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2007-08-04 5:08 PM

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With 480 posts to the "who's doing a 1/2 IM in 2007", we seem to have a lot of potential  1/2 IM triathletes out there.  Let's help those "newbies" make it though their first HIM.  Please post something that you learned during your HIM experiance - and maybe put a link to your  1/2 IM race report, as well.

For me, the most important thing I learned was to have a realistice race expectation - and not to get all caught up in trying to "beat the clock".  I focused on enjoying the race, and finishing strong - and it worked out pretty well for me, and I really enjoyed my first HIM experiance. 

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=84660 

 

Good luck, everyone,

Dennis



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2007-08-04 6:16 PM
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I learned the hard way that nutrition and hydration are critical in the longer races. I mismanaged mine and completely blew up on the run.
While it was a huge disappointment at the time, it turned out to be the best learning experience I've had.

 

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2007-08-04 6:16 PM
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Consistent training makes for a fun race. Get a good plan and stick to it. I used the 20 week one on trifuel.com
2007-08-04 8:30 PM
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I will let you guys know after mine on September 8th
2007-08-05 9:40 AM
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Oh, where to start?

I've done 3 HIM races, and I learned the most from the most recent. It wasn't my worst time... (i.e. CLOCK TIME) but it was my WORST TIME like "this is no party".

Primarily, I got caught up in racing against the clock. I raced Racine last year, and made it my goal to do much better there this year. I have not been running as much as I was running last year, due to knee surgery...

I have been biking alot, and riding lots of hills, and I am a much stronger cyclist than I was this time last year.

So, I set this rather lofty time goal for myself, thinking... I can do it, no problem... I've done a HIM twice before, I've had some hard training, and I think it won't be a problem. I can eeeeeek it out, no matter what.

Turns out the swim was longer than it was last year, so my time, exiting the water, was equivalent to last year's. When I saw that, I panicked at the thought of ALREADY being behind my "goal" time. So I made it my business to hammer the bike as hard as I could. I had an awesome bike split, enjoyed every last moment of it, but fell waaaaaaay off my nutrition and hydration plan. I actually threw one of my Gatorade bottles away at an aid station, and took water instead. I was short electrolytes, calories, and generalized hydration....I knew it wasn't smart, but I was trying to make up time on the bike, where I knew I was strongest. I think I realized my nutrition was lacking, but I thought I'd just drink at every aid station on the run.

My bike turned out to be 11 minutes faster than last year. But my run... with no fuel stored up, and in a generally dehydrated state... with much less run training than last year... was misery incarnated. It was a run/walk, averaging 13 min/mile and it was very very painful. I wanted to keel over around mile 9. I lost all the time I gained on the bike... and then some.

So, after that long dissertation, my advice to you:

  • Don't get all wound up against the clock. Have fun. My Racine experience this year wasn't fun... aside from all the friends and family that we had there.... the race itself was a horrifying experience!
  • Save something for the run. Don't go hammer the bike. Hold a little something back so you can run a bit. (Like 13 miles, let's say!)
  • Don't throw your nutrition plan out the window. Make sure you devise a plan, know what works and then stick to it. We have a tendency to make some really strange decisions whilst racing. Stick to the plan.
  • Have fun. Even though I had fun on the bike... I felt like I was desperate to make up time, so I wasn't having as much fun as I might have under ordinary circumstances.
  • Of course... train. It's a long race. Don't think you can get through it with half A$$ed training. It's going to take consistency.
  • Respect the distance. It's short enough where you may think you can be "fast" but long enough to really cause some pacing/nutrition problems.
So there you go. Read my Racine 2007 race report and use it as a non example. Laughing

 

 



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2007-08-05 6:43 PM
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Thanks slow&steady.  What a great idea.  Also thanks to everyone that contributes.

I did a 50 miler yesterday and my nutrition wasn't as good as it needs to be.  I didn't bonk, but I might have if the ride would've been much longer.



2007-08-05 7:11 PM
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I totally get the importance of nutrition, but I'm sure it's at least a little different for each person.  My question is, what are some guidelines?  How do I get started?  I think I've seen something about 200 cal/hr, and GU packs read (15 before/every 45)...Help!
2007-08-05 7:24 PM
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Sorry for the attempted hijack.  For anyone else looking for answers I found somehting http://beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=84842&posts=13#M914050
2007-08-05 7:51 PM
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That if you are willing to put in the time, you can qualify for Kona.

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2007-08-05 9:06 PM
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Did my first HIM-distance tri this year.

I learned that one should not hold back on the swim as much as one would in an Ironman. After all, the swim distance in a HIM is only a bit more than in an Oly. I was too conservative on the swim. Next time, I'll swim as if I were racing an oly.

Also, you can never start a HIM run too slowly, but you can definitely start out too fast (and risk fading later in the run).

2007-08-07 9:09 AM
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If you get a flat on the bike:

1. Make sure your CO2 and CO2 adapter both work
2. Don't try to make up for the time you lost by hammering on the bike - you'll pay for it on the run if you do and lose even more time.


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2007-08-07 9:33 AM
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You can train for months and think you are ready, and then on race day you fall apart on the run because you didn't dilute your Gatorade enough and you got the side stitch from hell.
2007-08-07 8:16 PM
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1st was Steelhead. Learned to build quads and be ready for the bike. My longest training ride was 50 miles in 3 hours (easy 17mph) immed. followed by a 19:14 three mile run (6:45 pace). During the race, I pushed the 56 miles hard then had SEVERE back pains during the run. i should have coasted last 3 bike miles and saves back/legs for run. Could easily pull a 1:40 1/2 marathon, but barely beat 2 hours (9:13 pace). My lesson was to really focus on bike (lower back) strength training and save legs for the run. Good luck to all!
2007-08-08 3:55 PM
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Just finished my first HIM in Antwerp. Here are the major learning points. Check out the log for the full story . . . .

1) Do not get caught up on racing the clock. The same course on two different days will yeild two different times.

2) Stick to the nutrition plan that you perfected in training. Now is not the time to try something new.

2.5) Build in some redundancies in your nutrition plan just in case you drop your banana.

3) Save something for the second half of the run.

4) Go full out on the swim - it is less than 2K.

5) Use your first HIM as a rationalization to upgrade the bike!

2007-08-08 4:02 PM
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PLAN YOUR RACE; RACE YOUR PLAN!



2007-08-08 4:53 PM
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Have fun, take it all in. Who cares how long it takes you. As long as you give it your best. Like my first marathon, NY city, I just wanted to finish. I also brought a camera with me in NY and took pict. along the way. Enjoy the experience, remember we all have to go to work the next day.
2007-08-09 9:43 PM
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Great post by Runnerx. Plan your race, race your plan. Awesome.
2007-08-09 11:32 PM
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I  like SwissTri's reponses!  Especially #6.

I just finished my first 1/2 Iron and I would also agree with:

2.5) Build in some redundancies in your nutrition plan just in case you drop your banana.
It didn't happen to me but BOY did I see lots of salt tablets, water bottles and other food on the road.  Our road was very bumpy and I think it bounced a lot of folks' stuff out of their pockets/bikes etc.

I learned EAT soon after - I know to do this, but I didn't like any of the after race food so I didn't eat....about 2 hours later I felt very nauseous

I also had a race plan....didn't really think about times until the last couple of miles when I looked at my watch and saw I could make 7:30...(yea, I am slow, but I finish! ) and I pushed...and made 7:24 - so HAVE A PLAN.

MOST OF try to have fun....this is a choice right?!?

enjoy -

Ann

2007-08-10 1:58 PM
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1) if you do the training, you'll finish with a huge smile on your face.

2) train like you'll race; IOW, practice pacing, practice nutrition and practice execution

2007-08-10 3:21 PM
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To be flexible, even on race day.  I wanted to break 6 hours at the Patriot HIM in MA this July.  Come race day they changed the course so that all three events ran long ( an extra 200 on the swim, 4 miles on the bike and .5 miles on the run).  Throughout the race I was bummed becaue I realized I wouldn't make my goal, but I still set a PR (even on the long course) and had a great time. 



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slow&steady - 2007-08-04 3:08 PM

With 480 posts to the "who's doing a 1/2 IM in 2007", we seem to have a lot of potential  1/2 IM triathletes out there.  Let's help those "newbies" make it though their first HIM.  Please post something that you learned during your HIM experiance - and maybe put a link to your  1/2 IM race report, as well.

For me, the most important thing I learned was to have a realistice race expectation - and not to get all caught up in trying to "beat the clock".  I focused on enjoying the race, and finishing strong - and it worked out pretty well for me, and I really enjoyed my first HIM experiance. 

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=84660 

 

Good luck, everyone,

Dennis

Dennis thanks for posting this thread.  I literaly just signed up for my first 1/2 in Vancouver in Sept. after only starting this tri thing in March.  Way ahead of schedule. I have my 1st OLY on the 18th I think I am ready for but the 1/2 will be a good test to see where my training is.  Thanks for all the tips everyone, they are all great bits of advice, glad to see there is nothing confussing or contradicting!

Chris

2007-08-12 5:34 PM
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1. Don't go into it with unrealistic expectations

2. Don't skip workouts

3. Hydaration and Nutrition are more imprortant than you may realize while on the course

4. LONG rides/bricks are, IMO, one of the most important deciding factors of how your body will handle the race.  I only did a 62/6.2, and found myself really wishing that I had run, if even for a short distance, after EVERY long bike.  Because it was really hard to run with legs that were that tired

5. It hurts, but in a good way!

2007-08-13 10:54 AM
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I was scared sh*tless initially, and posted about that in this forum.

I did my first 1/2 yesterday and I was happy throughout many parts of the race, especially afterwards!

Key points, some of which I learned here:

-stick to a manageable pace; I went slower than usual on the bike, 18 mph rather than 20-21 in training so i had fuel in the tank for the tough run.


-plan nutrition, and DO IT! I ate far more than I've ever eaten during an event or training since I was out there so long.

-Race your own race. Lots of people will go faster, lots will go slower. Pace yourself.
2007-08-13 4:55 PM
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I learned that- sometimes no matter how much you've trained or worked on your nutrition sometimes race day throws a few curve balls;

- you'll launch your last water bottle
- you may experience knee pain on the bike that you've never had in training
- you'll drop all your endurolytes on the run and not notice it
- you may not be able to stomache Gu's/gels on the run during the race

All of the above happened to me during my first half a few weeks ago, but positive thinking, talking myself through the pain, and slowing my pace got me across the finish line.

My race time was slower than I had hoped, but I crossed the finish line.
Abbie

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