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2012-02-08 11:20 AM
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I predict he goes into roid rage and starts eating people in the swim.


2012-02-08 11:43 AM
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2012-02-08 11:49 AM
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2012-02-08 12:34 PM
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Will he actually race as a pro? (i.e. or does he have to sit back with the AG proletariat at the swim start?)
2012-02-08 12:37 PM
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bryancd - 2012-02-08 8:08 AM I wouldn't be suprised to see him also race Oceanside 70.3 and then IMSG in an effort to earn Kona pro points. Now that the Feds are off his butt, I think this will be the Lance in Kona year.

I'll destroy him at O Side.  Bank it

2012-02-08 12:37 PM
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LazyRiver - 2012-02-08 11:34 AM

Will he actually race as a pro? (i.e. or does he have to sit back with the AG proletariat at the swim start?)


He has been for XTERRA so I think it's assured he will.


2012-02-08 12:51 PM
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bryancd - 2012-02-08 5:08 AM I wouldn't be suprised to see him also race Oceanside 70.3 and then IMSG in an effort to earn Kona pro points. Now that the Feds are off his butt, I think this will be the Lance in Kona year.

What's the bike course like at Panama and Oceanside?  I would think he would want to race courses with the toughest bike course...and IMSG makes a lot of sense for gaining Kona points.

2012-02-08 12:57 PM
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He will follow right behind the leaders out of the water, he will have a slow t1, will get on the bike and pass everyone. Fast T2.  He will start the run with a 1-2 minute lead, he will either hang on to win, or will be passed in the last 2 miles to place 2nd or 3rd. 

 

2012-02-08 1:40 PM
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nickwisconsin - 2012-02-08 11:57 AM

He will follow right behind the leaders out of the water, he will have a slow t1, will get on the bike and pass everyone. Fast T2.  He will start the run with a 1-2 minute lead, he will either hang on to win, or will be passed in the last 2 miles to place 2nd or 3rd. 

 

I think he needs a lot more than a 1-2 minute lead to contend for the win. More like 9-10 minutes. Looks like he picked a course that plays to his strength as the bike course is not flat but the run is. Guys like Jesse Thomas are going to run around 1:13 and I think LA will be around 1:22-1:23 range. Just my opinion.

2012-02-08 1:44 PM
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bryancd - 2012-02-08 10:08 AM I wouldn't be suprised to see him also race Oceanside 70.3 and then IMSG in an effort to earn Kona pro points. Now that the Feds are off his butt, I think this will be the Lance in Kona year.

Curious if you're happy or disappointed that he's (likely) pro for St George, since he would be in your age group?

And did anyone else notice that Chris Lieto is also on the anticipated Pro List for Panama? This could be a very interesting race!

2012-02-08 1:45 PM
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nickwisconsin - 2012-02-08 11:57 AM

He will follow right behind the leaders out of the water, he will have a slow t1, will get on the bike and pass everyone. Fast T2.  He will start the run with a 1-2 minute lead, he will either hang on to win, or will be passed in the last 2 miles to place 2nd or 3rd. 

 

I think he needs a lot more than a 1-2 minute lead to contend for the win. More like 9-10 minutes. Looks like he picked a course that plays to his strength as the bike course is not flat but the run is. Guys like Jesse Thomas are going to run around 1:13 and I think LA will be around 1:22-1:23 range. Just my opinion.



Yeah, no way can he run a sub 1:15 off the bike. None of his results have shown he has that kind of run speed. He may be able to crack 1:20 if it's a fast course but I think top 5 will be tough, top 3 unlikely.


2012-02-08 1:48 PM
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bryancd - 2012-02-08 11:08 AM I wouldn't be suprised to see him also race Oceanside 70.3 and then IMSG in an effort to earn Kona pro points. Now that the Feds are off his butt, I think this will be the Lance in Kona year.

Well, it's ABOUT time you had some competition in your AG, Bryan. ;-D

2012-02-08 2:29 PM
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And now my wife hates me for saying that we shouldn't do this race.  I still say, "Snakes"
2012-02-08 2:51 PM
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nickwisconsin - 2012-02-08 11:57 AM

He will follow right behind the leaders out of the water, he will have a slow t1, will get on the bike and pass everyone. Fast T2.  He will start the run with a 1-2 minute lead, he will either hang on to win, or will be passed in the last 2 miles to place 2nd or 3rd. 

 

I think he needs a lot more than a 1-2 minute lead to contend for the win. More like 9-10 minutes. Looks like he picked a course that plays to his strength as the bike course is not flat but the run is. Guys like Jesse Thomas are going to run around 1:13 and I think LA will be around 1:22-1:23 range. Just my opinion.

 

That assumes that Jesse Thomas is going to be within 10 minutes of Lance off the bike. I don't think the fast runners will be, but I am just speculating. I don't know of any of these athletes or their coaches personally.

2012-02-08 2:57 PM
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nickwisconsin - 2012-02-08 1:57 PM

He will follow right behind the leaders out of the water, he will have a slow t1, will get on the bike and pass everyone. Fast T2.  He will start the run with a 1-2 minute lead, he will either hang on to win, or will be passed in the last 2 miles to place 2nd or 3rd. 

 

He raced Lieto in the Queen K Time Trial at the beginning of 2010 and only beat Lieto by about 15 seconds over around 18 miles. LA was at the beginning of year two of his pro-cycling comeback having finished 3rd at the TDF six months earlier, so it would be hard to say he was not in decent cycling form to do a short TT at that point. Add two years of age (40 years old vs. 38 yrs old), one year plus of being out of pro-cycling, and splitting training time between swim, bike and run, I do not see him coming out at the front or even top 5 on the bike. It is a safe bet he loses time on the run. My bet is he is fairly conservative on the bike and finishes in the top 20 overall, best case scenario. This is assuming he does not have a pre-race steak dinner.

 



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He will follow right behind the leaders out of the water, he will have a slow t1, will get on the bike and pass everyone. Fast T2.  He will start the run with a 1-2 minute lead, he will either hang on to win, or will be passed in the last 2 miles to place 2nd or 3rd. 

 

He raced Lieto in the Queen K Time Trial at the beginning of 2010 and lost to Lieto by about 15 seconds over around 18 miles. LA was at the beginning of year two of his pro-cycling comeback having finished 3rd at the TDF six months earlier, so it would be hard to say he was not in decent cycling form to do a short TT at that point. Add two years of age (40 years old vs. 38 yrs old), one year plus of being out of pro-cycling, and splitting training time between swim, bike and run, I do not see him coming out at the front or even top 5 on the bike. It is a safe bet he loses time on the run. My bet is he is fairly conservative on the bike and finishes in the top 20 overall, best case scenario. This is assuming he does not have a pre-race steak dinner.

 

If I remember correctly, it was LA that beat Lieto in that "TT".  



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He will follow right behind the leaders out of the water, he will have a slow t1, will get on the bike and pass everyone. Fast T2.  He will start the run with a 1-2 minute lead, he will either hang on to win, or will be passed in the last 2 miles to place 2nd or 3rd. 

 

Yes, you are correct - by 15 seconds.

He raced Lieto in the Queen K Time Trial at the beginning of 2010 and lost to Lieto by about 15 seconds over around 18 miles. LA was at the beginning of year two of his pro-cycling comeback having finished 3rd at the TDF six months earlier, so it would be hard to say he was not in decent cycling form to do a short TT at that point. Add two years of age (40 years old vs. 38 yrs old), one year plus of being out of pro-cycling, and splitting training time between swim, bike and run, I do not see him coming out at the front or even top 5 on the bike. It is a safe bet he loses time on the run. My bet is he is fairly conservative on the bike and finishes in the top 20 overall, best case scenario. This is assuming he does not have a pre-race steak dinner.

 

If I remember correctly, it was LA that beat Lieto in that "TT".  

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ksee - 2012-02-08 12:13 PM

Reguardless of how he does, it will be good for the sport.  Lance did great things for pro cycling viewership, and I would expect the same for the Tri community.  It's all about TV time, and ratings.

I'm just waiting for the "I Tri with Lance" Stickers...

So is Lance the new Chrissie for 2012?

2012-02-08 3:13 PM
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If all goes well....

25 Swim

2:10 bike

1:20 run

5 for T1 & T2

4 Hours or thereabouts.

I don't know anything about the course....but I say I'm close.

Like Bryan said....probably somewhere in the 4th-10th range. I don't think he'll have a big enough lead to beat Lieto, Reed, Docherty....etc.

2012-02-08 3:16 PM
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BrianRunsPhilly - 2012-02-08 4:05 PM
ksee - 2012-02-08 12:13 PM

Reguardless of how he does, it will be good for the sport.  Lance did great things for pro cycling viewership, and I would expect the same for the Tri community.  It's all about TV time, and ratings.

I'm just waiting for the "I Tri with Lance" Stickers...

So is Lance the new Chrissie for 2012?

Don't think he's hanging around the finish area to had out medals to age groupers.

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mrbbrad - 2012-02-08 4:16 PM
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ksee - 2012-02-08 12:13 PM

Reguardless of how he does, it will be good for the sport.  Lance did great things for pro cycling viewership, and I would expect the same for the Tri community.  It's all about TV time, and ratings.

I'm just waiting for the "I Tri with Lance" Stickers...

So is Lance the new Chrissie for 2012?

Don't think he's hanging around the finish area to had out medals to age groupers.

Well we don't know what Lance might do, but Chrissie was pretty special when it came to her willingness to interact with people. Can't imagine anyone not liking her.  Also I am sure Lance has to be a bit more media shy - there will always be "those questions" after any type of race he does. He's a polarizing individual and there will be attention given.



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cwsiii - 2012-02-08 3:57 PM

I do not see him coming out at the front or even top 5 on the bike. 

Please pass your crack pipe when you're done using it....I need to smoke whatever you're on.

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I will take a stab at the time prediction. LA at 4:02 with the winner coming in at 3:54. 
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