am thinking about this I will ask you all (especially the ladies) - do you carry anything like mace when you're training alone? I am thinking about it, but not sure I would be able to react quickly enough to activate it properly unless I ran with it in the "ready" position at all times. Which let's be honest, I probably wouldn't. Any suggestions for peace of mind, besides obvious safety tips? First, I'm sorry you had to go through that experience and I'm glad you had the strength to testify. So many don't. I don't carry anything. Oftentimes I have my 4 legged running partner. She's not fierce but they don't know that. A couple things about mace 1) you don't know if/how it will affect your would be attacker 2) you don't know if/how it will affect you, if you receive blowback/overspray. Some people aren't affected (one guy in my class wasn't phased, at all) and some are affected greatly (I was able to do what I needed to do but it was.... traumatic. That's not to say don't carry it, just food for thought. For a while I was using a safety app that would alert somebody if I stayed still too long or didn't check in at the end of a run. It also had a panic button. I liked the idea of the panic button more than anything. The app wasn't working well so I removed it but I'm sure there are other similar apps out there. That will only be an option, of course, if you carry your phone when you run and it's in a convenient location to hit the button. My phone is usually in a fanny pack or zippered pocket so it wouldn't be as affective as say if I wore it in an arm band. |
| 2016-09-12 4:30 PM in reply to: DaveL |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by DaveL real training question below. I am doing okay on my 50k training plan but ran into a snag this past weekend. I was scheduled to do my longest run of 40km but also had the toughmudder thing. For the tough mudder I ran it (20km) mostly up and down hills which in my mind made it a decent workout. My intention was to do the 40km run the next day. This didnt happen - The copious number of bruises, scrapes and using muscles which havent been used for a while took a little (a LOT!) out of me and I was pretty sore when I woke up Sunday - I did a trail run late on the Sunday in the hopes that things would loosen up as I went. It really didnt and I only ran 13km before deciding that I needed the rest more than suffering though a long run. Looking ahead to my next weekend I have a 32km run followed by an 8km the next day - Should I instead substitute in that 40km run that I missed? At this point I can crank out the 30km to 35km runs no problem but at 40km/+ I am still in unknown territory. Is it worth doing a 40km run 2 weeks out from my 50km race? More important than the distance of your longest run is your volume over the training period and your consistency. Don't let yourself get too psyched out by "unknown territory." How wiped out do you think that 40K would leave you and how long do you think it would take you to recover? It always takes longer than you think... I believe it to be more important to show up on race day recovered for marathon/ultra marathons. I will say, the difference between 32 and 40 K is pretty insignificant. I know there is a lot of emphasis to "sticking to the plan" but if you are generally following, understanding the intention of the workouts you should be fine. Doing the prescribed 32k won't blow your race. Doing 40k and showing up not fully recovered *could* blow your race. I'll bet the 20k tough mudder wasn't too far off of the prescribed 40K run in terms of load, based on your description. Don't discount that either.
Now for my own personal experience, I ran 100+ miles (broken into 3 days at 35 miles, 45 miles then 25 miles) I only did a long run of about 20 miles (but had volume in the 70s consistently, up to 90 a couple of times) leading up to it and when I ran the 55K ultra I did 26.2 mile max for a long run.
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| 2016-09-12 4:34 PM in reply to: rrrunner |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by lisac957 Hi everyone, checking in! I did in fact do a race Saturday, but it was more about running with my training group than racing. We did the 5K + 8 more miles to get our long run in. It was great, and we had crisp fall weather to boot. I am still calming myself down from testifying this morning against the man who threatened to rape me (while I was running, alone, about a month ago). I have learned that I'm really good under pressure (even the prosecutor commented how I was calm while one of the other ladies - there were 3 of us - was on the verge of a break down) - but in the aftermath I am kind of a mess. Long story short he was found guilty, but had only been charged with disturbing the peace, so was sentenced to 90 days in prison and he has already served 25. Long version in my blog today. Since I am thinking about this I will ask you all (especially the ladies) - do you carry anything like mace when you're training alone? I am thinking about it, but not sure I would be able to react quickly enough to activate it properly unless I ran with it in the "ready" position at all times. Which let's be honest, I probably wouldn't. Any suggestions for peace of mind, besides obvious safety tips? First, I'm sorry you had to go through that experience and I'm glad you had the strength to testify. So many don't. I don't carry anything. Oftentimes I have my 4 legged running partner. She's not fierce but they don't know that. A couple things about mace 1) you don't know if/how it will affect your would be attacker 2) you don't know if/how it will affect you, if you receive blowback/overspray. Some people aren't affected (one guy in my class wasn't phased, at all) and some are affected greatly (I was able to do what I needed to do but it was.... traumatic. That's not to say don't carry it, just food for thought. For a while I was using a safety app that would alert somebody if I stayed still too long or didn't check in at the end of a run. It also had a panic button. I liked the idea of the panic button more than anything. The app wasn't working well so I removed it but I'm sure there are other similar apps out there. That will only be an option, of course, if you carry your phone when you run and it's in a convenient location to hit the button. My phone is usually in a fanny pack or zippered pocket so it wouldn't be as affective as say if I wore it in an arm band. Great tips TJ and yuck, sorry you had to go through that Lisa! I don't carry anything. I was attacked in a crowded public space surrounded by my friends. Sh*t happens and you can't control it all. Do what you can to mitigate the risks. Be aware of your surroundings, don't wear headphones, choose well lit paths, run in more popular routes if possible. Those things will likely do a lot more for you. |
| 2016-09-12 4:50 PM in reply to: lisac957 |
Master 4452  | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by lisac957 Hi everyone, checking in! I did in fact do a race Saturday, but it was more about running with my training group than racing. We did the 5K + 8 more miles to get our long run in. It was great, and we had crisp fall weather to boot. I am still calming myself down from testifying this morning against the man who threatened to rape me (while I was running, alone, about a month ago). I have learned that I'm really good under pressure (even the prosecutor commented how I was calm while one of the other ladies - there were 3 of us - was on the verge of a break down) - but in the aftermath I am kind of a mess. Long story short he was found guilty, but had only been charged with disturbing the peace, so was sentenced to 90 days in prison and he has already served 25. Long version in my blog today. Since I am thinking about this I will ask you all (especially the ladies) - do you carry anything like mace when you're training alone? I am thinking about it, but not sure I would be able to react quickly enough to activate it properly unless I ran with it in the "ready" position at all times. Which let's be honest, I probably wouldn't. Any suggestions for peace of mind, besides obvious safety tips? Wow, echoing many here, but I'm sorry you went through that. Good on you for testifying. I hope you are able to put it behind you quickly. I do not carry anything but my phone, and that only on my long runs. I do often have to start in the dark. I stick on the roads (sidewalks) and try to stick to busier ones--I HATE running along busy roads with traffic noise and exhaust--but I figure it is safer. As Adrienne said, bad guys can be found everywhere, so I just do whatever I can to stay safe. |
| 2016-09-12 5:09 PM in reply to: TXTriRook |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by TXTriRook Originally posted by JBacarella I tried three new things this week and loved them for race day. 1. Wet wipes, 2 Gum and 3 pickles. I was told on another thread about the wet wipes and gum. I loved them both. They gave me that little bit of a human feeling. I was able to get the salt off of my face and clean the sticky off of my hands. The gum got rid of the fuzzy on my teeth from sports drink and slimy sugar and just freshened my mouth. I tried a pickle on a whim during the run. It tasted great had a good salty taste, cleaned my mouth and didn't come back. Good morning everyone. Sounds like a lot of us had busy weekends! I look forward to reading some race reports this afternoon. A pickle on the run?? That's a new one. Did you leave it in a ziplock and run with it until you felt like it? The company that owns the race provided them at the aid stations. I never would have thought of it on my own. |
| 2016-09-12 5:17 PM in reply to: IronOx |
Royal(PITA) 14270 West Chester, Ohio | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by IronOx Originally posted by lisac957 Hi everyone, checking in! I did in fact do a race Saturday, but it was more about running with my training group than racing. We did the 5K + 8 more miles to get our long run in. It was great, and we had crisp fall weather to boot. I am still calming myself down from testifying this morning against the man who threatened to rape me (while I was running, alone, about a month ago). I have learned that I'm really good under pressure (even the prosecutor commented how I was calm while one of the other ladies - there were 3 of us - was on the verge of a break down) - but in the aftermath I am kind of a mess. Long story short he was found guilty, but had only been charged with disturbing the peace, so was sentenced to 90 days in prison and he has already served 25. Long version in my blog today. Since I am thinking about this I will ask you all (especially the ladies) - do you carry anything like mace when you're training alone? I am thinking about it, but not sure I would be able to react quickly enough to activate it properly unless I ran with it in the "ready" position at all times. Which let's be honest, I probably wouldn't. Any suggestions for peace of mind, besides obvious safety tips? Wow, echoing many here, but I'm sorry you went through that. Good on you for testifying. I hope you are able to put it behind you quickly. I do not carry anything but my phone, and that only on my long runs. I do often have to start in the dark. I stick on the roads (sidewalks) and try to stick to busier ones--I HATE running along busy roads with traffic noise and exhaust--but I figure it is safer. As Adrienne said, bad guys can be found everywhere, so I just do whatever I can to stay safe. I don't carry anything when I am out. My only concern about mace comes from an old work experience....they had to spray it to contain a patient who was going bat crap crazy in the ER. It was used outside but got into the ventilation system....People with asthma had problems all night. So you have to make sure that canister is pointed the right way and if you are in a hurry to get away from someone, it may not be so....or easily done.....Just my 2 cents. |
| 2016-09-12 5:33 PM in reply to: lisac957 |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by lisac957 Hi everyone, checking in! I did in fact do a race Saturday, but it was more about running with my training group than racing. We did the 5K + 8 more miles to get our long run in. It was great, and we had crisp fall weather to boot. I am still calming myself down from testifying this morning against the man who threatened to rape me (while I was running, alone, about a month ago). I have learned that I'm really good under pressure (even the prosecutor commented how I was calm while one of the other ladies - there were 3 of us - was on the verge of a break down) - but in the aftermath I am kind of a mess. Long story short he was found guilty, but had only been charged with disturbing the peace, so was sentenced to 90 days in prison and he has already served 25. Long version in my blog today. Since I am thinking about this I will ask you all (especially the ladies) - do you carry anything like mace when you're training alone? I am thinking about it, but not sure I would be able to react quickly enough to activate it properly unless I ran with it in the "ready" position at all times. Which let's be honest, I probably wouldn't. Any suggestions for peace of mind, besides obvious safety tips? Good job testifying!. It is difficult and scary to testify in open court and especially when it was a scary and dangerous event like you experienced. Nobody likes being in court, except the lawyers, but they are paid to be there. I am impressed by crime victims who can come forward and tell their story. Even though he was found guilty of a misdemeanor, if he does something like this again, it will make the penalty steeper. I would suggest that you only carry a weapon that you have been properly trained to use and are confident that you can use under stress. If not, all you will do is arm your attacker. I think your greatest weapon is your legs. You have the training to run further and faster than most potential attackers. We talked about giving our oldest daughters mace when they went to college, but decided it was best to reinforce the run and scream method. Plus I have drilled into them not to go to football, basketball, hockey or fraternity parties. I don't know if that stuck, but they keep telling me it did. They would also lose their jobs with the football team if they fraternize with the players, so I've got that going for me, which is nice. Anyways good job, I'm proud of you. |
| 2016-09-12 5:37 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 8249 Eugene, Oregon Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Races--Had thought about Challenge. Challenge Taiwan is in April and there is a team from the bike shop going.....I would have to request at least one more day off, though, and I think that might be frowned upon. They are pretty strict about the two-day limit and I already got 3. I think one has to qualify for Roth via some other event. Plus....isn't that full IM? Honestly I just do not feel ready. I know--there are plenty of people with a lot less background than me who train for IM, but......It gives me pause! There's an off chance I might go for Challenge Taiwan 70.3 next year in April, especially if I can't get leave for the one of the China races. Safety--I'm lucky that we have a lot of security in the neighborhood where I live. Not sure how much they really do, but I think having uniformed people with stun batons around probably acts as some kind of deterrent. I don't carry anything (Mace would probably kill me due to my asthma, regardless of what it did to an attacker), but I never wear headphones outside--not just for personal safety but to be able to hear approaching traffic. I don't run in places without a bunch of people around. In the US, my mom makes me run with a body alarm--I hate it and really doubt people would respond to it anyway. Potential attackers would probably think it's a pager or I-phone, so not much of a deterrent. When I lived in Taiwan, a friend who husband was in law enforcement got me a stun baton--lower-powered kind that was legal for civilians. I actually carried it as defense against packs of feral dogs that lived in my area. (It does work--painful but not fatal for doggie. All you have to do is get one on the nose, and the pack will run away.) Never had to use it, or threaten to use it, on a person. One reason training here has its benefits. In the US, I really don't feel safe running before dawn; so few people out. People in SE Asia get up early and hit the roads for jogging, dog-walking and the like, year-round, even well before 5. So there's an element of safety in numbers. |
| 2016-09-12 5:58 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by DaveL real training question below. I am doing okay on my 50k training plan but ran into a snag this past weekend. I was scheduled to do my longest run of 40km but also had the toughmudder thing. For the tough mudder I ran it (20km) mostly up and down hills which in my mind made it a decent workout. My intention was to do the 40km run the next day. This didnt happen - The copious number of bruises, scrapes and using muscles which havent been used for a while took a little (a LOT!) out of me and I was pretty sore when I woke up Sunday - I did a trail run late on the Sunday in the hopes that things would loosen up as I went. It really didnt and I only ran 13km before deciding that I needed the rest more than suffering though a long run. Looking ahead to my next weekend I have a 32km run followed by an 8km the next day - Should I instead substitute in that 40km run that I missed? At this point I can crank out the 30km to 35km runs no problem but at 40km/+ I am still in unknown territory. Is it worth doing a 40km run 2 weeks out from my 50km race? More important than the distance of your longest run is your volume over the training period and your consistency. Don't let yourself get too psyched out by "unknown territory." How wiped out do you think that 40K would leave you and how long do you think it would take you to recover? It always takes longer than you think... I believe it to be more important to show up on race day recovered for marathon/ultra marathons. I will say, the difference between 32 and 40 K is pretty insignificant. I know there is a lot of emphasis to "sticking to the plan" but if you are generally following, understanding the intention of the workouts you should be fine. Doing the prescribed 32k won't blow your race. Doing 40k and showing up not fully recovered *could* blow your race. I'll bet the 20k tough mudder wasn't too far off of the prescribed 40K run in terms of load, based on your description. Don't discount that either.
Now for my own personal experience, I ran 100+ miles (broken into 3 days at 35 miles, 45 miles then 25 miles) I only did a long run of about 20 miles (but had volume in the 70s consistently, up to 90 a couple of times) leading up to it and when I ran the 55K ultra I did 26.2 mile max for a long run.
Was thinking similar though don't have direct experience like that. |
| 2016-09-12 6:05 PM in reply to: lisac957 |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by lisac957 Hi everyone, checking in! I did in fact do a race Saturday, but it was more about running with my training group than racing. We did the 5K + 8 more miles to get our long run in. It was great, and we had crisp fall weather to boot. I am still calming myself down from testifying this morning against the man who threatened to rape me (while I was running, alone, about a month ago). I have learned that I'm really good under pressure (even the prosecutor commented how I was calm while one of the other ladies - there were 3 of us - was on the verge of a break down) - but in the aftermath I am kind of a mess. Long story short he was found guilty, but had only been charged with disturbing the peace, so was sentenced to 90 days in prison and he has already served 25. Long version in my blog today. Since I am thinking about this I will ask you all (especially the ladies) - do you carry anything like mace when you're training alone? I am thinking about it, but not sure I would be able to react quickly enough to activate it properly unless I ran with it in the "ready" position at all times. Which let's be honest, I probably wouldn't. Any suggestions for peace of mind, besides obvious safety tips? Nice going speaking up and sticking with it all the way through. Wish I had something to add, only occasionally thought about something for the odd dog coming out. It was brought up about realizing that most defense things are shown in ideal deployment and things tend to not go that way when under such stress. |
| 2016-09-12 8:41 PM in reply to: 0 |
Veteran 1900 Southampton, Ontario | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by DaveL real training question below. I am doing okay on my 50k training plan but ran into a snag this past weekend. I was scheduled to do my longest run of 40km but also had the toughmudder thing. For the tough mudder I ran it (20km) mostly up and down hills which in my mind made it a decent workout. My intention was to do the 40km run the next day. This didnt happen - The copious number of bruises, scrapes and using muscles which havent been used for a while took a little (a LOT!) out of me and I was pretty sore when I woke up Sunday - I did a trail run late on the Sunday in the hopes that things would loosen up as I went. It really didnt and I only ran 13km before deciding that I needed the rest more than suffering though a long run. Looking ahead to my next weekend I have a 32km run followed by an 8km the next day - Should I instead substitute in that 40km run that I missed? At this point I can crank out the 30km to 35km runs no problem but at 40km/+ I am still in unknown territory. Is it worth doing a 40km run 2 weeks out from my 50km race? More important than the distance of your longest run is your volume over the training period and your consistency. Don't let yourself get too psyched out by "unknown territory." How wiped out do you think that 40K would leave you and how long do you think it would take you to recover? It always takes longer than you think... I believe it to be more important to show up on race day recovered for marathon/ultra marathons. I will say, the difference between 32 and 40 K is pretty insignificant. I know there is a lot of emphasis to "sticking to the plan" but if you are generally following, understanding the intention of the workouts you should be fine. Doing the prescribed 32k won't blow your race. Doing 40k and showing up not fully recovered *could* blow your race. I'll bet the 20k tough mudder wasn't too far off of the prescribed 40K run in terms of load, based on your description. Don't discount that either.
Now for my own personal experience, I ran 100+ miles (broken into 3 days at 35 miles, 45 miles then 25 miles) I only did a long run of about 20 miles (but had volume in the 70s consistently, up to 90 a couple of times) leading up to it and when I ran the 55K ultra I did 26.2 mile max for a long run.
Okay, thank you and TJ for your insights, I am not a runner so I am trying to "follow the plan" and put trust in it. Going off of it does introduce a bit of anxiety. I think I will see how this week goes and make a decision on the weekend based on how I feel. Recovery from the long runs so far has been really really good. Edited by DaveL 2016-09-12 8:48 PM |
| 2016-09-12 8:55 PM in reply to: lisac957 |
Veteran 1900 Southampton, Ontario | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by lisac957 Hi everyone, checking in! I did in fact do a race Saturday, but it was more about running with my training group than racing. We did the 5K + 8 more miles to get our long run in. It was great, and we had crisp fall weather to boot. I am still calming myself down from testifying this morning against the man who threatened to rape me (while I was running, alone, about a month ago). I have learned that I'm really good under pressure (even the prosecutor commented how I was calm while one of the other ladies - there were 3 of us - was on the verge of a break down) - but in the aftermath I am kind of a mess. Long story short he was found guilty, but had only been charged with disturbing the peace, so was sentenced to 90 days in prison and he has already served 25. Long version in my blog today. Since I am thinking about this I will ask you all (especially the ladies) - do you carry anything like mace when you're training alone? I am thinking about it, but not sure I would be able to react quickly enough to activate it properly unless I ran with it in the "ready" position at all times. Which let's be honest, I probably wouldn't. Any suggestions for peace of mind, besides obvious safety tips? Thank you for doing the right thing, you might have saved someone else from what you experienced (or worse) I know you mentioned running alone but are there options to run with someone on those night runs? options for treadmill run? any indoor tracks in the area? |
| 2016-09-13 3:58 AM in reply to: 0 |
Veteran 2441 Western Australia | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by lisac957 I hope that you are doing ok Lisa. You are a brave lady to stand up in court. Hi everyone, checking in! I did in fact do a race Saturday, but it was more about running with my training group than racing. We did the 5K + 8 more miles to get our long run in. It was great, and we had crisp fall weather to boot. I am still calming myself down from testifying this morning against the man who threatened to rape me (while I was running, alone, about a month ago). I have learned that I'm really good under pressure (even the prosecutor commented how I was calm while one of the other ladies - there were 3 of us - was on the verge of a break down) - but in the aftermath I am kind of a mess. Long story short he was found guilty, but had only been charged with disturbing the peace, so was sentenced to 90 days in prison and he has already served 25. Long version in my blog today. Since I am thinking about this I will ask you all (especially the ladies) - do you carry anything like mace when you're training alone? I am thinking about it, but not sure I would be able to react quickly enough to activate it properly unless I ran with it in the "ready" position at all times. Which let's be honest, I probably wouldn't. Any suggestions for peace of mind, besides obvious safety tips? I dont have much to add about safety. I live in a more remote suburb of the city, with very little street lighting, no footpaths, poor road shoulders and almost no traffic. I actually normally feel very safe running even in the dark. This is probably partly because our suburb is just out of the way and the crime stats are low. The one exception to this was recently when I terminated someone's employment and her husband went a bit psycho and made some threats and was then seen driving back and forward past my house on a Sunday morning. I stopped running in the dark for a bit, until I came to the conclusion he was too lazy to get out of bed that early in the morning anyway. Edited by StaceyK 2016-09-13 4:04 AM |
| 2016-09-13 6:44 AM in reply to: lisac957 |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by lisac957 Hi everyone, checking in! I did in fact do a race Saturday, but it was more about running with my training group than racing. We did the 5K + 8 more miles to get our long run in. It was great, and we had crisp fall weather to boot. I am still calming myself down from testifying this morning against the man who threatened to rape me (while I was running, alone, about a month ago). I have learned that I'm really good under pressure (even the prosecutor commented how I was calm while one of the other ladies - there were 3 of us - was on the verge of a break down) - but in the aftermath I am kind of a mess. Long story short he was found guilty, but had only been charged with disturbing the peace, so was sentenced to 90 days in prison and he has already served 25. Long version in my blog today. Since I am thinking about this I will ask you all (especially the ladies) - do you carry anything like mace when you're training alone? I am thinking about it, but not sure I would be able to react quickly enough to activate it properly unless I ran with it in the "ready" position at all times. Which let's be honest, I probably wouldn't. Any suggestions for peace of mind, besides obvious safety tips? I agree with the sentiment of others that if you carry mace you better be prepared to use it or risk having it used against you. This is a very real issue and shouldn't be swept aside. And being prepared to use it also means knowing how to use it to include being aware of the conditions so as to avoid macing yourself. I don't carry anything when I run alone, except may my phone. I know the areas I run in and pay attention to my surroundings. Sorry you had to go through this, testifying is never fun, but it is necessary to help make sure someone else is not victimized. |
| 2016-09-13 7:11 AM in reply to: amd723 |
Veteran 2441 Western Australia | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois I think we have created a running addict! I was talking to my mum tonight, she has been sick for the last two weeks with the flu which has turned into a very nasty chest infection. Her Doctor is warning about getting on top of it before it becomes pneumonia as she gets a bit of asthma during winter. She has been off work for over a week and her biggest concern and irritation is she hasn't been able to run for a week and a half and she is getting a bit antsy. |
| 2016-09-13 8:57 AM in reply to: lisac957 |
| Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by lisac957 Hi everyone, checking in! I did in fact do a race Saturday, but it was more about running with my training group than racing. We did the 5K + 8 more miles to get our long run in. It was great, and we had crisp fall weather to boot. I am still calming myself down from testifying this morning against the man who threatened to rape me (while I was running, alone, about a month ago). I have learned that I'm really good under pressure (even the prosecutor commented how I was calm while one of the other ladies - there were 3 of us - was on the verge of a break down) - but in the aftermath I am kind of a mess. Long story short he was found guilty, but had only been charged with disturbing the peace, so was sentenced to 90 days in prison and he has already served 25. Long version in my blog today. Since I am thinking about this I will ask you all (especially the ladies) - do you carry anything like mace when you're training alone? I am thinking about it, but not sure I would be able to react quickly enough to activate it properly unless I ran with it in the "ready" position at all times. Which let's be honest, I probably wouldn't. Any suggestions for peace of mind, besides obvious safety tips? Sorry to hear you went through this, Lisa, very scary. Good on ya for having the guts to testify against him - at the very least it should hopefully make him realize he will have consequences to his actions, even if they didn't hit him with a tougher charge. I hope you are recovered or recovering from this mentally or have someone you can talk to to help you through this. My own safety measures: I don't wear headphones, ever. I try very hard to keep my eyes and ears alert, watching my surroundings, listening. I always run with a phone which doesn't help much if being attacked, but it's there to get help otherwise. I do have self-defense training learned from my years studying Tae Kwon Do, although I haven't practiced lately. I would like to think that some of the moves are a part of my muscle memory, and I actually do think through them from time to time, imagining what I'd do, the steps I'd take if I were grabbed. Mental training and preparation is slightly better than no training. And by no means would I stay and fight, I mean take moves to get out of an attacker's grasp. Escape and run. Like others have said, screaming or calling attention to the situation is a good plan, too. Or run away if you can. Again, I'm really sorry you had to go through this. Take care. |
| 2016-09-13 11:37 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois On a different, but still creepy, note. If anyone wants to see pix of a rattle snake on a ride just follow DH, Dave Lato, on Strava. |
| 2016-09-13 1:25 PM in reply to: DaveL |
| Alpharetta, Georgia Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by DaveL Thank you for doing the right thing, you might have saved someone else from what you experienced (or worse) I know you mentioned running alone but are there options to run with someone on those night runs? options for treadmill run? any indoor tracks in the area? Yes I've started running Tuesdays and Saturdays with groups, but I still have a few days a week on my own. I have a treadmill in my basement I've ran on at least once a week since then. I hate letting this incident change my life and my routine though. He kind of wins when that happens |
| 2016-09-13 1:53 PM in reply to: DaveL |
Champion 14677 Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by DaveL Originally posted by lisac957 Thank you for doing the right thing, you might have saved someone else from what you experienced (or worse) I know you mentioned running alone but are there options to run with someone on those night runs? options for treadmill run? any indoor tracks in the area? Hi everyone, checking in! I did in fact do a race Saturday, but it was more about running with my training group than racing. We did the 5K + 8 more miles to get our long run in. It was great, and we had crisp fall weather to boot. I am still calming myself down from testifying this morning against the man who threatened to rape me (while I was running, alone, about a month ago). I have learned that I'm really good under pressure (even the prosecutor commented how I was calm while one of the other ladies - there were 3 of us - was on the verge of a break down) - but in the aftermath I am kind of a mess. Long story short he was found guilty, but had only been charged with disturbing the peace, so was sentenced to 90 days in prison and he has already served 25. Long version in my blog today. Since I am thinking about this I will ask you all (especially the ladies) - do you carry anything like mace when you're training alone? I am thinking about it, but not sure I would be able to react quickly enough to activate it properly unless I ran with it in the "ready" position at all times. Which let's be honest, I probably wouldn't. Any suggestions for peace of mind, besides obvious safety tips? 1000 x thank you for testifying. That took great strength. I do carry pepper spray with me. It has a holder that you slip over your finger so it is always pointed the correct direction and sprays 15 feet accurately. Thank goodness the only time I had to use it was with a ferrel dog. But it worked splendidly. I also only use one headphone or none and try to run in daylight. We have no shoulders, tourist traffic, are fairly rural and... bears, coyotes, and roaming dogs. |
| 2016-09-13 1:55 PM in reply to: StaceyK |
Champion 14677 Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by StaceyK I think we have created a running addict! I was talking to my mum tonight, she has been sick for the last two weeks with the flu which has turned into a very nasty chest infection. Her Doctor is warning about getting on top of it before it becomes pneumonia as she gets a bit of asthma during winter. She has been off work for over a week and her biggest concern and irritation is she hasn't been able to run for a week and a half and she is getting a bit antsy. That is great. The running addict, NOT the chest cold. I hope she gets her running shoes back on soon. |
| 2016-09-13 2:00 PM in reply to: lisac957 |
Champion 14677 Bronze member | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by lisac957 Some change is good if it makes you safer. I can only imagine you are going to be hyper aware from now on. One of the local pounds has dogs they allow folks to run with. It is a win-win. Dogs get exercise, exposure to possible adoptees and socialized. The runners get the GRRRRR factor. May be an option? Originally posted by DaveL Thank you for doing the right thing, you might have saved someone else from what you experienced (or worse) I know you mentioned running alone but are there options to run with someone on those night runs? options for treadmill run? any indoor tracks in the area? Yes I've started running Tuesdays and Saturdays with groups, but I still have a few days a week on my own. I have a treadmill in my basement I've ran on at least once a week since then. I hate letting this incident change my life and my routine though. He kind of wins when that happens |
| 2016-09-13 2:08 PM in reply to: lisac957 |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by lisac957 Hi everyone, checking in! I did in fact do a race Saturday, but it was more about running with my training group than racing. We did the 5K + 8 more miles to get our long run in. It was great, and we had crisp fall weather to boot. I am still calming myself down from testifying this morning against the man who threatened to rape me (while I was running, alone, about a month ago). I have learned that I'm really good under pressure (even the prosecutor commented how I was calm while one of the other ladies - there were 3 of us - was on the verge of a break down) - but in the aftermath I am kind of a mess. Long story short he was found guilty, but had only been charged with disturbing the peace, so was sentenced to 90 days in prison and he has already served 25. Long version in my blog today. Since I am thinking about this I will ask you all (especially the ladies) - do you carry anything like mace when you're training alone? I am thinking about it, but not sure I would be able to react quickly enough to activate it properly unless I ran with it in the "ready" position at all times. Which let's be honest, I probably wouldn't. Any suggestions for peace of mind, besides obvious safety tips? I'm sorry this has gone on and I have little to add on the security/carry side of things, unfortunately. Thanks for testifying though. That is a HUGE step and oh so important. |
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