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Toledo, Ohio
United States
60F / 16C
Total Time = 3h 36m
Overall Rank = 91/297
Age Group = 30-34
Age Group Rank = 14/29
Pre-race routine:

Used the port a pottie SEVERAL times before the race. Took a gel 10 minutes prior to race. Met molsaver before the race! Sister was with me...
Event warmup:

  • 3h 36m
  • 26.2 miles
  • 08m 14s  min/mile

First mile was 7:04. Second mile, the bridge, was 7:15. Then for the next 8 miles I was consistently between 6:50-7. I was a bit sore at the beginning, and definitely not as "fresh" as I was at MB...but I still felt "good".

By mile 10, I was averaging sub 7 minute miles. At the half way point, I was 1:33. Mile 18, I was projected to finish at 3:13. THEN, I started tightening up, and began "sucking air". I persevered for the rest of the race.

Miles 13-16 were an out and back. My amazing sister - who hop scotched around the course - said I looked "good" going in, but when I came back... not so good! By mile 20, I was GASSED. From here on, I hit EVERY aid station. I walked thru, had a gatorade, and began "running" upon exiting. My sister told me after the race that she was surprised I finished! And actually, I was too! The last 6 miles were MURDER.

I was so out of for the last 7 miles... I kept forgetting what mile I was on! Worse, I had placed gels in my socks (E Gels) because I had no pocket space...the frickin' things are HUGE. Unfortunately, they fell out without me knowing :(. So from miles 17-26 I had NO gels. UGH.
What would you do differently?:

I attacked the race. No doubt there... but in hindsight I should have set a lower goal. I don't think I'm ready to hold 7's for a mary (at least on a moderate course), and I paid the price today! Also... I attacked hills, and that cost me. There weren't many, but they were steep and I didn't back down! As a result, they took some "life" out of me!!

If I would have gone low 8's or high 7's from the beginning, I think I could have held that pace throughout and maybe have been able to pick up near the end.
Post race
Warm down:

Walked around. The race finished along the river. It was beautiful day to runa mary!!

Event comments:

I didn't go as fast as I had wanted. But I am still pleased. I went 3:51 at Detroit this past Fall. A 15 minute drop. Progress is progress :)

Last updated: 2005-04-10 12:00 AM
03:36:00 | 26.2 miles | 08m 14s  min/mile
Age Group: 0/29
Overall: 0/297
Performance: Average
Course: mostly flat...but with some steep MF'ing hills mixed in. Two bridges.
Keeping cool Good Drinking Just right
Post race
Weight change: %
Overall: Below average
Mental exertion [1-5] 4
Physical exertion [1-5] 4
Good race? Ok
Course challenge Just right
Organized? Yes
Events on-time?
Lots of volunteers? Yes
Plenty of drinks? Yes
Post race activities: Good
Race evaluation [1-5] 4

2005-04-10 2:07 PM

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Adrian, MI
Subject: Toledo Marathon

2005-04-10 2:10 PM
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2005-04-10 2:17 PM
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Broomfield, Colorado
Subject: RE: Toledo Marathon ROCK!  15 minutes off your previous PR is freakin' AMAZING!   You did really well!

You really kicked some ass....NICE WORK!

2005-04-10 2:19 PM
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Pensacola, Fl
Subject: RE: Toledo Marathon
I know you didn't hit your goal, but a PR is a PR...damn nice run.  Congrats on a great marathon!!!
2005-04-10 2:35 PM
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Extreme Veteran
Fort Worth, TX
Subject: RE: Toledo Marathon
Great race Greg!!  You are incredible inspiration to me. 

That sucks about the gels. 
2005-04-10 2:45 PM
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15 minutes off you PR is AWESOME!  You did great!  An inspiration to us 10 minute air sucking milers!


2005-04-10 5:59 PM
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Whitsett, North Carolina
Subject: RE: Toledo Marathon
Damn Fromer.  3:36!!!!  You freaking flew!  Congrats on the PB.  15 mins off is huge.  Way to perservere those last 6.  You are such an impressive athlete.  Wish you got BQ.  Damn happy you made it through.  First couple of miles were blazing fast!  I'm glad you set an freaking agressive as hell goal to hit.  Sorry to hear about the gels.
2005-04-10 6:34 PM
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Subject: RE: Toledo Marathon
I told you that GELS ARE EVIL! See, we just need to fatten you up a la SFWG and then you won't need any can just survive off your own energy stores :-)

GREAT JOB FROMIE!! I am sooo impressed and I cannot wait to get you down here to help with my running!
2005-04-10 6:38 PM
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Extreme Veteran
Subject: RE: Toledo Marathon

u do know that with that time, you're OFFICIALLY the fastest marathoner within the Mafia?

Good job my friend. Live to fight another day

2005-04-10 6:41 PM
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, Alabama
Subject: RE: Toledo Marathon

It may not have been pretty to you, but it was awesome to me.  You did greeat!  There is only one guarantee in any marathon, and that's that it will be a learning experience.

Great job.


2005-04-10 8:56 PM
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Plant City, FL
Subject: RE: Toledo Marathon


As always, I am impressed with your ability!  You did an outstanding job today, and I am very proud of you!!  

2005-04-10 9:23 PM
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Extreme Veteran
Tokyo, Japan
Subject: RE: Toledo Marathon

Hey Greg, well although you didn't hit your target, I still think you did a fantastic job.  A 15 minute PB and a 3:36 marathon are two things you can be very proud of...especially for a "swimmer"!!

However, what I was most impressed by was your determination and down right stubborness when it came to finishing.  That's what it will take to hit that lofty goal of yours, and you have PLENTY of it!!

Great job.

2005-04-10 10:37 PM
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Extreme Veteran
Cary, NC
Awesome run Greg! So glad you could tough out the last 7 miles. Hitting the wall is brutal, but sounds like you were mentally strong enough to force your body to get the job done. And yeah, talk abouta CRAZY pace you were attempting to hold.... shiiiit, doing sub-7-min.-miles and shite... damn! Well, eat well tonight, and git yurself a nice massage tomorrow. And enjoy some rest!

2005-04-11 6:18 AM
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Extreme Veteran
windsor, ontario
Subject: RE: Toledo Marathon

Awesome job...15 minutes per marathon means you BQ next year at Toledo...3:21 at Detroit this fall, and 3:06 next spring at Toledo ...don't sweat it man...great race, and one you would have jumped at last October, if somebody told you you could do it...

take a breather, and focus on Steelhead now


2005-04-11 7:14 AM
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Marietta, Ga
Subject: RE: Toledo Marathon
What an incredible race.  I hope you find room in this accomplishment for some real celebration, buddy.   I hope the day comes that I ever break 4 hours in a mary, let alone a 3:36.  Simply amazing.
2005-04-11 7:55 AM
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Excellent race, you've made some major gains.  I'm in the same boat as you, looking for that 3:10 to BQ. We'll be there soon!

2005-04-11 9:06 AM
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Boston, MA
Subject: RE: Toledo Marathon

Awesome Race! When I learned that your goal was to qualify for Boston I started following your training logs everyday. I am running Boston next Monday for the 1st time though I didn’t qualify. I got a racing number through a team so I have to raise money for them. Anyway, same as you one of my dreams is to qualify for Boston some day (soon hopefully). Anyway, you should be very proud because you executed your racing plan and achieved a PR. Just enjoy and relax for the following weeks you deserve it!

I’ll let you know next how painful heart break hill really is next Monday!


2005-04-11 9:34 AM
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San mateo California
Subject: RE: Toledo Marathon
Great Race man....   despite the circumstancces you still were able to shave off considerable time from your last mary..    I am sure next time you will do better and better...

enjoy... a pr is a pr....

2005-04-11 10:20 AM
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Dayton, Minnesota
Subject: RE: Toledo Marathon
Great job fromer!!
2005-04-11 5:20 PM
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Official BT Coach
Englewood, CO
Subject: RE: Toledo Marathon
Great race dude! I think you did awesome! Way to run your heart out!
2005-04-11 9:52 PM
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Kingston Ontario
Subject: RE: Toledo Marathon
What a great accomplishment, Greg!  15 minutes off for a new PB is just amazing...congrats!!

2005-04-12 3:26 AM
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Northern VA
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Glad that 10 miler with me back in Feb paid off for you!

2005-04-13 9:18 AM
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acton, Ma
Subject: RE: Toledo Marathon

Nice job!  15 minutes off pb is awesome.

Nothing like some "lessons learned". 

2005-04-13 9:51 AM
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Extreme Veteran
Plant City, Florida
Subject: RE: Toledo Marathon
any pb is a race well done.....nice run
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