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Originally posted by tomsimper what are the best core and strength exercises that I should be doing?

Depends on what you're doing them for and your personal circumstances ... off to look at your bio.

ETA: I'm back! Congrats on becoming a free-breather I smoked several years into endurance sports--not such a good idea.

If you have time to do them--and there's plenty of great stuff you can do at home with no or super easy equipment (like a chair) in 10min--and you want to do them, that's great.

But unless there's something you haven't told us--like something particularly odd or injured diagnosed by a doctor--you don't NEED to do them.

However, if you do have time and you want, and you can let us know a little bit more about why, plenty of folks here can recommend good stuff (or what they do).



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I had read that core strength helps stopping injury and as I am more wobbly than solid I presumed it would help. I have the time to fit it in as been doing some but wanted to make sure I was doing the right type of exercise instead of just wasting my time thinking as was on the right track. I have no medical issues at present other than a sore calf muscling but that's my own fault for not warming up properly when I went running the other day.
2016-01-06 5:35 AM
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Matt, the Sufferland tour details are on their site already....



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Janyne, you could ask Kevin if he wants to join in this year. I could "lend" him some of the videos to try out for the tour on the understanding he deletes them afterwards and buys his own They work very well with Trainer Road :D
2016-01-06 6:28 AM
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Originally posted by Richardsdrr Janyne, you could ask Kevin if he wants to join in this year. I could "lend" him some of the videos to try out for the tour on the understanding he deletes them afterwards and buys his own They work very well with Trainer Road :D

I actually mentioned the tour to him last night and he gave me another "you people are crazy" looks.  Actually, I think that he's just excited that he now has all of the parts and pieces for his new trainer set up

Background: My husband, Kevin, is a mountain biker.  He rides in Pisgah and Dupont a lot.  His trainer bit the dust and he got a Wahoo Kickr Snap.  I asked the Manatees about setup stuff.  He has a music stand, iPad, Wahoo iPad bluetooth thingie and lightning adapter and he swapped out his speed/cadence sensor for a magetless Garmin one.  The last part came on Monday.  He was planning to ride this morning. 

2016-01-06 6:32 AM
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Originally posted by tomsimper what are the best core and strength exercises that I should be doing?

Planks and side planks are a good start as is using the rolly wheel for ab rollouts.  What I was told was to pick 3-6 core exercises and do them 2-3 times a week so that is what I've done. I'm sure that others will have some suggestions as well. 



2016-01-06 7:02 AM
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Originally posted by tomsimper what are the best core and strength exercises that I should be doing?

Planks and side planks are a good start as is using the rolly wheel for ab rollouts.  What I was told was to pick 3-6 core exercises and do them 2-3 times a week so that is what I've done. I'm sure that others will have some suggestions as well. 

i was just about to suggest planks. They may be the best bang for your buck core exercises.

2016-01-06 7:40 AM
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Originally posted by tomsimper what are the best core and strength exercises that I should be doing?

 

There are several Core routines right here on BT.  Do a search on the word "Core" in the articles to find them.

I've been doing the same BT Core routine for years during my lunch hour a couple of times a week (can't find that particular routine in the articles anymore, but i have it memorized).  I probably need to mix it up a bit with a few other core routine options instead of doing the same thing all of the time.



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Ok I have a question for the group. Due to work schedule, focus areas etc. I didn't spend a lot of time on my bike in 2015. If I look at my overall training times I spent roughly 10 total hours on the bike. As far as splitting my workouts across the disciplines it works out to about 30% swim, 10 % bike and 60 % running.

When I look at the results of my 3 Tri's in relation to my overall placement I tend to place a little higher on the swim portion, lower on the run and usually significantly higher on the bike portion. (And that was on a 10 year old Trek 1000 starter road bike)

For example on my last Tri I came in 15th in my age group. Swim was 11th, bike 8th (30 seconds behind person in 5th) and run 17th.

I know run is my slowest due to my illness, but I'm slowly picking up pace there.

I'm not quite understanding why I'm placing so much higher on the bike giving the minimal effort I put in last year. (And any other years for that matter)

So the question is:

Seems like bike speed comes a little easier to me than swim and run speed for some reason. Would it be beneficial to utilize that by spending more time on the bike or should I given the choice keep working on the running and swimming instead?

There's probably no real good do this or that answer, but I would like to see some feedback on what you guys think.


I would think you are going hard on the bike then running out of gas on the run. You can either take it a little easier on the bike and potentially run a little quicker OR I would suggest taking a more balanced approach and look to increase your bike volume and run volume to better your overall fitness. Following one of the plans on BT might be your best bet.

Regarding the bike - everyone loves a nice new shiny bike and a new aero or lightweight one can be faster but assuming that trek 1000 is in decent shape your best "bang for your buck" will be to just ride it a lot.

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Originally posted by DaveL
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Gracious, do you have everything ever????? BTW, I moved the bike gallery to a BT Album.

Oooooo! bike pictures, how do I add mine in there.

Post your bike pic(s) here.

okay here is the first one and my most recent bike purchase. I sold my Cervelo P1 to fund this one as I am doing mostly Xterras now. The bike is pretty much a hoot and after riding a Klein hard tail since 1997 the new bike seems to float over the rough stuff. Upgrades have included moving to Stans Crest wheels, tubeless tires and XT rotors which shaved a couple of lbs. off the bike. .

Nice looking bike! Which one is it? Upgraded mine back in the fall to a Trek Fuel Ex 9.8. Some of these new things are absolutely amazing! The "floating over stuff" isn't really an exaggeration anymore. Getting close to cheating.




Its a RockyMountain Element930, not the highest end version but I got it at a good price towards the end of the season and it fit the bill. The Trek EX9.8 is a great bike and I can certainly see why you enjoy it. "cheating" was my first impression when I rode the new bike as I was used to getting hammered by the super stiff rear triangle of that Klein.
2016-01-06 7:55 AM
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Originally posted by johnthecat

Ok I have a question for the group. Due to work schedule, focus areas etc. I didn't spend a lot of time on my bike in 2015. If I look at my overall training times I spent roughly 10 total hours on the bike. As far as splitting my workouts across the disciplines it works out to about 30% swim, 10 % bike and 60 % running.

When I look at the results of my 3 Tri's in relation to my overall placement I tend to place a little higher on the swim portion, lower on the run and usually significantly higher on the bike portion. (And that was on a 10 year old Trek 1000 starter road bike)

For example on my last Tri I came in 15th in my age group. Swim was 11th, bike 8th (30 seconds behind person in 5th) and run 17th.

I know run is my slowest due to my illness, but I'm slowly picking up pace there.

I'm not quite understanding why I'm placing so much higher on the bike giving the minimal effort I put in last year. (And any other years for that matter)

So the question is:

Seems like bike speed comes a little easier to me than swim and run speed for some reason. Would it be beneficial to utilize that by spending more time on the bike or should I given the choice keep working on the running and swimming instead?

There's probably no real good do this or that answer, but I would like to see some feedback on what you guys think.


I would think you are going hard on the bike then running out of gas on the run. You can either take it a little easier on the bike and potentially run a little quicker OR I would suggest taking a more balanced approach and look to increase your bike volume and run volume to better your overall fitness. Following one of the plans on BT might be your best bet.

Regarding the bike - everyone loves a nice new shiny bike and a new aero or lightweight one can be faster but assuming that trek 1000 is in decent shape your best "bang for your buck" will be to just ride it a lot.


I think Dave is right. Plus the bike leg is your longest leg of the race and the area when small gains will give you the greatest bang for your buck.


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Originally posted by tomsimper what are the best core and strength exercises that I should be doing?

Planks and side planks are a good start as is using the rolly wheel for ab rollouts.  What I was told was to pick 3-6 core exercises and do them 2-3 times a week so that is what I've done. I'm sure that others will have some suggestions as well. 

i was just about to suggest planks. They may be the best bang for your buck core exercises.




Planks are good. There used to be a plank a day challenge in the "Challenge me" part of the forum. Maybe we should start a Manatee plank challenge.

Sit ups I'm personally not a huge fan of because they can hurt your back if not done right and there's definitely a variety of other abs exercises that yield better results than sit ups. Some of the recommendations here would depend on how much time you want to commit to this, how often and to a certain degree what equipment you have available. (i.e. pullup bar, paralletes, medicine balls etc.)
2016-01-06 8:07 AM
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Regarding the bike - everyone loves a nice new shiny bike and a new aero or lightweight one can be faster but assuming that trek 1000 is in decent shape your best "bang for your buck" will be to just ride it a lot.


I actually just picked up a used Scott Addict R3 with Hed Jet 6 Clinchers from a coworker for a steal right before Christmas. Definitely a lot prettier than my Trek, hopefully it will motivate me to ride more.





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Originally posted by tomsimper

I had read that core strength helps stopping injury and as I am more wobbly than solid I presumed it would help. I have the time to fit it in as been doing some but wanted to make sure I was doing the right type of exercise instead of just wasting my time thinking as was on the right track. I have no medical issues at present other than a sore calf muscling but that's my own fault for not warming up properly when I went running the other day.


Core training will help you in all three disciplines and it will help prevent you from becoming fatigued. It will give you better run posture and make you faster. This is just if you have time to work one area. If you have the time to work in 3, 30 minute overall strength training days it will be helpful. This is especially important to those of us who are pushing 50 to fight muscle atrophy that come s with age.
2016-01-06 8:20 AM
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Originally posted by tomsimper what are the best core and strength exercises that I should be doing?

 

There are several Core routines right here on BT.  Do a search on the word "Core" in the articles to find them.

I've been doing the same BT Core routine for years during my lunch hour a couple of times a week (can't find that particular routine in the articles anymore, but i have it memorized).  I probably need to mix it up a bit with a few other core routine options instead of doing the same thing all of the time.

Yeah! I haven't done it in ages but the BT Core 1, 2, 3 are really good! 

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Originally posted by Richardsdrr Matt, the Sufferland tour details are on their site already....

I've always wanted to try the Tour of Sufferlandria... but I'm askurred!  



2016-01-06 8:28 AM
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Originally posted by johnthecat
Originally posted by DaveL Regarding the bike - everyone loves a nice new shiny bike and a new aero or lightweight one can be faster but assuming that trek 1000 is in decent shape your best "bang for your buck" will be to just ride it a lot.
I actually just picked up a used Scott Addict R3 with Hed Jet 6 Clinchers from a coworker for a steal right before Christmas. Definitely a lot prettier than my Trek, hopefully it will motivate me to ride more. [/QUOTEDrooling, that is one pretty bike.

2016-01-06 8:34 AM
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Originally posted by Richardsdrr Janyne, you could ask Kevin if he wants to join in this year. I could "lend" him some of the videos to try out for the tour on the understanding he deletes them afterwards and buys his own They work very well with Trainer Road :D

I actually mentioned the tour to him last night and he gave me another "you people are crazy" looks.  Actually, I think that he's just excited that he now has all of the parts and pieces for his new trainer set up

Background: My husband, Kevin, is a mountain biker.  He rides in Pisgah and Dupont a lot.  His trainer bit the dust and he got a Wahoo Kickr Snap.  I asked the Manatees about setup stuff.  He has a music stand, iPad, Wahoo iPad bluetooth thingie and lightning adapter and he swapped out his speed/cadence sensor for a magetless Garmin one.  The last part came on Monday.  He was planning to ride this morning. 

Janyne, do we get to see the final setup?

2016-01-06 8:43 AM
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Both bikes have been added to the album:

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/Albums/Album/17246

 

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Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by Richardsdrr Janyne, you could ask Kevin if he wants to join in this year. I could "lend" him some of the videos to try out for the tour on the understanding he deletes them afterwards and buys his own They work very well with Trainer Road :D

I actually mentioned the tour to him last night and he gave me another "you people are crazy" looks.  Actually, I think that he's just excited that he now has all of the parts and pieces for his new trainer set up

Background: My husband, Kevin, is a mountain biker.  He rides in Pisgah and Dupont a lot.  His trainer bit the dust and he got a Wahoo Kickr Snap.  I asked the Manatees about setup stuff.  He has a music stand, iPad, Wahoo iPad bluetooth thingie and lightning adapter and he swapped out his speed/cadence sensor for a magetless Garmin one.  The last part came on Monday.  He was planning to ride this morning. 

Janyne, do we get to see the final setup?

I'll get a picture this week :-)

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Hey guys.  I know I kind of faded out last year towards the end, but I'm slowly starting to get back into the endurance world.  I know you guys are closed, but I'll be lurking.

Wanted to throw my 2 cents into these two topics:

Originally posted by Lighttower I have a quick question. Can anyone suggest a good hardware for strava? I would like to record my swims too.

I went the opposite route of a multisport watch.  I have a dedicated device for each sport.  The Garmin swim does really well for swimming of course.  The Edge 500 gives me the fields I need (the 910/310's 4 fields aren't enough for what I like to track).  Finally the FR10 gives me just what I need for running: pace and time.  I kind of like having specific devices, because it helps me transition into the mindset for that workout (I'm a swimmer, I'm a runner, etc.).

I did the same. No swim watch, but dedicated bike & run devices. The multisport ones can be ok, but I liked the sport specific ones quite a bit better.

Ive been toying with this idea because my Timex is about to die. I don't really want anything more than time and distance. I have a Garmin Forrunner 10 for my run and a really basic bike computer that does speed and distance because the cadence señor won't fit on my new bike. I'm toying with going sands for swimming cause I tend to use the time clock at the pool and don't do much open water. My question is what do you use when you race? Or do you just forget about it and wait for the results to come out to get your overall times? (I'm having trouble finding out if the F10 is water proof and I don't want to dunk it to find out).

I use the same things for the race. I can let the bike computer just run as it'll only take data when it thinks it's moving, or start and stop just outside of transition. I put the run watch on coming out of T2. I usually build form a walk into a run the first couple steps anyway and can get the watch on in that time. Not a big deal. 

This is the case for me as well.



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Originally posted by Richardsdrr Matt, the Sufferland tour details are on their site already....

I watched the video announcement this morning before my ride.  Weekends are gonna suck so much.

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Originally posted by Richardsdrr Matt, the Sufferland tour details are on their site already....

I've always wanted to try the Tour of Sufferlandria... but I'm askurred!  



You can hear this coming a mile off........DO EEEEEETTTTTT!!!!!!!!!@
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Originally posted by tomsimper I had read that core strength helps stopping injury and as I am more wobbly than solid I presumed it would help. I have the time to fit it in as been doing some but wanted to make sure I was doing the right type of exercise instead of just wasting my time thinking as was on the right track. I have no medical issues at present other than a sore calf muscling but that's my own fault for not warming up properly when I went running the other day.
Core training will help you in all three disciplines and it will help prevent you from becoming fatigued. It will give you better run posture and make you faster. This is just if you have time to work one area. If you have the time to work in 3, 30 minute overall strength training days it will be helpful. This is especially important to those of us who are pushing 50 to fight muscle atrophy that come s with age.

I'm a stickler for details. I'm probably going into too much detail and really doesn't matter for (or to!) most people, but that's just to say it's not you ... it really is me and my OCD about always finding devils to go with their tails ... uh ... in the details.

I'm actually a proponent of strength training for everybody, including most triathletes. The benefits are many and you really have to put so little in ... even 10min 2x/week is good. Core training (some types demonstrably more, some less demonstrably less, that's why Tom's asking) will help in all three disciplines, although in different ways for each. They can indeed help delay some muscular fatigue, but not more so than strength training within the disciplines (eg., hard swim intervals, or hills). Some types of core and strength may help you hold good swim technique for longer, swimming being where body position is really important.

But not everyone *needs* to do it.

What prevents (training-related) injury is proper training. Training related injuries nearly always result from too much and/or too hard too quickly.

So let's bring this back to Tom, who's pushing 40 and just quit smoking. Smoking interferes with bone density and that effect is going to last awhile, so he should definitely do some weight-bearing (body weight is fine) work. Running will help with that too, but running has to be built up through frequency and not quickly. Age alone suggests it's a good time for him to start incorporating strength training.

Squats, Bulgarian squats with good technique (nothing explosive, no jumping--in swimming that's what pushing off the wall and good streamlining is for! it's like doing a safe jumping squat against resistance and streamlining is great for core). Planks are great for core; so are the yoga/Pilates triangle and reverse triangle (which have a weight-bearing component). The yoga routines in the BT videos are great.

I'm a huge fan of swim cords for core and strength (and they do translate very well to actual swimming). Ask me more if you like!

And now, ask me when the last time I did core or strength was ... and I'm female, fat, pushing 40, and have arthritis to the tune where it sometimes interferes with daily activities, not to mention training!

Sigh. Can't fix stupid ...

 

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I got an email from trainerroad this morning.

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Simply log in to TrainerRoad and visit your referrals page to start! Your friends will receive an email with instructions on how to redeem their free month of training.

If anyone is interested just PM me your email and I will send you the referral.
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