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2022-11-29 1:14 PM in reply to: amd723 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Racing Manatees - Better Together in 2022 Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Have you been following the 2023 Ironman World Championship rumors? It sound like there are *strong* rumors that the men's WC will be in Nice and the women's in Kona. But they've been giving qualifying slots to the WC and specifically saying that it's in Kona. Some people are kinda upset! I have not been following - slowtwitch? I wouldn't put it past IM to pull a switcharoo!! Yes, Slowtwitch. I'm *shocked* that they do not have better customer service! |
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2022-11-29 1:38 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Member 2098 Simsbury, Connecticut | Subject: RE: Racing Manatees - Better Together in 2022 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Have you been following the 2023 Ironman World Championship rumors? It sound like there are *strong* rumors that the men's WC will be in Nice and the women's in Kona. But they've been giving qualifying slots to the WC and specifically saying that it's in Kona. Some people are kinda upset! I have not been following - slowtwitch? I wouldn't put it past IM to pull a switcharoo!! Yes, Slowtwitch. I'm *shocked* that they do not have better customer service! I'd be PISSED. But that's not a me problem :D |
2022-11-29 2:13 PM in reply to: mtnbikerchk |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Racing Manatees - Better Together in 2022 Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by jmkizer I'd be PISSED. But that's not a me problem :D Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Have you been following the 2023 Ironman World Championship rumors? It sound like there are *strong* rumors that the men's WC will be in Nice and the women's in Kona. But they've been giving qualifying slots to the WC and specifically saying that it's in Kona. Some people are kinda upset! I have not been following - slowtwitch? I wouldn't put it past IM to pull a switcharoo!! Yes, Slowtwitch. I'm *shocked* that they do not have better customer service! You are not alone. A few people pointed out: "Registration for Legacy eligible athletes was supposed to open today. They sent out an email yesterday putting it on hold. " This one made me laugh though: "Me and thousands of others already have flights, hotels, cars, time off, etc. for October 14th in Kona." Thousands? Really? |
2022-11-29 2:21 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Racing Manatees - Better Together in 2022 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by jmkizer I'd be PISSED. But that's not a me problem :D Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Have you been following the 2023 Ironman World Championship rumors? It sound like there are *strong* rumors that the men's WC will be in Nice and the women's in Kona. But they've been giving qualifying slots to the WC and specifically saying that it's in Kona. Some people are kinda upset! I have not been following - slowtwitch? I wouldn't put it past IM to pull a switcharoo!! Yes, Slowtwitch. I'm *shocked* that they do not have better customer service! You are not alone. A few people pointed out: "Registration for Legacy eligible athletes was supposed to open today. They sent out an email yesterday putting it on hold. " This one made me laugh though: "Me and thousands of others already have flights, hotels, cars, time off, etc. for October 14th in Kona." Thousands? Really? Seems like a lot of people are getting worked up over a rumor. Of course, I'd probably be one of those people Let's hope IM isn't true to form in its screw everyone attitude and if Nice is really true it is for the following year. |
2022-11-29 2:25 PM in reply to: amd723 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Racing Manatees - Better Together in 2022 Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by jmkizer I'd be PISSED. But that's not a me problem :D Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Have you been following the 2023 Ironman World Championship rumors? It sound like there are *strong* rumors that the men's WC will be in Nice and the women's in Kona. But they've been giving qualifying slots to the WC and specifically saying that it's in Kona. Some people are kinda upset! I have not been following - slowtwitch? I wouldn't put it past IM to pull a switcharoo!! Yes, Slowtwitch. I'm *shocked* that they do not have better customer service! You are not alone. A few people pointed out: "Registration for Legacy eligible athletes was supposed to open today. They sent out an email yesterday putting it on hold. " This one made me laugh though: "Me and thousands of others already have flights, hotels, cars, time off, etc. for October 14th in Kona." Thousands? Really? Seems like a lot of people are getting worked up over a rumor. Of course, I'd probably be one of those people Let's hope IM isn't true to form in its screw everyone attitude and if Nice is really true it is for the following year. Well.... The Nice rumor has been out there for a while. And then there is the pausing registration for legacy athletes. So who knows? Interesting view from the sidelines. Not something I have to worry about! |
2022-11-29 2:27 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Racing Manatees - Better Together in 2022 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by jmkizer I'd be PISSED. But that's not a me problem :D Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Have you been following the 2023 Ironman World Championship rumors? It sound like there are *strong* rumors that the men's WC will be in Nice and the women's in Kona. But they've been giving qualifying slots to the WC and specifically saying that it's in Kona. Some people are kinda upset! I have not been following - slowtwitch? I wouldn't put it past IM to pull a switcharoo!! Yes, Slowtwitch. I'm *shocked* that they do not have better customer service! You are not alone. A few people pointed out: "Registration for Legacy eligible athletes was supposed to open today. They sent out an email yesterday putting it on hold. " This one made me laugh though: "Me and thousands of others already have flights, hotels, cars, time off, etc. for October 14th in Kona." Thousands? Really? Seems like a lot of people are getting worked up over a rumor. Of course, I'd probably be one of those people Let's hope IM isn't true to form in its screw everyone attitude and if Nice is really true it is for the following year. Well.... The Nice rumor has been out there for a while. And then there is the pausing registration for legacy athletes. So who knows? Interesting view from the sidelines. Not something I have to worry about! It's always interesting to watch a train wreck |
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2022-11-30 8:16 AM in reply to: amd723 |
Member 2098 Simsbury, Connecticut | Subject: RE: Racing Manatees - Better Together in 2022 Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by jmkizer I'd be PISSED. But that's not a me problem :D Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Have you been following the 2023 Ironman World Championship rumors? It sound like there are *strong* rumors that the men's WC will be in Nice and the women's in Kona. But they've been giving qualifying slots to the WC and specifically saying that it's in Kona. Some people are kinda upset! I have not been following - slowtwitch? I wouldn't put it past IM to pull a switcharoo!! Yes, Slowtwitch. I'm *shocked* that they do not have better customer service! You are not alone. A few people pointed out: "Registration for Legacy eligible athletes was supposed to open today. They sent out an email yesterday putting it on hold. " This one made me laugh though: "Me and thousands of others already have flights, hotels, cars, time off, etc. for October 14th in Kona." Thousands? Really? Seems like a lot of people are getting worked up over a rumor. Of course, I'd probably be one of those people Let's hope IM isn't true to form in its screw everyone attitude and if Nice is really true it is for the following year. Well.... The Nice rumor has been out there for a while. And then there is the pausing registration for legacy athletes. So who knows? Interesting view from the sidelines. Not something I have to worry about! It's always interesting to watch a train wreck as long as you're not in it!! |
2022-11-30 8:19 AM in reply to: mtnbikerchk |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Racing Manatees - Better Together in 2022 Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by amd723 as long as you're not in it!! Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by jmkizer I'd be PISSED. But that's not a me problem :D Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Have you been following the 2023 Ironman World Championship rumors? It sound like there are *strong* rumors that the men's WC will be in Nice and the women's in Kona. But they've been giving qualifying slots to the WC and specifically saying that it's in Kona. Some people are kinda upset! I have not been following - slowtwitch? I wouldn't put it past IM to pull a switcharoo!! Yes, Slowtwitch. I'm *shocked* that they do not have better customer service! You are not alone. A few people pointed out: "Registration for Legacy eligible athletes was supposed to open today. They sent out an email yesterday putting it on hold. " This one made me laugh though: "Me and thousands of others already have flights, hotels, cars, time off, etc. for October 14th in Kona." Thousands? Really? Seems like a lot of people are getting worked up over a rumor. Of course, I'd probably be one of those people Let's hope IM isn't true to form in its screw everyone attitude and if Nice is really true it is for the following year. Well.... The Nice rumor has been out there for a while. And then there is the pausing registration for legacy athletes. So who knows? Interesting view from the sidelines. Not something I have to worry about! It's always interesting to watch a train wreck No kidding! Update: more outlets, including Pro Tri News, have confirmed this. Most recent rumor is IM press release today. |
2022-11-30 9:11 AM in reply to: 0 |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Racing Manatees - Better Together in 2022 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by amd723 as long as you're not in it!! Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by jmkizer I'd be PISSED. But that's not a me problem :D Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Have you been following the 2023 Ironman World Championship rumors? It sound like there are *strong* rumors that the men's WC will be in Nice and the women's in Kona. But they've been giving qualifying slots to the WC and specifically saying that it's in Kona. Some people are kinda upset! I have not been following - slowtwitch? I wouldn't put it past IM to pull a switcharoo!! Yes, Slowtwitch. I'm *shocked* that they do not have better customer service! You are not alone. A few people pointed out: "Registration for Legacy eligible athletes was supposed to open today. They sent out an email yesterday putting it on hold. " This one made me laugh though: "Me and thousands of others already have flights, hotels, cars, time off, etc. for October 14th in Kona." Thousands? Really? Seems like a lot of people are getting worked up over a rumor. Of course, I'd probably be one of those people Let's hope IM isn't true to form in its screw everyone attitude and if Nice is really true it is for the following year. Well.... The Nice rumor has been out there for a while. And then there is the pausing registration for legacy athletes. So who knows? Interesting view from the sidelines. Not something I have to worry about! It's always interesting to watch a train wreck No kidding! Update: more outlets, including Pro Tri News, have confirmed this. Most recent rumor is IM press release today. Slowtwitch will be hopping! ETA: I'm going to guess that when/if this happens anyone who is currently signed up for Kona 2023 will be able to defer to 2024. If those people have plane tickets or any non-refundable cost it will be too bad our terms of service say we can do what we want. Edited by amd723 2022-11-30 9:13 AM |
2022-11-30 9:13 AM in reply to: amd723 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Racing Manatees - Better Together in 2022 Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by amd723 as long as you're not in it!! Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by jmkizer I'd be PISSED. But that's not a me problem :D Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Have you been following the 2023 Ironman World Championship rumors? It sound like there are *strong* rumors that the men's WC will be in Nice and the women's in Kona. But they've been giving qualifying slots to the WC and specifically saying that it's in Kona. Some people are kinda upset! I have not been following - slowtwitch? I wouldn't put it past IM to pull a switcharoo!! Yes, Slowtwitch. I'm *shocked* that they do not have better customer service! You are not alone. A few people pointed out: "Registration for Legacy eligible athletes was supposed to open today. They sent out an email yesterday putting it on hold. " This one made me laugh though: "Me and thousands of others already have flights, hotels, cars, time off, etc. for October 14th in Kona." Thousands? Really? Seems like a lot of people are getting worked up over a rumor. Of course, I'd probably be one of those people Let's hope IM isn't true to form in its screw everyone attitude and if Nice is really true it is for the following year. Well.... The Nice rumor has been out there for a while. And then there is the pausing registration for legacy athletes. So who knows? Interesting view from the sidelines. Not something I have to worry about! It's always interesting to watch a train wreck No kidding! Update: more outlets, including Pro Tri News, have confirmed this. Most recent rumor is IM press release today. Slowtwitch will be hopping! It's already hopping! It may go completely off the rails at 12:01 today. |
2022-11-30 2:20 PM in reply to: 0 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Racing Manatees - Better Together in 2022 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by amd723 as long as you're not in it!! Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by jmkizer I'd be PISSED. But that's not a me problem :D Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Have you been following the 2023 Ironman World Championship rumors? It sound like there are *strong* rumors that the men's WC will be in Nice and the women's in Kona. But they've been giving qualifying slots to the WC and specifically saying that it's in Kona. Some people are kinda upset! I have not been following - slowtwitch? I wouldn't put it past IM to pull a switcharoo!! Yes, Slowtwitch. I'm *shocked* that they do not have better customer service! You are not alone. A few people pointed out: "Registration for Legacy eligible athletes was supposed to open today. They sent out an email yesterday putting it on hold. " This one made me laugh though: "Me and thousands of others already have flights, hotels, cars, time off, etc. for October 14th in Kona." Thousands? Really? Seems like a lot of people are getting worked up over a rumor. Of course, I'd probably be one of those people Let's hope IM isn't true to form in its screw everyone attitude and if Nice is really true it is for the following year. Well.... The Nice rumor has been out there for a while. And then there is the pausing registration for legacy athletes. So who knows? Interesting view from the sidelines. Not something I have to worry about! It's always interesting to watch a train wreck No kidding! Update: more outlets, including Pro Tri News, have confirmed this. Most recent rumor is IM press release today. Slowtwitch will be hopping! It's already hopping! It may go completely off the rails at 12:01 today. Looks like it's "official." No announcement from IM yet but there is this... Women in Kona
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2022-12-01 7:24 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Champion 14677 | Subject: RE: Racing Manatees - Better Together in 2022 Originally posted by jmkizer Ironman organization never ceases to disappoint Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by amd723 as long as you're not in it!! Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by jmkizer I'd be PISSED. But that's not a me problem :D Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Have you been following the 2023 Ironman World Championship rumors? It sound like there are *strong* rumors that the men's WC will be in Nice and the women's in Kona. But they've been giving qualifying slots to the WC and specifically saying that it's in Kona. Some people are kinda upset! I have not been following - slowtwitch? I wouldn't put it past IM to pull a switcharoo!! Yes, Slowtwitch. I'm *shocked* that they do not have better customer service! You are not alone. A few people pointed out: "Registration for Legacy eligible athletes was supposed to open today. They sent out an email yesterday putting it on hold. " This one made me laugh though: "Me and thousands of others already have flights, hotels, cars, time off, etc. for October 14th in Kona." Thousands? Really? Seems like a lot of people are getting worked up over a rumor. Of course, I'd probably be one of those people Let's hope IM isn't true to form in its screw everyone attitude and if Nice is really true it is for the following year. Well.... The Nice rumor has been out there for a while. And then there is the pausing registration for legacy athletes. So who knows? Interesting view from the sidelines. Not something I have to worry about! It's always interesting to watch a train wreck No kidding! Update: more outlets, including Pro Tri News, have confirmed this. Most recent rumor is IM press release today. Slowtwitch will be hopping! It's already hopping! It may go completely off the rails at 12:01 today. Looks like it's "official." No announcement from IM yet but there is this... Women in Kona
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2022-12-02 9:05 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Racing Manatees - Better Together in 2022 Wow, I just looked in the Forums section for the first time in a very, very long time and I see they are for the most part ghost towns. I remember 'back in the day' reading and participating in the forums was a daily routine. I guess people gravitated to groups such as these, or else left the site altogether. And Robin, your comment was priceless: "Ironman organization never ceases to disappoint" LOL |
2022-12-02 11:52 AM in reply to: melbo55 |
Royal(PITA) 14270 West Chester, Ohio | Subject: RE: Racing Manatees - Better Together in 2022 Originally posted by melbo55 Wow, I just looked in the Forums section for the first time in a very, very long time and I see they are for the most part ghost towns. I remember 'back in the day' reading and participating in the forums was a daily routine. I guess people gravitated to groups such as these, or else left the site altogether. And Robin, your comment was priceless: "Ironman organization never ceases to disappoint" LOL Many of the people who were active posting have left the site or the sport. I also think that for a lot of people that "life happens" and they have gotten into different places career/ family wise. They may log their workouts to keep the metrics --but there are so many other options for workouts with Strava, Garmin, all the online coaching options that, quite frankly are better than what this site now offers. |
2022-12-02 11:52 AM in reply to: melbo55 |
Royal(PITA) 14270 West Chester, Ohio | Subject: RE: Racing Manatees - Better Together in 2022 Originally posted by melbo55 Wow, I just looked in the Forums section for the first time in a very, very long time and I see they are for the most part ghost towns. I remember 'back in the day' reading and participating in the forums was a daily routine. I guess people gravitated to groups such as these, or else left the site altogether. And Robin, your comment was priceless: "Ironman organization never ceases to disappoint" LOL Many of the people who were active posting have left the site or the sport. I also think that for a lot of people that "life happens" and they have gotten into different places career/ family wise. They may log their workouts to keep the metrics --but there are so many other options for workouts with Strava, Garmin, all the online coaching options that, quite frankly are better than what this site now offers. |
2022-12-02 11:52 AM in reply to: melbo55 |
Royal(PITA) 14270 West Chester, Ohio | Subject: RE: Racing Manatees - Better Together in 2022 Originally posted by melbo55 Wow, I just looked in the Forums section for the first time in a very, very long time and I see they are for the most part ghost towns. I remember 'back in the day' reading and participating in the forums was a daily routine. I guess people gravitated to groups such as these, or else left the site altogether. And Robin, your comment was priceless: "Ironman organization never ceases to disappoint" LOL Many of the people who were active posting have left the site or the sport. I also think that for a lot of people that "life happens" and they have gotten into different places career/ family wise. They may log their workouts to keep the metrics --but there are so many other options for workouts with Strava, Garmin, all the online coaching options that, quite frankly are better than what this site now offers. |
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2022-12-02 11:59 AM in reply to: QueenZipp |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Racing Manatees - Better Together in 2022 Racing Manatees!!! December 3-4 Doooo eeeettttt!!!!!! Is anyone else racing or doing anything else fun this weekend? |
2022-12-02 11:59 AM in reply to: QueenZipp |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Racing Manatees - Better Together in 2022 Originally posted by QueenZipp Originally posted by melbo55 Wow, I just looked in the Forums section for the first time in a very, very long time and I see they are for the most part ghost towns. I remember 'back in the day' reading and participating in the forums was a daily routine. I guess people gravitated to groups such as these, or else left the site altogether. And Robin, your comment was priceless: "Ironman organization never ceases to disappoint" LOL Many of the people who were active posting have left the site or the sport. I also think that for a lot of people that "life happens" and they have gotten into different places career/ family wise. They may log their workouts to keep the metrics --but there are so many other options for workouts with Strava, Garmin, all the online coaching options that, quite frankly are better than what this site now offers. We're still here! |
2022-12-02 12:21 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Racing Manatees - Better Together in 2022 Originally posted by jmkizer Racing Manatees!!! December 3-4 Doooo eeeettttt!!!!!! Is anyone else racing or doing anything else fun this weekend? Go racers go! |
2022-12-02 1:07 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
297 | Subject: RE: Racing Manatees - Better Together in 2022 Originally posted by jmkizer Racing Manatees!!! December 3-4 Doooo eeeettttt!!!!!! Is anyone else racing or doing anything else fun this weekend? Still in recovery from this respiratory infection. I highly recommend not getting it if you can avoid. |
2022-12-02 5:22 PM in reply to: alaskatri |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Racing Manatees - Better Together in 2022 Originally posted by alaskatri Originally posted by jmkizer Still in recovery from this respiratory infection. I highly recommend not getting it if you can avoid. Racing Manatees!!! December 3-4 Doooo eeeettttt!!!!!! Is anyone else racing or doing anything else fun this weekend? UGH! Feel better soon. |
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2022-12-02 8:59 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Racing Manatees - Better Together in 2022 Originally posted by jmkizer Racing Manatees!!! December 3-4 Doooo eeeettttt!!!!!! Is anyone else racing or doing anything else fun this weekend? Depending on how you feel about sitting in a box in the woods by yourself, I'm hunting this weekend. |
2022-12-02 9:13 PM in reply to: JBacarella |
Master 8248 Eugene, Oregon | Subject: RE: Racing Manatees - Better Together in 2022 Not a hunter but the box in the woods by oneself part actually sounds really nice, as long as I could bring a good book, snacks, and plenty of hand and toe warmers. |
2022-12-03 4:19 AM in reply to: amd723 |
Extreme Veteran 710 Wilmington, NC | Subject: RE: Racing Manatees - Better Together in 2022 Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by QueenZipp Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by ceilidh Originally posted by QueenZipp YES!!! And there is wonderful hiking in the area, too! Not to mention the lake. Originally posted by ceilidh Originally posted by amd723 I guess ill have to do it. I know where I will stay! (Anyone else who wants to come and stay - house is free, cabins get a friend and family discount) Robin P and Janyne (and anyone else interested), Cycle North Carolina Mountain Ride 2023 is in Lake Lure. I won't be able to do it , but you two have no excuse! I can sherpa and cheer if the weekend fits my schedule Trying to imagine what the routes could look like and what I've come up with is ...hard! I know!! I'm not sure that I could do 3 days of riding that were so hilly without feeling dead. The main event is Saturday and Sunday, so just 2 days of riding which means it's really easy Actually, you don't have to ride both days and each day has different length rides, so you can pick your poison. Of the 3 times I've participated 2x I've only ridden one day. Though one of those times I did an unofficial second day, short route. When is this event taking place?? |
2022-12-03 4:26 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Extreme Veteran 710 Wilmington, NC | Subject: RE: Racing Manatees - Better Together in 2022 Hi All I have been slacking on reading the group forum due to travel, work, life, etc. 1. Congrats on IMAZ Randee! I did that race x 2 way back in the day. I love Tempe! 2. IM Championships -> change sucks. I was fortunate enough to be a spectator for my husband who did it back in 2007. Kona is a quaint town. I cannot imagine how busy it must have felt this year with all the racers. It's too bad they are splitting the men and women and putting the races in two different locations. Lots of men/women train together and if you qualify, even if your race is on a different day it's fun to cheer each other on. Seems like now if you have any 'hopes' of qualifying and really want to do the race when it's in Kona you will have to strategically plan what year you do a qualifying IM. Most of us AG-ers don't have Kona on our radar but I am just thinking for those who do. I wonder if IM will see a decrease in registration? 3. Cycle NC event in Lake Lure -> when is this taking place? I might be interested! 4. Nothing big planned for me this weekend however I am OW swimming today. It's going to feel chilly! Leanne |
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